CRL Hearings | Allegations against the leader of the Rivers of Living Waters Church, Stephen Zondo
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- čas přidán 10. 11. 2020
- The CRL Commission has heard harrowing allegations against the leader of the Rivers of Living Waters Church, Archbishop Stephen Zondo.
A number of former members of his congregation in Gauteng have approached the CRL with numerous grievances.
The CRL is currently holding hearings on the accusations.
Let us now link to the commission hearings.
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There are a lot of churches to be exposed in SA...I don't do church anymore, I pray @ home
My self too
This guy after getting chucked out of church it’s easy to see that he mobilized his faction of insubordinate members to support his rebellion against spiritual authority. Church is not a place of politics.
Me too. I have told "I am done with ginger to church, I will pray at home"
Absolutely yes
You saved souls Pastor Mali. You are a saving agent in Christ. May the Lord abundantly bless you for the courage you had.
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Aiiii the dead won't tell us any future!! "For the living know that they will die, but the dead know nothing; they have no further reward, and even their name is forgotten" ( Ecclesiastes 9:5)
Morena, thou art playing.
Spirit of the dead is capable ....
U have not seen life as yet, I submit.
@@phokoanephasha229 I stick with what the Bible says
Is the Bible not about dead people? 🤔
@@ledwabakayg7369
Valerio ga a kwishishe selo ka Bebele
@@valeriomanzini9165
Bible speaks of the eternity, which is attained by the dead.
I just hope this will wake people up.
wake them up to what?
Those people that are in the court room they don't understand the spiritual thing, and I believe you when you talk about the doctors and also the nurses
When u talk Medicine to a pure layman and expect the layman to intervene in a field that is completely strange to them....that is what the CRL is to this deeply spiritual matter...does the CRL have the spiritual insight and expertise to intervene in these issues???
Church is now my house l worship, read my Bible and l preach by myself.
If this was 1845 in Salem where the courts were governed by religious laws and ideologies this evidence would be concrete.
Origins of laws
The commission should have a properly structured hearings in line with their mandate, deal with issues of abuse and exploitations instead of becoming a gossip sessions about this people and their Bishop Zondo....otherwise the commission run the risk of losing it's credibility. They were adults when they fallen for this Zondo shenanigans and they should not be using public resources to deal with their foolishness.
I cant believe that such is submitted as evidence...I also ask myself why are these leaders taking up this position now. What isn't that they did while in agreement with their leader?
@ Kgolane Ramatsetse, well spot on, you took the word right out of my mouth. It will be hard for any state organ or body to persecute him based on the testimony given. People should say at such date he did such and such.
The way it goes zondo will get away scot free. This has not been structurally organized.
There are people who have opened rape cases and have evidence. Hope Justice is gonna be done
@@Kingmholi With my understanding, most of the political leaders get their power from such entities. It is rather for them to turn against one of their own. He might get a slap on the wrist and asked to disappear from a public eye.
Its sickening, shocking to hear all this spiritual fallacy, young people do not have role models in the midst of these nonsense, government must intervene there are no short cut in life,
Unfortunately same government is sponsored morally by these evils.
This made my year🤣🤣🤣, I salute Moruti Mali
There won't be solid evidance and earthly judgment on things that happen in spiritual realms. So this guys must stop with realms and focus on solid evidence.
When will demons come to give evidence? this commission is foolish to listen to peoples hallucinations. Only follow tangible evidence and deal with perpetrators.
Exactly...!
Absolutely nothing can be considered evidence here, coz at times wat he accuse the other of is the same thing he also do in reverse form!
Only if this Commission was lead by by people who are filled with the Holy Spirit.....
Mina ngiyabonga wht CRL is doing im happy kunomsebenzi omuningi ekumele bawenze U CRL kuzolandela omboro bhushiri, lukau makamu bonke lododi wabafundisi thy must fall sikhathele no
Yes 👏🏽
This all sound like fairytale. Imagine this guy as your pastor talking all crap, demons and his crazy imaginations
So scary ! How can they use church to fulfil their desires !
Money making scheme, inter alia.
It doesn't start today, but it started 1000years BC. Rome
@@lehlohonolomokoena4050
Thwiiii.
It’s been like that for centuries
We want to hear from those demons, please summon them to the commission , otherwise arrest them for withholding information
Thwiiiiii 🤣🤣🤣
Demons be arrested and SA prison can keep them 😂😂😂😂😂
John 8:44
[44]You are of your father, the devil, and it is your will to practice the lusts and gratify the desires [which are characteristic] of your father. He was a murderer from the beginning and does not stand in the truth, because there is no truth in him. When he speaks a falsehood, he speaks what is natural to him, for he is a liar [himself] and the father of lies and of all that is false.
so if the devil doesn't have truth in him you think his demons does?
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I am wondering that for how long is Mr Mali knowing that arch bishop Zondo has been sexually harassing or forcing him self to wemama? Because he said on his statement, I didn't allowed my wife to meet Zondo because he will sleep with her. I think you have too much that you know.
Exactly!! So as long as it happens to other people besides his wife it's ok??
Plz SA. One you are the Sadc leader. Stop these politicians abusing their governments causing people to migrant to SA.
SA you are quiet, but look SA is destroyed by these migration people looking for green pastures.
Its economic and politics. SA you support rigging elections.
It's time now to open up and be straight forward. SA wakeup. You have time to protect your people. Your duty stop support countries abusing thier people.
People come here in South Africa to make money,and "we" South Africans allow this nonsens to take place.
Zondo is not southafrican?
our country is a play ground
The Bible says: 1 Timothy 6:10 For the love of money is root of all evil.
My people are destroyed for lack of knowledge. If ppl actually read their bibles, they prayed in private and fasted regularly there is no way they will be fooled by these pastors. Because the scriptures say we will know them by their fruits. Its so easy to see the fruits of these pastors. Expensive cars, suits, gadgets, beautiful women, money, etc these are things we must flee from.
2020 l salute you Covid19 yes, corruption yes, charlatans being exposed.... 🤗 🙈 I'm reading my Bible and praying by myself, I sing along Hillsong Music my heart will be filled with the Holy Spirit, l feel His Mighty upon me.... ❤️👏
This is a horror story, if you are weak you won't sleep at night.
Exchanging of whomb mxm gossip.
Relax, gossiper who told them that zondo is witch. Mxm
@Mothokoa Kgobe bra ke gossip.... 🤣 🤣 🤣 So boloyi bo nale di level..... The knowledge that people have about boloyi...... Is surprising us Christians 🤣🤣🤣(baheteni unite fc)
😃😃😄 o lekwala
@@PROPHETBLBALOYI he wanted to badmouth him
2020 was Lit 😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣😂🤣🤞
Sana
Pastor Mali you say you reversed the curse to his wife and she was operated, what does that make you? It puts you on the same level as that bishop. You as a pastor you are not supposed to curse anyone.
Thus really confusion in its fullness
For every curse or attack against you, you send it back to its owner. That's not cursing someone, that's sending it back where it came from in Jesus name. That prayer works for me and everything that has been stolen by the enemy be restored in Jesus name. That prayer also works for me.
You can't reverse the curse by curse but you can a true prayer as he did.
@@siyathembasiazmatshaya7074yes you can if you are enough being the devil's punching bag
We do hear you monna Mali but how are we going to proof what you're saying?
Simon what more proof do you want beyond this ☝️
The world is crumbling bcos of brainwashed people like u. Why do u have to need proof if sm1 tells the truth. Believe it Or not
@@princesizwe259 what he means is there is no valid, tangible scientific way of proofing this even if it is true. he is not saying it is a lie. Like the issue with the large bird why go there at 12 and not even 1 of the man there thought of taking a photo of the bird/bat. The man speaking has been unhappy about the other priests acts but why has he never bothered to keep tangible proof?
@@beutiful3238 We live in reality there's no need to prove things scientifically. We are not Western pple we don't come from scientific history, the Truth is the Truth end of the story. Y'all are living in a brainwashed Western mentality telling pple about scientific proof. That's nonsense, a spade is a spade that's all, no need for stupid proofs
@@princesizwe259 no man you are wrong the very governmnent that governs us wants proof before they validate your facts, nothing western about that, me and you believe Mali right but how will you validate these incidents in a court of law. Hence I said I don't believe @Simon Mosiane doesn't believe him just how do we proof it? Mind you I have the same challenges in life. I know things that people do not but should I speak people will play a duck and dive game at my expense bcs there's nothing tangible that they can pin my stories too.
So why are they all exposing each other now the powers are failing 😆😆😆
South Africa is Nigeria now
Not yet. If Nigeria was to start such a commission there would be an uproar, far worse than the Sars, entire country would stand still.
@@cerdericnkala1016 I agree, there's a problem with christianity.
They brought foreign spirits!
@@Nkalala be very careful what you say about Christianity.......
Not yet don't let Nigerians to rule our land
What a terrible witness 😂😂😂...if these allegations are true you are an accomplice....you are just as guilty...you were in charge of a branch perpetuating this supposed “false doctrine”🤷🏿♂️...these people should be questioned doctrinally sound men
thats what im saying
Cry my beloved Country.
Churches are comedy Jesus should come and turn the tables again
Christianity is not for Africans. Jesus never existed
@@gracejaravaza8609 you are very sick
if your really a Christian..please repent from that statement
Very true we need that now more than ever
This guy is a joke, am surprised he is a pastor. You should have gone to Nigeria to receive your deliverance as the Archbishop suggested. You are so confused my brother.
I feel sorry for you. So one has to leave the country to seek spiritual deliverance? You masses are so hypnotized and your comment lets me know that you are one of the blind.
This story doesn't add up
Ao Bafana Steven Zondo Maar?
I know right?
Is this an interest in South Africa ,this makes South Africans a laughing stock. These people ba ne madlozi.
Agree with you dude, they are just doing what they are doing hiding with Bible
Ase madlozi.
Madlozi aint evil.
Ke boloi bja Bra Steve Zondo.
Sorry ganyani, ne onyakore madlozi or madimone? Ska buwafela.
@@elle_m5457 I thought matimone le madlozi is one and same thing in different
languages , in any case I am open for correction.
@@elle_m5457
Philemon and his allies are indoctrinated.
They were taught to believe that our dead parents or ancestors are demons.
Jesus himself met his ancestors when he was praying on the mountain.
Tumelo ya sekgowa destructed everything.
He reversed it by prayer and the question he used which Power to attack back ?
Spirit issues are difficult and you can't prove it
The bird story 😂😂😂😂😂😂
It is clear you guys don't love the Bishop cz I listen to all of you ...your stories don't add up ....
They aren't brainwashed and initiated into this occult like you have been.
U c dis church thing ai Nono, let me pray in my one room
Thwiii.
Ke boloi feela, moooo!!
That what I'm doing
This man is beyond redemption, there is no hope for him. He has just blasphemed the holy spirit.
He should just leave the congregation of he was given charge of and go and start his own.
The only ones who blasphemy against the holy spirit are the fake pastors themselves
Sin offering ?? Lord help us.
didn't he say sing offering?😅😅
@@papilephoto4901 niks gathwe sin offering
Biggest sin ever.
This is crazy but where is the evidence to prove all these allegations
he lying
This is complete bullcrap!!
This movie has no title in human form (not adding) in spirit (looks very serious)
Haaai this strange conspiracies
Mali Mali Mali u are confused urself and is very clear to people who understand spiritual matters that u are lead by hatred because u were dismissed for ur misconduct
Matthew 24-1:51
He said you mind is dead you don't know what your doing than he said you mind give information about your money and pin code eish something is wrong I think this thing is personal hadred.
I.saw that also
I think the problem is that the guy is struggling to express himself in English, he should have had an interpreter.
Zondo running a cult
What is a cult ka sesotho.
True
Yes he is buzy building de huge cult
@@PROPHETBLBALOYI boloi
This is personal
Not adding up
I agree with you
Yah something is wrong somewhere 🤔
Mali, the Bible says the dead people cannot tell us what will happen in the future because they know nothing.
True but they are familiar spirits, you see even the demons when Jesus cast them out of the men's life they ask.., have you come to destroy us before our time? It means demons know that they have limited time on earth
@@tlalerosie9437 lost more and more. The Bible says dead people tell no tales. They know nothing because their buried bodie and souls are rotten. Thanks
So when you left home 12am did you tell your wife you are going to kill a bird on the pulpit
So we are now listening to the speech of demons? kikiki
Oh! Mali. Your wife calls you baby?
Bonakele labantu!!!
False religion Babylon the great.
How dangerous sure to follow a leader who is a witchcraft. This is scary
This witness is a scoundrel, he lying through the teeth
What he is saying does not make sense. How can a pastor control the universe?
Jesus delivered us but you have to surrender yourself to him. It is not automatic, you have to surrender your will for his will.
what if jesus abuses you then?
I refuse to believe the chief....
Money making scheme
As for Zondo??? 😂😂😂
He sounds very clever mara boloi feeela!
Carapipapa fire 2020 my eyes have seen ears as Nigerian say anya m ahuwo ntim 🤣🤣
🤣🤣🤣🤣I like their pigin English
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@@hannahhans8380 🤣🤣🤣
Pls invite mokoto nd mabochobocho
Lol this is a joke ...facts only chief
I agree with you
Heei Mali is an angry man let him deal with his anger and solve his issues with Bishop Zondo, or he should have moved out of Rivers of Living Waters Church. His evidence is not adding up.
😀😀😀😀😀😀😅😅😅2020 I salut you
Daily Sun stuff
Using Demon's testimony for real? Read John 10:10
These false prophets are a joke 🤣😂🤣😂
Who is mali?
What Mali is takking about is all Spirituality.Many lisiners who lack the Holy Spirit will not believe all what he is saying.Me i believe him because i was a victim of such False Pastors in a certain church in Giyani _ Lipompo Province.
UThixo abenawe ne family yakho Pastor Mali
You looked proud when you said 'we took the offering' 🤔
I asked myself was it necessary to mention that 🤷
😆😆Yaz Wena
😂 😂
All offerings from small branches are sent to the "big branch" (I'm saying this as a person who attended there from primary till University and who knows EXACTLY what these pastors are talking about) so by took the offering, he means he allowed people to offer but he never keeps a cent, it all goes to Evaton. It's how his minor branches operate.
Wow SA,
Jesus was accused for being a chief of demons
But Jesus was never found guilty of any wrong doing and the Bible is clear why those pharisees and their followers conspired against him but these pastors are guilty of wrong doing and it's clear for all to see when u look at their actions.
Back to send 😂😂😂😂😂😂
August 2018 18 it's Saturday thou
He's not a calendar, does he have to recall the exact day? Kahle
Oh ok we here this and it's scary can you talk bout closing down the churches please!!!! save our ppl.you'll see no1 will be interested of going to SA
close down the churches because of the wolf in sheep skin that are being exposed?
I'm confused 🤔😂😂😂.
he lying
It is not those who cast out demons who are the problem it the nature your forefather Adam that is in you that is the problem. The serpent and Adam have a covenant.
Church its Whitcraft moss !!!
Thwiiiii
This is a witchcraft
this man is lying.
Nqabanga ukuthu u CRL unobufakazi obaneleyo manje its time to act zondo must go to jail bese balanda u lucow now pls
What where you doing in hi church in the first place and all this year's you where happy enjoying life now jealousy is busy with you neh,
This speaks lies
The problem is that wonderful seyvice...
🤭 hayibo lekelela Jehova
I don't believe this, where were you when Zondo was struggling in growing the ministry, your problem you guys lebatla ditilo mo kerekeng, le batla le go owner batlhanka ba modimo, you are bitter bcs you could not reach your agendas
That is you view, I don't reject it, but in late 90s Zondo,was preaching Bible gospel & he was in the white tent, and church was build,after 2000 he joined Nigerians things ,he start to exploit and self enrich ,
@@davidmoloi2280 exactly, o sentse ka nigeria
This testimony is a joke 😂😂. So Mali bewitches Zondo back by getting Zondo’s wife to be operated. This makes Mali a bigger witch than Zondo, only tht he’s not famous 😂😂😂
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😉😉😉😉😉
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Baningi lababitiwe bayincosana labakhethiwe
ai mara bo Mali, you cant even speak proper English and you out here saying things that don't even add up. If you were not ok with how he does things you should have left before he even tought you how to do all these spiritual things..
Mali gase lekgoa
You are stupid...
Osetlaela
Mali's language isn't English.
yoh!!!!!
Is not hypnotizing
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hayi this story of the gangsters lost me. kodwa... hayi was he there when the gangsters were beaten or not now? he was in the pulpit then again he wasnt there he was driving from somewhere...whats what? confusing
He’s trying by all means to make a case, in d process he entangles himself with lying. Truth never loses its focus. I think Mali is trying to analyze whatever him n d team were doing, using his natural mind. Now it’s hard to tell who’s right who’s wrong btn him n his bishop. He needs to go back to the basics of d Bible, that’s what will set him free.
@Gift Laughter I agree with you 💯! We need to sort out our relationship with Jesus Christ while we still have a chance. The road ahead is not promising any roses
Pastor Mali is trying to paint a picture from two dimensions/realms and is not easy to do. There is no court in this world that will make sense of his testimony.
@@pakalithanqephe6149 Very very true 😂😂😂
I think he's trying to make them understand what he went through
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