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This is how I pierce that problem: "you know how everybody started putting the letter I in front of their company when the iMac came out? And e in front of their product once email caught on? The Nazis put socialism in their movement title to catch on to the same kind of marketing trend because socialism was very much the hot buzzword of the day in politics. The Nazis were socialist in the same way that cigarettes were a healthy alternative to breathing."
Love it. Bingo.
That's a good way of doing it. I tended to say that if they were socialists because of the name then they would also be Hindu because of their flag, but that one requires a bit more thought.
“The nazis were socialists! That’s why we need a strong sense of nationalism!”
-Actual quote from a trump supporter I know 🤦♂️
That’s like saying “I’m lactose intolerant let’s chug milk”
No they where not. . Just because it was in the name doesn't make them socialist
@@mijicmugendo read the comment again buddy, there’s quotation marks for a reason
@@mijicmugendo
The Third Reich purposely caused a lot of confusion...
@@gourdlord2112
My apologies
@@mijicmugendo Note the quotation marks, and the phrase, "Actual quote from a trump supporter I know"
OP isn't claiming that nazis were socialists, quite the opposite, as their example suggests. You misunderstood.
True ignorance is not the absence of knowledge, but the refusal to acquire it.
- Karl Popper
Just look at evangelical Republicans for an example.
On a related note: "The purpose of education is to replace an empty mind with an open one."
- Malcolm Forbes
Or the Abe Martin version: "It ain't so much not knowin' that makes folks ignorant; it's knowin' what ain't so."
Don't use so much salt on it.
And no margarine.
-- Colonel Popper
(Get it? Kernel Popper?)
I call the refusal to acquire knowledge(or the refusal to USE acquired knowledge) stupidity. Ignorance can be cured.
Since we’re sharing quotes here’s a strong one. “Of course the people don't want war. But after all, it's the leaders of the country who determine the policy, and it's always a simple matter to drag the people along whether it's a democracy, a fascist dictatorship, or a parliament, or a communist dictatorship. Voice or no voice, the people can always be brought to the bidding of the leaders. That is easy. All you have to do is tell them they are being attacked, and denounce the pacifists for lack of patriotism, and exposing the country to greater danger."
-- Herman Goering at the Nuremberg trials
I thought it was the propagandist Goebbels who said that, but yes, I remember it.
As a German subscriber I´m glad you adressed this. However, I used the same argument during an discussion on the ´net with an American alt-right guy and he didn´t even considered this argument as viable - you´ve got no chance against ideological idiotism.
Same here, this was amazing. Those American right wing people should get a time machine and tell the Nazis that they got their ideology wrong.
I'm an American from the South and I don't even know how to get through to these people. I just hope we raise the next generation to be smarter than this.
Cognitive dissonance and belligerent denial are deadly. It has only gotten worse and they are literally repeating history now going after the most marginalized groups using them as scapegoats as a unifying cause. Please let me know you got this reply. They don't like it when I speak truth.
Pastor Martin Niemollar's poetry written on the walls of a concentration camp is more than just a thought. Thanks for this
“If there is a God, He will have to beg my forgiveness.” - A quote on the wall at Mauthausen that gave me chills.
@@victorrain 100,000 thumbs up !
It was written after the war.... and he never was in a concentration camp.... it was confessional prose about he and others never spoke out against the Nazi party...
“For his opposition to the Nazis' state control of the churches, Niemöller was imprisoned in Sachsenhausen and Dachau concentration camps from 1938 to 1945. He narrowly escaped execution.”
From Wikipedia. He credited his time in the camps as the turning point in his life, away from his earlier antiemetic views.
@@MackerelSkyLtd I stand corrected on the concentration camps, but my main point earlier was that it wasn’t written on a concentration camp wall, it wasn’t written until after the war.
I didn’t realise he was anti Semitic and an Hitler supporter, poetic justice how that came back to bite him in the ass.
Strange that the holocaust museum has a poem written by an antisemite.......
But the strangest thing of all is Christians who are anti Semitic, Jesus was Jewish, he never claimed or was anything other than Jewish.
And all the religious wars between Christians, Muslims and Jews, when they all worship the same god that Abraham did....
Dr. Martin Niemöller is the guy who said it.
Thanks, that should speed my research up.
real mvp
"They Thought They Were Free" is the book.
Not Doctor Niemöller but Pastor Martin Niemöller, a Lutheran cleric and theologian.
Here is a quote by a certain A. Hitler:"I was born a catholic and I will die a catholic." In his book Mein Kampf he also mentions over a hundred times that he is doing 'the Lord's work'. His anti-semitism was based on Passion plays which were popular in Austria and Bavaria. Later they were turned into a movie by Mel Gibson. Not long after the pope officially apologized for them as they were devised purely to stoke anti-semitism.
Yes. And if you look up his original version there are no communists mentioned. Socialists are definitely there.
The problem is that many governments put things in their names like socialist or democratic when they are no such thing. It is done IMHO to deliberately obscure what they really are. Plutarchies, autocracies, dictatorships and oligarchies aren't going to call themselves that because they want to seem more benevolent than those truthful labels would indicate.
One day everyone will be using George Orwell to justify their silly political beliefs -George Orwell
you must think he's making fun of conspiracy theories. Just because he is saying silly political beliefs, doesn't mean he isn't talking about the politicians.
You yourself just used Orwell lto justify your own silly beliefs also lol
Do you know where Orwell probably got that?
Another quote that goes " Necessity is the plea for every infringement, it is the argument of tyrants and the creed of slaves"- William pitt the younger
Maybe not but that's what comes to mind as a reference to your quote from Orwell.
Not being a dick either, just don't think that quote has enough context.
It's all perspectives anyway lol
@@aeAble I wouldn't be in any club that would have me.~ Groucho Marxism
@@aeAble not just perspectives, but historical documented facts can be found on topics like is Hitler a Socialist?
A great German youtuber went deep dive with multiple historian sources why Hitler wasn't a Socialist. One of the best video essay and journalism I've seen on CZcams period. He tackles all the myths from Steven Crowder and debunks that Hitler was a Socialist point by point.
His name is *Three Arrows*
_Was Hitler a Socialist - A Response to Steven Crowder and others_
czcams.com/video/hUFvG4RpwJI/video.html
The poem Beau quoted is from prose written by German Lutheran pastor Martin Niemöller in 1946. It is certainly not by George Orwell. The ignorance on display here is breathtaking.
I am 100% sure that is not a real quote from George Orwell. However I see your point. But you can only use George Orwell to justify any silly political belief to those that has never read any of his books themselves and/or know who he really was.
George Orwell was a social-democrat that really hated communism. I don't think many Americans know this but in Europe social-democrats has always been the group that has hated communism more then everyone else, even more then conservatives in the US did during the cold war.
Don't tell them that the Pittsburgh Penguins aren't actually penguins, it will blow their mind.
Then tell them the Democratic People's Republic of Korea isn't democratic or a republic.
Their not real penguins?
As a Canadian I have to click a thumb up for every comment with a reference on hockey.
Booom!😆
@@mireillelebeau2513 That's a Texas size 10-4.
"Never be afraid to mislabel a product." Ferengi rules of acquisition #239
The GOP is a business dressed up as a political party.
Omg this could have been the video too
@@brentwalker3300 A corrupt criminal group is their business model, it seems!!
To be fair the come up with the name before Hitler (who at one point was part of socialist government bureaucracy) joined. Hitler never changed the name after he changed the party's direction.
@WorldFlex lol
Not much of a student of history are you.
Might want to see who the Nazis killed to seize power.
Who the opposed politically.
Who they threw into prison camps BEFORE the Jews.
But sure go with a label.
Three Arrows has an excellent video titled "Was Hitler a Socialist?" on this subject debunking a lot of the far-right talking points on this subject if anyone is looking for some longer-form content on this issue.
I had the same idea as you. This was my post
Here you go guys. A great German youtuber went deep dive with sources why Hitler wasn't a Socialist.
One of the best video essay and journalism I've seen on CZcams period. He tackles all the myths from Steven Crowder and debunks that Hitler was a Socialist
His name is *Three Arrows*
_Was Hitler a Socialist - A Response to Steven Crowder and others_
czcams.com/video/hUFvG4RpwJI/video.html
Maybe he should do a follow-up video "Do Modern Conservatives Share Ideological Views with Hitler?"
@@dragonslayerslayerdragon5077 3 arrows has done a vid on modern conservatives it was on Jorden Peterson and how he Doesn't Understand Nazism. All the gifters say Hitler was a socialist and not a rotten scum fascist.
czcams.com/video/b8AcmzqFdPM/video.html
the Vid if anyone wants to check it out ^^^^
@@Ebrahim_17 ya that's another good one. Three Arrows has incredible content. The fact he reads like 4-5 800 pages book to write one video, so he can be sure to be objective is insane.
@@Ebrahim_17 Yeah, I hear yah. I've already subscribed to 3 arrows to check out his work later. There's another guy that does civil war history Atun Shei** or something like that. Also a good watch (or listen).
"Those who cannot remember the past are condemned to repeat it." - George Santayana
"Those who fail history are condemned to repeat it."-My history teacher.
And those that do know history are doomed to watch history repeat itself.
Those that do not learn from history are doomed to repeat it.
-Winston Churchill
Variation of the original quote accredited to George Santayana.
@@therealivydawg you voted crime bills biden whos doing nothing for poc
“In a time of deceit telling the truth is a revolutionary act.”
― George Orwell
"In a time of universal deceit telling the truth is a revolutionary act"
Telling the truth nowadays, is a myth, there's always a motive behind these "facts"..
I am a Canadian. I'm proud of it but I'm not loud about it. Pretty much that's who we are. I'm a descendant of Lincoln and proud of that too. It draws my interest in regards to your country's sad times. However, I am a socialist. For that I am so grateful. All this means is that some smart people that work for us as government accept small contributions from each of us and in turn maximize our collective buying power so that our disabled are cared for, our poor are fed then educated, our old know there will always be somewhere to end their days. We all know that wherever we are in our country incredible health care is open to all. yes, sometimes there are waiting times but they are not unreasonable (i suggest you compare our cancer treatment or maternal morbidity to the US). This though, is all available to everyone regardless of past contribution amounts. As a result we live with a sense of confidence and peace that not only we, but our friends , families and all others across this vast land will have excellent opportunities to flourish. And try putting that all together in a country that thrives at -20-30 degrees for 6 months every year.
We love free enterprise but there is no way our quality of life could be afforded paying the profit margins you do for these services in the US. Sure we have a small percentage that grind the system. However, so do you as well but you all share the compensatory price increases in your user pay system (even if insured).
Our socialist life places us consistently in the first or at least the top five rankings of world quality of life.
I love the US and my friends and family there but, I am so very comfortable here!
You can make this answer even easier by simply comparing it to existing country names. Democratic People's Republic of Korea. we usually refer to this place as NORTH KOREA
North Korea is NOT Democratic, and it's certainly not a Republic either. In fact, it's hard to find a place more the exact OPPOSITE of those things.
So, people use words and people often use words incorrectly. It's not a surprise and there's nothing political or ideological about it.
These are the same people who get confused by there, their, and they're
Yes, a bunch of loosers and your correct, you must be a well red person to sea this for what it's. Take my advise and re-sign yourself that some are bearly able to brake they're bad habits.
@@mainely8007 Neice!
As a German subscriber I was very curious how you'd manage this.
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Man City is winning. 😅
@P-J Proudhon so how did he do?
I thought he would talk about the GDR or the 1918 revolution.
🤔I'm curious how YOU would answer the question, or explain socialism to a alien from space. (Sounds like school homework for an essay. No burden; just a quickie, please. Wondering about your frame of reference is all. 🤷♀️)
This is exactly (literally) how I answer that question in that scenario. You should've called me, lol. 🤣
"...so, if they're *socialists* why did they first come for the Socialists?!!!"
The socialists came for the socialists?
No really, who came for whom?
@@reallyaznokidding The xenophobic conservatives came for the socialists and called themselves socialists.
**Sorry about your finger there but your violin is impressive. Well done.
@@reallyaznokidding just because they called them self socialist, doesn't mean they were socialist. You have to look at the actions they took and it was far right wing capatalist.
The answer I usually see is that "socialists hate competition so they killed other socialists".
Which makes no sense in this case. So the Nazis are socialists, but they came to power by allying with big business (Freundeskreis der Wirtschaft), and hyper-conservative parties like the DNVP (which was so reactionary that they literally wanted to bring back the kaiser) and then wiped out the socialists? Yeah, that jives.
@@Yashiro-nene_dies they put solialist into the name since socialists were popular. Kind of false flag operation. They were as socialist as the GDR was democratic.
Far left: The Nutsis were far right
Center left: The Nutsis were far right
Center: The Nutsis were far right
Far right: The Nutsis were far right
Center rightt: "Nooo they were socialists!!! They had 'socialism' in their name"
Actually, the far right say they were socialist, I think I had the Not See argument with a Groyper.
"We're not fascist, that's left-wing!"
The "socialists" or the guys that used socialist in their name while being fascist... literally the first use of doublespeak in that regime...
An example:
There is a species of Bird called a Titmouse. It is not a mouse, nor a mammal at all, and lacks mammaries.
Understand that the old word 'tit' does not mean what you think it does.
Nor does mouse.
Another example : there is a dish called "halver Hahn/half-a-cock" wich is in fact a cheese sandwich. In Cologne.
AHHH!! I hear this all the time where I live, too. Just because you call yourself something doesn’t make it so. I could call myself the Last Son of Krypton, but I still can’t fly.
I agree.
It's for this same reason why I don't consider so called "socialist/Communist" countries like the USSR, China, North Korea, Vietnam, etc. as actual socialist countries but rather, just authoritarian state capitalist countries who only use the socialist/Communist aesthetic. A country can claim itself as being socialist but if it's actions don't reflect their claims, then they're not actually what they say they are.
Dude... you can still fly, you may have a bit of trouble in the landing though.
@@ajiththomas2465 is there any country we can observe that IS a socialist country? Genuine question. All the examples usually given by folks on the right are examples of countries that began implementing "socialism" but ended up becoming authoritarian dictatorships. Sure would be nice to have an actual country to point to as an example of success.
@@RustyStator socialism comes on a spectrum. Countries that have implemented socialist policies? Look at the Scandinavian countries, they've had socialist policies for generations and are far from authoritarian.
@@esthermclauchlan3146 well obviously. Hell, we have socialist programs in the US as well. Almost all major developed countries do, and they work very well. I'm talking about a full blown socialist country.
When arguing in favor of socialism, all anyone has to do is point to the fact that full blown socialist systems have never worked, and usually end under terrible circumstances. How do we counter this argument?
Damn. Short. Sweet. To the point. Impressive.
When I heard the parameters; no politics, no ideology, no history, I thought, surely, not even Beau can pull this off. But, he did it again.
Ha ha Ha ha. He has a nack for doing just that. One of the many reasons I'm addicted to this channel.
Help me, Beau! Ever since I learned what DPRK stands for, I'm afraid of democracies!
Look into therm.
Far more democratic than the USA.
@@antediluvianatheist5262 Well, at least more HONEST about their lack of democracy.
You should be afraid of countries "bringing democracy" to your country.
and people
Democracy sux-socrates
I would have just asked if he thinks the democratic people's republic of North Korea is democratic
The ignorance in this country brings me to tears
Oh boy, the "It has sOCiaLisM in the name" people are at it again, or at least need to be addressed.
Last time I was this early I disappointed my wife.
I'm glad you addressed this. It's such a tired and hollow argument.
It's okay, I came along after.
¯\_(ツ)_/¯
Thanks for the chuckle.
Beau addressed premature ejacu... ohh... never mind. I Misunderstood.
@@Erin-Thor lool
I underwhelm women at every turn.
Me, a German, starts singing the "Einheitsfrontlied"... :D
Oh- ohhhhh... You were talking about the fake socialists. :(
* sadly packs the red flag away again *
i gotta remember to respond with that poem next time someone says Hitler was a socialist.
There is a children’s book titled “Terrible Things” that follows the same cadence of the poem but with different animals. It has an interesting bit of commentary because there were some complaints about each group (the birds were loud anyway or the fish weren’t friendly). It ends with the realization that had they worked together sooner they might have been able to stop it.
My mom is an elementary school teacher and I'll definitely tell her about that book.
This is from Martin Niemöller. He was a German pastor. That was his.
I saw a video on Old TV Time with an example of that poem. How Hitler divided people.
It's a selfless concept that doesn't concern itself with brand, doing right for the proper reasons with nothing to gain. Having good character.
It wasn't the "zi" part that was the problem; it was the "na".
wait aren't both of those syllables in the word based on the word for "nationalist"?
@@AlexKnauth No. The original name was "NA_tional-so_ZI_alistische Partei Deutschland", translated "national-socialistic based party of Germany". Until today, people (especially pupils 😉) call their social curriculum* "Sozi" , similar as Mathematics is simply called "maths" or Biology "Bio". The party name wanted to highlight their concern for the "suffering" German population, due to the reparations they had to pay for after WW1 🙄. As the whole name was a mouthful and "NSPDler" didn't seem to sound right, it was shortened to "Nazi", when spoken about the people in the party.
I hope this is helpful.
Be well - Europe🌷 (a Dutch, married to an Italian, living in Germany 🤗)
* The curriculum contents almost everything around politics, starting with critical thinking over to opinions, the multitude of parties, voting rights & plights etc.
@@HuberHans Sorry Hubert, but this is a little far fetched. Because the 'Nazi' is simple a shortened nationalist because that is the way this word is spoken in German: The 't' alters to a 'z': 'nazionalist'. There is no need to look into the later letters in the word. Same as You explained with biologie: it is shortened as 'Bio' , not somethind like 'Bilo'.
It's NSDAP, Nationalsozialistische Deutsche Arbeiterpartei.
Everything put in - twice.
@@kronsild Sorry, but you just ducked under his point so you could pretend otherwise. He even put it in his first sentence, but you still didn't want to read it. You had an answer you liked, and you stuck with it no matter the facts.
Exactly. I always use The People’s Republic of North Korea as an example of how self-applied political labels are often misleading. I find it especially appropriate these days, since so many on the right are adamant that the US is a republic & that “democracy” is an unacceptable term for our form of government.
The Heritage Society appears to be pushing that Orwellian propaganda about us being a republic, not a democracy.
If you look up what republic means, the word translates to "rule by the people." Res publica. And that almost always means a representative democracy.
...But I guess they don't look up words.🤦
noticed socialism sux so bad u need men with guns to enforce it
@@juandoe985
Um... what do you think the police do? They enforce capitalism with guns. This is an authoritarian country, we just are trained not to see it.
@@grmpEqweer capitalism is enforced by police it is voluntary
@@elsikpych
It isn't voluntary.
I've used that poem to convey the same thing to co-workers without getting political. Pure gold!!
THANK you!! I am so sick of explaining this to people.
Absolutely genius how you express any topic with clear intelligent understanding of the subject and still able to do so without turning away those who may have a different view of the subject from lack of knowledge
Good one, Beau! Many Americans are shamefully ignorant of history... :-(
Beau included he forget the racism of the democrats last election and under Clinton and obama
And East Germany under Soviet rule called it's self the German Democratic Republic..
At least it did have some socialist aspects. But yeah, it also had a lot of issues. :(
We could have been so awesome! The people who were protesting in '89 - at least the ones who were at the protests before they were cool - wanted to reform the GDR, wanted to democratize it.
And then capitalism took over and levelled the East German industry.
We still haven't recovered from that.
@Beau of the Fifth Column • OMG. I bow to your ability to do do such a concise, clear explanation. 🏆👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻👏🏻
Night of the long knives. Anyone who can say they were socialists after that is just being contrary.
I asked this about a year ago in a much less eloquent way - super glad for this! I have this discussion to this day and this is perfect.
So the real question is "How do I educate my friend who doesn't know anything and is not really interested in learning anything?"
Easier to get a new friend than try and enlighten a rock.
@@Moamanly true that my whitebbernie bro friend said identify know bernie though I checked his votes and experienced police brutality
I like a guy with 10,000 T shirts and one hat. They seem to make sense.
Good summation. That guy with 1 hat & a tee shirt for every occasion does a lot of research & makes a hell of a lot of sense ! My go to for understanding a situation I'm unclear on.
Mine too Tom! The tee shirts must have a shed of their own 😂.
And Mr. TripFantastic, it's one helluva hat though, right? 😘
2 hats. He pulls out the spy/spook hat out once in a great while.....including a week ago. Ignore this comment.
@@cherylalt101 sure is baby girl, and i like what he keeps under it.
@@msmjserene I thought he just switched the patch, it's velcro attached.
I am a German living in Hamburg. Watching Beau daily since a Year. This episode really cracked me up :D
I gave my longtime friend, (who also happens to be Republican), an excellent book by Dr. Seuss. It's called "The Butter Battle", and is an excellent lesson in opposing ideologies and the struggle of coming together.
Give him The Sneeches to help him understand class struggle next lol
Just for some added context a quick link to the wiki article. en.wikipedia.org/wiki/First_they_came_... It even talks about the origin of the poem, the person that sparked it, and his quoted confession.
Thanks for sharing that. The "Origin" section is especially interesting.
Everybody should read the whole article. The poem itself is just a recap of what happened during the rise of fascism in germany.
Western Europe. My Norwegian Daughter is on her third year of free business school no debts. Alone with the free health care. I'll try to stay fit so I can retire there.
I wish I had a Norwegian daughter. I'd have "broke camp" five years ago...
@@tonyjones1560 lol anything is possible Mr. Jones. I dreamed about going to those places as a kid and I did. I am need here to fight the good fight in America. I have lived in Norway so I know the quality of living is a lot higher and better. Norway is always ranked in the top five. Yeah Sweden is more freer socially an open. Most of the Western European countries I have been to feel like I was just at home. It's been other States in America I lived in and didn't feel welcome. When I lived in Troy Ohio some people did get out the car at the gas station when I was there. I'm as Carlton Banks as they come lol. Got stop in western states for doing things I would normally do in my hometown. Lol be good brother
Use the line from the movie The Cabin: "Entirely separate thing. It's like the difference between an elephant and an elephant seal."
I know the movie you are referring to, though where I am, it is called Cabin in the Woods.
It's like adding _Natural_ to everything in marketing, gives you a mental image but there's no rule that says what it has to actually be.
Cyanide is perfectly natural.
Not necessarily good though.
@@antediluvianatheist5262 Just as I cracked open my ~all natural~ pack of bitter almonds ;_;
It's like "Green" in facilities management or commercial cleaning...but there's such a thing as "greenwashing" products to market them as "environmentally friendly" when they're not.
I'm going to keep this in my back pocket.
I prefer scoffing at people who say this because it tends to be parroted from sources who really don't have the best of intentions. I typically say that the person gets confused by both buffalo wings and titmouses.
The power of poetry😉. There is a reason the term "bard" still exists.✌
People who decry "Socialism!" usually have no idea what the word really means or what a socialist society entails. It's usually a fairly good indication of their level of comprehension and their Fox News viewership.
I always hear people calling biden and harris socialists. Then I ask them whats wrong with Nordic europe socialism and they say its not real socialism. So where is this threat of socialism in America? They cant have it both ways. Drives me nuts.
@@jeil5676 Those are social democracies, not socialist countries. We are to a much more limited extent. Wonder why those Nordic countries are the perennial champs of the best and happiest countries on Earth? We should give it a try sometime.
@@Sailor-Dave I've seen the excuse of people saying that the Nordic countries have a much smaller population that that of the US and that they are more of a homogeneous country.
@@vanivari359 Oh yeah, I would move to a Nordic country if I could. I would miss the warm weather though but not the hot weather. A rainy weather actually makes me happy, I even like the smell of rain.
I can also see the US having a revolution, I believe we're too divided to transition to something better in a democratic way. I don't see corrupt politicians wanting to lose the thousands-milions they get from their donors.
@@capitaldeecolon4819 That is certainly true, and I'm sure it makes a significant difference. A much smaller country (geographically) with a much smaller and homogeneous population would seem to make the job easier, but they also have a consequently smaller tax base. And yet they do it. One giant difference is our lack of homogeneous population, since there is a large segment of Americans that would happily shoot themselves in the foot if it would prevent "those people" from rising above "their place", as they see it. As long as such self-destructive attitudes prevail, we will never be able to rise to the Nordic level of happiness.
I'm fairly certain that quote is from Lutheran priest Martin Niemöller. I've had this conversation with that kind of people and in many cases him being a priest was, somehow, what made my argument valid.
At this point in my life, and with the rise of various authoritarian leaders around the world, I'd take any victory I can get. If it's finding quotes by sane and kind priests, I'll do it.
There's just too many problems facing the world right now that the faster we can get people going in the same direction, the better. Climate change is barely slowing down, for one.
Ok now explain Republicans with using only
"Interpretive dance".
🤣🤣🤣
That dance would involve shooting one's foot off, and banging their head on the wall until blood runs from their ears. 😜🤷🤦
'drops pants and pisses on the poorest person'
@@AudiblePhysicsProductions That’s a hell of a dance move!
@@LazyIRanch you never disappoint !
Great video, thank you Beau of the fifth column! In America many people fear socialism without having even a basic understanding of what it is.
My absolute favourite piece of poetry...it always hits home, our responsibility towards society, is always ends up helping ourselves.
I suppose it would upset at least some of our far right friends to know that our original Pledge of Allegiance was written by a socialist minister, Francis Julian Bellamy in 1892. Just a thought.
👋🏾Add: That question is a non starter imho. If you don’t want to learn history or politics but ask a historically political question, you are Fox ‘news’. And I am being very kind here, folks. However, Beau being Beau handled it splendidly. 💐👍🏾
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@@drawingdraws618 🙏🏾🙂
@@briansmutti 🙏🏾🙂
My thoughts too...Beau's truly a gift. 💞
THANKS! I just joined the national remembrance in my country, the Netherlands. This is the evening in which we remember all people who died or suffered in WW2 and later wars. The systematic killing of jews, gypsies, homosexuals, handicapped and others always is an I.portant part in this remembrance. Your reciting this poem and the reason for it fitted perfectly.
Tomorrow we will celebrate liberty, thanks to a lot of Americans and others for which I'm still deeply grateful!
The question that needs to be asked is "who are they?" Anyone who feels the need to dominate. Anyone who has an "other" that needs to be controlled or subjugated.
I wondered how you would pull this one off but I knew you'd manage to do it.
The answer is simple tbh- people call themselves stuff they aren't all the time.
This tickled the crap out of me, because this is my go to starting point when people bring up the Nazi=socialist angle.
People do not understand the differences between socialist and social programs.
I actually referred to this poem yesterday and the guy still insisted that they were socialists, and he brought up a quote from the *cough* leader about how they were all totally socialist and therefore "proved" that they were socialists..
I tend to be suspicious of people who quote Hitler and take his words at face value.
👍 Another one. "You should not with such ease tolerate the injustice that doesn't fall upon yourself". The first thing he did was to purge out opposition and to ally himself with big capital. In short the whole thing was a big lie. Sounds familiar?
"Anyway, it's just a thought"
...a pretty damn good thought IMO.
Thank you! I have some coworkers that keep saying that the Nazi's were socialists. They live at this level of conversation.
yall dont wanna own slavery either
46 people beat me here! Great job folks.
I only came in 2nd, once... 😆 lol
Put it this way you're among the top 100
My favorite bit of irony is that a huge portion of these people will take Nazis at their word when they identify as socialist, but refuse to take trans people at their word when they identify as their given gender. Then, all of a sudden, they're all about what the "proper definition" of a label is.
No offense, but political identity and gender identity really aren’t the same thing. A proper definition is def needed here so people don’t confuse very different issues of social awareness vs biological response.
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Gender isn't the same as sex.
Gender identification is how that particular person wants to be seen as, what they feel they are. It is fluid.
Even if a person's outward appearance says XY (male) or XX (female), there are at least two other sex linked combinations that manifest as one or the other.
@@elenavaccaro339Wether you identify as a crow with giant balls, or a mouse with intellect of Einstein, it’s irrelevant. And a mental issue that science hasn’t clearly linked to a natural biological response. For all we know, it’s gamma rays hitting you in the infant stages changing your mental make up. We simply don’t know. Thus why the context is so important, as with the definitions.
But comparing that to the ideology of a political party who already denied science? I dunno bout that.
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Actually there is science behind gender identity.
The field of psychology has made great progress in that area since the outdated concept of 'being gay' was considered a psychological condition and patriarchal attitudes were removed.
And since you are on a page that encourages research, I suggest you do a Google Scholar search.
Go to Google, type in Scholar. Takes you to an area that has peer reviewed papers.
Oh, I am and have been an ally for decades.
Infinite Diversity, Infinite Combinations.
@@elenavaccaro339 if you’d be so kind as to give me a good link to read an article describing exactly in detail what you’re talking about.
I use google scholar from time to time, and did as you asked, but digging through all that to find your argument would take more time then I’d like to commit, so can you help?
I'd love to see the rest of the shirt. The font of the phrase, "Poetic Justice" looks alot like the lettering used for the film of the same name, starring Janet Jackson and Tupac Shakur.
cause it is....
@@TehMomo_ lol. Fair enough. I'd like to more clearly see the new image, along with the font, since it obviously doesn't reference the movie.
Love that poem and love your work
Hurrah! Truth smells so beautiful!
Animal Farm and 1984 are must reads for everyone.
You are such an entertaining young bloke, Beau. Keep up the good work. You restore my faith in Americans.
Peter Longerich's excellent biography of Hitler has several detailed discussions of how "Socialist" ended up in the Nazi Party name, and how Hitler repeatedly pushed back all efforts to move the Nazi Party into anything approaching a socialist direction.
Stabbed away, even
Just to give credit where it is due; the saying came from Pastor Martin Niemöller, who spent 7 years in a NAZI concentration camp. Adds a little more power to the argument.
Brilliant response. I've tried arguing this point using history, politics and ideology and it ended with nothing but frustration.
As if these people cared about any of that, once it is clear they decided to not change their mind it is useless to try to reason with them.
Maybe because you have nothing than superficial reasons.
@@christopherdunstan1708 And what might they be?
@@jimlambrick3248 well if you thought this anarco tactical larper was "Brillant". When he made a fallacy: You can't call yourself a socialist if you go after socialists. Yeah with that logic Stalin and whatever other socialist that killed their way to the the top aren't socialists. Lets also forget commies wanted to go after Tito. Also the Rhodisian Bush War. The list goes on.
@@christopherdunstan1708 Mmm, well maybe but Communism isn't Socialism. It's the irrational fear of Socialism that keeps Americans as working class slaves vs every other first world country.
Three Arrows did this years ago, watch it when done with Beau :)
"Was Hitler a Socialist? - A Response to Steven Crowder and Others"
The Democratic People's Republic of Korea
Them: "SOCIALISM!"
Inigo Montoya: You keep using this word. I do not think it means what you think it means.
explain what it is
Back in the early 80s, I recall being sat down in front of the tv each week by my parents to watch the 1973 documentary "The World at War" - en.wikipedia.org/wiki/The_World_at_War
The series begins with "Episode1:A New Germany (1933-1939)" and includes some info about the political pressure blocks that were in play and the part about coming for the socialists amongst others. The series as a whole is narrated by Laurence Olivier and includes video interview segments from some who were there during that time, such as Hitler's personal secretary Traudl Junge, Reich Minister Albert Speer, and many others. I bought the dvd box set when it was released years ago, and yes I made the next gen watch all of it too.
A scene has always stayed with me since I first watched Episode 1 all those years ago - the scene discussing the 19th century warning from Heinrich Heine as his writings fueled the fire, writings which included "where they burns books, in the end they will also burn human beings"
Thanks for all you do, Beau.
A friend of mine from the US tried to defend Trumps wall with "didn't you germans build a wall too?".. wish I could have seen his face when I said "Yeah, the communists build one to restrict people."
I've used that exact poem before too. It works well
People use these terms so often and don't know what they mean...Hitler didn't even like Mussolini's "style" of Fascism. Thank you for this.
But still Hitler was a fascist and the people who fought him called him and his nazi followers fascist! WW2 was right wing against the left wing, and the right wing lost!
@@kellyburket6955 I would not call Winston Churchil left-wing.
Before 1938, many right-wing politicians had some sympathy for Hitler and Mussolini, because they suppressed those nasty lefties.
@@kellyburket6955 fascism is when trade unions control production. Hitler was against trade unions, so he was no fascist. Him being called one by his enemies is another thing
@@kellyburket6955 people like you never read a book
@@Michiel_Bouma socialist hate unions like bernie who wants to end my union benefits for m4a
Excellent, as always -- thank you. The poem was written by Lutheran Pastor Martin Niemoller after WWII. His wikipedia has the quick scoop.
Always nice when a good example of a point is there in front of you.
Hi Beau, I thought I would add my comments, the piece of poetry you mentioned was a quote by Martin Niemoller (a Lutheran pastor) whop was an outspoken critic of the Nazi party. However one thing that you might also consider is that the Night of the Long Knives was the Nazis successful campaign to get rid of the Socialists from their ranks. This meant that the Nazis were now a right wing nationalist party although they still used the name National Socialist party.
I get these questions often and I thought people asked me this just to mess with me, you know put me in a position where I can't use any tools to find an answer, found out around 5 months that they were being serious. I try to think of it like "drink a beer without touching it" challenge.
Ah, that poem. It's really quite interesting. Not originally a poem, but something that person said aloud in many conversations, speeches, sermons etc. Especially interesting is which group of people the "official" version doesn't include. Even though the author did include them in many occasions.
Sources?
Google Dr. MARTIN NIEMÖLLER or niemoeller, if you can't write the ö.
@hognoxious To give you a "quick and dirty" answer: It speaks of Communists, Socialists, Union people and Jews.
So, a lot of Minorities are missing in the original. But following the spirit of the poem, you could include them.
as an austrian-german i say: you are right!
The Democratic Republic of the Congo is a democracy where everyone is a Republican. It's right there in the name.
Good example Beau
Hitler even said that he picked the name socialist to appeal to working class Germans. The Nazis were as socialist as the N. Koreans are democratic.
actually he was very much like bernie in policy and picked the name because those were the people who shared his ideology
@@juandoe985 How was Hitler like Bernie in policy, seriously? Are you in North Korea?
Yes! Thank you!
In Australia our Conservative Party is called the Liberal Party. Names mean very little, it's actions that count.