The point was it was a _junior_ astrophysics job. That's fine if you're a junior officer just beginning your career; you can move on to better jobs if you show the talent. Here, the problem was that a middle-aged Picard had dead-ended there. It's sort of like flipping burgers at McDonald's. That's a perfectly fine thing if you're a sixteen year-old kid taking his first job. You're starting out in the working world, beginning to learn how to work as part of a team, how to follow orders from a boss, how to relate to fellow employees and customers. You're supposed to learn from all that, build on it, and move on to better things. If that's what you're still doing at age 40, you have _failed_ at life. By middle age, you should have moved on to another, better career, or if you're still at McDonald's at that age, you should be managing the place, or better still, owner of that location, with two or three or ten other ones as well.
I think it's more that Picard was just doing the assignment he was handed rather than something he was passionate about. If you are passionate about astrophysics then that maybe the perfect job for you. The Enterprise may have the best astrophysics lab in the Federation but if a non-starfleet ship had a better lab that officer may leave star fleet to join another ship for all we know. It could also be he just wants something to do and doesn't really care what it is. We are all driven differently that doesn't mean the captain doesn't respect him. I for instance work a lot harder than my coworkers I am driven and expect to rise the through the ranks and gain seniority faster than my peers, and I have so far. Yet I still respect them we live different lives and make different choices. I would not respect myself if I switched lives with them but I can still respect their decisions not to put in 60 or 70 hour weeks. I can respect them because I know that they have passion it just differs from mine.
One more reason to this list of why i love Q. He may act childish at times, but at the end of the day, his wisdom is not to be challenged. the thing that separates him from other Q is his experience without his powers. it no doubt changed him. that is why i respect him more than any other of his kind.
Not really, the issue as to why Picard didn't want to be that person was because that person's life was unexciting because his safe choices lead him there, whereas Picard made massive risks to get to being the captain of the Enterprise.
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@@StrikeWarlock Teaching us what? That cowardice, peer pressure, hot-headedness, and luck are what is needed to succeed in life?
For some, being a dreary man in a tedious job is something to aspire to. Not everyone can (or even should) be Captain. But there is nothing more tragic than a man with the potential to be a Captain, failing to realize it.
@ "If we don't take risks, we can't get a payoff." Picard was an old men in a position decades behind where he should be in that alternate life. His safe bets stunted his career's growth and diminished his options, he had nowhere to go with no choices left in his life. A 25 year old ensign on the Enterprise surpassing a 55 year old man is a travesty.
DarthRushy Ah, gotcha. Yeah, I haven't seen any of them myself. But the previews I've seen look less than stellar. Mind you, I reserve judgement until I actually see the movie.
This is my all time favorite TNG scene because I can relate to it so much... I ran from so many fights in my life. If I could do my life over, I would not run, I would fight.
As someone who did both, neither is really worth much. You might look back and begrudge your actions or inactions, but the truth is that very few circumstances are within your control to begin with. Just look at where we are today - pandemic raging, economy spiraling, the billionaires reveling. There's not a whole lot we as individuals can do here. If you want to fight, the only effective place is within a group.
Sometimes there are no perfect options and only in hindsight do you realise you took the least worst option. You're alive to contemplate it, so that's a good start.
After my car accident, I realized I could not waste my life in dead end jobs. So I enlisted and am now halfway to a government pension. So this episode rings true for me.
Also, Barclay is clearly a brilliant engineer, and has a natural gift for the role he's in. Whereas the alt Picard likely had no real talent or passion for astrophysics. The "real" Picard doesn't seem to have exceptional expertise with astrophysics, so the alt Picard likely just stumbled into the role.
My brother worked at a supermarket for fifteen years, he worked in kitchens and on counters, he put in overtime and on certain holidays and he said something that stuck with me, he never once got in trouble for being late or doing something foolhardy and always took issues and complaints to his supervisors but he said his face didn't fit around there and not being a prick ensured they kept him doing crap jobs. the only time he ever got offered a promotion was when he finally quit and went to collage to study to teach.
Ricky Spanish I myself have been dealt similar, but completely different, circumstances. When I was 21 in October 2004, I was involved in a shooting; partially my fault. Depression and PTSD kept me from moving forward ever since, and now at 32, I have no life. I never took risks in this life, and the one time I did, I almost got two other people killed, and it could have killed me too. If I could go back and do things all over again, I'd take another path out of High School, rather than trying for Law Enforcement, which was doomed to fail the moment I started on it. That became more apparent the longer I tried, but I chose to ignore it. Now I wish I had done something grossly different; a court clerk or something. Or Construction. Or going to work for the Railroad when I had the chance. Instead, I ended up doing Private Security work for 8 goddamn years; working on job sites out of my car and old broom closets for offices. Oh, if only I could go back in time...... This episode, as well as "Inner Light", are two of my favorites.
@@Christopher-o_O Well, I'm moving 100 miles south to my first house at the end of the month, so that's a huge positive. No more living in apartments. Got some good job opportunities down there too. So I'm doing okay, thanks. But 2020 has been rough, especially for all of us with this pandemic. I got sick earlier this year, and I had to put my cat to sleep as well. 2020 can go fuck itself.....what an awful year.
Let me tell you all - this entire episode is so strong. It has spirit. THIS is the spirit of entrepreneur which causes you to overlook the pains of the day to seize the opportunities of tomorrow. This episode is dripping, overflowing, and gushing with excellence. I will not be that safe man that you guys saw. I will risk as an entrepreneur and I will refer to this in the future!
I love seeing this clip, again and again, it keeps reminding us that life is a game of chances that must be taken to evolve not drifted, that you must live life with passion and imagination. And Q, although he starts as though he is upset that Picard is complaining about this new chance, you can tell that he's just as disappointed as Picard (if not more) about how this Picard's life turned out.
This reminds me of something... "Risk - risk is our business. That's what building this starship was all about. That's why we're aboard her." ~ James Tiberius Kirk
There's another element. This isn't "It's a wonderful life", which the message is "You've had a good influence on everything". It's "You cannot pick and choose what's happened in your life because you are who you are from everything in your life." By choosing to remove something he thought was a distasteful, shameful event of his past, Picard destroyed the essence of who he was because he never stopped to think about how all the events in his life, good and bad, shaped his character.
The whole thing brings a tear to my eye. Picard knows from experience that starting that fight is the stupidest thing he could possibly do. And now he also knows from experience that that's what needs to happen.
It shows how the relationshipbetween Q and picard developed. Q who originally was suppose to judge humanity based off of Picard learned humanity so much that he was even able to teach picard. THe two actors are fantastic together.
_"I can't live out my days as that person. That man is bereft of passion, and imagination!"_ Why does this speak so profoundly to me, when I reflect on my own life?
This scene always gave me chills every time I watched it. I think everyone reflects back on their past and wonders if they should have took that "chance" after viewing this.
As a middle aged man going through a mid life crisis, full of regret for not taking chances by always playing it safe rather than pursuing my dreams, I see this episode with different eyes now than I did when it was first aired. I wish Q would pay me a visit about now.
Discord (Q): I gave a second chance at life , Twilight Sparkle! You wanted to see what life would've been like hadn't lived in Ponyville....and now ALL you can do...is complain? Twilight: That's not how I want to live, Discord! That young pony was bereft of magic....and FRIENDSHIP!!
This is EXACTLY why you shouldn't wish to reset your life because you can "do better". Your past experiences shaped the person you are today and any alternative would have a far worse resolve as Picard here found out. Look at how Picard ripped apart his friendships from before among other huge mistakes that his old self would have never made.
There are times to play it safe, yes, and then there are times to take risks. In Picard's case, the one risk he didn't take influenced his entire professional life afterward. That's all part of the "tapestry"; when you pull a thread, you lose an entire section of what made you the person you are :)
I find it awesome how in Star Trek Legacy you could actually play through the moment Picard takes command of the Stargazer when the captain dies. Pretty interesting.
The way I see it, there are no mundane employees in the Star Trek universe. Since earth appearently doesn't even require money in the future, they are lucky to even get anyone to sign up for any jobs. Think about it, if you could travel around on Earth and live like a king at any exotic resort that strikes your fancy (all for free!) for your entire life, would you apply for a job? Let alone a job as regimented as a Star Fleet officer? Let's be honest, any Earthling in the Star Trek universe who so much as HAS a job should be lauded as a hero, whether they be janitors or admirals.
That was always one of the problems with a utopian society like the one Star Trek gives us; who in their right mind would work especially a low job? My take was that a vast majority of the people in the Star Trek universe do work, not out of some requirement but out of something deeper. So there are very few that just travel the world (or galaxy) just livin' it up, even though everyone could. It's probably a pipe dream, but I think it's what Roddenberry was going for.
John Dana The problem with your comment about conservatives is.. Conservatives promote smaller government and the idea of individualism as apposed to the 'Collective'. Individuals are the creators of ideas, not governments... Even Jesus said there will always be poor.. Do you honestly believe that the 'Federation' would allow people to just exist and offer nothing to society, but consume resources?.. No, they would have genetically weeded out the lazy and unproductive..Just like a conservative like myself would do .
Allow me to sum up your comment into one quote from the educational and excellent movie Star Trek: First Contact. iquote: "No money?! That means you don't get paid!" You don't get the idea of living in that time. which is why you would never make it. In that time, humanity works to better themselves. Pride in their kind and the desire to evolve and better themselves are the driving forces of their lives, instead of the greedy desire to collect valuebles. resources are merely a side thing. As for getting famous, that works in the same pattern in the 23rd century as it does now. In that time, Just like now,no matter what line of work you are in, people who go above and beyond get noted for it. People who don't go above and beyond don't get noticed.
This is very though provoking. But there are no actual great men and women. Just those who see something that needs to be done and do it because, to them, to do anyything else is unthinkable. For Picard not to attack that Nausican under those circumstances, would be, for him, unthinkable.
You know I thought about that for a moment and maybe it's just the opposite. Sisko is half Prophet and who the hell knows what they could do? They did wipe out over 10,000 Dominion ships with no trace. Perhaps they are closer in evolution to the Q and he just didn't want to mess with that. And you're right. Sisko's human half is just too easy of a target.
no, it's about accepting that even the shamefull part of your personality the part you rather erase, is part of who you are. Q was never serious about letting Picard stay as a boring lieutenant or letting him die. He just wanting to teach him a lesson
He did screw with them but in the last episode of STNG he protected them from the rest of the Q Continuum who wanted to end the existence of humanity. Makes him a good guy in my world.
he was also the voice of Discord from My Little Pony: Friendship is Magic...but again, that would be him playing the bad guy. actors name is John de Lancie
Going well bro- still fighting the fight and making progress. Had a partner leave the company but I'm still moving forward irregardless. Only person strong enough to stop your dreams if YOU. Either God finds it good for you to be laid to rest or one takes responsibility for their life and fights for life.
I agree, andf there is even more to that. The World could not live if everybody were Boss, and nobody were working. A ship full of captains would explode in 3 minutes!
So don't take the risks life offers. Be safe and mediocre (and critical, I might add). Just don't begrudge those who excel past you because they WERE willing to "boldly go".
ok, you and sparkledash1 are just awsome for you're crossovers, both situations have the same important lessons to cosider, but I just love the drama and contrast it brings in mlp fim, and I thank you both for your choice of diolauge, I don't know how long it took you guys to make it, but I think I would have 2 take many tries 2 get it right
No it's not. It's one where he was given a chance to change a certain point in his life where he was stabbed in the heart, and the result was a future with nothing to look forward to for the reasons Q mentioned.
thanks additional, the actor that plays data also plays a weird french, Ostrich farmer, guy in 'dude where's my car?' named Pierre and several other parts from many movies John De Lancie only just barely rises above Brent Spiner
Q: "You did something today that's never been done before, something even a great captain like Kirk the Bearded was not able to do, because he did not understand friendship like you do, you have proven that you're ready, Picard."
True but for some reason they were clearly playing up the physical strength of the Romulus, much like they clearly down played the need for a real rank system… "Well cadet, congratulations you are now captain of the federation flagship!" or how starship sensors did not work while at warp or how the first time cadets saw something in orbit of earth was they left the academy. and several other odd things I can't think of right now.
@steveconn in first contact picard says that humans evolved and now did not need money as an incentive to work, but simply working to improve oneself and to gain knowledge. This explanation is understandable for guys like picard, but i always thought about if this noble motivation also holds for the odinary guy, who has to do routine assignments all day. As we see here picards evolved personality is also not capable to motivate for such a job...economy in star trek is ridiculous.
In my opinion his Voyager appearances did much to further his and the q's back round.And my whole point was that he doesn't see Kathryn as a playmate, but more of a confidant. Q was also certainly evolved enough to not just pick the most attractive female but one with the most qualities he admires in human women. I hardly call naming her his child's godmother as thinking she is a labrat like John Luck Pickerd! lol
I always did wonder why the Captain and the Bridge staff never seem to deal with the gritty reality of mass casualties after their epic space battles... They could at least have included some scenes (it could be a quick montage) in which Picard is visiting the injured in Sickbay, comforting the families of those who had died, and honouring all of them with a ceremonial speech.
"That man is bereft of passion and imagination!" Welcome to the workplace Jean Luc.
I do feel sorry for the real junior astrophysics officer on the Enterprise-D, knowing that your captain has such a low opinion of you. :(
@wmfivethree Seeing the rest of the Enterprise crew aged appropriately, I would say he is 56 in fact.
The point was it was a _junior_ astrophysics job. That's fine if you're a junior officer just beginning your career; you can move on to better jobs if you show the talent. Here, the problem was that a middle-aged Picard had dead-ended there. It's sort of like flipping burgers at McDonald's. That's a perfectly fine thing if you're a sixteen year-old kid taking his first job. You're starting out in the working world, beginning to learn how to work as part of a team, how to follow orders from a boss, how to relate to fellow employees and customers. You're supposed to learn from all that, build on it, and move on to better things. If that's what you're still doing at age 40, you have _failed_ at life. By middle age, you should have moved on to another, better career, or if you're still at McDonald's at that age, you should be managing the place, or better still, owner of that location, with two or three or ten other ones as well.
I think it's more that Picard was just doing the assignment he was handed rather than something he was passionate about. If you are passionate about astrophysics then that maybe the perfect job for you. The Enterprise may have the best astrophysics lab in the Federation but if a non-starfleet ship had a better lab that officer may leave star fleet to join another ship for all we know. It could also be he just wants something to do and doesn't really care what it is. We are all driven differently that doesn't mean the captain doesn't respect him.
I for instance work a lot harder than my coworkers I am driven and expect to rise the through the ranks and gain seniority faster than my peers, and I have so far. Yet I still respect them we live different lives and make different choices. I would not respect myself if I switched lives with them but I can still respect their decisions not to put in 60 or 70 hour weeks. I can respect them because I know that they have passion it just differs from mine.
One more reason to this list of why i love Q. He may act childish at times, but at the end of the day, his wisdom is not to be challenged. the thing that separates him from other Q is his experience without his powers. it no doubt changed him. that is why i respect him more than any other of his kind.
When you have lived several
Billion years, for sure.....
*Q* really loved Picard.....
@@carminemurphy4836 If i recall, he did say he would have shown up as a woman if he knew Picard's vulnerability.
One of the best episodes ever!
not my fav. The Inner Light was far better + award winning.
Tommy simonsen
Ah, yes, I dimly remember that episode...
Yeah, there´d be no nailing to trees be done with him
I guess this clip is less relevant today for ol thundercuck.
Nice to see Picard breaking out the old Kirk double fist gut punch.
"As a dreary man in a tedious job -like roughly 95% of the 2000 people on my ship. I mean, they work for me but I certainly dont respect them."
ocerg1111 an aspect of this episode so often overlooked.
Not really, the issue as to why Picard didn't want to be that person was because that person's life was unexciting because his safe choices lead him there, whereas Picard made massive risks to get to being the captain of the Enterprise.
@@StrikeWarlock Teaching us what? That cowardice, peer pressure, hot-headedness, and luck are what is needed to succeed in life?
For some, being a dreary man in a tedious job is something to aspire to. Not everyone can (or even should) be Captain.
But there is nothing more tragic than a man with the potential to be a Captain, failing to realize it.
@ "If we don't take risks, we can't get a payoff." Picard was an old men in a position decades behind where he should be in that alternate life. His safe bets stunted his career's growth and diminished his options, he had nowhere to go with no choices left in his life. A 25 year old ensign on the Enterprise surpassing a 55 year old man is a travesty.
"I would rather die as the man I was, than live the life I just saw." -Capt. Jean Luc Picard.
+Vladpryde I think that's what many Star Trek fans would say of their show as well.
DarthRushy
...sorry, you lost me. How would the quote I posted apply to the show?
Vladpryde Sorry, I meant franchise. Everybody is always moaning about the new movies.
DarthRushy
Ah, gotcha. Yeah, I haven't seen any of them myself. But the previews I've seen look less than stellar.
Mind you, I reserve judgement until I actually see the movie.
Vladpryde The 2009 one is actually good, it's fun escapism. But Into Darkness is just a lazy retread of ST2.
This is my all time favorite TNG scene because I can relate to it so much... I ran from so many fights in my life. If I could do my life over, I would not run, I would fight.
Me as well. Good comment.
As someone who did both, neither is really worth much. You might look back and begrudge your actions or inactions, but the truth is that very few circumstances are within your control to begin with. Just look at where we are today - pandemic raging, economy spiraling, the billionaires reveling. There's not a whole lot we as individuals can do here. If you want to fight, the only effective place is within a group.
Sometimes there are no perfect options and only in hindsight do you realise you took the least worst option. You're alive to contemplate it, so that's a good start.
After my car accident, I realized I could not waste my life in dead end jobs. So I enlisted and am now halfway to a government pension. So this episode rings true for me.
@@SeansModelBuilds ur in military?
One of the greatest TNG episodes. "I would rather die as the man I was, than live the life I just saw." He meant it.
I still find it hard to believe that even a timid Picard could only manage one promotion in his entire career. Even Barclay made full Lieutenant
Actually, by the time of Star Trek: Voyager, he had been promoted again, to the rank of Lt. Commander
NWAWskeptic Barclay was timid because he was socially awkward, not cowardly. When push came to shove, he stood up. He’s one of my favs from the show.
TMach5 agreed. There’s not really any evidence that he “played it safe” in the performance of his duty.
Also, Barclay is clearly a brilliant engineer, and has a natural gift for the role he's in. Whereas the alt Picard likely had no real talent or passion for astrophysics. The "real" Picard doesn't seem to have exceptional expertise with astrophysics, so the alt Picard likely just stumbled into the role.
My brother worked at a supermarket for fifteen years, he worked in kitchens and on counters, he put in overtime and on certain holidays and he said something that stuck with me, he never once got in trouble for being late or doing something foolhardy and always took issues and complaints to his supervisors but he said his face didn't fit around there and not being a prick ensured they kept him doing crap jobs. the only time he ever got offered a promotion was when he finally quit and went to collage to study to teach.
Ricky Spanish I myself have been dealt similar, but completely different, circumstances. When I was 21 in October 2004, I was involved in a shooting; partially my fault. Depression and PTSD kept me from moving forward ever since, and now at 32, I have no life. I never took risks in this life, and the one time I did, I almost got two other people killed, and it could have killed me too.
If I could go back and do things all over again, I'd take another path out of High School, rather than trying for Law Enforcement, which was doomed to fail the moment I started on it. That became more apparent the longer I tried, but I chose to ignore it. Now I wish I had done something grossly different; a court clerk or something. Or Construction. Or going to work for the Railroad when I had the chance.
Instead, I ended up doing Private Security work for 8 goddamn years; working on job sites out of my car and old broom closets for offices. Oh, if only I could go back in time......
This episode, as well as "Inner Light", are two of my favorites.
if you don't ask you don't get
@@Vladpryde Might seem strange, but I'm genuinely curious. How's your life today?
@@Christopher-o_O Well, I'm moving 100 miles south to my first house at the end of the month, so that's a huge positive. No more living in apartments. Got some good job opportunities down there too. So I'm doing okay, thanks.
But 2020 has been rough, especially for all of us with this pandemic. I got sick earlier this year, and I had to put my cat to sleep as well. 2020 can go fuck itself.....what an awful year.
@@Vladpryde have faith my brother, almost same here prior service but didn't work out, we gonna find our purpose
Whenever I find myself regretting choices I made in my life, I always remember this episode!
The irony of the omnipotent being lecturing a mortal on his mortality...
Yes. One of the many meandering precepts Trek demamds of the viewer.
11 people didn't have any Gramba.
"Are you asking me for something, Jean-Luc?" -- My favorite line here. Classic Q.
Let me tell you all - this entire episode is so strong. It has spirit. THIS is the spirit of entrepreneur which causes you to overlook the pains of the day to seize the opportunities of tomorrow. This episode is dripping, overflowing, and gushing with excellence. I will not be that safe man that you guys saw. I will risk as an entrepreneur and I will refer to this in the future!
Television is no longer produced to such a high standard of efficacy and professionalism. This shit is the stuff of legends.
I love seeing this clip, again and again, it keeps reminding us that life is a game of chances that must be taken to evolve not drifted, that you must live life with passion and imagination.
And Q, although he starts as though he is upset that Picard is complaining about this new chance, you can tell that he's just as disappointed as Picard (if not more) about how this Picard's life turned out.
This reminds me of something... "Risk - risk is our business. That's what building this starship was all about. That's why we're aboard her." ~ James Tiberius Kirk
There's another element. This isn't "It's a wonderful life", which the message is "You've had a good influence on everything". It's "You cannot pick and choose what's happened in your life because you are who you are from everything in your life."
By choosing to remove something he thought was a distasteful, shameful event of his past, Picard destroyed the essence of who he was because he never stopped to think about how all the events in his life, good and bad, shaped his character.
I like how this episode folds over itself. Not many notice but Q made Picard who he is today in a way. sort of like a time paradox.
The whole thing brings a tear to my eye. Picard knows from experience that starting that fight is the stupidest thing he could possibly do. And now he also knows from experience that that's what needs to happen.
I'm in love with John De Lancie's voice
I know! Me too.
"Better to live one day as a tiger than a thousand years as a sheep." --Tibetan Proverb
I use Q's monolog for my acting auditions. Just...wow. Floors me every time I watch
Picard's feeling a little blue.
Picard kicks the predators ass once again.
That speech by Q always gives me the chills, because he was always more than the prankster... He knows Picard better than he knows himself.
It shows how the relationshipbetween Q and picard developed. Q who originally was suppose to judge humanity based off of Picard learned humanity so much that he was even able to teach picard. THe two actors are fantastic together.
_"I can't live out my days as that person. That man is bereft of passion, and imagination!"_
Why does this speak so profoundly to me, when I reflect on my own life?
This is my favorite scenes in the series. Realizing that life is not a tragedy, it's a series of choices and experiences.
This scene always gave me chills every time I watched it. I think everyone reflects back on their past and wonders if they should have took that "chance" after viewing this.
As a middle aged man going through a mid life crisis, full of regret for not taking chances by always playing it safe rather than pursuing my dreams, I see this episode with different eyes now than I did when it was first aired. I wish Q would pay me a visit about now.
Coward? Man, that alien friggin' stabbed him from BEHIND. That's not exactly bravery right there.
yeah well nosicans think other people are cowards when it happens to everyone else but them.
Discord (Q): I gave a second chance at life , Twilight Sparkle! You wanted to see what life would've been like hadn't lived in Ponyville....and now ALL you can do...is complain?
Twilight: That's not how I want to live, Discord! That young pony was bereft of magic....and FRIENDSHIP!!
This is EXACTLY why you shouldn't wish to reset your life because you can "do better". Your past experiences shaped the person you are today and any alternative would have a far worse resolve as Picard here found out. Look at how Picard ripped apart his friendships from before among other huge mistakes that his old self would have never made.
Captain! It cannot be...
...that is to say, I am pleased to chance upon you.
By far my favorite scene by John De Lancie. So inspiring. If you watch this and still don't live every day to the fullest, you have no...grambah...
There are times to play it safe, yes, and then there are times to take risks. In Picard's case, the one risk he didn't take influenced his entire professional life afterward. That's all part of the "tapestry"; when you pull a thread, you lose an entire section of what made you the person you are :)
I find it awesome how in Star Trek Legacy you could actually play through the moment Picard takes command of the Stargazer when the captain dies. Pretty interesting.
Gets tired of trolling star captains.
Reincarnates as a chimera and starts trolling ponies.
I saw this Masterpiece of an episode when ut first aired in February 1993. I can't believe that was over 18 and a half years ago.
Thanks for posting this! This is one of my favorite episodes. Most of us (including me) ARE that "dreary man in a tedious job." lol
this episode is kind of its a wonderful life but not a copy, great concept execution in the star trek universe
"There's an old cat saying, "It's better to live one hour as a tiger than a whole lifetime as a worm."
This is by far my favorite episode.
Q was one of my favourite characters.
Some great advice written into that dialog. Take chances and sieze opportunities! You never know how things will turn out.
one of the best episodes of TNG
He was the voice of Dr Quest in the Jonny Quest series from the 90s.
Because he went on to be a science specialty rather then a tactical specialty
The way I see it, there are no mundane employees in the Star Trek universe. Since earth appearently doesn't even require money in the future, they are lucky to even get anyone to sign up for any jobs. Think about it, if you could travel around on Earth and live like a king at any exotic resort that strikes your fancy (all for free!) for your entire life, would you apply for a job? Let alone a job as regimented as a Star Fleet officer? Let's be honest, any Earthling in the Star Trek universe who so much as HAS a job should be lauded as a hero, whether they be janitors or admirals.
Bravo...You nailed it my friend.
That was always one of the problems with a utopian society like the one Star Trek gives us; who in their right mind would work especially a low job?
My take was that a vast majority of the people in the Star Trek universe do work, not out of some requirement but out of something deeper. So there are very few that just travel the world (or galaxy) just livin' it up, even though everyone could. It's probably a pipe dream, but I think it's what Roddenberry was going for.
John Dana
The problem with your comment about conservatives is..
Conservatives promote smaller government and the idea of individualism as apposed to the 'Collective'.
Individuals are the creators of ideas, not governments...
Even Jesus said there will always be poor..
Do you honestly believe that the 'Federation' would allow people to just exist and offer nothing to society, but consume resources?..
No, they would have genetically weeded out the lazy and unproductive..Just like a conservative like myself would do
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Something I have often pondered as well.
Allow me to sum up your comment into one quote from the educational and excellent movie Star Trek: First Contact.
iquote: "No money?! That means you don't get paid!" You don't get the idea of living in that time. which is why you would never make it. In that time, humanity works to better themselves. Pride in their kind and the desire to evolve and better themselves are the driving forces of their lives, instead of the greedy desire to collect valuebles. resources are merely a side thing.
As for getting famous, that works in the same pattern in the 23rd century as it does now. In that time, Just like now,no matter what line of work you are in, people who go above and beyond get noted for it. People who don't go above and beyond don't get noticed.
My favorite episode.
This is very though provoking. But there are no actual great men and women. Just those who see something that needs to be done and do it because, to them, to do anyything else is unthinkable. For Picard not to attack that Nausican under those circumstances, would be, for him, unthinkable.
And he laughed with a big blade sticking out of his chest. That takes balls.
You know I thought about that for a moment and maybe it's just the opposite. Sisko is half Prophet and who the hell knows what they could do? They did wipe out over 10,000 Dominion ships with no trace. Perhaps they are closer in evolution to the Q and he just didn't want to mess with that. And you're right. Sisko's human half is just too easy of a target.
no, it's about accepting that even the shamefull part of your personality the part you rather erase, is part of who you are. Q was never serious about letting Picard stay as a boring lieutenant or letting him die. He just wanting to teach him a lesson
He did screw with them but in the last episode of STNG he protected them from the rest of the Q Continuum who wanted to end the existence of humanity. Makes him a good guy in my world.
Holy frak - how did I miss such an epic episode??! * Runs to CraveTV account *
he was also the voice of Discord from My Little Pony: Friendship is Magic...but again, that would be him playing the bad guy. actors name is John de Lancie
Punching aliens in the face... the secret to living a rich, fulfilling life. Picard styles.
If there was ever a new Fantastic Four Cartoon, he would make a good Dr. Doom.
Q may seem annoying at times but he does offer help in his own twisted way
This has to be my favorite episode,
Going well bro- still fighting the fight and making progress. Had a partner leave the company but I'm still moving forward irregardless. Only person strong enough to stop your dreams if YOU. Either God finds it good for you to be laid to rest or one takes responsibility for their life and fights for life.
TNG has wonderful episodes, but I think Tapestry is the best out of all of them.
8 people talk and talk, but have no GRAMBA!
so...essentially, Q is saying YOLO....
It's also the message of one of the few genuinely good scenes of Star Trek V. This episode just explores it better.
Its so wierd so see picard in a blue uniform
These are the moments that can make you or brake you. (Sometimes there's some things that cannot be explained).
Some of these videos make me really miss TNG!
it's called "Tapestry", season 6 episode 15^^
the cool/sad part is that picard fought better in his bar fight then kirk did in the abrams movie and kirk wasn't fighting anything near that mean.
I agree, andf there is even more to that. The World could not live if everybody were Boss, and nobody were working. A ship full of captains would explode in 3 minutes!
this man is the current Picard
Q...the real star of this show...after Data, after Picard, and the Clingon ship...
i wish tv shows were as good this show was, actors today cant hold a cup of water to these actors
Q actually saves his life they become good friends eventually
Ironic. It was also Q who said "Don't provoke the Borg". Where's that sense of entrepreneurship?
One of my favorite scenes of STNG.
So don't take the risks life offers. Be safe and mediocre (and critical, I might add). Just don't begrudge those who excel past you because they WERE willing to "boldly go".
Q episodes were always the best.
ok, you and sparkledash1 are just awsome for you're crossovers, both situations have the same important lessons to cosider, but I just love the drama and contrast it brings in mlp fim, and I thank you both for your choice of diolauge, I don't know how long it took you guys to make it, but I think I would have 2 take many tries 2 get it right
its a good life lesson: always solve your problems with violence
You missed the point entirely
Extremely provocative.
I'm a huge fan of TNG and a Brony. Imagine my surprise when I hear Discord and realize it's the same actor as Q. Well played MLP....
Yep. This episode is the apex of the Captain's character.
This must be the episode that Picard got demoted.
No it's not. It's one where he was given a chance to change a certain point in his life where he was stabbed in the heart, and the result was a future with nothing to look forward to for the reasons Q mentioned.
He is living in an alternate timeline that Q set him in where he never became the captain of the enterprise.
The greatest moment in Star Trek history.
thanks additional, the actor that plays data also plays a weird french, Ostrich farmer, guy in 'dude where's my car?' named Pierre and several other parts from many movies John De Lancie only just barely rises above Brent Spiner
Q - worst friend ever, but damn what a great character
Q: "You did something today that's never been done before, something even a great captain like Kirk the Bearded was not able to do, because he did not understand friendship like you do, you have proven that you're ready, Picard."
Kirk the Bearded?
True but for some reason they were clearly playing up the physical strength of the Romulus, much like they clearly down played the need for a real rank system…
"Well cadet, congratulations you are now captain of the federation flagship!"
or how starship sensors did not work while at warp
or how the first time cadets saw something in orbit of earth was they left the academy.
and several other odd things I can't think of right now.
That moment when you realize you are Lt. Junior Grade Picard.
I love most how Q isn't cynical in his final choice here, but accepts Picard's admittance of folly. Truly excellent writing!
@steveconn
in first contact picard says that humans evolved and now did not need money as an incentive to work, but simply working to improve oneself and to gain knowledge. This explanation is understandable for guys like picard, but i always thought about if this noble motivation also holds for the odinary guy, who has to do routine assignments all day. As we see here picards evolved personality is also not capable to motivate for such a job...economy in star trek is ridiculous.
he's lt junior grade, Q gave him a do over of sorts. Picard wanted to avoid risk and Q showed him what that life would be like.
In my opinion his Voyager appearances did much to further his and the q's back round.And my whole point was that he doesn't see Kathryn as a playmate, but more of a confidant. Q was also certainly evolved enough to not just pick the most attractive female but one with the most qualities he admires in human women.
I hardly call naming her his child's godmother as thinking she is a labrat like John Luck Pickerd! lol
Kinda explains why the senior staff barely gives a shit about all the random Joes who die under their command.
I always did wonder why the Captain and the Bridge staff never seem to deal with the gritty reality of mass casualties after their epic space battles... They could at least have included some scenes (it could be a quick montage) in which Picard is visiting the injured in Sickbay, comforting the families of those who had died, and honouring all of them with a ceremonial speech.