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Best Legendary Commander Order [Updated] Rise of Kingdoms 2023 Method
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- Updated Legendary Commander Investment order for new players in Rise of Kingdoms (ROK) so that you've got an amazing lineup when you get to the end-game (season of conquest)
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0:00 Why this matters
2:08 Museum drives the order
3:30 Wheel + MGE Commanders
10:03 Gold Key Commanders
13:11 VIP Commanders
14:28 Three March Configuration
21:54 Four March Configuration
23:04 Five March Configuration
25:10 Charles Martel
26:16 Talent Builds
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IN ORDER TO 5511 BOUDICA AND SCIPIO, YOU ONLY NEED 380 UNIVERSALS TOTAL + 10 sculptures each to unlock. IT SEEMS SUPER ACHIEVABLE TO ENTER SOC AND USE 5511 BOUDICA YSG, MINA 5511 MEHMED, AND 5511 SCIPIO PRIME AETHEL as a low spender (even if mina is not expertised). subscribe with notifications turned on so you don't miss the next vid!! discord.gg/chisgule
What about guan yu , mine is 5-1-1-1 , should i abandon him for Scipio?
I enjoy your content and I appreciate that you’ll occasionally try to cover f2p/low spender perspective but here you are missing the mark on one huge factor and that is equipment. Now things may be different in lower seeded kingdoms, but as I’ve only been in A or higher (closing in on 2 yrs playing and low spender) I can easily say I would not be trotting out 4 or 5 marches anytime soon, and really only field 2 atm. And archers aren’t part of the mix and have moved on from even the thought. They are slow and get focused, resulting in massive hospital bills. Scipio/Alex isn’t as good as guan, but the speed is great and Nevsky with whoever is fantastic. When I can finally get gear I’ll have Saladin/William as the best 5551 pair in the game. It’ll be a while till that happens and ages before I could field another pair with decent gear. You also don’t talk about all the rss and speedups you’d require for healing all those marches
I have to disagree with your Saladin assessment.
In MGE the lower rewards follow:
26-35th place is 3 Saladin heads
36-45th place is 2 Saladin heads
46-50th place is 1 Saladin head
There are (last I played) 6 chances to get Saladin. As long as you place a combination that lands you with 10 heads after six attempts you get a top-tier 5551 commander. Museum buffs for Saladin are also coming so at 380 sculptures I would rank Saladin even higher than the must expert 690 gold head Alex.
What about Scipio + Guan Yu instead of Alexander?
@@kalaristimere4426 I'm not quite sure what your question is but unless you have Scipio there is no reason to expert Guan Yu. 5155 and he is done.
Scipio needs all of his skills so long story short Guan Scipio combo is a 1400 sculpture investment.
The museum buffs really are one of the best things Lilith has done for the past 12 months.
I'd say in the last 3 years lol
But still interestingly enough, there going to pump out new op highly op damage commanders that would make these museum buffs irrelevant
Agreed
Videos like these made me come back to the game after a 1.5 year hiatus! Glad you also mentioned that new archer commanders should be coming soon. I'm hoarding sculps to see if they would be better than boudica - if not then I can safely invest in boudica without any regrets.
I have 500 gheads for archer
I have been playing RoK for 18 days now and you and your channel have helped so much, i haven't wasted any gems, i have 15,000 ready for my first wheelspin, i haven't put any universal heads in my Ragnar or Mulan. I wouldn't be anywhere near the level i am now if it wasn't for your guides and tips, thank you
Don't focus too much on wheel spins. Put gems into VIP during more than gems event. VIP 10,12 then 14 offer so much value over time than max spinning a wheel
Hello newbie use it for vip dud
One of the best videos you have dropped in a while. Thank you this is awesome
The early game has already been figured out for the most part:
1. Infantry Bjorn + Sun Tzu until YSG is available. Then run Sun + YSG (work on expertising him)
2. 5111 Richard for LK barb chaining
3. Hoard every GH after YSG expertise until SOC unless you're a midspender+
Mehhh.... I think this is like 90% accurate. I would only add Alex to the mix as well. Then hoard. Alex is still a pretty decent secondary, and the shield is good in a murderball
Edit: OK, yeah, you're right for f2p. You could probably add him if you're picking up woh packs in the early game though
Alex for guan yu pairing in soc, dont pick ysg. Useless in soc
@@blood_ackerman6190 So what would be the archer march people should work on in your opinion? And don't say archers are useless.
@@GrowmietheGreen People can run a 5511 Alex and exp YSG and do well in open field for kvk1-3 and then hoard for SoC. But Alex is one of those who just works best when expertised.
@@blood_ackerman6190 that’s just not true, YSG is very useable in SoC
As a new player, I really appreciate how you explain everything so clear!
Thanks Chisgule! I'm pure f2p and learned a lot from your videos!
I kind of wish Lilith gave everyone who started prior to kvk being a thing, the ability to get all the universal sculpts we used, back. I spent a stupid amount on gold key commanders because I didn't have a concept the insane amount of commanders were going to be released
This is exactly what I wanted as I am entering to SOC kvk soon. Thank you for the video, Chisgule :)
If the next Archer could be a combination of YSG & Artemisia it’d be a win
Rush vip 10 , and just save for SOC , if you are cav focused get saladin , if you are infantry focused get Alex and if you are archer focused get ysg and tommy .
After this you save your gold heads .
I used those three marches in the last kvk before the museum update. scipi + aeth . nevsky + mehmed . boudica + ysg
For alex I would advise that if players can expertise Alex before kvk3 they should if not just use Sun/Ysg and save for soc
I love this, this was so informative and I needed help with all this cause I get so damn confused with it all lol thank you 🙏🏻
CHISGULE, thank you for this video. I started an kvk1 acc meanwhile my SOC acc is between kvk's.
Our jump group has tons of questions about commander's to invest.
Now I just say them to watch this.
I expertised 3 legendary commanders in 1 year,, CM,YSG,ALEX and richard 5511,,, key is gem farming and getting to vip 14 as fast as possible so i get around 1.1k heads per year from vip alone
keep the newer player videos coming please, just got out of kvk1 still yearning for updated information
Sculpture velocity is a huge factor when it comes to investments. VIP level, gems gathered, events participated, ranking in power up/speedup events, Ark etc. F2P and low spenders are lucky if they can expertise YSG by the end of kvk1 where as mid, high spenders already have YSG expertised by the 1st wheel of fortune. If F2P, low spenders want Alex expertised, they'll have to avoid putting sculpts on YSG and invest in Alex and then hoard again. So by SoC, invest heads into Scipio Prime and use Alex secondary with good equipment since infantry is the most preferred troop type for kvk1-3.
Yeah sculpture velocity is so important it’s not unreasonable to completely skip ysg. Especially if you plan to make several cav and in marches prior to archer marches
Might be unpopular opinion but I prefer to expertise YSG over Alex. I know people like to recommed infa for F2P/low-spenders than archer but to me the later has better equips and easier to collect, I mean Revival set is so good while you temporarily waiting for its legend set. I've been using Kusu/YSG in KvK1-3, and get good trade. Of course you need to be smart in open field but damn YSG AOE is amazing. Now I'm waiting for Boudica Prime.
@@zaiminnosi2905 YSG is great. Like Chis said, you can use YSG for almost every PvE and PvP scenarios. A great all rounder comm. Having Alex has it's perks, like canyon or armasters lohar etc but in the end it's entirely upto the individual's preference.
@@zaiminnosi2905 ysg/alex 5511 is an exceptional early game archer march
Personally me and my friend ran 5511 cm with sun tzu for kvk 1-3, we are f2p. And he nearly got 200m kp and I don’t have nearly as much time to play so I got like 70m kp, but we hoarded all our sculpts so now we have loads for mega comms
Been waiting for a minute for this new version! Thanks Chisgule
Thaaanks alot for finally doing 3,4,5 marchs configurations that was I wanted all the time .. ❤
Awesome video, great value in advice! Now we have to figure out how we get that through the Time Machine and restart my early game builds… 😂
Thanks for always saucing it up. Shout out to you.
Did anyone else see that relic coins are no longer rewards for troop training in pre kvk and now we only get 20 a day. It would take 3 months now to upgrade a single commander
thers no new player in this game, go in a young kd, 90% are building new acc cause nothing to do after kvk and harrasing very new player wich are quiting the game after couple days 😂😂
Chis, youre the man bro..... thanks for another good one 💪🏻💪🏻💪🏻💪🏻
Please test Hera anti-swarm. It’s his most important feature and you didn’t even consider it on your tests.😢😢
Are we gonna ignore Richard had full legendary talented icon gear?
Wow thanks chisgule now I have a future plan
i'd say for f2p infa = alex. archer = ysg. cav = saladin. ysg is only good in canyon and chaining if youre not archer main. f2p takes forever to expertise 1 commander so choose wisely
Besides Mina moto any other surprise museum buffs that really strengthen any of the other comanders ??? Video on it maybe ??
Check new imperium kingdom 2755 there is 2 players that are 400m power
I actually got Leo, and Constantine for free from the new legendary tavern, and here are my main three marches: Richard Martel, Constantine leo, and guan Scipio.
I just had a blasty blast on my alt this KvK with 5551 Boudica/5555 YSG, 5511 Nevsky/5511 Joan, 5111 Guan/5511 Scipio, 5511 XY/5511 William. Almost all purple gear.
Very good, thank you
I kindly disagree about some investments, but I would like to ask also a gear guide that fits your sugestions. There are some sugestions about minimum gear to fight soc at YT, but I don't think it's possible for a f2p or low spender to make 3 of them by the first soc.
Your change of preference from prioritizing Alex to prioritizing Yi seong just says that we can prioritize any because lilith can change any buffs.
He was missing Thutmose from the Museum... Sad haha
When chisgule says "baby" it makes me feel like I should be one of his commanders and be paying him gold heads 😂
Hera + jadwiga in your wall comms. Noice!
First
I love you Chis bro, Yoda, baba and other whales are strong by power but you are stronger than them all! Best content creator bro! Keep up the good work❤
Can I use Mimamoto together with Caesar?
Our kingdom is going season 4. Ang currently im a low spender in cavs main. I have sladin at 5551 and khan 5551, what are the best choice for soc cavs to pick. Nevsky or william? Dont have enough GH to pick both though so i need to pick 1 of them first. Thanks
Could you post a link to what you are referring exactly? You are saying "this is not a perfect end game arrangement" at the 5 marches configuration part. But it would be nice to know how you would develop this configuration to an endgame arrangement.
Richard... #1 Barb chain farm commander .. highly recommend for f2p
In my case it has to be Boudica then Scipio instead of a cav march.. because my Mehmed is only at 5211.. so I rather put in Aethel and YSG which are both expertised.. I'm only 2 days away from ending kvk 3 so I think having those 2 first is the best call for me..
We need a video about the new commanders in the daily cheats , what is the good in the soc and whaat the order should be .
I love you Chis bro, Yoda, baba and other whales are strong by power but you are stronger than them all! Best content creator bro! Keep up the good work❤
Lmao.....
😔😅😅😅
Thanks for the video! What do you think of Joan + William?
Ever consider making a guide on best marches to get the best kill points possible? Because I don’t want to spend my gold heads on subpar commanders for subpar results
Check out my legendary commander tier lists
Very helpful video for f2p, thanks chis!
Commanders and armaments aren't enough, you need equipment, which is why it will take me about 6 months into soc to get boudica ysg into the field. I have no archer equipment.
Chisguile, does museum relics are effective even if the commander will not be used as primary but secondary? thanks!
U are legend!!
Should have recommended to 5111 Richard, good for chaining and very good / only tank you have access to for f2p kvk1, it's so cheap to 5111 richard it won't hinder progress to expertising ysg at all.
A question: does the museum buff apply only to the primary commander or it doesn't matter if the buffed commander is primary or secondary?
it doesn't matter being primary or secondary, museum buff works for both
@@sugihonotjandra2296 Thank you. Is there some way to check these buffs apllied? Some stats showing them stacked...
@@scassiorocha when you duel or even barb check the battle report. The relics will show up for any comm u have relics on. It does indeed work for primary and secondary. When you pull up you battle report then go to troop buffs you can even click the relic to see if it is single or double relic
Do you have any videos or could you make one for epic commanders to invest in for first time players
Dumb question as I am new but if you do spend on gems if you spend over the recharge amount that gets you bonus items does that overage carry over to the next recharge amount?
Nice video ❤
what commanders should I upgrade I don't understand I'm not playing in modes want to defend my city and attack others
Chis i am a 100% f2p and already playing for a bit more than a year i think. I have 5 open field marches,Nevski/William, XY/Joan, Guan/Scipi P, Boudicca/YSG, and Honda/Tomy. Most of them are at 5111, but it works great and i get good results, also against T5 (i only have T4 troops).
I am thinking about to switch out the Honda/Tomy with commanders like Saladin, Trajan, Cyros and Mehmet because it is so damn slow, but right now it works great. I have multiple commanders at the side where i invested sculptures in, but i can say that you as a 100% f2p can achieve the same goals as a light or medium spender, if you are online 2-4 hours a day.
There are people in Canyon who have full maxed legendary commanders and equipment sets on, and i am winning against them. I dont know how, but i am always in the top 20-50 ranks of my kingdom (and we have a lot of spenders).
The only thing you need to do is unlocking level 10 VIP as fast as possible to get a golden head every day, and saving gems for wheel of fortune!!
Some of the MGE commanders can you optain in the legendary tavern and from the hearts desire event, so you also need to save gems for those! But you are not going to use most MGE commanders anyways.
The only thing i want now is a good garrison. Of course as it should be with every f2p my garrison right now is Martel/YSG, but i want something better.
I have unlocked Theodora and YSS, and can obtain Jadwiga or Zeno in a few days from legendary tavern.
I think i will take the Jadwiga and pair her with Heraclius. Jadwiga with the damage against rally boost, and Heraclius against swarm. Most high spenders have a garrison against every troop type and one against swarm, but i think with Jadwiga/Heraclius i can get both things at the same time.
And Jadwiga will boost Heraclius Skill Damage (I am cav player anyways, working on expertising my Nevski right now).
Honda is not so great as a primary and when you go against people who know you will be targeted. Idk what people are doing in your canyon but it is ALWAYS better to have fewer marches skilled correctly than 5111 anything. You may get some kills but your hospital bill is going to be outrageous playing this way. Not saying this to be rude but your wasting rss on marches like this
@@Mila-gx1dg Most of the time i only have 3 marches outside the city, only if we have problems i will take all marches out. I made 5 marches because of several events, for example the Kau Karuaks Trial. You need many marches there, and some legendarys on 5111 are better than full maxed epics
This would be better if you have a chart or list to show.
I’ve played for about 4 years now, and I’m working on Nev Exp followed by Joan, should I get YSG expertise or work on other Prime commanders?
27:03 i go for cage of thorns for my scipio prime (4th march) and pair him with aethel. on paper its gonna be good, but always getting targeted on field :(
I wish we had a system where you get your gold heads back on commanders you don't want anymore
Not sure if you'll see this, but here I go. I have a bit of a unique situation for my account. I'm currently in Season 3 of KVK (actually in the Nephisto KVK, love from 2804 BTW, but I'm not taking part as I only have only 1,000,000 power). I have no expertised epics, and my highest level legendary (Charles Martel) is level 34. I am missing all commanders that aren't gold key commanders, except YSG. Actually, I don't even have all gold key commanders yet. I have three pieces of equipment currently as of writing this (all white rarity, whatever that is called). I have no armaments. I've recently become a T3 player. I have 10k gems and 20 something universal legendary sculptures. I'm also, as you might've guessed, completely f2p. So, I guess, what do I do? Is it worth staying in my kingdom, and just invest in newer, better commanders? Or do I migrate backwards? (Sidenote: all of this is because I took a massive break from the game as a result of thinking that I'd never get Constantine (who is really the reason why I play the game)).
Good investment, thanks bro
Thanks , I have XY 4324 do you advice me to expertise him , thanks again .
Nice
when u say skip richard do u mean just not get him at all? im f2p 21 days in with 45k gems as of now.
But what, if i am a calvary player ? Who is the best calvary ( legendary ) commander ?
So do I focus on martial too or not? And will he help In kvk? (I am f2p)
Good video
Does relics count for your march if its not primary?
Is 5551 alex better to with scipio or 5511 Mehmed with the relic daddy chis
Chisgule, would you say that boudica with YSG is better then boudica with Henry in the open field?
Me watching this as low spender nah I'm going for saladin lol
Is it possible to use minamoto primary with 5511 joan secondary? I don't want to invest the stars to get her to level 60 since she'll be a secondary commander once I get nevsky and I already have minamoto at 60
Hello
I posted this on reddit but nobody is answering, im currently in kvk1 with 19 days left, vip10 running cm 5511 + expert sun tzu. i have 88 gh currently, should i skip alex? and wait for soc with my cm sun tzu or is it worth it to get cm+ alex both of them 5511 or expert alex for kvk2 to kvk3?
So better to use unexpertised commanders and more marches than less marches with expertised commanders?
should I expertise YSG in sezon of concuest If I have him at 5511
Chisgule do you think YSG is better than Boudica? You mentioned new archer could replace Boudica, not YSG 😳
La mejor marcha de infantería en campo abierto sigue siendo guanyu con scipion prime ?
which was better to use scipio 5551 with guan 5111 or martel 5511
Thanks for the great content Chisgule as always, the video is quite clear, my question is though regarding equipment and the priority against having 5 marches. If I’m a low to mid spender and I got the 3 marches for soc, should I focus on legendary equipment for them or focus more on getting the 5 marches that would be without legendary equipment? So which should I delay if I had to choose between the 2?
Thanks so much
You’re the best
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bro im not chisguile but i know enough about the game to suggest not to use a full epic equipment marches they only gonna increase ur hospital bill, 3 good legendary eqip marches are better.... But if u have nearly unlimited rss and skips it doesnt matter and u can use 5 march,, but if u wanna get best trades and least hospital bill use 3 march that u have
@@subodhsukumar4680 very good
Thanks man
so when exactly this new archer commander?
I have a question would xy Joan be a good rally pair ?
What are the best commanders for an older player?
How did he turn epic commanders into legendary?
chandra is a good investment ??? for my second march of calvary ???
I am in soc and have 5511 Alex what should I do with him
Please do this but for equipment! Please 🙏
Man don’t think I could restart, especially with commanders
wait, so do i put my universal sculptures into Aethelfled?
Stopped playing ROK after kvk1 and returned recently because I been keeping up with Chisgule's videos and got interested again. My kingdom is now in SOC and so far, I've been trying to catch up to the players I left to take a break and these are what I'm currently having?
Scipio prime 5511
Nevsky 5511
Joan prime 5111
Alex 5551
YSG 5511
Mehmet 5511
Charles 5511
Aethelfled expertise
Saladin 5511
Guan yu 5111
Boudica prime 1111
Currently working to expertise scipi prime then Nevsky before going for boudica and others. I'm inbetween low-mid spender.
Would appreciate any input and insight about how to optimize my build up.
Stop spreading out investments. Make a commitment to one commander then move onto the next.
@DarkCh1p Yea, thanks.
Exactly how I'm currently investing sculptures.
Hey Chisgule, I was going to message you on discord, did you try out Total Battle? I have a massive account and I can teach you how to use your resources
I haven't played - planning to go big into call of dragons in the next week!
My hope is the new archer will have circular AOE to replace YSG not Boudica & be a better pair for Boudica since YSG is harder to max in SoC
If people are in SoC and still haven't expertised YSG then they should forget about him at that moment. He's either an expertise or skip. Nothing in between. They are better off working on Artemisia to pair with Boudica and they have great synergy. But yeah new archer comm may blow both Art and YSG out of the water lol.
Hello Chis better Nevsky/cc or Nevsky/mehmet ??
I saw your account in kvk 2 inside KD 2922 camp please is that you