The 100-Year-Old Myth of Gays “Coming for Your Children”
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- čas přidán 12. 02. 2024
- I get called a “groomer” on Twitter every day - which is weird, because I want nothing to do with your kids. What is it with queers and kids that gets conservatives so livid? Today, we explore The Gay Agenda’s exhausting past - beginning with the present. First, UK drag queen Crystal tells us how she successfully sued a right-wing activist who defamed her as a “paed*phile.” Then, Chelsey Weber-Smith (of American Hysteria) takes us through the last century of American history, where myths about the Scary Queer Predator pop up again and again, and again.
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the thing about the groomer panic is it implies that giving children any awareness of sexual orientation and gender identity also indirectly protects them from what actual groomers exploit: ignorance and innocence.
To our enemies, destroying that innocence is what will leave them vulnerable. They are wrong, as we know. Innocence is just another word for ignorance. Nothing good comes from trying to protect innocence.
Its like the cult tryna open ppls eyes in the Bird Box
Children can be empowered AND maintain their innocence. My nieces knowing the actual words for genitals hasn’t made them any less innocent. But it means they can talk about any abuse or inappropriate behaviour they might experience. As a survivor of childhood abuse, not having the words and being deeply ashamed meant I actually couldn’t talk about it for years.
@@Misstressofdons That's what I'm getting at, innocence is a semantic thing. I meant exactly what you're saying. A kid should be able to point to their parts and know what they are and understand enough about CSA to have the tools to react when they are the victim, even when their abuser is a family member or someone close.
Was also a victim of CSA. It is very frustrating listening to people talking about protecting children by abolishing education when I know first hand that education is what protects children. They have no idea what they talk about, turn their heads when shown evidence, and then act like their ignorance isn't something to be disrespected for . I fuckin hate people like that CONSERVATIVES... Ooops I mean 'it's not a political issue'
@@Misstressofdons i don't disagree, but that doesn't make innocence and purity any less of an oppressive concept.
My favourite Anti-Anita slogan is "A day without lesbians is like a day without sunshine"😊
i remember when i got recruited; i had just bumped into a boy i had a crush on while we were in gym and our lips happened to hit together, when i got home there was drag queen waiting to tell me i was queer and invited me to the gayvengers.
Luuuucky!
That sounds awesome! Do the Gayvengers get capes? Fabulous capes that would make Lando Calrissian jealous?
I accidentally made a wish on a rainbow as a seven year old and my evil fairy drag mother appeared to me and made me gay, but gave me no style, sashay away. 😔😂
@@austinluther5825No! No capes! Edna Mode taught us better than this XD
You joke, but this is shockingly close to an actual event from my middle school cheer career T_T’
I gagged when Matt said "And we keep doing this every two weeks until we all die" 😂😂☠️
I am bracing myself to still be arguing with queerphobic nut jobs on my crystal glitter death bed in 2080 🧓💅
“I did think that I would win.”
Matt: “werk”
You’re so real for that 😭
Won’t somebody PLEASE think about the CHILDREN!!!!!!
I'm trans and I'm also a parent. It's wild to me how dichotomized the interests of families/children and the interests of queer people are in the political sphere. I really hope we move past this because issues like child SA are increasing, yet there is little being done about it in a pragmatic sense. Instead we've just painted an entire demographic as "groomers" and pedos, taking away the weight of those words and trivializing the issue altogether.
I anticipate that this debasing of the terms is unavoidable.
Fellow trans and parent of 2. The radical demonization of us is bizarre. The last person who would try to force someone, especially a child, to be someone they're not is a trans person. We know firsthand how damaging that is.
I think, for some, they think that we will try to force kids to be trans because that's what they do to kids. A decent amount of people force kids to dress a certain way, act a certain way, worship a certain way, etc. So since their parenting model is based on indoctrination, they assume that's what we do.
htat is the entire plan. remember, pubs always accuse us of their own crimes. and conveniently there's a lady on twitter tracking that stuff and in the main the adage fits
Trans parent or transparent.
@@BelugaGuy-ks5mp the former
Wow, I thought the tinkiwinki stuff was just a bunch of things literally fellow children made up when I was in elementary school. Had no idea old christian men were on the jump, too lol.
I have been thinking about doing my own YT channel and precisely start talking of this but in spanish. I feel we need MORE outlets that dismantle the myths and mental gymnastics deeply rooted in people with the only intent of dehumanizing queer people. We need to push against these ghouls and creeps projecting all their depravity onto us.
That would be really useful actually. From what I know Spanish speaking diaspora media are quite conservative, so a more progressive perspective that can reach Spanish speaking people would be much needed
i'm sure it'd be very useful, if you manage to get enough viewers. that type of content is very much needed, and the amount of casual homophobia, transphobia and ableism in hispanic communities is one of the main reasons i stopped watching stuff in spanish a long time ago. i know it's time consuming and you might not end up doing it, but in any case i'm already subscribing to cheer you on ^.^
PLEASE DO!
please, people need people like you. especially now
Porfi
tbh, you can always tell when people actually care about CSA and when people are just looking for someone to hate by how prepared they are to engage with survivors. Everybody is comfortable saying abusers should be [insert horrible circumstance here], but extremely few people are interested in actually exploring what life is like for the people left behind after CSA occurs. Activism that focuses exclusively on the character of the former, ala groomer-obsessed weirdos, never ever overlaps with activism that focuses on the latter, and so it's people in the latter camp that imo should be signal boosted to counter the groomer hysteria. SAMSN in Australia is an extremely good support group that provides a lot of public education for that exact purpose.
I feel like a lot of supposed "advocates" are really quick to throw survivors under the bus if they don't align with certain expectations
this is an extremely important point.
It's because they don't actually care. They don't actually care about victims. In the same way that the guys who jump in discussion about SA in general and yell "But what about male victims" don't actually care about male victims, they only care about derailing the discussion. These people who scream about grooming only care about hating trans people or gay people.
Another thing about focusing on the kids is they have limited ability to speak out about what's actually a problem for them.
Yeah, they never actually ask the kids, do they? I'm gay and trans, and I came out when my kids were 5 and 2. So my kids and most of their friends were exposed to FTM transition over the next couple years. They asked questions, sometimes, but I never had a kid freak out.
The most confusion I ever got was a kid who lives down the street saying, "I thought boys couldn't have kids." I said, "Most can't, but trans boys can because they have baby-making parts."
She said, "Oh. That's weird."
Me: "Yeah. Lots of things are weird."
Her: "Right? One time my brother..."
That's it. Her mind wasn't shattered, she didn't become magically trans, she was just talking to her friend's dad at the bus stop.
I will forever find it weird that there were sooo many more states that allowed Child marriage (legal adult married to legal child) than states that allowed for Gay marriage (two consenting adults), and this was PRIOR to Gay marriage being federally legalized.
Isn’t it currently 40 states that allow child marriage now? Thats 40/50 states lol. Why don’t we talk about this more? Why isn’t this signal boosted to make these ppl look silly?
We all know the conservatives are the real threat to kids. Who’s trying to get rid of Segs Ed? Which side is forcing children to have babies? Which side is trying to get rid of contraception? Which side h8s the word “consent” and the concept of it? Who’s doing the book burning! Why aren’t we going on the offensive, because it’s clear to me who’s the real preds 😂!
The people agitating for making marriage between adult men and 8 year old girls obviously spend a lot of time imagining bedroom activities of those couples. It's not surprising their shadow sides bust out with accusations of "pedophile!!!" at intervals. Their own nature can be suppressed for only so long; eventually the pressure can't be contained; that's just how plumbing works. It's as solid as a confession. I can only assume the people who climb aboard their bandwagons are similarly afflicted with desire for children. I empathize with people who have to contend with those urges, but my sympathy dries up when their solution is to falsely accuse of others of acting out their own forbidden urges. Own up. Go to therapy. Don't shift your problems off onto people who already catch too much shiz just for existing and pretend they embody your kink.
As a straight-cis man, I really appreciate your perspective and your takes!
I'm a straight cis guy and I find this current groomer libel moral panic kinda terrifying....I can't even begin to imagine how troubling this is for queer people. Though my friends who are give me insight into that.
It's just so....demoralizing. I didn't see this coming. I remember 15 years ago feeling quite hopeful about the future...it seemed like the tide was turning on all sorts of progressive cultural issues. With the older generations slowly but surely waning away. How wrong I was...
First...in thinking we'd actually turned a corner. And second...in assuming younger people would inherently be more progressive than their parents. Life could be so....wonderful. And it's just really depressing (and boring!) how we waste so much time on these perennial moral panics. I fear it'll literally never end...
It’s hard. It’s so easy to get the impression that history is a steady stream of progress but it’s just not. Some Like It Hot would freak people out if it came out today but it was just seen as funny (there was some controversy but nothing like how people would act today, imo).
The UK's imported panic about drag queens makes zero sense. When I was 12, the Big Breakfast (one of the most popular and iconic morning TV shows of the 90's) heavily featured drag queen Lily Savage. I don't remember there being any outrage from conservatives at the time, and there was no sudden outbreak of child homosexuality or grooming either.
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Literally. There were British transphobes having a conniption over a drag queen being cast in Doctor Who, bemoaning that there hasn't been a "proper debate" about.. drag queens in entertainment? something the UK has done for decades if not centuries at this point?
Plus our centuries-old tradition of pantomime which is literally a drag show for kids/families!
MATT YOUR GUESTS HAVE BEEN 20/10! I SCREAMT! Let’s go Diva Up forreal!
I‘ve been obsessed with Crystal since DRUK because she’s been so outspoken and comfortable in her presentation, I genuinely cried when I saw she won the case, it is a win for everyone in the community
As a Tennessean, I WISH there were roving lesbian gangs roaming around. I’d join in a heartbeat.
Wow I can't believe I caught this. I am a young trans girl pre-transition and the stress of all kinds of accusations and stigmas really hurts.
Reminder to try your best taking care of your mental health and hopefully having a good support system.
@@Nickodemo1st this is my dad's account lol but yes
@@MiahTucker-vg9se lol I didn't even peep the user and photo
Can I ask you a genuine question?
Why is it that most trans girls try to look as traditionally feminine as possible in terms of their clothing, make up etc.?
You look gorgeous by the way. (Coming from a bi dude)
@@elmo4672 thank you I think it's because the stigma of not passing I'm pre transition and it's hard because I have to try harder. We shouldn't have to. I know plenty cis girls who don't care about beauty standards. Why should we have to worry to? I think it's because of the danger of not passing.
Theres also the profound coinage of the term "two-spirit", which was developed over a series of five conferences, concluding in 1990 at the Third Annual Inter-tribal Native American, First Nations, Gay and Lesbian American Conference in Winnipeg. These folks have Always been around, but new recognition
American Hysteria is one of my favorite podcasts. Glad to see both Crystal and Chelsey featured!
Same! I'm a big fan of American Hysteria. Didn't expect her to show up here!
When Matt introduced her and her face popped up it took me aback for a sec lol. Reminded me of that one time I googled all the various NPR hosts I'd listened to for years, but never saw. It was...discombobulating lol. But once the weirdness faded, I was like....actually yeah, this makes sense, I can see that face and that voice together >_
Dylan Mulvanney should sue Marjorie Taylor Greene for defamation.
I was thinking the exact same thing! Not just MGT, but everyone else who did the same.
Dylan mulvanney is the most patient and kind woman i have ever come across on the internet. she's amazing, i wish i could be half as strong as she is.
That’s the thing about the Uk though, their libel laws are extremely permissive. so even though this is obviously a win for us, those same laws have been used to shut down criticism of actual bigotry by the people who push it. The people who have the money to sue are usually the ones who would want to reinforce hegemonic beliefs.
So it’s really complicated but my point is that us libel laws would not allow for that type of suit, and both people involved are public figures so the bar of legal defamation is even higher
I remember my mom telling me about how I used to have a child sized green tellietubby stuffed toy when I was little while looking at photos from when I was younger, my dad threw it away without me knowing cause he was afraid it would turn me gay... well kinda flopped with that one.
But just the fear and constant need to keep up a little kids masculinity who's just starting to learn about the world is so sad.
I always look forward to this show. Matt is so well-informed, asks insightful questions, and has fantastic guests on that he actually lets speak on their respective topics.
I appreciate you pushing back on the "homophobes are also gay" trope, especially as someone who grew up in American christianity. There are plenty of other reasons for homophobes to disparage queer people. I've heard the "civilizational rot" line from a lot of End Times obsessed christians, for example. That being said, many of the most vitriolic, weirdly obsessive homophobes are indeed queer themselves. It's pathetic and sad.
I know Dave Thompson, the original Tinky Winky actor (I actually met him via John Simmit who played Dipsy), and from what he’s told me he was pretty much used as a scapegoat by production. Their excuse for firing him was that “his interpretation of the role was not acceptable”. In other words, “too gay”. I mean, the character design was pretty queer coded, so I don’t think Dave’s interpretation of the role would have made much of a difference 😂 He also said they told him to “camp it up”, so he spoke in a high pitched voice and production were happy with it. Then they changed their minds and dubbed over his lines using a voice actor with a deeper voice (yet he still sounded pretty campy in my opinion).
Ive never understood the backlash to men in drag in childrens entertainment in the UK since thats a bit part of panto which everyone would agree is entertainment for primary school children which even your tory would agree is good wholesome fun, despite the men in dresses and often very adult innuendo.
I'm a trans man, I'm gay, my husband is bi, and our 2 kids are...let me check...fine.
Our oldest just had her 10th birthday. It was at a roller skating rink and we had an ice cream cake. Is ice cream cake and roller skating a component of gay/trans indoctrination? Or was this a completely normal children's birthday party?
Preposterous! A completely normal(even exceeding expectations) childhood?!?!? This will not stand! 😂🫂
Sounds like a dreamy party
sounds like a grand ol' gay time to me!
Well now I want ice cream cake 😅 and it's 11pm
I had my 10th birthday party at a roller rink and now I’m gay… the numbers don’t lie
I'm actually halfway through watching RPDR UK Season 1 now. Yes, I'm behind but I just saw the episode where Crystal sashayed away. Considering I didn't see Crystal in a thumbnail or title. Im feeling synchronicity. Nice to see Crystal staying active in the community 🙂
I first heard of Laurence Fox through the TV show Lewis. Every time I see his face I am reminded with the 100s of gay fanfiction I read between his character and DI Lewis. It's my petty personal vengeance against him
I’m trans and watching these videos really helps me feel like I can connect with the history of our community in a way I haven’t experienced before. Thanks and keep it up
omg chelsea is so great! im so happy to hear her voice here, what a treat 🎉
My parents somehow still had a 1997 VHS of the Teletubbies that my younger brother used to watch all the time. Currently watching it with my son. All of the Teletubbies shared the pink tutu. Dressing up is fun! Dancing is fun! I maintain that the baby shows of the 90s were superior than the baby drug-like tv shows of today 😵💫
The series "Fellow Travellers" talks really interestingly about this lavender scare and this persecution of gay people during the cold war, and the aids crisis. I really recommend it to anyone who wants to learn more about it! (also Henry Cavill and Jonathan Bailey are starring, which should be enough for many people to watch it hahahaha)
OMG Chelsea is so on point she's giving me goosebumps out of excitement! I've been reading about Northern Mexico's conquest because I'm trying to work on historical fantastic fiction / horror, now due to the desertic nature of the zone and indigenous tribes being nomads we got very little information about them and their costumes BUT I've found that there were tribes here where you could see from time to time people of the same sex either doing tasks of the contrary sex or being a couple and some tribes admitted this and some don't.
Another note of these colonial times is that Spanish conquistadors (most certainly desperately poor or indebted sailors looking to find richness and lands because he couldn't afford them back home) required permissions and orders from either the king over Spain or the ever in conflict local governors to actually attempt to conquer pieces of land and in order to get those permissions spanish men and frays would make up testimonies of how the indigenous people were not just savages but often had "anti natural" tendencies of sodomy, and that granted them spanish men the power to conquer and evangelize these tribes or destroy them if they're too belligerent.
The fear/jealousy of degeneracy and outright "sodomy" have deep roots in colonialism too.
This was very a great discussion, but this was extremely US centric. I understand that Americans be Americans, but it feels extremely weird to talk about the "coming for your children" myth without even mentioning, say, Section 28 in the UK. It would also have been interesting to contrast the 2000s gay politics in the US versus the rest of the-at least western-world, for example gay marriage being legalized in some other countries much earlier or much later than in the US. I understand that it has to fit into an hour-long podcast and people can't be experts on everything, but it feels like not talking about the influence of what is happening elsewhere really misses a part of the puzzle. Americans might believe they are the center of the world, but their politicians do sometimes look at what is happening in the rest of the "western" world for inspiration.
hate is lazy, it takes strength in ones self to accept others
I have learned so much from your podcast!! I was raised by two intensely homophobic people so my baseline brain conditioning is definitely off on this topic. Learning the history of this stuff is really helpful.
I love you and your channel so much. I put your videos on and forget that there’s going to be an end. You find such captivating people to interview and you’re so articulate wonderful to listen to. Thank you for posting your amazing work ❤
i know fora fact that my group of friends in small town mid America was not exclusively hetero. and that was the early 00s. no queer agenda then. its almost like so many of us were just assumed to conform to a strict hetero style even if we were in the end bi or pan. im so glad to have heard the one of my catholic school peers was married to her wife
31:57 - wow. So powerful and so true. "When you become a victim, you can tell yourself that you have the right to respond to your victimhood with whatever you believe to be an equal if not greater defense (which often is actually an offense) because the threat is not really there." I think about the effects this mass hysteria and "intolerance" has and how it directly leads to violence. This concept can also be applied to the genocide in Palestine as well. Thank you for talking about these issues!!
So excited to learn about this topic and watch during my lunch time. Thanks Matt 😇💖💖
I really loved this episode! I thought I knew a decent amount of gay history, but there was so much in this that I had never heard before. This has quickly become one of my new favorite channels, and I hope you keep up the great work! And thanks to Chelsey for incredibly insightful and delightfully funny!
It's nice to listen to someone who can illuminate the through line of these conspiracies and show how they morph over time.
Thank you.
knowing even one LGBT person in my youth was enough to make me realize the inhumanity in my indoctrination
o m f g i just realized that some of the slurring of the native americans being like savage or whatever bs was possibly in part of their gender inclusivity
I love you and your work, but I really dislike this call to action that's "do nothing and wait." It's feeling like the It Gets Better campaign without the campaign part.
Defeatism is the last thing we need given the upcoming elections. Unfortunately, many progressives/ on the left are super dispirited to the point of not voting at all, and this can and probably will cost us the election .. which will have serious implications for lgbt rights. Look up Project 2025.
Matt I'm so glad you're doing this show, I get so excited whenever a new one shows up on my feed!
This is the crossover I’ve been waiting for!!
Loved this episode! Chelsea - the way you spoke about the beginnings through colonisation, completely clicked in my brain. I think that’s such an incredible way to show that all struggles are linked. I’m not great with words so I hope that makes some kinda sense. Anyway, thank you both!! ❤️
Crystal was fav of mine during UK S1. Loved seeing her on the show.
What a great episode! All three of you are such engaging speakers.
i literally screamed when i heard chelsea was on the pod, i love american hysteria, this was a wonderful surprise💖 loooove your videos matt, thank you for all your work!!
huge huge fan of Chelsea and I am so happy to see you speak with them!
Thanks for the bit on Puritans I've thought about this before but you put it so much better than I ever could; I remember saying to a mate "no wonder the US turned out like it did it started with Puritan loons" (obviously there were already populous there but you know what I mean)
❤❤❤❤❤❤every new episode is my favorite. this kinda knowledge and history is my FAV. thank you so much! also thank you to Chelsey for the note about NDN queerness in "america" before the puritans.
Thank you, Matt, for explaining plainly why people opposed to queerness choose to dehumanize (well f*g said) them. Jesus they're basic. And thank you for bringing these guests, it was very interesting and well delivered throughout
Another great episode, and roster of guests.
Two of my favorite humans!!!! Incredible episode!! ❤
Looooved this episode. So fascinating
So grateful for this info!
Absolutely loved this episode ~
Great episode 👍
Omg all your videos deserve millions of views
I am very grateful to Matt and his guests, I learn a lot about queer cultures. Thanks a lot !
Learned a bunch. The Senate twink episode was a bummer. That kind of first is a senator's privilege. When it comes to Drag Story Time and I'm down with any experience that helps kids become less bigoted. Africana, Ethnic. Feminist, alternative Economies, Civics. Bring it all.
amazing episode! I learned so much! Would love if you talked to Liv Agar about stuff maybe?
I love Chelsey Weber-Smith!
Thanks for this great discussion. The story about Bill O'Reilly is crazy. I wonder if he had been reading Diane DiMassa's comic Hothead Paisan: Homicidal Lesbian Terrorist. The mind boggles;-))
thank you, the "pilgrims" were not freedom seekers, they wanted to oppress in their own way and were run out of Europe because of it
what an exciting surprise for Chelsea Weber Smith to pop up!
We have pantomime in the UK at Christmas for families and i can’t do a better description than quoting this from Wiki:
"Traditionally performed at Christmas and afterwards, with family audiences, British pantomime continues as a popular form of theatre, incorporating song, dance, buffoonery, slapstick, cross-dressing, in-jokes, topical references, audience participation, and mild sexual innuendo.[46] Scottish comedian Craig Ferguson, in his 2020 memoir, summarizes contemporary pantomime as classic folklore and fairy tales loosely retold in a slapstick theatrical comedy-musical, writing: "Think Mamma Mia! featuring the Three Stooges but with everyone's back catalogue, not just ABBA's", and furthermore including audience participation reminiscent of showings of the film The Rocky Horror Picture Show.”
we had visits to see pantomimes paid for by school, including hiring the bus.
omg earlyyyy. hi matt!
love love this
wait gays are recruiting? where do I sign up???
36:00 even soldiers in germany did drag during WW2
Ever one did
If I recall correctly, Seduction of the Innocent was written by someone progressive for the time...really giving a sense of how gay men were once seen.
Part me wonders if we should just lean into the accusations. Hell yes we're coming for the children, to make sure they don't grow up full of hate like their parents.
You guys talk about how moments of liberation are always followed by periods of repression but that wont always be the case. We will ultimately win and bring history to an entirely new epoch in which right wing ideology and oppression have been literally abolished
LOVE YOU CRYSTAL ❤️❤️❤️❤️
Superb
Shoutout Crystal frick yeah
Chelsea looks so much more queer than i imagined them lol.
Thanks
Looking back at the Tinkie Winkie thing, I am definitely glad that there's more LGBTQ representation on kids shows and movies now which is something I wish I had growing up. Sure, there's still backlash to it from both sides, but the acceptance and representation is growing.
As a kid, there were some kids at my school that weren't allowed to watch certain TV shows, play certain video games, read certain books etc, Harry Potter and violent video games being the most common. However there was this one girl that wasn't allowed to watch a show on Cartoon Network called "Hi Hi Puffy Ami Yumi" because the main characters were super affectionate to each other and acted a whole lot like a lesbian couple, and the same girl wasn't allowed to watch The Doodlebops because the parents thought it was "gay brainwashing." Like what..?
We still have a loonnnnnng ways to go until the straights finally come together to accept us. I hope that time comes soon enough. 😢
what would a vodka Tang mix taste like? probably death via vacuum of space
Hi Matt, please consider buying a teleprompter for like $100. It would dramatically improve your videos because we want to see your face when you're speaking! Just a suggestion. Thanks for your videos and the work that goes into them.
Fredrick wortham: what zero bussy does to a mf
It's true if we're being literal. Every adult is someone's child and there's lots of people coming for them, it's called flirting look it up 😆
I envy every single person who looks at the issues trans people face from an outside perspective, it must be such bliss
Yeah we're covering all of this in my diversity and inclusion general education requirement class. It's as though they were just waiting for Frank Kameny to die to start a whole new round of bullshit antics. Anyone feel like dedicating _their_ whole life to this battle instead of getting to utilize their Ph.D. in astronomy? Cause we need a new Frank.
You refer to Anita Bryant as an activist but thats a contradiction. We (leftists) are activists, right wingers are literally reactivists.
sometimes i'm convinced the alt-right isn't real. me and my secondary school friends used to call tinkiwinki a queer british icon as a joke.
What is on the cap of the guest? Is it 'Drag Time'?
I always had the mentality that when someone wants to put you down they will always say the harshest thing. Because of this, ppl who call me a pedo for being gay, I just see them as wanting a reaction.
We can handle this in a few ways, fight back (which makes us look bad out of context) or ignoring the haters (while still ensuring we are advocating for ourselves).
We need more Harvey Milks and less TikTokers advocating for us.
73:49 A brand new show: "Don't say gay" with Ron DeSantis
I’ve been called a groomer just for supporting my Trans partner
I guffawed at "Homintern" but fr let's make this a thing unironically.
Kid Thoughts of media that was non drag w adult themes
Spongebob Mr.Krabs: DEBAUCHERY!!!
Me to mom: What's Debauchery?
Watching Mulan
Whats a crossdresser? Whats a concubine?
Watching Sailor Neptune & Sailor Uranus interacting
Thats not how I act around my cousin, they are awfully close with each other
Powerpuff Girls Lobster Devil Tutu Villain
I don't think him is a him...well...completely...maybe partially, I'm unsure.
Characters and their sensual behavior
Chel in El Dorado
Eris in Sinbad
Jasmine in Alladin
Esmerelda in Hunchback of Notre Dame
Jessica Rabbit
These were all gay awakenings. These examples can be and even are more sexual than drag stuff as far as child appreciation shows.
Some drag shows are PG and some aren't but ultimately parents choosing to take their kids there is their choice same as drag story time it's their choice to go.
DIVA UP
#conservativesarethegroomers