New World Hinted at MASSIVE Content Shift Before The June Reveal

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  • čas přidán 17. 06. 2024
  • in this video I go through a video I almost made two months ago, but didn't. Looks like my assumptions were correct that content will revolve mostly around solo questers and their gameplay going forward.
    That being said, the FFA area and a new trial is nice, but if they both go the same path of OPRs and Arenas, they will have a shelf life and the cycle will continue. Sometimes it just comes down to more content.
    A link to the video in question can be found here: • New World: Forged in A...
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Komentáře • 65

  • @planetg2125
    @planetg2125 Před 11 dny +15

    Their decision making is baffling. But what's clear, is that the devs aren't gamers

    • @Jraffneck
      @Jraffneck Před 9 dny

      It’s Amazon They are just good businessmen

  • @Eridorrr
    @Eridorrr Před 11 dny +13

    I hate the whole claim they have for having more pve players than pvp players... To your point, you're right it's mostly casuals that come into the game that are leveling and are exploring the world for the first time, chopping trees, experiencing the whole gathering system. Then you might also have the sets of Elite chest runs that are done daily, then you have such a small portion of players doing mutations and good luck finishing an m3 or let alone even getting a group that even understands what's going on or at all. Most people have left the game, and a lot of pvpers that were once in the "pvp players" category are gone as well, of course their data is going to read that way they are completely out of touch and their data and approach to reviving this game is crap.. I want so badly for this game to succeed if not for the sake of new world at least for LOTR but man I don't know just can't see it happening which is sad ... I am not even mad at this point I am genuinely confused, will never understand how they let things get this bad..

    • @isth3reno1else
      @isth3reno1else  Před 11 dny +2

      Yeah that was the thing that was weird.
      I really don't care if they go an arpg solo route, a pve trial and expedition route or a hardcore pvp route...but to me right now they're wish washing to whatever they think is the best when they just need to make and improve content

    • @Eridorrr
      @Eridorrr Před 11 dny

      @@isth3reno1else completely agree!

  • @nordee
    @nordee Před 7 dny +4

    TLDR; 💀 DO NOT BUY THIS GAME! 💀
    This goes out to all possible new console players, do NOT buy this game. The game studio behind it (Amazon Game Studios - AGS) has been lying to us, the PC players for months and months now. They stopped developing the game, they are not fixing bugs, they just want you console players to invest your money in this trainwreck of a "game".
    AGS tries to bait you into a rebranded game "New World" -> "Aeternum" because the reviews for New World and so Aeternum were devastating. Read the Steam reviews, read the press reviews and come to your own conclusion if you dont trust us. Us PC players who have been with New World for so many months and years, we stuck to this "game company" for so long and yet they kept lying to us. This is why everyone is furious. AGS is nothing but a lying, money hungry company.
    They delivered nothing, no roadmap, no content, nothing, for 9 months!
    💀 DO NOT BUY THIS GAME! 💀
    I've uninstalled this game 3 weeks ago. After 2400 hours. I just couldnt take any more lies by this company.

  • @JGburneraccount
    @JGburneraccount Před 11 dny +5

    we have pvp players, and we have one map for them LMAO. If these devs actually invested a slight amount of time into pvp instead of ping ponging and not doing shit...we might actually have players. so fkn dumb what makes me so mad is that new world had so much potential.

    • @isth3reno1else
      @isth3reno1else  Před 11 dny +2

      I can't imagine another good pvp game going more than 6 months without new maps, but new world thinks 1-2 maps per game type for years is fine. Makes no sense

  • @W9HJBill
    @W9HJBill Před 10 dny +2

    The Devs are liars and clueless. If they gave us 2-3 more OPR maps and 1-2 more Arena maps and rotate them (or even RNG) them, then the player base wouldn't be so pissed. And I'm not a huge PvP player. 95% of the time I am PvE and they haven't given new PvE content worthwhile. They FINALLY, after major begging for months, relented and are going to (supposedly) going to do repeatable Soul Trials, but that's too little too late.
    They are banking on Console players saving the game, but you miss one thing that you hinted at ... the game had 900,000 initial players, but they lost all but 5000. Releasing to Console players isn't going to get any appreciable number of those 900,000 players back. They already have the capability to play the game, but they don't want to because they (the Devs) pretty much abandoned the game and hosing over their PC Gamer player base. They are in effect just saying to heck with their PC players and are trying to milk it for Console sales ... but it will fail, because the 900,000 PC players will tell every Console player to not buy it.

  • @MrVikingmead
    @MrVikingmead Před 10 dny

    I used to think this game being a testing ground for Lord of the Rings was just fan-fiction rumors.
    But now I’m more convinced than ever that is the case. I feel like they are testing systems and only further pursuing testing on systems where they see the most profit or use. This is evidenced by creating some new feature without any follow through as you clearly pointed out. OPR, Wars, increase gear score but higher level areas drop gear at old cap, regions are recreated (First Light) but not updated to keep players there, etc. And the continued rollout of new systems/content just happens to grab casual players.

  • @JohnAPrescott
    @JohnAPrescott Před 11 dny +6

    And these clowns are doing the new LOTR game?!?!?!?! lololololol....riiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiiight.....

  • @leonkennedy9739
    @leonkennedy9739 Před 10 dny +1

    You nailed it 100%. You cannot make a community around casual players. Its easier and works far better to simply bolster your veterans and have bew players slowly integrate. A good example is ff14, it doesn't do much at all for bew players and have seen great success.

  • @SB3xQoraishx
    @SB3xQoraishx Před 11 dny +1

    no1 your analogies and comparisons are always spot on, and you are completely right. they are taking the same route zinamax took, and it hurts my soul, heart and mind to go through this again.

    • @isth3reno1else
      @isth3reno1else  Před 11 dny +1

      It sucks because at least with eso the performance held back a lot of the things they could do with that game.
      New world doesn't have the same excuse

  • @NativeJoe012
    @NativeJoe012 Před 11 dny +2

    Well... they spent 3 years developing a survival game. Then they spent 3 years making a mmo- got the standard features. Now they told us they're going to spend the next 3 years making LOTRO as their featured mmo and their gonna switch this one to more of a elden ring style theme park for the next 3 years for an action rpg stand point. Maybe after that they'll go pax dei route. 😅

    • @PlagueFromOuterSpace
      @PlagueFromOuterSpace Před 11 dny

      They didn't even make the effort of removing all the survival mechanics from the Mmorpg, i mean what does people expect from them?

  • @jairtheunlucky7503
    @jairtheunlucky7503 Před 11 dny +1

    You're correct, it's ESO all over again.
    I think the reason is simple, it's easier to cater to casual pve. PvP is harder from an upkeep perspective.

  • @dbspurge
    @dbspurge Před 10 dny

    Great video and perspective!

  • @NWOKRUSH
    @NWOKRUSH Před 10 dny

    brother you gotta use that shadowplay! i thought it was my computer tripping but then I realized you made the same mistake I did when it comes to recording gameplay, you prolly used obs or streamlabs haha, but great video though man!

    • @isth3reno1else
      @isth3reno1else  Před 9 dny +1

      yeah this was before i upped my bitrate lol. it's a fun fight but slightly ruined by stupidity, haha

    • @NWOKRUSH
      @NWOKRUSH Před 9 dny

      @@isth3reno1else hahaha all good man! It’s funny cause when I saw this I knew exactly what was going on. All good though!

  • @sakis2011
    @sakis2011 Před 10 dny

    good perspective brother

  • @wrath6919
    @wrath6919 Před 11 dny +1

    Slight name change tricked me lol

  • @Jraffneck
    @Jraffneck Před 9 dny

    The sad truth is that if you had 20 people in a room 10 vet players that log in every day and keep hoping and spend zero money because they have done everything and all the season pass
    And 10 players that log on for an hour or so every couple of weeks and buy cosmetics and boosts who are the company going to cater to ?
    It makes me soo sad

    • @isth3reno1else
      @isth3reno1else  Před 8 dny

      Veteran players pay for cosmetics also. A healthy game with a healthy population will go further imo than just catering to casuals by season, but what do i know

  • @OlyPhoenix86
    @OlyPhoenix86 Před 10 dny

    The biggest problem here is that they’ve been listening to the loudest feedback which was PvE only players.
    It sounds like now to me they are done with the PvE only crowd because for years now they’ve seem to not be able to articulate what they want. Plus the biggest drop in player numbers is after PvP was effected negatively by a change.
    Whether people like it or not New Worlds endgame is PvP. Unless a PvE player can articulate to the devs what it is they want then it’s not happening.
    I have made many suggestions and for some the devs have liked and said they are interested in. After two years I’ve been feeling like my feedback was actually implemented.

  • @fpsking931
    @fpsking931 Před 11 dny +1

    They're so lost. They look at their PvE data, notice 2M people ran genesis in a year and think people LOVE the PvE content. When in reality, the people spamming 25 runs per day are gold sellers. Like, I've ran gen for gold cause the economy is awful and making gold is impossible and every lobby I joined was an indonesian gold seller one. Normal players aren't doing this. They're in OPR, 3s or war. And why the hell hasn't war accessibility been addressed and fixed yet?! Less than 2% participating is abysmal and just pathetic.

    • @isth3reno1else
      @isth3reno1else  Před 11 dny

      *makes bad system*
      *players don't play system because it's bad*
      *the game* "players just don't like this type of gameplay so let's scrap it!"

  • @Artanthos
    @Artanthos Před 11 dny

    I hope we see the day come where the devs remove their heads from their asses and give us a new opr map

  • @xyourdeus4972
    @xyourdeus4972 Před 11 dny +2

    Th3reIsNoOneLeft

  • @riseofduckente9868
    @riseofduckente9868 Před 11 dny

    and they even decreased th epvp track xp gain from arena what was my main source of gear and income.... now i cant even find one arena in 20 mins why take away an incentive to play i dont realy understand

  • @dabb1up520
    @dabb1up520 Před 10 dny

    Fire the Devs.. Fire the Leaders.. Hire competent workers who know what they are doing and how to make a game.. and a lot of this will end.

  • @BRADLIKESPVP
    @BRADLIKESPVP Před 10 dny +1

    The reason they're not making new maps & pvp modes is because for console players the current map is going to be entirely new as is. Really no reason to make something that would make the game more enjoyable for current players.

    • @isth3reno1else
      @isth3reno1else  Před 10 dny +1

      Current players aren't console yet.
      I get not doing things right now, but not adding on to wars, oprs, arenas and a lack of trials and expeditions since game launch is a bad look

    • @BRADLIKESPVP
      @BRADLIKESPVP Před 10 dny

      @@isth3reno1else Oh yeah it is, I just meant from their perspective there is really no reason to focus on new maps etc.
      It's more than obvious at this point that these devs have no idea what they're doing and they'll never change either. They should've focussed on content that people actually asked for a long time ago and the game would actually be in a spot where it had a future.

  • @GameCritics
    @GameCritics Před 11 dny

    2025 Roadmap is not yet made because they dont know what to do.

  • @xmasso2k12
    @xmasso2k12 Před 11 dny +1

    IsTh3reSomethingElse

  • @NatOSz8
    @NatOSz8 Před 11 dny +3

    Nw is amazing, but it feels likes this devs live in their own bubble.

  • @jamesmalcolm4288
    @jamesmalcolm4288 Před 10 dny

    Im max everything on PVE, 250 all crafting, 20 all weapons, got all artifacts, did all stories and side missions, got some areas at 300, so where is PVE content????? Im also 200 on PVP, got over 500k gold, nothing to buy. 4k hours in game and nothing to do PVE or PVP except support my company. Grinding, invasions Push and War. OPR (pvp in general) is broken as they wont fix exploits so all you are left with is Grinding chest runs and mats for low rewards taking up a shit load of space

  • @lgleonardogomes
    @lgleonardogomes Před 10 dny

    New world nasceu morto. Mudaram todo o core do game pra incluir pve e estragaram tudo.

  • @Der_Wolvenfang
    @Der_Wolvenfang Před 11 dny +1

    I love how they always say PVE babies outnumber PVP players 5 to 1 yet every single youtuber that has been constantly playing are all PVPers. Entire companies I personally knew that were PVE focused are all gone and the only companies I know left that actually play are all PVP focused. They still fail to see that the people that log in to play are all mostly PVPers, the other 4/5 of "PVE players" are bots farming. Console players play a game for a month or so, buy a new game and never touch it again. Hell yeah Oct 15th the game will be full but come Nov 15th we will be back to the 5,000 concurrent PVP players again. Scot and Katy should be demoted at the very least.

  • @scarbunker
    @scarbunker Před 10 dny

    PVP doesn’t make money in games like this. I’m one of those casual players and have around 900 hours in the game. I still have things to do and I only PVP when I have to. If I had 2k+ hours in the game I could see having nothing to do. I don’t pay a subscription like I did with WOW for a decade or more. Content is king and AGS is focusing on the people that drive revenue. Pvpers are getting a whole zone and they have already added a new way to fight for territory. Yes they need new arena maps and an opr map but they need to add more story content as well. The game isn’t perfect but I enjoy it more than I ever did WOW. I hope the console release brings in new players and I’m looking forward to the changes coming.

    • @isth3reno1else
      @isth3reno1else  Před 10 dny

      If they were making the money they wanted they wouldn't be switching to an arpg theme. Mmorpgs can make money, they're just choosing to go this route by choice.
      Nothing wrong with catering to ant specific base, but they're chasing the dragons tail switching up the core of the game to the whims of the community at the time , which is why they're on their 3rd game switch in just over 3 years. Pick one and run

  • @Alexandre.Charron
    @Alexandre.Charron Před 11 dny +1

    This game need to die. Ffs

  • @user-nl8ni3xw9v
    @user-nl8ni3xw9v Před 10 dny

    More maps will not make any difference for pvp because it's pvp, that's why you should play COD instead, COD is focused on pvp and NW is not, that is why NW is failing, pvp in NW should be instanced, gear, stats and loot should be adjusted around pve not pvp, only than NW will see their population rise.

    • @isth3reno1else
      @isth3reno1else  Před 10 dny

      Yeah look at all of those pve players not playing pve. Makes sense

    • @user-nl8ni3xw9v
      @user-nl8ni3xw9v Před 9 dny

      @@isth3reno1else Is because pve was overtaken by pvp, nerfing skills, stats, loot and control over territories, what pve left to play?

    • @isth3reno1else
      @isth3reno1else  Před 8 dny

      overtaken? plenty of things got buffed to be in line with other weapons and if you want pve and pvp are completely separate from each other as it stands already.

    • @user-nl8ni3xw9v
      @user-nl8ni3xw9v Před 8 dny

      @@isth3reno1else I watched things go down hill since the beginning, 15% taken from pve and given to pvp, heals got nerfed to the point that it is only a flash for the visual, SS got nerfed, berserker got striped of self heal, self heal got nerfed to the ground, loot in pvp has a lot higher chance for legendary, is that what you call pve? what is the point to do pve?
      All they did is spent their time on pleasing pvp community instead of adding content to the game.
      I'd say GET RID OF PVP and New World will recover over time.

    • @isth3reno1else
      @isth3reno1else  Před 8 dny

      @@user-nl8ni3xw9v they haven't done anything to please the pvp community that's the point of the video lol.
      High end raiders and pvpers are ignored for social casuals. That's the future of new world

  • @ReactFaster
    @ReactFaster Před 11 dny

    First

    • @isth3reno1else
      @isth3reno1else  Před 11 dny +1

      Good to see you dude. Hope all is well

    • @ReactFaster
      @ReactFaster Před 11 dny

      @@isth3reno1else you as well bud. Haven't played NW in quite some time but still enjoy hearing your thoughts on things. Great content

  • @cristiandavidmorenopalacio3963

    pvp players may be a minority as the developers say, but they are the ones who make the game visible to the public

    • @isth3reno1else
      @isth3reno1else  Před 10 dny

      Yeah, streamers are a huge form of advertisement, idk why games don't see that