đ„Step-by-Step Reloading .38 Special Ammo - Tips YOU Need To Know.
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- đ„ In this video I show you Step-by-step reloading .38 special ammo. I go into detail about proper set up of all 3 revolver reloading dies and why. We are reloading .38 special revolver ammo from start to finish. So, it may be a little lengthy, BUT Informative! This video is a great video for beginners and might jog your memory on some of us veterans too! So I hope you enjoy it.
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The best explanation on how to set 38sp I've seen on here. Thanks for your help. Great video
Well thank you Jason for that comment. đđ. That one earned a pin to the top of the board.!!
@@atlyvwire just learning to load.
Had an old (red) Lyman 4 hole given to me. The old guy that gave it to me said he was sad to be getting out of it, but at 93 he didn't shoot much anymore. I'm only loading for 38sp and 357 mag for my marlin. Your part on setting the seating and crimping die was a life saver. The struggle was real for me in trying to get that one right. I watched your video around 9pm and couldn't help myself but to go out and try it. Was up loading until 2am..i get up for work at 4:30..lol thanks man for the lack of sleep.. bahaha
@@atlyvwire do you use facebook?
@@indianajets Man Iâm super glad I was able to help. Sorry about your lack of sleep! Been there đ€Ł
Well have fun with that be safe. No I donât Facebook Iâm not on there, I donât like the drama.! đ
This is probably the first time that I have seen a reloading video that the author appears to cover EVERYTHING! T/U
I haven't hand loaded in over 40 years, great refresher course! Will be watching again.
I'm looking at a friend's setup to purchase. He's a nice guy but a terrible teacher! This showed me what I need to know. Thanks, good job.
A couple of comments from someone who has been reloading since the 70âs: uniform trim length ensures consistent crimping and if the case is several thousands over could cause over pressure. That spacer ring is only used for the expander and seating die for 357. Overall length per the book is only useful if using the exact bullet specified, best to set depth, (coal), to approx midway down the crimping grove, (or cannelure of jacketed bullet).
Rookie reloader here. This video helped me out so much! Thank you!
If you're using magnum pistol primers, a good way to keep them from accidentally being mixed with standard ones is to use a magic marker to color the faces of the primers before you dump them from the shipping trays. Then you have a 'heads up' before they get installed.
This will be the first pistol cartridge I will reload for, this video helped a lot thank you!!!
Your welcome!!!
This very good explanation i will be loading 38 spl i have learned well from this thanks
Excellence, great details.
Great video... The longest part of reloading, counting those grains out! Hilarious!
Very well done, thorough and speed of the video was just right, thanks
Thank you, and youâre welcome đ
Good video. I like using the Lee Universal Decapper because I decap before cleaning. Avoids scratched sizing die if you pick up range brass off the ground. I like to clean after the flash hole decapped. I also like the Lee Case Primer. It is easier on the hands, has a good feel to it, but filling the tray can be a bit fussy. Time is not a big issue for me since I enjoy the handloading process so much. I do like my single stage Rockchucker best, but I have a Lee progressive press mounted on a Harbor Freight grinder stand so I can move that press inside to reload when it is cold outside. I use the progressive press single stage because time isn't an issue and I feel I have better control with a more consistent result. Great hobby!
Excellent info
Good video. One thing. You mentioned always starting with the listed starting load - good. You mentioned working up to the max load - good. However you didn't say that you should never use LESS than the listed starting load either.
Otherwise, you've made a good training video for newcomers, and that is something that will always be valuable.
One can often get by with going a bit below starting. Going a great deal below staring can, of course lead to "other problems".
@@lestergillis8171 - True, but you have made a video for "newcomers", and newcomers won't have a grasp of the "bit below starting" concept. That's a concept for experienced reloaders because newcomers might interpret "bit" as half of starting. For newcomers, it should be a standard instruction "don't use less than starting". This is also a standard instruction in all reloading manuals. They all say this, so a video targeted to newcomers should also include this basic instruction. As they gain experience, their understanding will expand, and "a bit below starting" won't be an issue. But as a "newcomers" video, this basic concept needs to be included.
Excellent video ! Thanks very much đ
great info, I have toyed with the idea, but watching you do it, and realizing I go to the range 2maybe 3 times a month, well..a man's gotta know his limitations. I'm buying em I guess...by the time I buy the equipment, coulda had 2 years worth of bullets..thanks for.your time
You could teach high school trades. Very straightforward info. Very helpful while i'm at my bench learning how to load .38.
Excellent instructional video!
I love using lee brand dies. The brass looks like it is polished after resizing.
Wow this is great!! Will be watching all your videos
just beginning reloading very informative video thanks much BILL
Great video just getting into reloading have all the equipment have everything but primers going to start with 38 special this video will help me out a lot thank you
It is now April of 2021 and I hope you got some primers. There are none to be found now. The last I heard of that sold on Brand Used Works sold for 500.00 for a 1000 primer box.
Thank you for your response. I have been loading for years on a single stage press and I love reloading and find it to be a great hobby. The problem I had was hand fatigue during case prep. I purchased the lyman case prep xpress and it really has made reloading enjoyable again. That might be something that you might consider purchasing at some point. No I donât work for Lyman but it has really saved my hands.
Thatâs not a bad idea. Appreciate the recommendation. Yeah for some reason the younger i get, the more achy breaky Iâm getting as well.!! đ
Thanks great content
I just got a midway and Natchez catalog. The smokeless powder went from $200 for 8 lbs to close to $500!!
I believe the first step you should always point out when trying to teach someone to reload is tell that person to get a good reloading manual and read it. No exceptions, maybe even read it twice.
I agree. Maybe theyâll read your comment and do just that. I canât remake the video. And as for my press being loose, Iâve tightened it up so weâre all good there. Thanks for watching hope you enjoyed it.
Please bolt your press down, it bothers me, Hahaha đ, great upload, thanks
Really good explanation. I make it a point with all pistol cartridges and straight wall rifle to crimp in a separate step since the length of the brass can vary slightly. Lee Factory Crimp dies will change your life.
Just found this excellent video. Very informative for those getting started. I have been reloading since the 70s and competed during the 90s and early 2000s in PPC using the 38 SPCL and Red Dot was one of my favorite powders with the 148 HBWC. Had the opportunity this past weekend to finally show my grown son how to reload and did this single stage so he could learn it well before moving to progressive at a later date. Your technique is almost identical to what I have done all these years and also using the same equipment. Couldn't help but notice you picked 3.0 grains to start with, but at 20:54 and 21:05, your scale is set at 3.2 grains, but still a safe load.
Thank you Jerry for the kind words and the short story. Itâs always wonderful reloading with our children and getting them into it. Iâm glad you enjoyed the video. God Bless!
Realy good owerview and informative video, Thanks from Sweden
Hell ya! Thanks Sweden! đ€
Great video, Sir. I am new to 38 sp. reloads. Powder in rifle cartridges don't leave so much air space so when I read 4 gr for that big ol' 38 shell, I was skeptical. I learned allot from you especially bullet seat depth and the crimp roll. Stay Safe.
Theres alot of good stuff there. Glad I could help!đ
Great job explaining the steps. Thanks!!
Great video, thank you!
Youâre welcome John. Iâm glad you liked it!!
I have been using Red Dot myself even on 357...so far so good....just subbed
russ elder Thanks Russ, good to see you on board. To be honest most of my 357 is red dot and the 38. Itâll sure let you know if you got a hot one in the batch thatâs for sure! đł
Great video! I needed to see this, because my friend started me and then he moved away so I was all by myself didnât really know how to get back in there cause itâs been months. That really made me feel confident thank you so much
Your welcome!!!
Great video my friend keep up the good work.
Man when you pulled the plate out I almost died laughing when I saw those tweezers
Yeah, that video was a lot of fun to make.! đ
Nice details, thanks.
Thank you for the video! I am reloading with my dad next week after many years of not touching a reloading table. Helped me a lot đ
Super glad to hear my video helped!Reloading with my father is what got me into this and Iâm glad I got to spend that time with him. Now heâs reloading in heaven. My wife and I are showing the kids and will forever reload.
Enjoy this time with your father!
@John Beige I do! My grandson has appointments his way monthly, so we spend a few days with Great Grandpa, it's an excuse just to hang around with himđ we enjoy every second of our time together
I enjoyed this video thank you! I have a Dillon 550 but I like the manual, one-step-at-a-time approach and less calibrating. Saw the Amazon link for this kit but no listed sellers.. I'll keep looking, might set one up just for 44-40.
I do the same with my powder bottles. I also made a bullet seating stem or I should say I modified one to fit my bullets better. Great video. Keep them coming.
Great job brother! It was really helpful! đđđđ
Please provide a short video on just setting up the sesting - roll crimp die. Thanks.
Hey Jerry, maybe you have not seen my video called âbullet seating and crimpâ.?
Let me know if you havenât checked out that video itâs in my playlist or there is something more specific you are referring to. Thanks for viewing!
I also use the Hornady sure-lock rings on my dies. One tool that you might like is the Hornady die wrench (396490), as it fits these lock rings perfectly & runs ~$9..
Thatâs good heads up Bruce. I didnât even think of that! You meen I can put away my gigantic crescent wrench & I was thinking about Bustin out the pipe wrench the other day!
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Thanks!
@@atlyvwire Welcome! You are real; SO many are not, especially commenters who do not "do"...
Please make a separate video for setting up the last die. Thank you!
I made this video a while back and it is for .38 and 357. Bullet seating and crimping. Is this what youâre looking for ?
check it out. czcams.com/video/a2adhY8Oxmc/video.html
Great video !
FWIW: .001 of an inch isn't the end of the world. I think your aggressive crimp probably added more pressure gains than leaving it that depth.
Good Info, I'm just getting ready to set up my Hornady Lock N Load AP Progressive, I like the idea of using a factory bullet to get the COAL pretty close to start Thanks for the info
I'm jealous! my next press will be progressive. Let me know how you like it! Load on bud.đ« Thanks for watching
FYI the set screw does not mar the threads on your die. The lead shot behind the set screw squishes into the threads. To loosen it just loosen the set screw and give the ring a knock on the counter. At least that's how my Deluxe Redding dies work.
Thank you for detailed videoâ€â€â€
Great job! Semper Fi
Good job complete info
Thank you. đ
Potentially, any & all powder measures can and do drift a little from time to time.
Recheck charges occasionally through your run.
Great video, but one comment: you don't clean your brass prior to depriming. I do, because I don't like putting dirty brass in a die. Eventually, you will get scaring and/or start sticking cases. I clean, deprime, tumble, then proceed with the reloading process. I don't have the scratches referred to at the start of the video. You can't tell if mine are once-fired, or on their fifth reload. Brass and dies will last much longer and love you for it. Just my experience.
great info thank you
Very helpful. A short video link to setting crimp would be helpful!
Thanks Andy Iâm glad it helped you. Iâll try and get that short link in there that might be a good idea. I have another video on crimping also dedicated to just crimping. Have a Merry Christmas!đ
Good video !
Great video, thanks. Just did 9mm today & .38 spl tomorrow. Using my Lee 4 die setup & Forester press. I've tried not using lub with my carbide dies & now always use a spray on lub since it makes the pressure so much easier on the ram. Home made lub of lanolin & 99% isopropyl, Thanks
Thanks for the comment. I dont use lube with my carbide die when sizing the case on my straight cases. But to each their own and itâs not wrong.
I see where youâre coming from because some of those little buggers can get pretty firm and it makes you wonder.
It Is the enjoyment we get from this art! đđ
Good stuff
Pro tip here, never adjust your charge based on one. Throw 10, weigh it and see how close you are. In this example you should see 30 grains. Then adjust a tiny amount and throw 10 more. Way easier to see an accurate average.
Only do not add the .357 spacer ring to the sizing die because you still need to resize those longer cases all the way up to the bottom of the case.
For greater powder measure consistency, mount your measure in your press. Or a powder measure stand screwed down right over a leg on your reloading bench. Consistency is demonstrably better when the measure is mounted as solid as possible. Try it, you'll see. đ€
Thanks for your input. I just may try that. Obviously we move our stuff around our bench for ease of accessibility. But it makes sense đ
@@atlyvwire If you are loading for short range benchrest, okay, makes a dif. We are discussing 38 spcl loading...Luvta had too many shrooms today. Peace!
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Great info...thanks
Sir, all of your videos, that I have seen, to date, are awesome, and Iâm learning so much. Thank you. I am doing CAST .38 and .357 M ( for revolver ) with 158 SWC Lee molded tumble lube boolits. They do not have the canilure, and I am powder coating them, no lube. There is no gas check involved with these, as well. I was given a set of RCBS carbide TAPER CRIMP dies for this. Obviously the die setup and procedure is different than your roll crimp. Iâm guessing and researching, that it would just be similar to doing the 45 ACP in your other video? Did you make any videos on loading cast, powder coated , with taper crimping? Thank you again !
Hi there and thank you for the kind comments I appreciate that. Just put a slight taper to remove the bell that you had done to insert the bullet. It will be fine. You would follow the same steps as setting the taper crimp on the .45 yes.
Roll crimps are standard but taper is not Unheard of with no cannelure, just make it ever so slight and youâll be good.
No expert but I ran into that a lot of the primer pockets were not cut deep enough that the primer stuck out just a thousand or two. So long story short I been cutting the primer pockets and the primer flash hole.
Nice video! I thought CZcams was shutting channels down for reloading videos? I remember Elvis ammo and fortune cookie 45 lc commenting About this last year? Hoping they have changed their policies about this?
Hey Sean, glad you liked it!. I see what they are talking about.... thin line on ammo... Thanks!
Thank you for these informations and your time doing it! I am used to rifle reloading, but new to pistol reloading so now itâs all now very clear to me! The part on adjusting the seating/crimping die is specifically nice! Happy holidays!
Your Welcome. đ
...lube the hopper cylinder with either graphite or moly powder
aligned with this comment...dry lube only folks!
What part of the process used GRAM CRACKERS? đ€Ł
Thanks for the vid bro!
How is the recoil with the specific hand load?
Rifle cases tend to stretch quite a bit faster than pistol cases.
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How about an RCBS 44SPECIAL or 44 Mag crimp
I have a bunch of flat top 125 gr Berryâs Bullets with no cannelure ; what to do about crimping? doi do it anyway; or will it damage the die or bullet
@@richardevans3084 you have to âtaper crimpâ a bullet with no cannelure. If roll crimping is all you can do with your shell set up. Donât load that bullet. Use it for the shell that you taper crimp.
@@atlyvwireThanks for quick reply đđŒ Maybe you could do a video on this different form of crimping âTaperCrimping. âDamn iâm so pissed with myself for buying these Berry Bullets that have no cannelure ; it had no markings stating this on the Box
@@richardevans3084 hey there, I do have a video that covers taper crimping if you watch the .204 reloading one because thatâs a rifle cartridge. I taper crimp that and obviously the .38 special .357 video I made is roll crimps. those two videos should get you in the right direction. I donât post anymore to this channel because CZcams doesnât like reloading videos or anything to do with guns, bunch of liberals but anyway, I hope you can find what youâre looking for there. đđ
The only thing I didn't like about this video is how the Press is Mounted. Way to much "play" in my opinion. I always mount my Presses Rock Solid. Otherwise, Great video.
Since the video I reinforced the press. Iâm glad you enjoyed the video. Take care
Good video đđđ...now if we could only just find primers without being raped costwise đđđ
At 6:35 you say to use the .357 Spacer==This can be confusing==You do NOT use the spacer when sizing...You use the spacer with the other dies only. In other words-ALL Sizing is done with NO spacer..Bill.
Sure, whether you use the spacer or not for 357 doesnt matter because youâre still running the shell holder up into the bottom of the die anyhow, so on a technicality youâre correct. I hope you enjoyed the video. đ
At the 10:32 mark you pull out a piece of card stock but you never mentioned putting it in or using it to begin with.
Thatâs true, itâs a piece of thin cardboard like from the front of a notebook or a business card to give you that hairline gap you need between the shell holder and the carbide ring on the resizing die when setting it up to give you that gap so you donât whack the resizing die and risk breaking the carbide ring with your recite the shell holder.
@@atlyvwire Thanks! I was wondering what it was for. So it is a spacer to keep things from banging together. Got it!
Measuring the powder looks way over 3 is that the camera angle?
Must be. Because itâs perfect.
27:27 Crimping Starts.
Thank you Nicholas, thatâs good information to put out there.
Interesting, how much, after materials and time (not counting initial equipment investment) would you estimate you save per 100 rounds rather than just buying the ammo?
That's what I was wondering. After the machine and die costs is the savings per round substantial?
My guess is with the price of over the counter ammo today, it is. Especially if you shoot a lot. It's such a downer to hit the range and then realize you're running low on ammo.
All in all it looks like it can be fun to do on a rainy day or just to get away from the wife and kids in your garage or basement.
@@rolfhogfeldt7645 It is a great sport, hobby, lifestyle. Have been loading from 15 yrs. of age...42 plus yrs. now. I HAVE SAVED 10S OF THOUSANDS....
How do you know your loads are getting too hot when working up to the max loads in a revolver? I read flattened primers and cratering aren't 100% reliable
If I do work up Hot Loads (+P) I work them up to either max grains by the book, OR back off if I start splitting case mouths. If your splitting mouths, your cases are used too much or your WAY too Hot! đŹ I never exceed the book data recommendations.
Thank you!! I'm just about to step into reloading. Saved this for a reference. Would it be effective to have a few single stage presses? That way I never have to adjust anything after initial setup? Just wanting to load lite target loads.
Thatâs awesome. Thanks Tom. Iâm glad you enjoyed the video!! safe loading. Iâve never made my own lead yet but thatâs coming down the road.
Why didnât you advise him to get a progressive reloader?
Thanks! ... I'm just starting to learn the process, no equipment yet, but have 1000+ spent shells, and 200 FMJ 357/38 bullets, 130/158 grain. The FMJ bullets seem to fit very well in the spent shells, and of course no exposed soft lead. Is it OK to forego shell flair process?
If Iâm understanding your question correctly, Before you can flare you must deprime and resize your shell. Once you do that youâll notice the bullet wonât fit quite as well because currently the case is bigger than it should be right now being it expanded by being fired.
@@atlyvwire That is correct ... I was referring to the point where you're ready to flare to fit the bullet, with all other steps done. I guess the part I missed was that resizing may not allow even a FMJ bullet to fit. So I'll stick with the script and do the flaring, leadnose, or FMJ ... thanks again!
Thatâs right, whether itâs full metal jacket or lead you need to flare the case mouth. Especially with lead because if you donât youâll shave the lead off the side of the bullet. Thatâs the nice thing about straight case after theyâre sized when you bell the case mouth the bullet slides in tight and then you do the straight crimp on it just to put that belled mouth back where it was yet leaving it flat so it headspaces correctly on the end of the shell.
I have to correct a portion of my last statement. I forgot youâre reloading for 38 special or 357 so they donât headspace on the end of the shell like a .45 ACP would. đ
I am working on some 38 special 125 grain. The over all length is 1.55 but with the 125 grain it is 1.46 to the crimp groove will that work
That will work. You just do not want to exceed the OAL on the straight case revolvers.
@@atlyvwire yea that's what I was thinking. Semi-wad cutters are shorter than that right.
Just for fun I pulled out some of my loaded .38 LSWC and they all measure 1.46!
@@atlyvwire I loaded 5 first and tested in my sp 101 and they seem fine
Looks like cookin crack to me đ
11:54 just the tip, huh?
I can't wait till you have a video on how to load toilet paper. That's gotta be fun. Just kidding, great đ video.
I laughed out loud when I read your comment. But seriously loading toilet paper is a serious business. Not to be taken lightly!! It could get shitty real quick!! Got enjoy the video đđ
Good video but I came to see how involved this is and it doesnât really seem worth all the effort for me.
not belled enough, it will be very fiddly to get cast bullets started with this amount of bell. Good vid otherwise.
Your press is pretty loose.
So's your ole lady...
Russell
You mentioned that you don't tumble your shell casings but I noticed you have a couple tumbling drums in the background. Another hobby? Tumbling gem stones?
Hey Charles that is a tricky question. I donât typically tumble my straight cases because it makes them all shiny when you resize them right, and since that video the lovely wife bought me a sonic cleaner so now I use the sonic cleaner and now my tumbler sit there and collect dust. đ
Thompsons want to sell it?
@@whatstheproblem6606 Not yet, but thanks for asking. If my sonic goes down then Iâd be resorting to hand cleaning! đ
Thompsons đđ»very informative video
Dude no children should be allowed to be involved in any procedure of reloading cartridges period. If you want them to watch fine (safety glasses) maybe even have them handle brass cleaning equipment but totally exclude them from any other procedure in reloading cartridges . Common sense needs to be applied .
Youâre absolutely wrong. teaching children is just fine. Maybe your children would have an issue with it. Not mine. If you hand your kids a task and donât double check or supervise them then youâre a problem. Dude, My reloading equipment, my kids, donât worry about it. butt out. Keep your personal opinions to yourself.
Dude==Keep YOUR KIDS away from YOUR reloading procedure!!! MY Kids (AND GRANDKIDS) learn to Handload with me and are very Safe+Sound....YOUR COMMON Sense is NOT Applied...Bill.
Tony,
I had a Father who did not handload. If he had, I would have been RIGHT UP HIS ASS, like I was in hunting and fishing. I was totin an unloaded 20 ga. shotgun @ age 5....was LOADED and hunting rabbits @ his side @ age 7 years. Hunting alone (Father in same land tract) for squirrels w a .22 rimfire @ age 7 as well. All things are relevant to the situation. I had a GREAT man for a Father, as I am sure this man is towards his kids. Please do not judge over a keyboard, when you have not met the man.
Peace Tony...Julio
Great job, thanks!
Thank you. Great video!