Leaving the US for My Kids | A Better Life in France | Best Countries for Black Women
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- Danielle and her kids moved to France for a better life. I had a chance to chat with her about why she chose France and what life has been like there for her family.
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This conversation is so important. The freedom from the burden of racism, the healthcare, so many great reasons to leave America.
I've Gotten So Paranoid I Don't Even Check A Race Off When I Fill Stuff Out Because Idk What They're Doing With That Information Here
@@issavirgo6079 oh i haven’t done that since the late 90s lol.
Yes
@Coco_fit same!
Absolutely, I stopped entering race on applications in highschool decades ago. It just always felt off to enter info when business claim it doesn't matter.
Toulouse, France is the sister city to Atlanta, Georgia which was established by former Maynard Jackson's wife who attended University in Toulouse many years ago. There is a great student exchange program and a very active Sister city relationship between Toulouse and Atlanta.
Sis! My experiences here in Japan with the amazing diagnosis and ongoing care after being diagnosed with Parotid cancer. I have seen my Japanese doctor every month after my surgery and radiation treatment. Each visit here at Hiroshima University Hospital is $8 -$45 ish dollars at a rate of 110% which is incredible to me. My doctor is so attentive to my medical care. It's a level that I have never seen or experienced in the US. I could do an entire interview about surviving cancer in a foreign country. My entire operation and 1 week hospitalization, in a private room, was less than $10000.
If you ever decide to do that interview I'd love to have you on the channel
@@AdaliaAborisade Thanks so much. We should definitely chat.
$10k is still a lot of money for subsidized care
@@poppyseeds439The US healthcare is the most subsidised in the world and by far. And yet for same situation people get indepted, go bankrupt or die because they can't afford the treatment in the US. So 10K sounds like a bargain in comparison.
In France healthcare is subsidised twice less than in the US and yet chronic illness like cancer (drugs, treatment, surgery, hospital stay, everything) is 100% covered by the basic healthcare insurance available for all and for free.
So, I entered black expats in france and your channel popped up. This video in particular. The honesty of Ms. Balmelle is wonderful. I'm more likely to spend time in Italy than in France because we've visited there more often, but her story is so good that maybe my wife and I will do more research into France. As a Black American, France has a certain appeal because of its historic acceptance of famous Americans. I have to agree that being a Black American in Europe carries a certain privilege. We have never felt threatened while in Europe, while going to some places here in the States triggers tension and wariness.
Your channel has a new subscriber. THank you.
The fact that she’s able to receive covered care for a serious, pre-existing condition is everything. That’s hard to find, even outside the US.
If it weren't for the ACA I doubt most would be able to get it at all
Let's encourage our sons and daughters to take advantage of study-abroad opportunities in France.
Paris is the first place I experienced as an adult man that I felt unburdened from racism. I wanted to kiss the ground.
France wasn't on my radar but it is now
I totally agree with you on that.
hi I'm french and I don't understand the american need for a "community" (people who are looking just like you). In France, we don't have this necessity to gather between people of same color or culture : you can come to France and be friend with anybody as long as you're enjoying your time with echother. Great video and interesting conversation by the way.
It's not really for you to understand but if you're interested in learning more you should read up on the history of Black people in the US
@@AdaliaAborisade very well said
As a french white guy, thank both of you for this discussion, it was very interesting
I love Danielle's personality and I love her hair cut!!! I miss my stylist who has passed on who was trained to cut hair in Paris many moons ago.
Adalia, this was such a great conversation. Nice job! I learned so much about the French experience hearing about her ex-pat lifestyle, and the history she discussed was informative and engaging ....thanks to Michelle for sharing her journey and the opportunities there. I pray she keeps cancer away for the rest of her life--she's a beautiful, wise woman.
European skin care is the very best for Skin period. As a former licensed Esthetician I will tell you there is no such thing as "black skin care". The emphasis is on quality of product. Treat your skin by it's skin type and condition and you will be fine in any country.
Exactly! Someone finally made this clear. Thx
Hi, you can find brown sugar in any supermarket. It is called Cassonade. The one we use for crème brûlée.
Good to hear about her medical treatment in France. I’ve been diagnosed with breast cancer and taking hormone therapy for 5 yrs. I’m planning to live abroad myself. I heard USA ranks 37 in the world health organization and Portugal ranks 12. I’m tired of the USA living. Anywhere you live it’s going to high cost and earnings are low. I’m a 60 yr Asian Pacific Islander who travels on a regular bases as a flight attendant. I ❤️ Europe.
My black American friend up and moved to Australia. She made comment on FB saying she feels like she doesn’t have to look over her shoulder walking around there. Very sobering. I found this while deep diving into moving to France. I have a military pension and ready to take the tax hit on 401Ks to leave.
Thank you so much for all this info.
I love that Danielle is so open!
Another excellent interview! I had to forward 12:00 conversation to a family member because I was so afraid that she didn't know about monitoring. Just the thought that this conversation could save a life!!!!
I enjoyed your interview with Danielle. Sending lots of good vibes to you both from Monterey Bay in California.
Thanks for watching
This conversation was incredible
Absolutely love this conversation, thank you Community❣️
Our pleasure!
I remember when I lived in Oregon and the news was shocking! I couldn't deal with it. Good you got to see and experience a new life and perspective.
Love the info shared, especially how open Danielle is about her journey and experience. Based on her describing lockdown it seems like spring 2021.Can you list in the description when this was recorded?
Yes this was recorded in the late Spring of 2021
Another great conversation for our community. Thank you!😀
my pleasure
Great content! Loved this conversation.
Good info. Thank you from Detroit!
Such a great conversation. I love caudalie. I stocked up last time I went to France 😹. The healthcare differences are seriously mind-blowing.
The French peoples pay LOTS of TAX ,nobody complain, because one way or another they will get back and benefits from it .in the US peoples want a good health care system but nobody want pay any more tax but want more gravy -In the US you are stock with 50 different states with 50 different laws ,France is one country one LAW all oversea territories included-
New subscriber ! Thanks for this convo . A lot of her story mirrors my own. I live in the South of France too.
Wow! Thanks for subscribing.
Thanks for sharing this story Sis!
You are so welcome
I would love to hear Danielle's perspective following Le Pen's near victory and how areas outside of the large metro's supported Le Pen.
A lot of great information came out of this conversation which made me more comfortable about making the move from Mexico to France. Thanks a lot for sharing!
Glad it was helpful!
What an empowering conversation. Learned so much. Thank you!
Glad you enjoyed it!
Great interview with two beautiful sisters
Great video. Thanks! I love your headwrap!
Watching the replay: I am toying around with learning another language. Love the information being shared by Daniella.
Glad it was helpful!
I’m visiting again! I can’t wait to go thanks for sharing this video ❤
This is a fascinating interview, but a very unique situation. We always have to remember these countries are smaller and things are set up differently. It's so much easier for foreigners to come to the US and they often get benefits denied Black Americans. For all of the heavy anti-Black racism that exists in the US, Black Americans are the backbone of the country. We have such unique cultural and heritage ties that have global impact. Blacks don't have the same level of success or influence in other countries compared to the US. If we go abroad we've got to use whatever favorable attitudes, interactions and potential situations that work to our benefit. We certainly deserve it.
I love Isigny butter and the ability to have such fresh cheese and other diary is out of this world though. Gastronomy delights!!!
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Great video! Thank you.
Thank you, great video!
French use generally "levure boulangère" and you can find that in supermarket under brands like "Francine", "vahiné", "Alsa" etc... For black beans you can find some (Alreay cooked) under the brand Cassegrain. For Chemical yeast , Alsa sell it (the little pink bags) and Ancel, vahiné too in the pastry preparations section.
Great interview. May need to add France to the list?!? I also watch Tiffani Davis a black woman living in France. She's amazing. Tfs
You might add Patricia Brooks !
France do have brown sugar
From the French Caribbean islands
She forget to say also... ALL AMERICAN, BRITISH TV SHOW and MOVIES in the French TV (we have a lot, as French one) can be viewed in AMERICAN-ENGLISH original language VERSION ... just press the "AUDIO" button on the remote control.😉
This info is fantastic!
The town of "Gruissan" is famous for its wooden chalets mounted on stilts. And, even more so, after this village has served as a shooting scene for the film "37.2 le matin" (released under the title “Betty Blue” in 1986 in American cinemas - BAFTA, Oscars, and Golden Globes 1987: Best Foreign Language film - available on Prime Video).
Awesome thank you 💙
Enjoyed this video so much
So glad
Love the open conversation! We are mulling a move to reunion island (french overseas territory) any pointers on that?
Thank you for this
When we see that our health care system does not have interventions in place to maintain our health, But instead we have medicines that we potentially have to remain on, for a lifetime, that tells us it’s our health care system is in the profit making business and not helping people prevent disease.
I WHOLEHEATEDLY AGREE WITH YOUR STATEMENT. THANK YOU.
Thank you! An excellent video! Narbonne and Gruissan look like a perfect place for us. We are retired American educators looking for a better place. After helping a new school open in Lviv, Ukraine, and then staying in Poland and Estonia for 7 months, we decided to move to Europe. France has the best healthcare (my wife Cindy has MS and is a breast cancer survivor), a moderate climate, solid public transportation (we donated our car to a Ukrainian refugee in Portland), and is not too far from Ukraine (we want to help rebuild the country after the war ends). Thank you! Dean & Cindy
Such an interesting conversation I’ve been listening to it on and off throughout the last week thank you so much
It saddens me to hear her healthcare story. Not only do we live in a place where the food is making us sick but we can't get the care we need. I have 4 more years to stay in this madness and I am praying I make it.
OMG! Everything she said is true.
However, I have lived for 15 years legally in France 🇫🇷 but I came back home because the job opportunities were very very low. I had a job but it was poorly paid, childcare isn’t as easy as It is in the US I could barely get by and I relayed a LOT on public assistance. So I decided to return home even though my 10-year residency card was still valid. All I am saying is that everyone’s circumstances are different. Since I got back to the US, I have been blessed abundantly. I own my house, I am investing in real estate. I am working in Hr/ Finance…I was sad to come back but it was the best decision for my family at the time…
DANIELLE, you should have requested Citizenship at the embassy from the US, it would be much easier…
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Hola I love your videos they are all inspiring,but I have a question about Mexico,I was wondering is it the whole country that has the two inch septic pipes or are there some cities where it's OK to flush?this is a big deal for me.
If I recall correctly...there is brown sugar there and it is called "Cassonade".
Thank you for sharing. This is important to hear for anyone who cares to live in a diverse community where everyone feels welcome.
I did wonder too about France and the seemingly one way religious/secular freedom bias in favor of the Catholic Church. I can see how some “secular” rules can rub some groups the wrong way, it’s unnecessary and a cause for friction, just like other
forms of discrimination.
New subie so refreshing 🦋🙏😍
Thanks for subbing!
I soooo enjoyed this video. Thank you 🙏🏽 what is Danielle’s contact info??
She looks DAMN good for 47!! It definitely speaks volumes to the quality of living in France! Can you please do a video on the MEN in France? and dating there?
I'm behind you
My mother shocked me a few years back she was skeptical about me moving across the country from Ohio to Losangeles but once they visited they knew I made a great decision she shocked me by saying have you ever thought of moving to Paris France she's like your already far I'm like🤔
Hello Ladies! Thank you for posting this conversation. Can you suggest some great sites for securing work in France? I work remote in educational technology.
As a white male, interesting conversation. Thanks for sharing. I also loved France and wish they had a digital Nomad visa similar to other countries. I sure as heck can’t learn enough French to get a job there lol😂
I’m glad people aren’t settling for where they’re born and familiar with and are looking and taking action and moving abroad. I hope to follow!
Hello,I'm just finding this discussion interesting as I was looking up the topic of france. You did not post the app for black expats or contact for Danelle. I have a question for her regarding homeschooling in france and the process. Thank you. I enjoy your show very much. Cheers
Hi good afternoon how are you doing I will be taking my vacation in October to Paris with my daughter and six grandchildren
What is the avg rent for the area??
Approx~ How much to "purchase property" there in your village?
Or for rent for that matter?
time stamps are needed
While I'm a mixed African American, I was treated 85 times better in France in General. It had nothing to do with me being American as most Americans tell the big lie stating that the French are rude. Not a rude sole when I went. My grandmother went too. She's darker skin. Still same treatment. I also had a few African colleagues who lived in France. They too, agree with me.
To further clarify the truth of the matter, we need to differentiate the difference between De Jure (government imposed) and De Facto racism. France doesn't have and never had "de jure" racism. They never had disenfranchisement (i.e. literacy tests at polls). They never had laws like "Jim Crow". In other words, France never directly infringed/oppressed the civil and human rights of their civilians in the form of legislation; however, De Facto discrimination exists more globally, including in France. Unlike the US, however, their De Facto discrimination is not and was never influenced by any past events of De Jure discrimination. It more has to do with individual personality. Just who likes you and who doesn't. No countrywide culture like the US.
In the US, most acts of racism came about as slavery was being dissolved an abolished. This is because the slaves were no longer in their government defined place and the fact that it was ultra race based. Also, French colonialism is very irrelevant in this context as I'm primarily discussing mainland France. Victims of colonialism were never allowed to be trafficked into the mainland. Also, France more so owned up to their wrongs and granted most of their colonies their independence. Lastly, victims of French colonialism were not French citizens. In the US, the situation is almost opposite. We have to understand that American racism was not legalized, but mandated. Legal just means, no laws against the act. Mandate means that the act in question is enforced by an individual against his/her will be a person/authority regardless of the legal state of the act. Secondly, laws like Jim Crow were not targeting slaves as slavery had already been abolished. Unlike the French, the US never gave it's freed slaves any self-governing independence. Instead they made them citizens and their descendants citizenship at birth. This was not actually a good idea. This is because Lincoln didn't actually free the slaves. If it was him, there wouldn't have been an underground railroad. In other words, the slaves freed themselves, bankrupting their masters. So, instead of freeing them, they made them citizens, using their newly granted freedom against them (i.e Vagrancy laws). This is how mass imprisonment began. Don't forget the 13th Amendement doesn't protect prisoners from Slavery in the US. It was also done to make leaving the country difficult. All Blacks in Mainland France self migrated there; so, if they didn't like it, all they had to do is head for the exit.
Racist laws in the US and South Africa were unique among other democratized nation with racist laws as they infringed essentials to life, such as freedom of movement, voting,, public accommodation, freedom of assembly (interracial marriages), privacy rights (Loving v. VA), and freedom from bodily harm.
France also lacks racist organizations like the KKK.
There was never a time in Mainland France where the government imposed racism akin to the US against their own citizens.
Fun fact. During the worst days of Jim Crow. African Americans who were more fortunate enough to leave to country, fled to France to escape racism. I would recommend reading about James Baldwin.
I am very happy for your experience living in France, you could explain to the Americans people that paying tax is nothing wrong if anyone could benefit , from times to times i watch on tv an American show ( doctor LEE pimple popper ) it is obvious those people got no insurance at all so they wait and wait until it is to late , something like that will not exist in France or here in Canada
if that happen you go see your doctor and you will be send to the hospital to be fix at no cost like here in Ontario ( we pay lot of tax i do not complain) did your family from the US came to visit you in France, i wish you the best for you and family
Wowww I’m very happy to meet your channel because i like your spirit i will leave my completely support after watching I’m gonna stay connected with your channel as family member please let’s stay connected 🥰🛎🛎🥰
I loved this video: I'm learning to listen to my gut and am unlearning the 'employee' indoctrination that so many of us have been institutionalized to believe. My gut tells me that it's possible that I'd be happier, literally, somewhere else.
Edit: I love Danielle's transparency.
You got this!
What's the name of the expat app?
Hello, what is that app she said?
I think, it's "impérieux" (impératif) , not impérial (based from empire, imperator, empereurl 😊
Does France recycle the way we do in american i.e recycling trucks?
Yes, even more...
So did she get a Visa or what,,, how did she do the kids visas?
Of course she and the rest of her family have the appropriate visas. She would not be able to live there with it.
My kids are 15 13 and 12 I was wondering if there is a city or area better for kids in france. I would love to move there but want a family feel or a black kids group would also work
I recently watched this video, and it was beneficial for someone in Portugal wanting to move to France. Portugal is an extremely poor country with bureaucracy, unskilled labor, and bland food. These are the hidden secrets that most don't discuss.
What are the Facebook groups
Pour la levure chimique! La levure boulangère pour brioche dans les magasins " grand-frais" ce sont de petits Cube ,ou levure professionnels sur internet ! Levure chimique tout Supermarché rayons biscuiteries !
I have a cousin (BW) who married a French man and they have mixed kids. She worries that her kids look middle eastern and would be discriminated against.
It’s always something, right?
Yup. Bw can not catch a break. Almost as if we aren’t supposed to exist here.
That’s not true. We are celebrated in this world. I’ve lived and thrived in France, Sweden, Korea and China. Wherever I am, I thrive. This is my mentality and it works for me and I don’t see why it would not work for you.
@@inmytravelstoday yep its a mentality thing too. Fear and sadness can hold a person back.
@@girlanonymous It can, if you let it.
Hi Adalia. It has been a minute since this video post and I wanted to know if you were able to provide Danielle’s email address or contact information. My daughter and I are narrowing down our places to move abroad and we had some basic questions maybe Danielle could answer.
In US, American black people are black, in France, they're (heeere !) just American. In France, French black people are black, in US, they're (baaack !) just French. That's why Nina Simone moved to Paris in 1982, that's why Omar Sy moved to Hollywood in 2012 or 2013, somethin' like that.
OMAR SY a été elu personnalité préférée des français ( pour un pays raciste)et est parti aux us pour sa carrière et les impots
Hello. I live in Spain and yes, although there is ignorance and racism here against blacks (particularly against Africans), there are just as many people who are kindhearted and who will defend you against idiots at the moment. Mostly the problem is that many black people here (women) from the Dominican Republic or Cuba work as domestics or in a reputable profession. I wouldn't recommend that families educate their children here but rather in France or even in Portugal. It's a pleasant place for couples and for older people, especially on the coast in the Málaga, Marbella area or in Barcelona or Madrid, for example.
The USA may be or is racist as most blacks who are born here say. Leaving the United States and moving to Europe, I mean any country in Europe; is what we call; Leaving a frying pan and jumping into a fire. Sure things will look good for you the parent, and you may have some money you hah saved up in the US. Blacks, Chinese; in short, non Europeans, even those born in European countries, cannot attain any great positions in the government or private sector as they do in the US. Your kids growing in France or any other European country, will just supply workers for their menial jobs in future. Look at all the Arabs and Blacks who were born in France how much of them are very frustrated. If they can't play soccer well, then there chances for making it becomes more Blick. You can complain about racism in the US, but if you do your best to bring up your child, with a strong emphasis on education, respect of the law, don't do drugs, and hard work; they have a far better chance than they will ever have in Europe, especially France. As an African, I am happy that things are picking up in many African countries. It will take time, because most African countries are still fighting the vestiges of colonialism and post colonialism, especially from a country like France; which is still sponsoring coup de tats in African countries to place in puppets. Asians understand what racism is, and they are working very hard to beat it in their countries, hopefully Africans will also put this Eurocentric mentality in the dust bin with time. Look at what happened in Rwanda because of colonialism. The people were taught separation and hate. They learned from that bitter experience . Thank God today, things have changed tremendously in that country; and today other African countries are using them as an example of how to come out from the hate imposed on them from Europe.
@@BueaBuea If Black American want to move and live outside America, we're going to do that. Don't tell us what to do. Black American (ados) were apart of building America. So don't even try to push white supremacy stereotypes on us about not working hard and drug use. There are many black americans with college degrees. So, don't even say we be working at the bottom. You don't know nothing. This is why some of us don't believe in black/african solidarity. We don't want to live in Africa. Skin folks are not kin folks.
@@BueaBuea
You just show total ignorance. You believe every black in the USA are like Obama and have a great position, there are also black politicians in Europe, just like most of black in the USA live in poverty.
@@BueaBuea You are writing lies. Many people of colours can have nice paid jobs, but you must have a good diploma and work hard, like anybody else. Do you know that most white people don't have a well paid job too and don't climb the social ladder?
My wife is chinese and came in France at 28 years old. She started from nothing (no money and not speaking French) in France and 10 years later she became manager because she worked hard.
Other cities : Bordeaux, Lyon, Strasbourg, and smaller ones Annecy, La Rochelle...
Cost of living depends somewhat on the place. Of course, at 10 mn from Narbonne it's much cheaper than in Paris - but it's also more difficult to find a very good job, I suppose.
I'm learning from you both about some rules (visa etc). Lots of positive things in your video, but I'd be curious to hear you about something many expats I watch are calling "the French bureaucratic hell". As for me, beeing French, one of the worst place in the world is a French prefecture. ;-)
There has been controversies about allowing statistics including ethnical origin, but AFAIK it remains strictly forbidden here.
The woman living in France looks racially ambiguous, she can pass as other ethnicities more so than black, I assume she's mixed race and honestly there is a bit of a difference in experiences from those that have the "classic" afrocentric phenotype, in Europe 1 drop of black or biracial doesn't make you "black" like in America, they have separate categories for it.
@@Sky-pt6lc That doesn't matter! She obviously doesn't look black.
Very valid observation
Correct. In the rest of the world mixed race doesn't mean black. Even light skinned "full" African Americans aren't perceived as Black and it changes how you are treated. A dark skinned Black person will have a completely different experience. Now, peace of mind is still important and if she feels liberated in France then that is just fine too and I get it.. But I would caution equating her experience as a light skinned mixed race person with a dark skinned full Black person.
I'm AA/Chinese American who looks Black married to a half Ghanaian/White person and we travel a lot with African family. Very different experiences.
Are there women who moved with younger children?
I'm sure there are. I interviewed Michelle who son was 5 or 6 when they moved. czcams.com/video/IixABFir0UM/video.html
I don’t like that you asked where she is in specification. That is a woman with children her privacy matters.
It's not like she gave out her address. 😂 I think she'll be fine. 🥴 The internet is funny af.
we have brown sugar
Why France!
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France and the USA have a very long common history. We know that many Americans, black or white, gave their lives to help us during the two world wars. We know that the French went to help the Americans in your war of independence. This is the main reason why Americans are welcomed, regardless of their skin color.
You are not one of those people who do not come because they love France but because we are very (too?) generous in social assistance.
You come to us to work there, to integrate, so you are well accepted. If you come to live on our hooks, to contest our way of life, our relationship to religion, our attachment to secularism, inevitably things go less well.
If a Frenchman came to the USA and spent his time criticizing your country, would you accept him?
Americans are welcome because they don't come from third world. That's all.
I would like to have Danielle's email address please
The reason you don't see many black people in France, is not because they have fewer. Percentage wise, they have about 3/4th of what the US has. It's actually because of the lack of government imposed racism (including administrative segregation). All blacks in mainland France always had full freedom of movement and public accommodation. They are just more spread out. This makes France less racist because a racist against blacks has to find a needle in a haystack, whereas, in the US, everything is on the map, from segregation to census data.
Lol