Nate wahl yes he sure is, and that is with companies that we have been working with for years. That’s one thing about our channel, it’s going to be true reporting and 100% accurate, and that offends people (Viewers & Subscribers) and companies every once a while. The Truth must come out. Thanks for watching! 👊🥳😎👍🇺🇸. Beretta Sr.
I own a sig sauer p220 and a Springfield 1911 TRP. As much as it pains me to say this. If it was an end of the world situation and I had to get up and go with only 1 gun. I'd pick the Sig...I'd probably cry the whole time though becuz God do I love my 1911. But I gotta call a strike a strike and a ball a ball. The Sig seems a hell of alot more less finicky.
@@berettaxd7566 oh its super reliable...but rest assure that if i were to be rolling around on the ground with dust, dirt and mud (which I'm sure I would never be) the Sig would outdo the TRP.
Had same problem with one of my 1911 I use living down here in the south it rusted last year I sent it up to this guy in Vermont Karl Sokol I had Him bead blast the rust off tune up gun and put on one of his mountain tough finish.
My 220 runs everything. my 1911 jams on some jhp! Lost all faith with my 1911 after that! I still like it but strictly for range fun and 1911 nostalgia.
@@BDAILY365 there are advantages to ball! Penetration, cost. You never know when you might need to penetrate through a front door in a Belgian village home in 12/44 to bring down an SS trooper loading a new mag into his MP40!
Interesting video. I have not been keeping up with what is new at SIG for over 2 decades and it's for the simple reason my P220 I bought in 1992 has been my go to gun since that day that I never bothered looking to replace it. But now you done it. BTW: I still have the receipt and it says $295. And it was a brand new gun. Won't be seeing those kind of prices ever again.
Great comparison video, guys! I don’t have a Vigil, but I do have a P220 Legion though and it’s quite a gun. Mine is an earlier version and the finish mars easy.
Great timing on this review... Was just in the local gun shop earlier today and looked at the P220 Legion. Handed it back to the guy and said it's a sweet gun, but I already have a 1911 that serves the same purpose. However, I see a Legion P226 in my future. Great review guys.
rednkitaln yes sir, and thank you very much for sending in the comment. Both of these pistols are most excellent in their own right, and worth considering as a purchase for most handgun collectors. 👊🥳😎👍🇺🇸. Beretta Sr.
Superb video and comparison. Love that Dan Wesson. Now, if I were to pick a .45 out of the box for defensive purposes, I would get a SIG P220. A 1911 can be extremely reliable (and I have no doubt that DW are excellent in that department), but typically one would have to run a few 100's round into it to be comfortable that it works reliably. The P220, on the other hand, just tends to work out of the box.
My Kimber is my most accurate 45 I've ever owned. I've sold multiple 1911's off in the past. Carried the 220 for over a decade. I'm a small guy with small hands. That Sig just fits, always works, accurate, utilitarian tool that hides well appendix carry. Not selling my Kimber but I've never sold a old school Sig.
One thing in regards to the rust issues found on the DW hammers. I have found great success using a protective coating called EEZOX. Since using this, I have not experienced any rust since. Another great benefit, EEZOX does not attract dust and/or debris.
Mikey Highway I would like to, but we just ordered a Wilson Combat each and we already ordered a Les Baer each, so I think we are done for this year. 👊🥳😎👍🇺🇸. Beretta Sr.
I am in the 7th month of EDC and it is covered in Rust again. One bad thing about some of the Dan Wesson 1911’s. Always 💯% Honest. I still love it and it is always on my side when I am off duty. I carry a Glock 21 Gen 4 on duty. 🥳😎👊👍🇺🇸. Beretta Sr.
Great video once again. I own and carry the Sig P220 Legion SAO. Now, if you ever get the chance, I'd love to see a comparison between the Dan Wesson 1911 and the P220 Legion SAO. I think you'll be impressed.
The DW Specialist is Awesome in the Black or Silver Finish and you can find both Reviews on our Channel. Great Pick for sure!! As far as the Kimber is concerned..... I have not owned a Kimber in 8 years when they started having some quality problems. I have also head Kimber will not work with Gun Channel, and sees no value in what we do. I think that is stupid and I will not spend my money on a company that dislikes our industry or testing, because they do not want independent reviews or reviewers out there. Their overall attitude has been very poor the last couple years, because we have talked to them. Good Luck John, if you buy a Kimber, I would love to watch a video on it, or The Specialist for that matter. 🥳😎👊👍🇺🇸. Beretta Sr.
I’ve got both a p226 and p229 Legion in 9mm, and a p220 Legion is most definitely on my list. The DA first trigger pull is hard to get used to, at least for me, but it’s hard to beat the Legion line. Great review!
I Love them all, including the P220 10MM Legion. I think the Legions are the Best Sigs Ever! That’s my opinion after owning almost 10 of the P-Series so far. 👊🥳😎👍🇺🇸. Beretta Sr.
I think you had a very interesting and valid comparison going here, and not one that most people would have thought to do. But you lose some points, if I understood you correctly, for comparing a stock Dan Wesson to a SIG P220 with an aftermarket recoil reduction system installed. This hardly seems like a fair comparison, but at least you disclosed it. Sorry if that seems like nitpicking, but I probably would have put the factory recoil system back in for the video. I knew something was up when you said the P220 had less muzzle flip than a similar weight 1911. I've owned P220's since the arrived in 1975 as the BDA, and low muzzle flip has never been their strong suit in stock guns. But other than that, I think this was an interesting comparison of two guns designed for the same mission and at similar price points. I find it interesting that we are looking at a top of the line SIG, versus an entry level Dan Wesson. I own both and they are fine handguns.
MDpolo Gun Channel That Sig P220 Legion in 45ACP is Awesome. “The Legion Line” may be one of the Best from Sig..... in the last 25 years anyway. IMO 👊🥳😎👍🇺🇸. Beretta Sr.
The Dan Wesson Rust on the interior of the hammers still mystifies me. Is it only inside of the skeletonized hammer and not on the outer surfaces ? If so the issue might be the sanding tool that was used to get inside the hammer was most likely also used to sand soft steel with imbedded into the tooling then transferring into the hammer stainless and then rusting. This is one of the most likely causes.
It is now covering the entire hammer before I removed most of it a week or so ago. It slowly gets worse over a few months and then you have to sit down and remove it. I will replace the Hammers in 2022 when I am retired with a Wilson Combat hammer. It will be a top-of-the-line (bulletproof) hammer if they offer it. Take Care! 👊🥳😎👍🇺🇸 Beretta Sr.
Did you notice any difference from the grip safety? Cause this one is one long protruding surface while others have this smaller protruding surface on the end of the lever to insure that the safety will disengage when the purchase from the holster isn't optimal? Sad to see that Sig Sauer will close down production in Germany. It seems they got a bit pissed not getting big government contracts.
Mason Raley This is one of their lowest priced 1911 handguns at $1,295 I think it is. I still love them because of how great they are at Everything else , Including accuracy reliability and overall fit and finish minus the hammer. I am considering holding onto these 1911s and eventually having a Wilson combat hammer installed on them. 👊🥳😎👍🇺🇸. Beretta Sr.
@Guardian Minifarm ...no, I don’t carry them. Use them at the range and for home defense. I carry an H & K P30 sk. I like hammer fired guns for carry (one can place a thumb on the hammer when reholstering), but the 226 is too heavy. Plus the finish (in my opinion) isn’t as scratch resistant as that of H&K
I like'm both & I've owned both P220s & various 1911s. Here's the interesting part: The 1st pistol I've ever owned was a P220, but I traded it for a 1911. I own more 1911s than Sigs, but I carry a Sig more often. Not that my 1911s don't get shot or carried, though. They both really are excellent choices.
Love it Sir!! I agree, but I have been using these 2 Dan Wesson’s 1911’s for over a year now as my only EDC pistols. I love my 1911’s now and I may just stay with them as my EDC for the next couple years, just different ones.... Les Baer, Wilson Combat, or others. 🥳😎👊👍🇺🇸. Beretta Sr.
Sean Hadley Right On Sir! Still waiting for my Special Order LB to come in. Yesterday I placed an Order for my First Wilson Combat 1911. The only bad thing is, I have to wait till December 15th 2020 to get it in. The LB should be in around August 15th 2020..... so they will be spread out a little bit which is good for Channel coverage. :) 👊🥳😎👍🇺🇸 Beretta Sr. Stay Safe Out There!!
robin taylor thanks for the comment. We had really bad luck with our Dan Wesson 10mm 1911... so that comparison video because of our experience would have been basically saying the DW 10mm Kodiak is not worth the money.. we haven’t had one single issue with the P220 Legion 10mm.. buy it with confidence and plenty of 10mm ammunition with that money you are saving from buying the SIG over the DW. So bottom line tbh, I don’t exactly remember what we said in this video, we filmed it six months ago... So I can’t remember if it was one way or the other. These 2 pistols I can say have never had an issue, aside from the very rusty hammers on both of the DW vigils.. - YB
About that rust on the D&W hammers, you can’t really knock it. People ask for tool steel and carbon steel and whatnot for the superior quality or performance they perceive over a MIM part or a stainless part that may not hold a trigger job as well. It is actually a selling point for a lot of people. It is one of the reasons we pick a more expensive gun over lower priced 1911’s. We asked for the old school cool. Edit (because I’m a nerd): If the rusty hammer thing really bugged me, I would send the small parts off to have some type of high tech finish applied that wouldn’t affect the dimensions. This goes back to us (the market) requesting a nice steel part. What if the part you replace it with isn’t fit as well as the original? Might be the cheapest and best thing to do refinishing it.
Jim the fact of the matter is Dan Wesson knows of this issue and isn’t doing anything about it. That is horrible customer service and pushing out an inferior product to save a few nickles. The right thing to do would have been to bead blast blue, cerakote or dlc the hammers from the start at their expense… But Dan Wesson/CZ USA didn’t because they don’t care.
@@BERETTA9mmUSA have you by chance replaced it with a Stainless hammer? I reached out to DW, and they recommended my not doing it. Basically told me to keep it oiled, and polish as needed. I have however been using something called EESOX. I am not a seller by any means. But it does help slow the rust issues.
@@thomaseynon6205 The Full Size Vigil I sold to buy a Les Baer or Alchemy Custom Weaponry…. I can’t remember. I still have the Commander Dan Wesson Vigil and I just brush the hammer the best I can and then oil it. I will replace the Hammer with a Quality Wilson Combat bullet-proof Black Coated Hammer someday. That’s my plan anyway. B9USA Sr.
Not for everyone..... kinda like Glock, or 1911 Pistols. I know people who dislike all 3, several who hate the 1911 pistols.... they think they are all like the World War 2 1911 pistols and are not willing to even look at the new ones. (Their Loss) The Sig P220 Legion is Awesome! But not for everyone. 👊🥳😎👍🇺🇸. Beretta Sr.
Pistol Pete To be 100% honest it is 4 or 5 of my Cop Friends that come to mind and a “Discussion” I was having with them about how they love Glocks and hate 1911’s as I am the only Cop walking out to my car with a 1911 on my hip and my Glock in its Rig and it is hung over my shoulder. Anyway, I held up my end of the conversation and I am not sure if I changed their minds, but I still respect them..... they just do not like the Best Pistol on Planet Earth. Beretta Sr.
Hey Beretta Sr. & Jr., Talk about internal strief and sometimes turmoil trying to decide what to carry and be proficient with! As you guys know, I come from a 1911 family and can shoot them relatively well, but the safety of a DA/SA semi auto also has it's benefits. Although I have never owned a Sig Legion Series I have had and still own quite a few Sigs in 9mm and 45 acp with what I thought to be the best of both worlds being the P245 and or the P227. I've just acquired a primo DW Guardian imgur.com/a/nUji0lq that is a real shooter, but I still have a bunch of "Safe-Queen" 1911 that my Dad built that right now are seemingly inheritance pieces to my LEO Son as they are just too ultimate and sentimental to shoot or carry! Anyway, welcome to my life and good seeing you guys on a regular basis ';-)
Pictures look great! Always good to enjoy them and then pass them on to your Kiddos if the will appreciate them. We sure do love these two types of pistols. Sig P-Series, and 1911 full-size or Commanders Size are just so very good I just have to own 4 or 5 of all of them..... and with 1911’s make that 10 or more. :) I really dig the Legions for new buy Sigs. Have a good one my friend. 👊🥳😎👍🇺🇸 Beretta Sr.
Beretta SR loves that single handed shooting. I like that.I don't do much of it. I will have to try that more while at the range. At the end of Covid...so, in bed watching some videos. Young Beretta sure can shoot! The Kid is good!!! Both of these are super nice firearms. My favorite trigger on a 1911 is the three triangle model. Just My opinion for The Dan Wesson, it needs a black trigger to complete the "Darth Vader" look. Do You agree? or, do You like it how it is? There isn't a better trigger on earth in a pistol than The 1911. Bar None!
Young beretta doesn’t play....he’s always 1st to call out the wrong. Love it!!
Nate wahl yes he sure is, and that is with companies that we have been working with for years. That’s one thing about our channel, it’s going to be true reporting and 100% accurate, and that offends people (Viewers & Subscribers) and companies every once a while. The Truth must come out. Thanks for watching!
👊🥳😎👍🇺🇸. Beretta Sr.
I own a sig sauer p220 and a Springfield 1911 TRP. As much as it pains me to say this. If it was an end of the world situation and I had to get up and go with only 1 gun. I'd pick the Sig...I'd probably cry the whole time though becuz God do I love my 1911. But I gotta call a strike a strike and a ball a ball. The Sig seems a hell of alot more less finicky.
@@berettaxd7566 oh its super reliable...but rest assure that if i were to be rolling around on the ground with dust, dirt and mud (which I'm sure I would never be) the Sig would outdo the TRP.
It's been my experience too. I love my Remington R1E. But, my P220 is my SHTF gun
Had same problem with one of my 1911 I use living down here in the south it rusted last year I sent it up to this guy in Vermont Karl Sokol I had Him bead blast the rust off tune up gun and put on one of his mountain tough finish.
Nice review guys. Love the Legion reviews
Really appreciate the quality trigger analysis!
Thanks Chris! Have a good one Sir.
I have found that with 1911's it's a hit or miss, and with the Sig 220 it's good to go right out of the box!!! My pick Sig 220 any day!!!
Amen!
My 220 runs everything. my 1911 jams on some jhp! Lost all faith with my 1911 after that! I still like it but strictly for range fun and 1911 nostalgia.
@@BDAILY365 there are advantages to ball! Penetration, cost. You never know when you might need to penetrate through a front door in a Belgian village home in 12/44 to bring down an SS trooper loading a new mag into his MP40!
Thanks for the review men.
Interesting video. I have not been keeping up with what is new at SIG for over 2 decades and it's for the simple reason my P220 I bought in 1992 has been my go to gun since that day that I never bothered looking to replace it. But now you done it. BTW: I still have the receipt and it says $295. And it was a brand new gun. Won't be seeing those kind of prices ever again.
Great video! I love my P220 legion! I had issue with the slide release as well, but out of nowhere it works fine for me now.
Great comparison video, guys! I don’t have a Vigil, but I do have a P220 Legion though and it’s quite a gun. Mine is an earlier version and the finish mars easy.
Great timing on this review... Was just in the local gun shop earlier today and looked at the P220 Legion. Handed it back to the guy and said it's a sweet gun, but I already have a 1911 that serves the same purpose. However, I see a Legion P226 in my future. Great review guys.
rednkitaln yes sir, and thank you very much for sending in the comment. Both of these pistols are most excellent in their own right, and worth considering as a purchase for most handgun collectors.
👊🥳😎👍🇺🇸. Beretta Sr.
@rednkitain. As an owner of a P226 and P220, you are make a great choice if you are looking for a 226.
Superb video and comparison. Love that Dan Wesson. Now, if I were to pick a .45 out of the box for defensive purposes, I would get a SIG P220. A 1911 can be extremely reliable (and I have no doubt that DW are excellent in that department), but typically one would have to run a few 100's round into it to be comfortable that it works reliably. The P220, on the other hand, just tends to work out of the box.
I agree with your comment here John. Very well said! Stay Safe out there.
Beretta Sr. 🥳😎👊👍🇺🇸.
With any ammo you can think of! I just want a short reset trigger.
I’ve owned and carried Sig P-Series since 1987. Never joined the striker-fire gangs. Why would I?
The reason I love you guys your honest pure and simple hard to find 100 thumbs up.
Thanks Mike! Much Respect, and Merry Christmas. 🤠🇺🇸👍⭐️
My Kimber is my most accurate 45 I've ever owned. I've sold multiple 1911's off in the past. Carried the 220 for over a decade. I'm a small guy with small hands. That Sig just fits, always works, accurate, utilitarian tool that hides well appendix carry. Not selling my Kimber but I've never sold a old school Sig.
Chris Pachnik Thanks for sharing Sir! I loved reading your comment! 👊🥳😎👍🇺🇸. Beretta Sr.
One thing in regards to the rust issues found on the DW hammers. I have found great success using a protective coating called EEZOX. Since using this, I have not experienced any rust since. Another great benefit, EEZOX does not attract dust and/or debris.
I just bought new 226 legion. My favorite pistol now! Going to replace my1911 with 220. I like the decocker option. And pistol over all.
This is quickly becoming one of my favorite channels, any chance you guys have plans to review the new Springfield Armory Vickers Master Class 1911?
Mikey Highway I would like to, but we just ordered a Wilson Combat each and we already ordered a Les Baer each, so I think we are done for this year. 👊🥳😎👍🇺🇸. Beretta Sr.
@@BERETTA9mmUSA your wish came true
So nice that Wesson.
WHAT A FANTASTIC REVIEW ON BOTH THE SIG & DAN WESSON
Thanks for watching James!! More Good ones coming this Summer of 2020! Stay Safe out there. 🥳😎👍👊🇺🇸
Beretta Sr.
No rusty hammer? Just kidding! Two nice weapons and thanks for the comparison!
I am in the 7th month of EDC and it is covered in Rust again. One bad thing about some of the Dan Wesson 1911’s.
Always 💯% Honest. I still love it and it is always on my side when I am off duty. I carry a Glock 21 Gen 4 on duty. 🥳😎👊👍🇺🇸. Beretta Sr.
Great video once again. I own and carry the Sig P220 Legion SAO. Now, if you ever get the chance, I'd love to see a comparison between the Dan Wesson 1911 and the P220 Legion SAO. I think you'll be impressed.
learned a lot. I have only one 1911 a Sig Scorpion really like it but want to add a new one either a Dan Wesson Specialist or a Kimber Raptor V2.
The DW Specialist is Awesome in the Black or Silver Finish and you can find both Reviews on our Channel. Great Pick for sure!! As far as the Kimber is concerned..... I have not owned a Kimber in 8 years when they started having some quality problems. I have also head Kimber will not work with Gun Channel, and sees no value in what we do. I think that is stupid and I will not spend my money on a company that dislikes our industry or testing, because they do not want independent reviews or reviewers out there. Their overall attitude has been very poor the last couple years, because we have talked to them. Good Luck John, if you buy a Kimber, I would love to watch a video on it, or The Specialist for that matter. 🥳😎👊👍🇺🇸. Beretta Sr.
Both great pistols, I went with the Dan Wesson.
C Kim I am finishing this month of July 2020 up and I have CCW a 1911 for one year, and I may make a video on it. 👊🥳😎👍🇺🇸. Beretta Sr.
I’ve got both a p226 and p229 Legion in 9mm, and a p220 Legion is most definitely on my list. The DA first trigger pull is hard to get used to, at least for me, but it’s hard to beat the Legion line. Great review!
Try the P220 10mm, different animal
I Love them all, including the P220 10MM Legion. I think the Legions are the Best Sigs Ever! That’s my opinion after owning almost 10 of the P-Series so far.
👊🥳😎👍🇺🇸. Beretta Sr.
Less mussel flip. Good, answered my question! 👍
Both Great firearms....but that 1911 is sick👊🇺🇸
Love that legion. It would look nice with my x5 legion.
I think you had a very interesting and valid comparison going here, and not one that most people would have thought to do. But you lose some points, if I understood you correctly, for comparing a stock Dan Wesson to a SIG P220 with an aftermarket recoil reduction system installed. This hardly seems like a fair comparison, but at least you disclosed it. Sorry if that seems like nitpicking, but I probably would have put the factory recoil system back in for the video.
I knew something was up when you said the P220 had less muzzle flip than a similar weight 1911. I've owned P220's since the arrived in 1975 as the BDA, and low muzzle flip has never been their strong suit in stock guns. But other than that, I think this was an interesting comparison of two guns designed for the same mission and at similar price points. I find it interesting that we are looking at a top of the line SIG, versus an entry level Dan Wesson. I own both and they are fine handguns.
Are the finishes listed on the site or is there a database if some sort to show the differences?
Now that's nice matchup!
Both Big Time Winners in my Book! Thanks for watching my friend.
Beretta Sr.
Can you do a comparison with the Dan Wesson Specialist vs Sig P220 Legion?
I just bought the p220 legion flat trigger SAO. Can't wait to shoot it. It was between these two guns too. Hope they made the right choice
Got a 226 legion and I don't have too much trouble w the slide release. May be different on a 220 but I think it may just be practice
Is the chamber fully supported on the SIG ? Looking at getting one, but no one in my area has one for me to look at
+BERETTA9mmUSA two very nice pistols. I would choose the Sig. Thanks for another informative video. Cheers!
MDpolo Gun Channel That Sig P220 Legion in 45ACP is Awesome. “The Legion Line” may be one of the Best from Sig..... in the last 25 years anyway. IMO
👊🥳😎👍🇺🇸. Beretta Sr.
BERETTA9mmUSA I agree.
The Dan Wesson Rust on the interior of the hammers still mystifies me. Is it only inside of the skeletonized hammer and not on the outer surfaces ? If so the issue might be the sanding tool that was used to get inside the hammer was most likely also used to sand soft steel with imbedded into the tooling then transferring into the hammer stainless and then rusting. This is one of the most likely causes.
It is now covering the entire hammer before I removed most of it a week or so ago. It slowly gets worse over a few months and then you have to sit down and remove it. I will replace the Hammers in 2022 when I am retired with a Wilson Combat hammer. It will be a top-of-the-line (bulletproof) hammer if they offer it. Take Care! 👊🥳😎👍🇺🇸
Beretta Sr.
Did you notice any difference from the grip safety? Cause this one is one long protruding surface while others have this smaller protruding surface on the end of the lever to insure that the safety will disengage when the purchase from the holster isn't optimal? Sad to see that Sig Sauer will close down production in Germany. It seems they got a bit pissed not getting big government contracts.
And is the Vigil their "entry level "/ cheaper model? I was concerned about lower quality with the model
Mason Raley This is one of their lowest priced 1911 handguns at $1,295 I think it is. I still love them because of how great they are at Everything else , Including accuracy reliability and overall fit and finish minus the hammer. I am considering holding onto these 1911s and eventually having a Wilson combat hammer installed on them. 👊🥳😎👍🇺🇸. Beretta Sr.
I have several DW 1911 (PM and VBOB). Mine are better fitted that what you show. I do have a bit of rust on my PM7 hammer though.
I'd never even heard of beaver tail safeties. Do other brands offer that? Walther? Glock? S&W?
S&W EZ, And 1911 line. Thank-you Doonzman.
I have a SW1911 45 ACP. Thinking about getting a P220 w/SAO trigger in 45 ACP.
I am a Huge 1911 guy, but All The Sig P220 Handguns are Very Special and a must own if at all possible. 🤠👮🏻♂️🇺🇸👍👏👋👻. B9USA Sr.
Wilson Combat 7 round mags work best for me
I only run 7 round mags in my 1911 45's
My 220 legion took about 500 rounds before the slide release would activate. When it was new I couldn’t move it pressing with both thumbs haha.
Thank-you very much for the information. 🤠👮🏻♂️👍🇺🇸
You want some movement. It means it can power through debris
Of all your Dan Wesson's, do you have Dan Wesson ECO? How is it?
The p220 legion is on my to get list
The way Sig discontinues models, I would get one soon if you can. This is a completely awesome Sig P220 as is the 10MM Pistol. 👊🥳😎👍🇺🇸
Beretta Sr.
Very Very beautiful 😍and very good 👍number one 👌first class 👏USA
Why is the extractor a plum color?
A good 1911 is great. Dan Wesson is outstanding. But that Legion has my attention. Going 10mm or 357 Sig in 226 Legion.
@Guardian Minifarm ...got one in both calibers. Great pistols!
@@robertborne895 I am seriously happy for you. Enjoy my friend. Curious, do you carry them?
@Guardian Minifarm ...no, I don’t carry them. Use them at the range and for home defense. I carry an H & K P30 sk. I like hammer fired guns for carry (one can place a thumb on the hammer when reholstering), but the 226 is too heavy. Plus the finish (in my opinion) isn’t as scratch resistant as that of H&K
Which one smoother shooting?
Wow the kid is on POINT! BEWARE
IMHO the sig’s reduced size slide release was a mistake, both in the P220 legion and the P226 legion.
I like'm both & I've owned both P220s & various 1911s. Here's the interesting part: The 1st pistol I've ever owned was a P220, but I traded it for a 1911. I own more 1911s than Sigs, but I carry a Sig more often. Not that my 1911s don't get shot or carried, though. They both really are excellent choices.
Love it Sir!! I agree, but I have been using these 2 Dan Wesson’s 1911’s for over a year now as my only EDC pistols. I love my 1911’s now and I may just stay with them as my EDC for the next couple years, just different ones.... Les Baer, Wilson Combat, or others. 🥳😎👊👍🇺🇸. Beretta Sr.
Semper FI!!
357 Deagle l5 review plz
I'll take the Dan Wesson 1911 for the win, Alex. (I've owned both and didn't like the P220 nearly as much as the Vigil.)
Sean Hadley Right On Sir! Still waiting for my Special Order LB to come in. Yesterday I placed an Order for my First Wilson Combat 1911. The only bad thing is, I have to wait till December 15th 2020 to get it in. The LB should be in around August 15th 2020..... so they will be spread out a little bit which is good for Channel coverage. :) 👊🥳😎👍🇺🇸
Beretta Sr. Stay Safe Out There!!
Looking forward to seeing your new LB on the channel! A Wilson Combat 1911 is on my wishlist as well...Congrats! (You lucky Devil... ;))
Would you say the P220 10mm and a dan wesson 10mm would be a good video or much the same ?
robin taylor thanks for the comment. We had really bad luck with our Dan Wesson 10mm 1911... so that comparison video because of our experience would have been basically saying the DW 10mm Kodiak is not worth the money.. we haven’t had one single issue with the P220 Legion 10mm.. buy it with confidence and plenty of 10mm ammunition with that money you are saving from buying the SIG over the DW. So bottom line tbh, I don’t exactly remember what we said in this video, we filmed it six months ago... So I can’t remember if it was one way or the other. These 2 pistols I can say have never had an issue, aside from the very rusty hammers on both of the DW vigils.. - YB
@@BERETTA9mmUSA as always your quick reply and helpful advice. Thank you and keep up the great content.
I thought the Legion model was stainless steel. Does Sig make an alloy and SS in Legion?
All 3 of my Legions are Steel Slides and Alloy Frames. Beretta Sr.
About that rust on the D&W hammers, you can’t really knock it. People ask for tool steel and carbon steel and whatnot for the superior quality or performance they perceive over a MIM part or a stainless part that may not hold a trigger job as well. It is actually a selling point for a lot of people. It is one of the reasons we pick a more expensive gun over lower priced 1911’s. We asked for the old school cool.
Edit (because I’m a nerd): If the rusty hammer thing really bugged me, I would send the small parts off to have some type of high tech finish applied that wouldn’t affect the dimensions. This goes back to us (the market) requesting a nice steel part. What if the part you replace it with isn’t fit as well as the original? Might be the cheapest and best thing to do refinishing it.
Jim the fact of the matter is Dan Wesson knows of this issue and isn’t doing anything about it. That is horrible customer service and pushing out an inferior product to save a few nickles. The right thing to do would have been to bead blast blue, cerakote or dlc the hammers from the start at their expense… But Dan Wesson/CZ USA didn’t because they don’t care.
@@BERETTA9mmUSA have you by chance replaced it with a Stainless hammer? I reached out to DW, and they recommended my not doing it. Basically told me to keep it oiled, and polish as needed.
I have however been using something called EESOX. I am not a seller by any means. But it does help slow the rust issues.
@@thomaseynon6205 The Full Size Vigil I sold to buy a Les Baer or Alchemy Custom Weaponry…. I can’t remember. I still have the Commander Dan Wesson Vigil and I just brush the hammer the best I can and then oil it. I will replace the Hammer with a Quality Wilson Combat bullet-proof Black Coated Hammer someday. That’s my plan anyway. B9USA Sr.
P220 I bought but never could get into it and sold it after 3 years
I had a few sold them both
Not for everyone..... kinda like Glock, or 1911 Pistols. I know people who dislike all 3, several who hate the 1911 pistols.... they think they are all like the World War 2 1911 pistols and are not willing to even look at the new ones. (Their Loss) The Sig P220 Legion is Awesome! But not for everyone. 👊🥳😎👍🇺🇸. Beretta Sr.
Pistol Pete To be 100% honest it is 4 or 5 of my Cop Friends that come to mind and a “Discussion” I was having with them about how they love Glocks and hate 1911’s as I am the only Cop walking out to my car with a 1911 on my hip and my Glock in its Rig and it is hung over my shoulder. Anyway, I held up my end of the conversation and I am not sure if I changed their minds, but I still respect them..... they just do not like the Best Pistol on Planet Earth. Beretta Sr.
My sig 1911 also has more felt recoil than my Glock 21 and my Sig p220 carry.
All Great Pistols!! Thanks for watching!
🤠👮🏻♂️🐉🇺🇸👍👻😉. B9USA Sr.
I wish there was a CZ in this competition.
I have a legion, I can pull the slide release with min difficulty
It’s just harder to activate on the P220 .45ACP & 10mm legion till the slide release breaks in with use.
Cuase its not a nighthawk lol 😆
Dan Wesson all day
When you discuss movement there is not suppose to be any.
Big tilt to the legion,
Hey Beretta Sr. & Jr., Talk about internal strief and sometimes turmoil trying to decide what to carry and be proficient with! As you guys know, I come from a 1911 family and can shoot them relatively well, but the safety of a DA/SA semi auto also has it's benefits. Although I have never owned a Sig Legion Series I have had and still own quite a few Sigs in 9mm and 45 acp with what I thought to be the best of both worlds being the P245 and or the P227. I've just acquired a primo DW Guardian imgur.com/a/nUji0lq that is a real shooter, but I still have a bunch of "Safe-Queen" 1911 that my Dad built that right now are seemingly inheritance pieces to my LEO Son as they are just too ultimate and sentimental to shoot or carry! Anyway, welcome to my life and good seeing you guys on a regular basis ';-)
Pictures look great! Always good to enjoy them and then pass them on to your Kiddos if the will appreciate them. We sure do love these two types of pistols. Sig P-Series, and 1911 full-size or Commanders Size are just so very good I just have to own 4 or 5 of all of them..... and with 1911’s make that 10 or more. :) I really dig the Legions for new buy Sigs.
Have a good one my friend. 👊🥳😎👍🇺🇸 Beretta Sr.
Sig p220 all day
Great Sig Pistol!! Beretta Sr.
@@BERETTA9mmUSA what's the berretta you in love w?
@@JamesWilson-qw2zq My personal Top 2 are the Beretta 92 and 96. The APX Tactical is OK too. 🇺🇸😎👍
Beretta Sr.
I must try these Berettas now :) @@BERETTA9mmUSA
if you had to pick only one berretta wich one would it be ?@@BERETTA9mmUSA
Beretta SR loves that single handed shooting. I like that.I don't do much of it. I will have to try that more while at the range. At the end of Covid...so, in bed watching some videos. Young Beretta sure can shoot! The Kid is good!!! Both of these are super nice firearms. My favorite trigger on a 1911 is the three triangle model. Just My opinion for The Dan Wesson, it needs a black trigger to complete the "Darth Vader" look. Do You agree? or, do You like it how it is? There isn't a better trigger on earth in a pistol than The 1911. Bar None!
The 1911 is “The True King of Triggers” and several other things. The Blacked out Trigger, and Hammer would look Great! B9USA Sr.
I’ve got the 1911 already. I don’t trust sig
Duas belas armas, mas a 1911 com oito tiros eu acho melhor
Muchas Gracias, my friend! B9USA Sr.