What's The Real Gas Mileage Of The 2025 Ram 1500 Hurricane?
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- čas přidán 25. 04. 2024
- Today I do a fuel economy test with the 2025 Ram 1500 Hurricane at over 7,000 feet in elevation!
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I just bought a 2023 RAM 1500 Limited with the Hemi/E-Torque. I’m averaging 14-16 around town and 18-19 highway. I’m all about these turbo charged engines but for that little of a difference I’ll take the Hemi.
Turbo engines certainly have numbers that look good and can game the EPA ratings. In real world use it all falls apart. The power isn't bad, but can be inconsistent, especially once you get heat soak during towing. The mileage is the thing that always disappoints. I've had the Ford 3.5 turbo, the 5.0 and a Ram with the Hemi. In everyday use the 3.5 got notably worse mileage than the v8 trucks. Currently have a 2020 Ram with the 5.7 and we're averaging 21 MPG in mixed use, but mostly highway. The Ford 3.5 never saw over 18 MPG in mixed use. We'll get 17 or 18 if it's all running around town. The hurricane also runs it's boost at 26 PSI; that's a whole lot of boost. Most turbo sports cars hover around the 14-18psi range with peak boost usually hitting the low 20's. Longevity has to be a real concern stressing an engine that much.
It's not really "gaming" anything, they just burn more cleanly, that doesn't necessarily mean that it gets better mpg. Horsepower at the end of the day requires a perfect ratio of fuel and air, more power needs more fuel but higher pressures make for a more complete combustion which helps reduce emissions. High boost pressure isn't inherently less reliable. Those boost pressures have been used in diesels for quite awhile now. I have high hopes for this engine. Being an I6 it has some inherent simplicity compared to a v8. Even if you have to replace a turbo every 100k miles that's not that difficult to do typically. Turbos are on the outside of the engine so it's not like you have to Crack the thing open to swap a turbo.
@@UnyonRing I should have said gaming the EPA mileage ratings. The mileage looks good on paper, because you can stay off boost during the test cycle, but once real world use kicks in, the actual mileage suffers. High boost pressures are inherently troublesome for gas engines. You can't compare diesel and gas engines. Outside of burning a fuel, they are comprehensively different. The Hurricane has been in the Grand Wagoneer for a decent stretch now and the warranty return numbers they've had are definitely a cause for concern. There's hope for the engine, but FCA's track record and the current state of the issues they've already seen, I'd give it a few years for them to work out the kinks.
@@jcrbama yeah it largely depends on how you drive it. I regularly get 20-21 mpg mixed use Dailey driving with my 3.5 ecoboost. Drops down to 9mpg when towing my trailer. I disagree that high boost pressure is cause for concern though, as long as predetenation is not occurring the engine can be designed to handle the higher pressure, the same way that diesel engines are designed for higher pressures. From what I've anecdotally heard from a service representative the hurricane seems to be doing well in the grand wagoneer, that car just has tons of other issues that it ends up in the shop for hahaha
Its all bullshit. You will find out the real world ramifications several years in when it is already too late. This is by design. Just wait for the first 2000.00 maintenance/repair bill and of course you cant fix it because it is much too complicated now.
@@UnyonRing I guess time will tell with the Hurricane; I totally believe the ton of other issues with the Wagoneer. FCA needs to figure some things out.
$1100 a month payment. $300 a month insurance. Needs premium fuel. Worrying about mpg, priceless.
The standard hurricane isn't a premium fuel engine, that's only the HO version.
@@icehog2367 my bad. so only $300 a month for fuel instead of $375
who would be stupid enough to have a 1100 month payment, you need to put at least 30 grand down payment to keep the payment lower.
@@ohioguy4326 yeah. nobody puts 30k down
@@ohioguy4326if you get a good interest rate, you have no reason to put $30k down lol
I'm so used to the beautiful music the Hemi makes, I don't know if I could get used to the Hurricane.
Ram was already delivering on comfort by having stellar cloth seats, acoustic glass, good noise insulation, a quiet transmission (unlike Ford) and no rattling from trim pieces. Now they finally have a quiet engine to go along with it. The hemi had exhaust squeal coming from the pre-cat piping. And the 3.6 pentastar has a lot of raspy induction noise on acceleration.
I have a Durango RT and love the sound of the Hemi. My vehicle prior was a 2.7tt F-150. While I love the sound of my V8, the 2.7 from the Ford would make my Durango faster and get better mileage and the blow off valve is still fun to hear. I would think my next vehicle will be a truck again and I love an I6. But GM will have a new V8.... We'll see!
The down side is, you are dependent on your local Dodge/Ram dealer to fix the hoard of things that will go wrong.
And the techs don’t get paid diagnostic time, they’re on flat rate and getting paid peanuts to fix em, grab the parts canon and wait 2 months for the backordered part! Stellantis can implode and die any time now,
Enjoyed the real world test which i had not seen before.
I'd definitely wait and let others deal with the hurricane engine beta testing. If it turns out to be a self grenading dud of an engine like the eco diesel, stellantis can either fix the design or fold under the weight of the lackluster EV bricks they'll be trying to sell.
I will keep me hemi
I know it sucks to see the gas mileage about the same as a V8 but it is not about mileage, it’s about emissions.
Keep the earth green, win (cringe)
I guess India and China didn't get the "green" memo..... Glad we can shoulder that responsibility for the world, LOL.
@@davidcmatson right sad isn’t it
@@mikee7241Yes Sir, it is.
Do you really believe this engine will be better on emissions than the Hemi V8 ???...if so you're a brainwashed fool like those that drive EV's and think they are saving the planet...wake the F up FFS.
It will surely have problems like the 22 Tundra did. One turbo is bad enough..Add a 2nd then tow a trailer..Oh my….
The tundra problems come from metal shavings FYI.
I'm a fan of these & I be happy to buy one.
Not a fan of any vehicle that requires premium gas
The standard hurricane doesn't require premium.
Not a fan of anything Chrysler myself!
That’s only the HO
Hey Ben, great test 👍
You should do the same test with the pentastar 3.6.
You’re right about the noise. I have a hemi with a Flowmaster outlaw exhaust that’s one thing I would miss the noise. Actually yesterday I drove it to work round-trip 100 miles and I averaged 19 1/2 mpg at 75 miles an hour 5.7 hemi. Bighorn black appearance package.
For the size of that engine and truck, that is stellar mpg
Same here ,19-20mpg and on big wheels
Reliability and regular gas always costs less in the long run than a new vehicle that gets a better mileage on premium.
I average 21 miles in my 5.4 Titan. I’d rather have a V8 in my truck
And probably doesn’t have cylinder deactivation as well?
No you don't. Unless you drive like an 90 year old man.
Agreed 100% brother
Well he’s increasing elevation from 5500 feet to 6500 feet on Hwy 40 toward Park City. You won’t get 21mpg going up there dude.
Titan has a 5.6
Premium gas needed, turbo air requires more gas consumption, no motor rumble. I like it, MY HEMI WILL DOUBLE IN VALUE !!!
They should keep the V8 Hemi as an option.,
A tune is gonna make this truck crazy
When GM dropped a 3.0 L straight six in their half ton trucks at least they made it a diesel. Ram missed an opportunity here.
Is the rated mileage based on 55 mph? You were climbing a hill between 65-75 mph.
I prefer some noise for sure.. I have a Flowmaster 40 on my Hemi and it sounds awesome!!! I'll probably end up getting the hurricane in a couple years, but I sure would like it to be louder. Lol.
I want a comparison between regular and HO.
I don’t get the hate for not having a V-8 with the lifter problems/ticking. The same people who love the Cummins I-6 turbo but then hate on the hurricane. If it makes more power and is the same or more reliable who cares?
It’s really not lol. The lifter ticking problems is a easy cheap fix lol, and a pushrod v8 is gonna be way more reliable then a turbo inline 6. People love cummins because it’s a in-line 6 diesel not being pushed very hard to make that power
Comparing an engine with almost no real world usage to a Cummins. That has decades of reputation built isn't a valid comparison.
Air conditioning running and at 5000 feet and climbing mountains,really representative of average use.
Absolutely love that engine. I'm hoping the base version will become optional in the Jeep Gladiator! 🤞
They said they will build a similar gas engine for the 2500 wonder how that will go?
I'll keep my V8. Maybe interested in the high output motor but not the regular one. I get 16 mpg with my hemi. And rumble.
Well Ben I've been buying new trucks every two years for decades now and I love the hemi..... Well is my new truck buying routine of every two years over???? it just might be????
yes, keep the TRX but RHO looks good for us (for my family, I mean)
@@CrumResearch Us? Speak for yourself buddy not for "us". We thank you.....
@@davidcmatsonBy "us" I meant my family -- Edited my reply.
@@CrumResearch Gotcha, thanks for clarifying brother. Have a great day.
Big question will it hold its value just like an electric car look how nobody wanted to buy one of those used. This is a little different because it's a gas motor but still I always bought a V-8 for the longevity.
Thanks EPA.....
We don't care about mpg we care about "vroommmmmmm" 😂😂😂
Ram will have no choice but to bring the Hemi back. I’m sure they plan on it. It’s always coming and going, but we did get a little spoiled because how long it stayed. My dad has a 2010 Ram 1500 Lone Star, and man that Hemi is still going strong, thank god!! Love the power, we just barely hit a little over a 100,000 miles.
We have a 2013 Ram 1500 with 167,000 miles. Regular maintenance, and it is still serving us well. Also have a 2018 1500 with 57,000 miles. Both are outstanding with towing, We average 19-20 around town and towing stays around 16-17. Hwy we average 20-24. I think we'll keep them both.
2019 Ram 1500 gets 19 city 22 Highway in the Hemi and have seen 24 mpg at times. I tow a 5900 lb trailer and get 11mpg. Ford F150 3.5 EcoBoost 7 mpg pulling same trailer. Turbos will never make up for displacement when it comes to longevity and mileage.
To hold on to my 5.7 hemi. Gets a bit better mileage than the 2015 F150 3.5 ecoboost I traded fir it and is a LOT more fun to drive!
So what is the differential drive ratio compared to the hemi V8
Oh, those of us on the East Coast huh? Come on over and take a trip up(and down) Old Fort Mountain in Western North Carolina.
I got 18.7 mpg City/Hwy with my 2021 Ram 1500. 4x4 Limited Longhorn with 3.92's. My 2016 Ram 1500 4x4 Big Horn. With the 3.6L V-6 and 3.23 Gears got 21 Mpg city/ hwy. It would get 32 mpg going 55 mph on local roads.
I’m in on peace and quiet 😂
Fuel economy is a little disappointing there. Guess I don't see how emissions could be lower burning the same amount of fuel. I have a 2012 Ram with the Hemi, which gets about 13 mpg in town and 18 to 20 hwy regardless of how conservative I drive it. But It has been one of the most reliable vehicles I have ever owned. It has about 105K miles, and I have not had a single problem with it. Yes, it sounds great, especially when you romp on it, but since I mostly drive conservatively, I find it is very quiet as well overall.
If you want to talk about a quiet engine, drive something with the old Chrysler 318 V8 and see if you can hear it or feel it running too. While it may not have made a lot of power, it is one of the most silky smooth and quiet running engines of any vehicle I have ever driven.
My 2010 ram 1500 hemi has 238k and no problems but just replaced factory shocks.
What gear ratio?
Did I miss it…what gear ratio?
Where did he say it needs premium gas? What axle ratio?
Does the SO Hurricane really “require” premium gas?
My 3.5 TT Tremor averages 18mpg. With mid octane 89. I let it idle after long running or towing for a few minutes to minimize heat lock. I know someone who has 250k on the same engine. I’m not concerned in the least
I’ve seen a quite a few online with high mileage like yours and don’t hear much bad other than tuneups lmao buts that’s all new vehicles
You should be.. if you actually use that truck to tow and have fun in the bush, that engine will have problems. Should have got the 5.0 if you really wanted a Ford...
This is the future we all need to get used to. Started with the mid size and now onto the full size... everything we drive is going to be a 4 cyl turbo... and then, in a few more years, hybrids and then in a decade, electric. There's a emotional element missing without all the fuss and noise, sure, but it just is what it is and unless you're good driving old vehicles forever there's just no way around it. Excellent video here, real world testing is always the best.
Going uphill to gauge gas mileage?
My 2020 1500 Ram with the 5.7 Hemi got 21.7 miles per gallon . Not loaded or pulling my camper .
You should hand calculate mpg. I’ve never seen an accurate mpg gage, they all read 1 to 5 mpg hi. I’ll buy a used TRX before I fork over 75k for an SST Rebel.
I want to see you do the new RHO review when it’s available
Can this engine be had in a plain Jane regular cab tradesmen. That’s all I need.
That’s the thing for me. You mentioned character. I don’t care about mpg, price, and all that other jazz. If my vehicle doesn’t put a smile on my face before I even get in it, I don’t want it.
My 23 Nissan Titan Pro-4x 5.6 V8 stock got 23 mpg on the hwy!! With the couple of mods I've done, I get 28-29 mpg!!
Sitting in my 2021 with a hemi and truck says I am averaging 20.4.
That's funny my hemi city and highway combined is 19.1 mpg.
I’ll keep my hemi, can compare a lawnmower sound to the sound of a V8 🤷♀️
Turbos barely increase fuel consumption they pull more air to increase power that is the purpose. It has more power and consumes the same fuel considering the weight of the current ram with the trim level. Also it depends what the drive ratio is. A lower ratio means better fuel economy but less towing capability. What is the tow capacity of this particular truck you were driving? They vary based on options added. I will wait a couple of years to see reliability of engine long term. I will miss the rumble of the Hemi for sure. 3 generation owner here
So 19 mpg average is not bad at all.
Not on gasoline engines. Diesels can use more oxygen with the same fuel quantity to a point but gasoline must remain near stoichiometric so more air means more fuel. Turbo benefit is to use a small engine operating at lighter load and requiring less fuel while engine using near non turbo air consumption level and low turbo pressure and resulting lower fuel. When the load is higher then the engine works at overfed rate with larger engine torque and HP but uses bigger engine fuel quantity to do it. The air/fuel ratio has to be near stoichiometric for catalysts to have the exhaust gas composition that supports catalytic function. When throttle application is great the low emissions is waived and the a/f ratio can go rich as that suppresses knock and cools exh temp to avoid catalyst melt temps. Cylinder deactivation was a way to make larger displacement engines have lower consumption when needed engine power was low. A v8 running in 4 cyl mode at higher throttle is runing in a lower specific fuel consumption range compared to an 8 running with greatly restricted low throttle opening. Low throttle causes inlet drag that slows crank and it takes more fuel to accelerate crank on power stroke that follows. One of the mpg benefits of diesel is no throttle to create the inlet drag at lower power requirement operation. When diesel engines operate at high load their air fuel ratio approaches the same ratio as gasoline and consumption rates are much closer.
@@jimmyaber5920 Thank you for providing accurate and detailed information rather than the assumption Henry made regarding turbos and fuel consumption in gasoline engines.
Twin turbo inline 6?
I never understood why we are so infatuated with getting rid of V8 engines when the alternatives don't actually provide a whole lot of MPG gain if any at all.
The Hurricane is easily over 10% more efficient on the hwy compared to the Hemi from what I've seen, that's pretty impressive. Also, the standard Hurricane doesn't require premium fuel.
How about the RHO? Lookin' good.
I’ll review one
How accurate is the mpg estimator. A lot are way off
There's a reason why the dodge readouts are called a lie o meter
The HEMI at least used 87 octan instead of Premium. I agree with other comments, do the test again with the Pentastar 3.6 in the same size & spec truck.
89 is recommended in the Hemi.
This video is so Utah.
I just ordered a new Sierra SLT 1500 with the 3.0L Duramax diesel. The only two trucks I looked at were GMC and Chevy. Even with this new engine I didn't bother wasting my time looking at Ram. And perish the thought of ever considering a Ford. Toyota and Nissan were never even in the running.
If ram would give the so hurricane motor the e torque system it would get the same mileage as the hemi
Based on RPM's it must have at least 3.92 rear end. My wife's 2022 hemi with 3.21 wouldnt get close to that kind of mileage.
It did seem to be revved awfully high at highway speeds, so I'm guessing 3.92s
You people are complaining about things you don’t know about yet. Give the engine some time to break in. Maybe they actually did a good job with it. No one has even gotten a chance to do a long-term test on it yet. A lot of people have given it initial good grades. The Ford Ecoboost is doing ok. People are still buying it. I think this engine will do ok. My only concern is it having an aluminum block. We’ll see.
It's no better on fuel than the Hemi and the sound sucks like any other 6 cyl in a truck...big mistake by Stalantis by not having the Hemi V8 as at least an option instead they go with 3 6 cylinders.
Always makes me nervous about buying something that is its first year out.
When these new trucks come out with electronic glitches. When stellantis comes out and says it needs to move their plants out of country due to their American plant workers “laziness”. We will know thanks to UAW1700 podcast by stellantis.
Literally decades have passed but no improvement in gas mileage. My 2001 V8 F150 that I bought new gets 18 mpg highway, no turbos, no VVT, no cylinder deactivation, no stop/start, 300,000 miles and engine and trans never opened. That's my idea of being green. Oh I know, its about emissions, simplicity and reliability be damned.
I'm getting older and loud obnoxious exhaust tones annoy the piss out of me. I have been looking at a 2025 Lone Star 4x2 in Delmonico Red Pearl model with the 3.0l TT with the Big Horn Level 2 and optional 20 inch wheel package and 12" infotainment screen, $56k even though it is still expensive but isn't out of sight. It sure beats my 1999 Dodge Dakota with the 5.2l in fuel economy which averages in at just under 14mpg in the city and 16mpg on the freeway. If I get 25 years out of this newer truck It will pay for itself like my Dakota has.
If you want 25 years, don't buy the first year of this untested powertrain!
The big question is long term reliability, time will tell.
naturally heavier vehicles get lower gas mileage than lighter vehicles do a base version of the Ram 1500 is 4,800 LBs where as a fully loaded 2005 Lincoln Town Car for example is 4,500 LBs and averages roughly the same fuel economy 19 MPG combined as the Pickup Truck which is 300 LBs heavier in base trim oh and there's the first gen town car with over 1,300,000 miles on its odometer oh and right now according to Kelly Blue Book a low mileage 2010 Lincoln Town Car signature L is worth 10,300 as a trade in which means you could put down payment on 2 2025 Toyota Camry XSE's and have 2,300 left for spending money granted full price with everything included is 51,000 roughly the same as the Signature L Lincoln Town Car is 53,000 base price before taxes etc. granted that trim averages 44 MPG combined with a 16 Gallon tank so depending on driving style it would take you about 10 gallons to get to Washington DC from the Boston Area for example or about 5 Gallons to go from Boston to NYC depending on traffic and driving style of course the Town car has a bigger trunk than the Camry by about 6ft3 and the fully loaded version is over 2 Ft longer
Two Italian turbo's 🤣, forgot it!
I drove that route many times before and the usual speed will be 70-80 going up, coming down easy to go over 80
I will say take off another 2 mpg to the result here to make it more closer to what to be expected
Guys are not going to drive like granny’s with this truck
2023 ram eco diesel is the way to go boys 31mpg
Is there anybody on here who’s got a hurricane with Actual highway MPG not this piddly grocery getting mileage of 40 miles tell you nothing I mean we’re looking several hundred miles on the highway. I’d like to get an idea. Thank you very much.
Even what you are doing is not a vey good test because in the real world, here on the east coast, frequent stop and go, tons of red lights, air conditioner on full blast Those empty highways out west are really not what most people have to deal with.
Ecodisel 82mph 24mpg my basic drive
Elevation has nothing to do with ears popping. That's to do with high fast you climb.
40 miles is not a real-world test, and you have to fill up before and after.
Probably worse than the hemi.
My 2004 Cummins gets 20-24mpg
That's what my 2006 Cummins used to tell me on the lie o meter. Hand calculated was never over 18.7 mpg.
My ecoboost didn’t get much better than the 5.0.
19 mpg out of the new high tech 6 cylinder? No thanks. It should be up around 25 at least. Why would you add the complication as a consumer? I know ram needs to hit emissions standards but i dont care about that
didnt watch yet, I bet the hemi gets better. lets see.
I'll keep my 22 hemi with no e-tourqe.
The hemi wasn’t super reliable. You had manifold tick and even worse lift or tick.
I'll stay with my Hemi..
impress yourself and ownership at 100k miles. Boosting the crap out of the engine is easy. Longevity is the test. I can;t afford to buy a truck every 5 years. and at $85k at a pop.
That is not that impressive. I average 20-21 mpg for highway driving with my 5.7 liter HEMI, and I have the 2014 Limited so it would have all the features and be heavier. I usually am around 12 mpg when towing a 6000 lb trailer. I'm not sure of what they gained, other than to say they have a smaller engine that now has turbos.
Sorry no 6 cylinder for me
What a fail. I used to replace my truck every few years. Gonna drive my hemi till it falls apart
Premium? ALL gas is premium price. Dont want a super gold platinum lariat supreme gas price!
Relying on the computer for mpg is questionable. Every vehicle computer mpg display has been overly optimistic by 1-5 mpg. Wish you had topped the tank and did the math manually.
It's only the dodge/ram readouts that are so overly optimistic. Every other vehicle has been plus or minus 0.5 mpg.