iFixit's PS VR2 Teardown- A $550 Compromise
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- čas přidán 6. 07. 2024
- Rejoice, ye Sony faithful, for the PS VR2 has arrived! And it looks like Sony did the hard work of tearing it down for us. PS VR2 is Sony’s second foray into the metaverse since the 2016 release of PS VR but the industry has come leaps and bounds since then. In a nutshell, t this VR headset is a balance between new and expensive, and old and affordable. What we’d really like to know is: what can we do to fix this $550 compromise if it breaks.
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Timestamps:
00:00 Intro
00:54 Disassembling the Headset
01:17 Quest 2 Vibes
01:55 Mainboards Compared
02:34 Meat and Potatoes
03:44 PS VR2 OLED Panels
04:25 IR Eye-tracking
04:44 Headband & Cushions
04:53 Brain Rumble Motors
05:09 Controller Disassembly
05:19 IR Tracking Ring
05:56 We Void Warranties
06:02 Controller Battery
06:12 Drift Prone Thumbsticks & Trigger
06:35 Outro
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Words cannot express how badly I want this to be compatible with PC and to have parts available for home repair. This is SUCH a good design in the world of headsets and knowing it's gonna be locked to a ps5 is disappointing but understandable from the business side of things.
I wouldn't nessesarily say it would be bad form a buisness standpoint to open this to PCs. Sony has now published several big Play Station Titles on the PC (on Steam) and the 550$ would also be a punch in the face for other manufacturers of such headsets aldougth it can be only used with a PC. But Gamers mostly use their VR Headsets with their PC because... PCs are Faster than every SOC in a portable device and can deliver stunning Experiences.
So TLDR: I think it would be a smart deseition from Sony to open up this to PC Gamers. Also they could blame Microsoft that they have nothing on their Console like this ;D
@SmokeKing out of everything this is the easiest problem to overcome with that.
@smokeking3449 You don't need direct storage to run a vr headset. Unless sony did something special with their headset it's just only communicating with your gpu rather than your storage.
Imagine the preorders they could get if we could just get it on steam. Imagine Sony trying to better their industry.
Maybe someone will hack it to work
This looks as easy to get into and repair yourself as the OLED Vita! So happy to see that that's the case. Sony really did great with this.
great comparison
The fact that you encountered no glue to get to the parts you'll have to replace eventually is really cool on their part.
Good video, I enjoy your presentation style and how you value the time of those who watch and get straight to the point.
I guess Sony took a page from former Nintendo engineer Gunpei Yokoi’s concept of “lateral thinking of withered technology”.
What does that mean?
@@yorgborg7899 I'm guessing find new ways to get the most out of older technology
@@Meltdownlv100 If that was true, they wouldn't be using analog sticks that can lead to stick drift.
Man , the ps5 , needs an HDMI pass trough like the XBOX Project Scorpio. To enjoy other stuff on the VR 2 , idk
The only old tech they're using is fresnel lenses (which is still the standard for cheap vr headsets btw), soo I'm pretty curious to understand what you mean with that quote lol
Lovely video but I think you missed a trick by skipping over the one part people care most about: replacing the cable.
regardless how you feel about Sony or their consoles. I'm happy to see this head set be modular enough so it can be fixed many years come.
Yeah sony always made their stuff fairly easly repairable, and im happy they don't make it harder for us
It's amazing what can be achieved when you actually try.
Loving my Vr2 , cant stop playing it
Brad is now a staple name in VR videos XD Love these teardowns!
wow. Really repairfriendly device. I had a faulty flex cable for the audio in my rift and had to buy a new rift because the repair was out of what is realistic to do for me.
What an extremely pleasant individual you are to listen to.
Is it hard to reinstall the rubber on the headband? I wanted to see if it's possible to add some cushioning behind the rubber on the front of the band... Because I have to tighten it pretty hard to keep the sweetspot in place and that causes headaches ☹️
Because it's just one rubber piece that's clicked into the plastic, I'm expecting it won't be very easy to place it back after removing it...
"I'm going to make this device super easy to fix, but you won't be able to because I won't sell you parts."
Is it possible to run the OLEDs outside the unit? That could look interesting
Thank you for your video. The tension wheel for the strap has seized up on me. Do you think by dismantling the wheel I could get it back on track? It's so strange that I used the release button to remove the head set but the wheel never reset and is locked. Any advice would be greatly appreciated.
Is the purpose of the fan to remove moisture and heat from the air in the headset while using it, or is it purely to blow air over the interior components?
We call it a $500 compromise, but it preforms better than an Index that costs 1k....still. If this thing worked on a PC, I'd get one to replace my Quest 2.
Quest 3 will be out in no time
Ikr, he's critisizing Fresnel lenses here but not on the valve index teardown even though that costs double and comes with lcd
@@shivamarya5225 pancake lenses weren't mass produced when the index came out, they just recently became a thing that manufacturers adapted
Don't get your hopes up when, the point of the VR is to sell the consoles and make devs make game on thier consoles for it. im 90% sure they are sell this headset at a loss just to make people buy the PS5
@@marcelmarcon971 what? Pancake lenses have been mass produced by for cameras since the 60s when Nikon started selling them. Where did you get that idea from?
Would it be possible to change the glass lenses with better ones that do not blur the image on the edges?!
Because right now, using these lenses you can only see clear in the middle of the screen.
That's the sweet spot.
was hoping for cost breakdown, does sound on target though shops take a 50$ cut or more.
Shel Silverstein breaking down and explaining the makeup of a VR headset? I’m in.
is there any way to move the lenses closer together than the closest setting? my eyes are closer together than average and i cant quite get my pupils perfectly in the middle of the lenses.
I wanna know if that main cable can be replaced?
Hi! Thanks for your video!! Just a little question: After a little hit with a chair, my right sense has the thumbstick that point left making it useless. I want to try to take a look inside before reach sony for repair, if i open it i break some warranty sigil or something? Sorry for the long comment! 😂 Thanks again!!
So you can replace the cable. Now where is it available??
Can you please further tear down the cable connector to see which company's chip is enabling the Active Cable single-cable design?
No. Lighthouse is not outside in tracking. It's marker based inside out tracking. It would be outside in tracking if the base stations have cameras like the PSVR1 or the Oculus Rift did it.
4:40 Is there any material similar to faux leather like the Pulse 3d pads that degrade over time and come off parts?
If you are willing to do some experiment with high probability of irreversible damage, can you try to remove filter film from top of the display panels and see how it looks like?
Gotta love when we compare a $1500 device with a $550 one
Hopefully this sets a new benchmark, absolutely amazing for the price wish PC had something this competitive
I'm very happy with the resolution and visual quality of my varjo aero
6:07 It last 4-5 hours. Not 3.
How you actually remove the rear cushion properly?
Where i can found a cable for change the Original? Mine cable is broken
What about the cable is that replaceable mines starting to come apart at the headset end
The old adage in the world of amateur astronomy when it comes to quality of optics ,“ you get what you pay for “, also applies to VR it seems.
this is another level of innovation.
Great video. I'm glad the cushions just pop off and on, I'm tempted to fill them with something cos they feel a bit less comfortable than PSVR1. Amazing headset. Absolutely loving the games
Fresnel lenses for hdr support feels like an acceptable sidegrade. Would I still kill for a headset more like bigscreen beyond? Of course
Hi. I just have a tech related question. I have the psvr2 unit, but I think, that the headband is broken. The initial grip (without using the dial) in psvr1 was far more tighter. In psvr2 when I press the button and try to get that initial grip with the band - it is sliding off my face and head. OK, when I use the dial, the headband clicks and I can get the headband tighter. Button releases the grip and the headset falls off my head again - almost no "initial grip" . The headband itself, when pulled back and released, returns to the original position. Is it designed like this? Should the initial grip (without using the dial) feel so loose?
Yes, the button basically disengages the headset strap. You need to turn the gear at least a little bit to re-engage it.
Um, Ackchyually...
Lighthouse is marker based inside-out
Also the PSVR 2 HMD is inside-out
The controllers are outside-in
Is there a chance to put some foam behind the front cushion? It to hard and hurts my foreskin.
Can anyone tell me if any magnets / magnetic components are used in the headset itself?
Need to know for medical reasons!
How do the soft plastic rings hold things instead of glue?
Friction
Can y'all make a video taking it apart and putting it back together please
Pancake lenses are way darker ruining the experience. This is not a compromise. The image coming from PSV2 is beautiful in part because of the lens choice.
Is there a good way to tie these controllers to my hands like the Index knuckles or kiwi controller strap for quest? Being able to fully open my hands is something i dont want to miss on a new system. Its just so much more immersive when throwing or catching something as well as comfortable during longer sessions.
Since the tracking ring is around your wrist it does a good job at keeping the controllers in your hands even if you loosen your grip. Unless you open your grip completely and pull your thumb in they won't slip off, and the short lanyard keeps them from slipping off completely. Not covered is that the controller has linear proximity detection functionality in the lower fingers (R1/L1), index finger (R2/L2), and thumb (top buttons/stick) allowing basic gesture detection with no or minimal pressure. Open palm gestures work as expected when a game supports them.
I; literally just wanted to know how to remove the HDMI cables. Wow. Nice work Einstein.
One of my PSVR2 controllers stopped working while I was in game. No battery level warnings or anything, just an abrupt stoppage and statement that the controller is disconnected. I tried the hard reset stuff the internet recommended but that didn't do anything. It won't turn on, no lights come on when plugged into any power cables, separate chargers or the PS5 itself. I used 3 different cables. It appears that it won't charge and is completely dead. I took it apart while watching this video and reseated the all the connections at the USBC port end to no avail. I didn't disassemble past just getting the battery removed. I couldn't see any obvious burn marks or damage on the charge port or ribbon cables inside. I then took the other controller partly apart and plugged the dead controllers battery into it and the 2nd one still worked. Using the 2nd battery on the first controller did not fix it. Is there a common part that has been going bad on these?
I recently replaced the back head rest and front and replaced with the globular cluster psvr 2 comfort mod and it was the best thing i ever did
3:15 Thats where the Beyscreen Beyond comes in!
Looks great! The psvr one was dead the second the tether cable was damaged. This looks like all you have to do is replace the headband at worst.
I noticed the end of the type c chord that plugs🔌 into the ps5 will tend to bend no matter what position you put it in. I'm pretty sure this will eventually lead to a short. Does anyone have any suggestions. Laying the ps5 horizontal will still have the same effect.
Connect the cable to a short extender (must support DP and USB3). If that fails, at least the main tether won’t.
I've yet to accidentally yank the PSVR2 cord from the PS5 but I secure the cord on to the desk next to the PS5 with some duct tape. This way, if I yank on the cord during play, the tape will prevent me from yanking the plug off the PS5. Not exactly fancy but a quick, cheap way of protecting the USB C jack and PSVR2 plug.
Lighthouse tracking is also inside-out tracking, a common misconception.
Lighthouse is inside out. That was the defining difference between SteamVR and the original Rift when they released. The Rift used Constellation, which was Outside In and required USB connections to the PC. The Vive used SteamVR tracking, which was Inside Out and didn't require any sort of connection to the PC at all as a result.
Yup the external modules for Lighthouse don't require any connection to a PC, just power. They shoot out beams of light that scan across the room in a set pattern, hence the name Lighthouse. There are simple light sensors in the controllers and headset that pickup the patterns. With a little math you get a very accurate position relative to the external modules which simply shoot out the light patterns constantly. Tons of advantages over cameras because the math is way way simpler than processing a bunch of camera feeds. It's super clever.
So the cable looks replaceable-ish?
If one of these Inferred eye tracker sensor disconnects around the lens, it start to flash red and after 5-10 seconds it turns off the PSVR2, like it has a fault.
Would it be possible to upgrade to pancake lenses ourselves?
How are fresnel lenses an upgrade over the single element? Fresnel has artifacts and a proper single element would be better visually, although at a higher cost. Granted you can get cheap single element lenses that are done poorly. It was the one thing I love about my PSVR1 and HATED about my HP Reverb G2.
No artifacts. Godrays.
In my ps vr2 is showing double images UP AND DOWN and also not tracking eyes is it defeated unit?
Plz reply.
Does anybody know what the tools he is using
I would say the batteries for the controllers should be far more accessible IMO. I understand needing to repair a stick but a battery? Every user should be able to replace their battery with ease.
Good Stuff!
Any thoughts on wedging something in between optical units to gain additional 1-2 mm of IPD?
The IPD is mechanically adjustable on the psvr 2
@@kamikentaro Max IPD on PSVR2 is not enough for me.
Please do a Pico 4 teardown to see how feasible it is for individuals to replace parts such as the joy stick, battery pack etc. Thanks😉
In my ps vr2 is showing double images UP AND DOWN and also not tracking eyes is it defected unit.
Plz reply asap.
Thanks a lot for the teardown, I was having problems trying to disengage the cable from the headband insides. I'm trying to design something to attach a face mount as quest 2 has to the psvr2, I cant tolerate this PSVR2 forehead mount and I have psvr2 kept without being able to use it. Too unconfortable for me.
I can say, psvr2 visor works perfectly with unplugged sound cable and head vibration motor.
I'd like to see a video of that.
1:07 does anyone know what type of screws are those?
Did you ever find out? I need to remove them.
Does anyone else have problems with their PSVR 2? Mine won't turn on anymore and when I connect it, an error says too many usb devices connected. This is really bumming me out.
Go to your system settings and remove your controllers and re-pair them
what's the repairability score??
I think they stopped giving a score, I haven’t actually seen one recently on their channel. I’d presume it got a 10 though.
I believe if the most difficult part of a device can be replaced without breaking any of the hardware by an average user, it deserves a full score. Maybe a 9 due to one or two of the plastic clips breaking but it’s miles better than glue.
Can you review SHIFT13mi?
Calling it a compromise is barely reprentative of how good it actually is, imo.
It looks incerdibly well built and has better hardware than other headsets at a comparable pricepoint.
I've had it since launch and it's definitely an impressive piece of technology for the price.
And that's really the compromise... No Hall effect sticks and a lower resolution OLED screens than what's actually available on the market today, just to keep that price down.
Lack of wireless connectivity also still has the benefit of neglible latency through the USB connection and keeping weight down, which is actually awesome.
I say Sony made all of the right choices for VR2, already more than excited for VR3! Now it's just up to us, the developers, to create more VR-enabled content.
Of course: it’s a loss leader (or near enough) that’s made up for by software licensing. No one else can compete with that lol
Clickbait title and it worked
How could I fix stick drift
No way vr2 has a cooler as well ? omg :)) I am so amazed by all this design
It just seems to be a small IC fan, I wonder if you could modify it and put a larger noctua cooler and have a sort of active cooling system for your face
Please can someone tell me what size screwdriver is need to remove the visor? It's NOT a torx T5 security as another video said. That's too big.
Let me know if someone tell u
It was a T4 @@trino5561
Incredible
A 3 hour battery in the controllers is good? Or sorry, “not bad”? My quest 2 controllers use single AA batteries, and last well over 16 hours…
Can you replace the USB-C cable that you’re tethered to?
Yes, it's detachable, but it doesn't look like it's a regular usb-c cable
Yeah it looks like a special l shaped usb 3.2 gen whatever cable. So 20gbps? 🤔
I’m getting 4-6 hours depending on how much the games seem to use the haptics.
i see the title and i imagine its the game TearDown its on PSVR now
High risk high reward video.
Fantastic video, I get about 6-7 hours from my handsets.
My Quest 1 has the same oled + lense combination as the psvr2.
How do you get to the screw behind the trigger
You should try disassemble Sony's Xperia. Are those repair-friendly? Unlike apples and samsungs.
The battery life on those controllers is kinda shocking, my Quest 2 controllers last forever on panasonic eneloops, I charge them every 3 months or so? I'm not sure what's hogging all the power as the design and operating principles seem pretty similar here?
i would have loved to see those dismantled OLED panels in aktion
how can you call it a compromise when it's the best on the market?
In theory, could one replace the lenses or wood that just make the headset worse?
Would pancakes lenses actually make that huge price diffence? Pico 4 use them and it's below $500
Only on the size, from what I have heard. But it's either small sized headset or large FOV, not both.
But as he said, the limitations of using the pancake lens, the fresnel is the better choice for that price range.
Stellar video. 👍👍👍
it is technically a 1000 headset as it cannot be used without a ps5 until a pc solution is made.
What happen to repair ability scores 😩
Finally Sony do the right thing about repairability.. Thanks Sony.. 🔥
Sony isn't a perfect company, but they always made it fairly easy to repair their stuff so im happy they didnt change that
You still can't repair it if the cable is damaged. Sony asks 300$ for repair of the cable.
@@ahmeti.7595 It's not to hard to repair the cable!
I can repair the entire electric board if needed.
@@ThermalWorld_I am talking about replacing the cable. Sony should provide spare cables but they don't. Are you going to manufacture the cable yourself?
@@ahmeti.7595 you don't need to replace the entire cable!!!
Just repair it on the broken point, not very hard to do..
If you don't know how to repair anything, bring it to repair center.
Easy to repair doesn't mean you need to have everything as a spare parts for repair!
I would love if Ifixit came out with a replacement cable. It's criminal that sony charges an arm and a leg to replace it and won't sell an replacement
As great as it is no backwards compatibility with VR1 games and no PC support make this extremely tough sell.
Imagine if they came out with better lenses you could buy and put in
@iFixit
Can we use PS VR2 on PC ?
If yes then how?
No
The drifting controllers is an automatic no for me. Start using hall sensors FFS. And no, before anyone mentions cost, it's not an issue. Google the cost of hall effect sticks vs the crappy ones.