I must say after watching many of these videos there is a stark difference between the debating students in these early ones vs the ones being made today/last 10 years. These early ones seem to have more interesting points and articulate them more clearly, though Cliffe still handles them with ease. The modern students seem more emotional and stubborn in their views/arguments.
Wow. The very first thing he said about Jesus being free from sin, absolutely perfect, deserving our every ounce of respect? Chills running down my spine. Amen! We love you Jesus!
And the bitter, bigoted, God hating troll Jason shows up as usual, making his little assertions while providing no argument whatsoever. It is just what he does. Shows up religiously. Poor boys got a burr under his butt... 🙏
@@SPPACATR WHEW! MR CLIFF KNOWS HIS BIBLE HISTORY AND IF THE GENTLEMAN DOES NOT HAVE BELIEF IN JESUS CHRIST AFTER RECEIVING THE MANNA FROM MR CLIFF AS TO THE LIFE, DEATH AND RESURRECTION OF JESUS CHRIST THEN HIS FREEWILL SETS GOD’S ULTIMATE JUDGEMENT UPON HIMSELF BY HIS OWN HAND!
The theme music is so 90's. Brings back such nostalgia. I love it. And we get to here very philosophical conversations about our Lord Jesus Christ. Even better
I felt so encouraged when he called the disciples whimps because I tend to forget that they were actually human.i feel much better now.God bless you cliffe!
I’m going to have to listen for the context to that statement because the disciples were certainly NOT wimps. Some of them displayed wimpy behavior at times but over all the were the most courageous and devoted men in history. All of them except for John faced horrible deaths for their belief and dedication to Jesus Christ.
Cliffe, you are really something else. I cannot believe you have been able to take these kind of verbal onslaughts for so many years. God bless you, Sharon, & family.
@@robertmitchell-tv5yf He has a special approach where he reasons with the students in a logical and rational way. He does bring up issues that are written in the Bible on a regular basis in his talks like in this video. I think it is a talent to be able to speak with worldly people in a reasonable way while staying Biblical in your conversation. Some people have nothing but Bible verses in their talk but people do not talk to them very long because they get annoyed by that.
In all probability it seems reasonable to assume that someone like Theo Skeptical and others like him who are also misled, are probably Satanists but pretending it not to be one. These are a most interesting bunch. Some actually do believe in God. However their agenda is to do all they can to thwart the purposes of God. It’s certainly a madness of types. But their rebellion against God gives them power. And because they so enjoy this power, they are so delusional that they think that Satan will ultimately be victorious and prevail against God. Like I say. It’s a madness.
@@fishjj76 Twice? That's crazy because I've read it multiple times from Genesis to Revelation for over 7 years and I'm still learning more about God's Word, Character and Will.
Young Cliffe was a FREAKING SAVAGE 🤣. AMEN brothers and sisters in Christ our Lord and God bless brother Cliffe Knechtle's Apologetics ministry and you ALL 🙏❤️👊. It's obviously not the burden of proof for believers but God Himself to meet the burden of proof which He has for us Christian theists despite what Atheists claim are just unsupported claims. This has nothing to do with the video but please listen if you want to otherwise leave it alone and ignore it. Hello my name is Justin and I'm a Christian and Apologist but I'm also a college student. I'm not a closed minded Theist as I have nothing against Atheists or unbelievers as I speak to them often to understand their reasons for unbelief but we as Christians are convinced of God's Existence due to many real factors). I'm not trying to convert anyone or convince anyone to become Christians as that's The Holy Spirit's job to help people believe but only explain why I believe in Jesus Christ. There's actually evidence of God's Existence in Christianity. First of all there's proof that Jesus of Nazareth existed in history since the writings of Tacitus, Josephus Flavius, Pliny the younger and other historical documents prove that He was living two thousand years ago that even scholars both religious and Atheists agree with historically speaking but not that He's The Divine Son of God because obviously they don't. I'm going to give you historical and archeological evidence for God's Existence as The Scriptures have prophecies that predate the events recorded in them by several millennia including Matthew, Hosea and Zechariah which prophesy accurately of the people of Israel becoming a nation again after over 1900 years of being scattered around the nations since the destruction of the Temple in Jerusalem in 70 A.D. spoken of by Christ in Matthew 23:29-24:3 and returning to their homeland after The Holocaust with Jerusalem as their capital in 1948 exactly as Jesus The Christ said. The prophets including Daniel spoke of the time where several world empires would arise and fall including the Babylonian kingdom, Medes and Persians, Roman Empire, and Saladin and the Muslims which went in consecutive order for the past few millennia. The people of Israel becoming a nation after The Holocaust in 1948 (ironically the melting point of gold as God compares Israel to gold that's tested in fire in Zechariah 13:8 and Jeremiah 16:15) exactly how Jesus The Christ said would happen since God us everything to come in The Scriptures and not just because people were working towards as Atheists claim which are impossible for any regular man to predict. Just before anyone says Christianity is a white man's religion made to oppress blacks during slavery you obviously aren't aware that the first Christians were Jews in The Middle East and that Christianity just like any religion can be used by evil and corrupt people to oppress others but you forget that the first Abolitionists/Civil Rights activists were Christians who sought to abolish slavery, racism, segregation, injustice and prejudice throughout American history. Jesus The Christ loves you enough not to give you what we all deserve which is God's Wrath by His Own Blood. Charles Darwin didn't originally come up with The Theory of Evolution over 200 years ago as it is mentioned in the writings of Ancient Greeks who believed in Demons that gave knowledge to philosophers. Evolution makes no sense when nothing has evolved after thousands of years of human history and supposedly the first creature came from primordial sludge several millions of years ago funny how they won't believe that God an Eternal Almighty Spirit Being created us from the Earth) which came from a supermassive expansion of matter at high temperature that inexplicably created everything in the known universe that supposedly came from nothing billions of years ago. How did the organs evolve before there were bones, skin, substance and how did any creatures see before eyes evolved? I've studied evolution and abiogenesis in the past and read Darwin's " Origin of The Species" I've studied evolution and abiogenesis in the past and read Darwin's " Origin of The Species" and I'm not convinced of but not macro or micro Evolution because there's no evidence of it nor clear observable examples of it where living creatures evolve into other kinds of species plus the fact that fossils don't show evidence of evolution and genetic entropy rules out evolution. The question begs how did two genders evolve from a common ancestor with a perfectly hospitable and sustainable environment with breathable oxygen and resources to survive on inexplicably? Atheists have the burden of proof to explain how everything came to be and why our existence is possible without the Existence of God from an godless perspective just as Christians have to provide evidence of God's Existence and the validity of His Word. Evolution requires life to already exist in order to take any effect in living organisms so it doesn't account for the existence of Life and reality. Also evolution is impossible because it goes against The Law of entropy and the second Law of thermodynamics because evolution makes things better whereas nothing continues to get better but decays and turns to absolute destruction in the end. Mark Ridley an Evolutionist said "No evolutionist whether gradualist or punctuationist uses the fossil record as evidence in favor of The Theory of Darwinian Evolution as opposed to special Creation". God's Existence is made perfectly known and observable in the universe as demonstrated in His Handiwork in the intelligently designed manner that Creation was made, human consciences and consciousness historical and archaeological evidence of God's Word being valid history, fulfillment of Bible Prophecies God in His Holiness and Righteousness could give us what we deserve in Hell for our since but He's merciful to give us free will to choose to accept or reject His gift of salvation by grace through faith in His Son Jesus. I don't mean this is any condescending manner but if you'd like to discuss The Scriptures with me or have me listen to your view on anything my instagram account is Savage Christian Kombatant.
Thanks for uploading. I use what you say to help my coworkers find God and I feel and see him tugging on their hearts. Thank you so much for everything you say. You are fighting the good fight keep it up we are out here fighting with you I promise!!!!!
The guy with the blonde-died hair seemed to have demons in those lifeless eyes 25 years ago. I hope at some point he did or will receive Jesus as his personal Savior in his one and only life.
For some reason the older guy that asked a couple of questions tugged on my heart. And I like that way you responded to him, I believe he was genuinely asking the questions that he didn’t understand on his own or that nobody really explained.
I’ve been listening to Pastor Cliffe for years and it still astounds me how much university students go out of their way to argue themselves right to the gates of hell! Obviously they can come back from there! Many know enough Bible to specifically quote some passages which leads me to think they were not prepared by family and or their churches to stand up to the professors and fellow students questions and they walked away……it’s sad that I’m looking at so many possible Tribulation Saints, that is if God has not hardened their heart to ever come back to Him!
// "many people know enough about the bible blah blah blah" // I recommend everyone read the bible its one of the main reasons I'm an atheist. I think it was Mark Twain that said.... _"It ain’t the parts of the Bible that I can’t understand that bother me, it is the parts that I do understand"_
@@trumpbellend6717 and yet your watching Pastor Cliffe! Mark Twain also said on the trip to Israel, that it was completely desolate with few people to be found! What was he looking for on that trip? As the Bible predicted in Isaiah 66.8, Ezekiel 37:21-22, that Israel would be born in one day which happened May 14th, 1948! Israel began to draw her people back and now they are the provider of most of Europe’s fruit and flowers! The land flourished with God’s hands behind it! Evidence is everywhere that the Bible is true! Jesus said many times; “Let those with eyes see, and those with ears hear’! Are your eyes and ears closed?
@@robertrettig7110 Yawn 🥱 the bible said _" can a nation will be born in one day"_ but technically EVERY NATION is born in a day. Was America not "born" in the day it signed the declaration of independence?? Is THIS "piffle supposed to justify belief in talking snakes and tribes of giants ? 🤭😂🤣🤣
@@robertrettig7110 // "Mark Twain also said on the trip to Israel that it was completely desolate with few people to be found. What was he looking for on that trip" // "PEOPLE" from the sound of it dear 🤭😂😍🤣😂😍😍
@@trumpbellend6717 Context! Mark Twain was a skeptic like you, went looking for answers in Israel….just like your watching Pastor Cliffe! It’s also amazing how people say there is no God, and I hate Him! You mock what you don’t understand, ridicule what you think you’ve read in the Bible. Why your crusade? Something is pulling at you and your fighting it!
"I love the look on some of Cliffes listeners faces, and the glow in their eyes, and you can see what Cliffe is teaching them, is the words of Jesus"! "I personally love listening and learning from Cliffe! "He's an atheist smasher" and "go ahead and try and refute him"! God bless you pastor Cliffe and Stuart and your ministry," with 🙏's and ❤!
Look in the mirror. You are not an accident. God created you and all other humans. The question is who is God? Cliffe is letting you know the Bible tells us.
@@Theo_Skeptomai Humans are told by God to spread the gospel to all nations and people. Matthew 28:19 Go therefore and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit,
@@Theo_Skeptomai Nope. God is totally unique and separate from the Universe (Space, time and matter). God has always existed in eternity. This universe has not always existed. The 'big bang' was God speaking the universe into creation/existence. Space, matter, energy, and time all began at the exact same moment because God chose to make it happen.
That kid at 10:55 is going to get the most rude awakening ever. I also did that to God, said all those things, and he flipped my entire life upside down, ripped the rug out from under me and beat me with the same rug I used to carelessly walk on. I pray God has mercy with that kid and uses kid gloves because when God goes bare knuckle it’s not pretty nor enjoyable. Best experience ever after the fact, but you’ll wish you were dead while he’s kicking the shit out of you righteously.
I like your allegory but the despair you received was never God beating you but it was him separating himself from your life as you wished it. I also asked God to step back and let me try it out alone. I grew up in pure sin and fell into despair from it. Once I found Jesus(he doesn't hide lol) and I laid my life down for him, I found my life finally knew peace and order. That's my experience.
I guess I was 55 at the time. Now I’m 75. I started my thinking journey at age 30 puzzling over why we do what we do. Got born again at age 40. But for a long time I couldn’t figure out why I loved a little 5 year girl who walked past my place every morning, going to school with her grandfather. I knew I loved her but why. Each day this little tot walked past with her grandfather who walked about 10 paces behind her. She was a little Holly Hobby type. She had on her little back pack and was leaning forward striding forth. I couldn’t really see her that well. She would be on the other side of the street going in the opposite direction. And as this Chinese infant with her old grandfather in tow walked past my place every morning, I wondered why I loved her. Why why why. What a puzzle. Answers in the beginning never came to me easily. But some years later I realised it was her obedience that made me love her. She was determined to be obedient. I will never forget that little girl who must be a grown women today of 25. Maybe married with her own family. But I am still blessing her. We don’t always realise how much we are loved and being blessed. But we know that God loves the obedient. But if God loves me as much as I loved that little Holly Hobby, that will do me. He knows I’m doing my best. And as my boyhood friend Mack, my greatly beloved dog, was fiercely loyal to me, I am fiercely loyal to God.
I think Cliffe's character, energy, the way he comes off, propagates civil discussion. When I first started watching, I was actually surprised about how calm and respectful everyone was. As you eluded to, a majority of videos I come across on campuses are much different.
yeah i noticed it to, they do ask the same sort of questions. but the students seem to recognise the error in their way of thinking when Cliff points it out to them.
All I have is the text Even those who saw Jesus were too sinful to realize it. Some believed but they stood by while an innocent was beaten, mocked, and murdered. We are those people, it would be no different today.
If you happened to be around at the time Jesus was being mocked as he made his way to the crucifixion site, seeing him carrying his cross, and you tried to save him, would you not be interfering in God's plan? God set all this up didn't he?
@@justingary5322 How do you go about determining what is true and what is not true Justin? ... this gets right to the heart of what Theo and others are asking. We have legitimate concerns. If what you believe is true, our eternal souls depend on it do they not?, is that a concern for you as a Christian in any way?
@@Theo_Skeptomai Human experience and study of human nature DUH OBVIOUSLY 🙄. Stupid questions Theo Skeptomai maybe you should be skeptical of your cynical approach
No Everyone knows the universal structure reveals objective values they just deny it based on their own subjective opinion instead of using the knowledge given to them by the universal structure
I highly respect this guy for his willing to answer, I Don't Know. Too many pastors & politicians, try to bullshit their way thru the hard questions instead if humbling themselves and admitting when they don't know something.
The fellow in the black jacket and sunglasses thinks his opinion is A LOT MORE important than it truly is!! HUMBLE YOURSELVES IN THE SIGHT OF THE LORD!!
6:02 As a white South African, speaking in relation to Apartheid, it is not about racial segregation, it is about a nation of people that wanted to rule over themselves. Despite other Africans being black I don't believe I am better then them because of my race but rather I want to rule over my people (the Boers) a black African should have the right to rule over their own people. As long as we are on Earth, there will be different Cultures, different people, but all will stand in front of God one day and be judged. I am a white South African Christian, this doesn't mean I will care less if a person is black, I love them just as much as I love myself. In showing my love, I care that they get to read the Gospels and tell others about the Gospels. I have more examples in Boers history of where this happened.
As a boy I wasn’t much good at anything. Pretty useless actually. I was one of those kids. But very good with my slug gun. I was dead last in class every single year of my life, which was a bit hard to take. It’s not easy being a dummy. Therefore I decided to become very successful at something. So I decided to become a troublemaker. In this I greatly excelled. But because I had a very pious mother whom I loved as much as my boyhood dog Mack, I now realise that I would have become a priest in order to please her. This would have happened if I had been good at my studies instead of always being in trouble. But if I had of become a catholic priest I would not know what I know today. At age 40, I’m now 75, I made the hardest decision in my life. I became a born again Christian. I never expected any lightening bolts or thunder claps. But to my surprise stuff happened, so much so that I came under great conviction. I knew God was on board. And in a semi tyrannical way I began to witness. How people reacted to me was interesting to say the least. I was something else, I say cringingly. But now I’m an old man, I realise more than ever that my mother was initially responsible for my repentance. I loved her so much I wanted to please her, although in the final analysis I did it to please God. But she won me over with love. When I was 15 still religiously shooting my slug gun my father very artfully asked me if I wasn’t a bit too old to shoot it. I never fired that gun again. He timed it just right. And God timed it just right too. Because without His perfect timing I wouldn’t have repented. But as I think of my mother I wonder why I never told her or thanked her for leading me to The Lord. But she will be in heaven. We can catch up then. And in telling this story I am teaching myself a lesson. And that is love. Love my children and grandchildren and my great grandchildren as my mother loved me. Love everyone. This is how Jesus did it. But Jesus and my mother are streets ahead of me. I’m coming up the rear again. Last in class. But I’m working on it.
It's surprising how all of these questions prompted by the students are questions that every person who is in pursuit of God runs into. There's so much pride, ignorance, and naivete in the questions and I've been in the same position. Some questions are hypotheticals and will never get answered to a satisfying degree. But, if someone in truly in pursuit of God, not antagonistically or spitefully, but truly desiring to know who God is, He will reveal himself to them. It was that way with me. Once you get a taste you cant stop.
As long as you do not begin to glorify yourself about how good you were and this is why God revealed Himself to you. Most of us were there where these worldly students are, living in the world and having no idea what is the truth.
@@nikokapanen82 There are certain things Christians and atheists can know as being 'true' to a very high probability Niko, eg: I'm sure you and I would concur that the planet we live on is sphere shaped, and that we orbit the Sun. Those are pretty much accepted 'truths'. I certainly would not place God's existence in that same bracket. I fully appreciate that you believe God to be real Niko, but science has struggled to find any credible evidence of this being.
Even His mother said “He is out of His mind” and His brothers didn’t believe in His miracles. After Jesus did even the Roman soldiers said “this Man really is the son of God.” They were not Jews they were JUDAHITES and they were all saved after they saw what He did.
People love their sins more then they love God and this is why the vehemently argue against God but I love listening to their reasoning and then Cliff rebuttals
NO. People like me do not see good evidence to believe in a god or many gods. I don't want to have a discussion with you about this but I want you to understand that my scepticism is warranted. No religion has presented good evidence to show they are right and all other religions are wrong.
@@fishjj76 well the evidence for the historical resurrection of Jesus is pretty good to back up his claim of being God… look at Gary Habermas’ scholarly work on the resurrection
Yes you are right. But also because the atheist is not being affected by the greatness of God which produces a humbling to those who acknowledge it, the atheist has therefore become quite inflated. And this inflation is coupled with too much admiration of self and mankind’s achievements. And this is empowering them. Hence they are in opposition to Cliffe’s message because to accept it would require the simultaneous jettisoning of the inflated self worth which they have acquired from not believing in God. Hence they fight against it. Yes they are in a difficult place. And whilst they are fighting to keep God at bay with their atheistic postulations, so they can maintain this inflated state of mind, their self deceit is such that they are actually unaware of this.
In all probability it seems reasonable to assume that someone like Theo Skeptical is probably a Satanist but pretending it not to be one. These are a most interesting bunch. Some actually do believe in God. However their agenda is to do all they can to thwart the purposes of God. It’s certainly a madness of types. But their rebellion against God gives them power. And because they so enjoy this power, they are so delusional that they think that Satan will be victorious and prevail against God. Like I say. It’s a madness.
“I don’t believe in conscious I believe society is what we follow” WHAT?! 😂 said we all agree to morals and to not kill each other because there’s no conscious. Ok then why is there serial killers, murderers, rapists, pedophiles, etc. the list goes on😂 that’s the thing people DONT always agree to not kill each other and do terrible things. It’s insane to me some of the things people say that simply aren’t true that every day live proves wrong😂🤦♂️
When Cliffe said 'I would not worship God if God decreed that murder was good', I'm fine with that, I think Cliffe is a nice man on the whole, and I like him and his sons. I much prefer either of them to Aron Ra, even though Aron is a fellow atheist but when the kid asked him that question, I think he and that lady missed what could have been a much better point to make to Cliffe regarding this, which I will explain. You might notice that whilst the kid used the term 'kill', Cliffe used the word 'murder'? Seems pedantic, I know but I'm not just being nit-picky here for the sake of it, no, in fact, that different use in wording between them was very significant because for many Christians those two words 'murder' and 'killing' make a difference and the latter can, under certain circumstances provide a convenient 'get-out jail clause' for the other. For example, when God supposedly told Abraham to kill his son, Issac on the alter, that, under normal circumstances could be said to have been him ordering Abraham to 'murder his son', however, believers will say "ah, but God was not asking him to murder his son he was asking him to kill his son on the alter as a sacrifice to him, so it was different". I get that, and we all know the story, how the so-called 'Angel of the Lord' (some say that was Jesus) then stopped it anyway, but the point here is that under that hypothetical scenario that Cliffe was presented with where he replied with 'I would not worship God if God God decreed that murder was good', the God that Cliffe believes in could, in fact, have gotten him to commit an act that technically would be murder, back in the OT days if God called it something else other than murder, eg, if God told Cliffe to go and slaughter a bunch of people as a sacrifice to him and that's the rub. The God Christians believe in could, in theory, get them to do ANYTHING if it's called something else, 'sacrifice', 'submission to God' etc.
@@jessebryant9233 I'll be happy to answer that Jesse, we humans are social creatures, it's in our best interest to cooperate and get along with one another, to give an example, if I steal your mobile phone, i know it would cause you a lot of grief, eg: it will contain all your phone numbers of family and friends, and a ton of other important data, if I mislaid my phone I would start to panic bigtime. So on that basis alone, i know it's wrong to steal your phone going on the basis that I would not like someone to steal my phone, so it's reciprocal. If you think I'm wrong, then, why, in YOUR opinion would it be wrong for me to steal your phone from your perspective?
@@jessebryant9233 Sure, there is nothing stopping me from stealing your phone, but as i said, I am aware of the golden rule, I know that if someone took my phone i would be royally bummed out. So again, if you think I'm wrong, why in YOUR opinion would it be wrong for me to steal your phone? From a purely social perspective, not taking other peoples stuff leads to a more cohesive community. Monkeys have exactly the same behaviour, they live in small groups, and any primate in that group who steps out of line is punished by the others, they don't have a God to tell them not to steal, they've worked this out for themselves, it's called reciprocal behaviour, .. you scratch my back, I'll scratch yours. Define exactly what you mean by 'morality' Jesse. Maybe we're talking at cross purposes.
A burning bush, the young man says. We need reason, and apologetics, but we need to pray for the demonstration of the power of God, like Paul spoke of. I was raised in cessationist church, but I have had the demonstration of God's power both internally and externally. Unless we pray that God moves by wonders on others, and believe for it, some will never believe. There are alot of Muslims seeing Jesus in the Middle East. Other people are having dreams. We need to pray for America, and this generation, that the same kind of thing will happen. Lastly, as Christians we know there is inate power in reading scripture, and we should preach the word. But unbelievers need something to gain their attention, and many times that us something supernatural. by the Holy Spirit touching them, or a dream, or healing is a big one. We need to ask and believe for these things.
@@jessebryant9233 it’s dangerous speech especially when he can’t even establish his first premise which there is a god. Cliff doesn’t preach love being the most important commandment, he preaches belief being the most important.
@@joecline1114 Dangerous? But you're assuming that human life really does have value-even while you have no rational basis for believing that. This is about you being scared that people might live consistently with the worldview they profess.
@@jessebryant9233 we are animals. All animals value those like them. It’s how the species is propagated. Doesn’t take a rocket scientist to understand if animals don’t value those like them they’ll die out.
10:03 "The wicked and adulterous generation will ask for a sign and will get none. The only sign they will get is the sign of Jonah." 13:04 They will hear the message of Christ. God promises that everyone will get the chance. At some point EVERYONE hears the Gospel. Now it very well might just be that those people hear it once, and never again. And that is why it is so important to SEARCH for Him.
Cliffe Says - If there was such thing as subjective morality that would mean that anyone can do whatever they want and it would be okay cause everything is subjective and no one has the right to intervene. Cliff disagrees with subjective morality and thinks morality is objective when his religion is the one killing, raping, and enslaving everyone else. My Response - There is one particular religion that believes it's religion is the foundation of the world's morality, and because of that, they allowed themselves to butcher any religion they wanted and avoided holding themselves accountable as long as it benefitted the spreading of their religion. None of them were put in prison. What is the name of this religion.? We all know what the name of that religion is. Let's talk about another Inquisition that most people are not aware of. What were some of the atrocities committed by Christians towards Indian Hindus when they arrived in India? The following is a description of the Christian atrocities towards Hindus - According to Bentinck, Macaulay and Trevelyan, it was a god given responsibility to initiate the decline of Hinduism and the spread of Christianity. They enlisted Christian preachers and missionaries to convert Indians mainly in order to secure the Christian British Empire (1857 - 1859). Indians suffered through a major Christian conversion effort. It began with the insertion of Christianity, and, for it, thousands upon thousands of Hindu men were killed. Let not the subjects be deceived; thousands were deprived of their religion in the North-West, and thousands of Hindus were hung rather than allowed to convert to Christianity. The British destroyed numerous Hindu temples and murdered hundreds of thousands of people for their religion. Most people do not know about this mainly because history books downplay this. The British killed thousands of people, looted the wealth, and destroyed Hindu temples. One of the reasons we know so little of British atrocities towards Hindus was the British sedition laws which prevented the publication of books by Indian historians. It was impossible to estimate the number of Indian casualties; however, Indian casualties in just the Lucknow Residency area ran upwards of 20,000. British also adopted a policy of starving Indians to death. So, apparently, as long as Cliff's religion is the religion, who is murdering innocent people; then . . .
Now JD, wasn't the British who stopped the Hindu practise of wive burning upon the death of the husband ? I believe it was referred to as Sarti if my memory serves me correctly JD.
@@giauscaesar8047 Lmao . . . and its just like the fockin christians to mind everyone else's business but their own. You've just helped me prove my point Thanks. It was an ancient tradition called sati; whereby, a widow would throw herself on her husband’s funeral pyre. This was voluntary and considered heroic, and a sign of love, and devotion. No one ever forced her against her will; however, because the British were shocked by this tradition they rumored she was being forced or coerced in some way. The symbolisms of fire has a different meaning in India then it does in the west.
@@bonnie43uk Well I believe that the Christian administrators when confronted by a delegation of Hindu's. Complaining that they could not abolish that practise as it was part of their tradition. The British responded by saying that they also had a tradition that any man who burned a woman. would be hanged & his property confiscated. So you practise your tradition & we will practise ours which must have come to as a great relief to the Hindu female population.
@@giauscaesar8047 thats interesting, but going back to my question, would you say that setting fire to someone would be regarded as highly immoral in your view? For me personally, it would certainly rank up there as one of the most horrific things any human could do to another human being.
10:45 - "The burden of proof is on you!" And given the God of the Bible, we have a rational basis for saying that murder is always wrong. The atheist/cynic believes murder is wrong as well, but has no rational basis for believing that is actually true. (Just note some of the comments from resident trolls on this very channel.) So the Christian can shoulder the burden of proof; the atheist/cynic cannot.
And this is an idiotic take. As an atheist I can say I would prefer to live in an society that subjectively believes murder is wrong based purely on the fact I would not liked to be murdered. And I feel as that that line of thought is more rational then believing it is wrong because a book claims a wizard says so.
@@OMGUKILLKENNY2 Preferences ≠ morality. You're not being rational, you are being arbitrary. Just saying... As for your facetious comment at the end (or was it just ignore-rantz?), again, that's plenty of emotion, not much rational thought.
@@jessebryant9233 I deem something wrong morally because I know I would not like to be on the receiving end of it. I would not liked to be harmed. Thus other may not like to be harmed. If both sides wish to avoid being harmed then causing needless harm must be wrong. Logical reasoning. And how was my end statement wrong? Do you not claim your "objective morality" comes from the authority of the wizard written about in your book?
@@OMGUKILLKENNY2 Oh, YOU deem-YOU determine what is right or wrong because it is something you don't like? Seriously? But for sure, if we grant you your arbitrary starting point... ARBITRARY, Mr. South Park. C'mon man, pragmatism ≠ morality. And you're still showing your hatred for the only possible source or objective moral values and standards by being snarky and saying "wizard"? But apparently, YOU fancy yourself to be the Wonderful Wizard! Also, I haven't authored any books so I'm not sure what you mean by "your book"... (That's right, I can do what you do too. Ain't hard.)
@@jessebryant9233 Subjective does not mean arbitrary. A subjective opinion can still come as a result of reasonable thought, as I have shown with giving my reasoning for my morals. Morals merely are a sense of right and wrong. Pragmatism is a perfectly fine foundation for one's morals. And what is the difference between the term wizard and god? Both are character types that use magic to bend reality to their will.
16:16 I’ve seen this a few times now on cliffe’s interactions and it’s still baffling. “ Resuscitating from the dead doesn’t all of a sudden give me godship.” Why do they completely jump over all of the torture and time that took place before his death? There is no way someone could go through all of that then rise from the dead after three days. Especially with no agent other than the Holy Spirit to bring them back. Not to mention Jesus literally called his death and resurrection. What more could you ask for at that point?
Lol rising from the dead was a regular occurrence according to the biblical narratives, Lazarus, the daughter of Jairus and the tombs of all the saints opened and they walked around the town.🤭😅🤣 Although apart from Mathew no one seems to have noticed or bothered to write it down 🙄🤔 so it seems that rising from the dead was somewhat of a banality at the time 🤭🤣🤣😂😂
Whilst I have no doubt that Cliffe truly accepts the New Testament as being 'gospel truth' , I think the students have legitimate concerns for doubting whether Christianity is true, in every video he asks the students to read the Gospels and to ask themselves whether it reads as historical narrative or not. I'm not aware of to many historical accounts taken seriously that include supernatural accounts involving things which defy the laws of nature. Hence why many university students are not convinced of those New testament claims.
@@ultrastar23 Yes, i have a presupposition that miracles do not occur, but it's based on various observations, including what I see around me, lack of credible evidence, total absence of any verifiable proof, etc. However, I am not a closed book, if presented with such evidence, and it checks out, I would be more than willing to adjust my thinking concerning miracles. But what I cannot do is accept someone's word, or a claim in a book that a supernatural miracle occurred. If i told you I saw a man floating in mid air, and he floated up into the clouds, i think you'd be foolish to believe me. Or even if i told you that a man laid his hands over a blind mans eyes, and when he took his hands away, that blind man had regained his sight, .. again, you'd be foolish to believe me without sound verifiable evidence.
What "legitimate concerns" would those be and what's it to you anyhow? But then you have concerns based upon your own naturalistic assumptions (which you cannot demonstrate is even possible, let alone true). So if you assume one thing that you can't prove in order to argue against something else while ignoring the entire premise... Seems to be that you are demonstrating Proverbs 26:12 as usual.
Thanks, Tom. Aside from the alleged miracles supposedly performed by Jesus, themselves, even the situations that led to the need for him to step in with miracles in the first place also seem suspiciously made up to me. A bit like the way the comics make up highly unlikely scenarios for superheroes like Superman and Spiderman to come in and save the day but how often do any of those things happen in real life? For example (I mentioned this to someone else), the wedding where they 'ran out of wine', I mean, yes, mistakes can happen when organising an event like a wedding, sure, but how likely is it that the people that organised that wedding or any wedding would overlook having enough wine for the guests? Didn't they do a check to see how many would attend? I've been to two weddings and if anything, there is always plenty left over because the people that organise it purposely OVERESTIMATE attendance and consumption to be on the safe side, which is sensible. it would be sllly not to. If you know that you will have 100 guests attend an event you're organising, then if you're clever, you would provide enough food and drink for OVER 100. It never seems to occur to believers to wonder about the likelihood of a wine shortage at a wedding. it just comes across to me like something that was made up just so the writers could then incorporate this story of Jesus saving the day with a miracle. I have little doubt that Jesus historically existed but I am highly suspicious that there was more made up about him than was fact, including turning water into wine. I know many Christians might say "ah, you're missing the point, johnny boy, it was meant to symbolise the sanctity of marriage", yes, I get all that, I'm an ex-pentecostal, happy clappy believer that once said all of that stuff too but that's just avoiding scrutinizing the alleged miracle ITSELF and the highly unlikely circumstances surrounding it, which they understandably won't want to do.
Who else thinks the blonde haired guy voice kinda sounds like Stewart’s lol I thought it was him at first but then I notice it was the younger cliff days
The dedication to preach the gospel for that many years across American college campuses is something worthy of respect.
I must say after watching many of these videos there is a stark difference between the debating students in these early ones vs the ones being made today/last 10 years. These early ones seem to have more interesting points and articulate them more clearly, though Cliffe still handles them with ease. The modern students seem more emotional and stubborn in their views/arguments.
I think you're right. I think people now are less concerned with finding the truth and more concerned with not having their opinions disagreed with
Cliffe's Patience is 💯💯
👏🏾👏🏾👏🏾
Now I wouldn't question God why these idiot people send to hell.
It's because everyday in every conversation he has to listen to stupid questions from morons. No wonder humanity has failed....😅
Amen!! Glory to God almighty!!
He sounds like he’s getting pretty upset to me honestly.
Wow. The very first thing he said about Jesus being free from sin, absolutely perfect, deserving our every ounce of respect? Chills running down my spine. Amen! We love you Jesus!
Cliffes delivery of the gospel to that old fella had me crying. What a great episode of this.
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@@SPPACATR it really was so good. God bless for the time stamps!
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Garbage answers
And the bitter, bigoted, God hating troll Jason shows up as usual, making his little assertions while providing no argument whatsoever. It is just what he does. Shows up religiously. Poor boys got a burr under his butt... 🙏
@@SPPACATR WHEW! MR CLIFF KNOWS HIS BIBLE HISTORY AND IF THE GENTLEMAN DOES NOT HAVE BELIEF IN JESUS CHRIST AFTER RECEIVING THE MANNA FROM MR CLIFF AS TO THE LIFE, DEATH AND RESURRECTION OF JESUS CHRIST THEN HIS FREEWILL SETS GOD’S ULTIMATE JUDGEMENT UPON HIMSELF BY HIS OWN HAND!
The theme music is so 90's. Brings back such nostalgia. I love it. And we get to here very philosophical conversations about our Lord Jesus Christ. Even better
The guy has nice frosted tips top 😂
miss the 90's pre internet back when people was still people and life was more simple
I love this guy. Most people preaching the gospel do it way too calmly and refuse to call people out on their nonsense- not Cliffe.
Seeing the faces of these arrogant people when they've realized they've been checkmated would keep me going🎉
Not all heroes wear capes. Thank you Cliffe, what an intelligent mind! God bless you.
I felt so encouraged when he called the disciples whimps because I tend to forget that they were actually human.i feel much better now.God bless you cliffe!
I’m going to have to listen for the context to that statement because the disciples were certainly NOT wimps. Some of them displayed wimpy behavior at times but over all the were the most courageous and devoted men in history.
All of them except for John faced horrible deaths for their belief and dedication to Jesus Christ.
They were wimps before Jesus's death, after the Resurrection they were bold.
Cliffe, you are really something else. I cannot believe you have been able to take these kind of verbal onslaughts for so many years. God bless you, Sharon, & family.
Is this Sharon from crossroads?
@@yngclothingNo, I believe Sharon is Cliffe's wife.
Debates like this is what needs to happen around the country!!!
I like how Cliffe gets in a linebacker stance when having a discussion like hes about to go in a full sprint and spear the other 😂
23:56 I love how respectful this man is, calling Cliffe "sir" and speaking so calmly, good on him
His respect was so endearing 😅
What a testimony of Jesus Christ ...who else better to follow...Jesus is everything 🙌 👌
Wtf are you using the emoji for?
That conclusion was beautiful.
To reject Jesus is to reject his death for our sins.
Beautifully said Cliffe.
The best way to preach, thank you. You and others like you motivate me to read the entire Bible
I have read the entire bible twice. That's why I'm an athiest.
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He has a special approach where he reasons with the students in a logical and rational way. He does bring up issues that are written in the Bible on a regular basis in his talks like in this video.
I think it is a talent to be able to speak with worldly people in a reasonable way while staying Biblical in your conversation.
Some people have nothing but Bible verses in their talk but people do not talk to them very long because they get annoyed by that.
In all probability it seems reasonable to assume that someone like Theo Skeptical and others like him who are also misled, are probably Satanists but pretending it not to be one. These are a most interesting bunch. Some actually do believe in God. However their agenda is to do all they can to thwart the purposes of God.
It’s certainly a madness of types. But their rebellion against God gives them power. And because they so enjoy this power, they are so delusional that they think that Satan will ultimately be victorious and prevail against God. Like I say. It’s a madness.
@@fishjj76 Twice? That's crazy because I've read it multiple times from Genesis to Revelation for over 7 years and I'm still learning more about God's Word, Character and Will.
Young Cliffe was a FREAKING SAVAGE 🤣. AMEN brothers and sisters in Christ our Lord and God bless brother Cliffe Knechtle's Apologetics ministry and you ALL 🙏❤️👊. It's obviously not the burden of proof for believers but God Himself to meet the burden of proof which He has for us Christian theists despite what Atheists claim are just unsupported claims. This has nothing to do with the video but please listen if you want to otherwise leave it alone and ignore it. Hello my name is Justin and I'm a Christian and Apologist but I'm also a college student. I'm not a closed minded Theist as I have nothing against Atheists or unbelievers as I speak to them often to understand their reasons for unbelief but we as Christians are convinced of God's Existence due to many real factors). I'm not trying to convert anyone or convince anyone to become Christians as that's The Holy Spirit's job to help people believe but only explain why I believe in Jesus Christ. There's actually evidence of God's Existence in Christianity. First of all there's proof that Jesus of Nazareth existed in history since the writings of Tacitus, Josephus Flavius, Pliny the younger and other historical documents prove that He was living two thousand years ago that even scholars both religious and Atheists agree with historically speaking but not that He's The Divine Son of God because obviously they don't.
I'm going to give you historical and archeological evidence for God's Existence as The Scriptures have prophecies that predate the events recorded in them by several millennia including Matthew, Hosea and Zechariah which prophesy accurately of the people of Israel becoming a nation again after over 1900 years of being scattered around the nations since the destruction of the Temple in Jerusalem in 70 A.D. spoken of by Christ in Matthew 23:29-24:3 and returning to their homeland after The Holocaust with Jerusalem as their capital in 1948 exactly as Jesus The Christ said. The prophets including Daniel spoke of the time where several world empires would arise and fall including the Babylonian kingdom, Medes and Persians, Roman Empire, and Saladin and the Muslims which went in consecutive order for the past few millennia. The people of Israel becoming a nation after The Holocaust in 1948 (ironically the melting point of gold as God compares Israel to gold that's tested in fire in Zechariah 13:8 and Jeremiah 16:15) exactly how Jesus The Christ said would happen since God us everything to come in The Scriptures and not just because people were working towards as Atheists claim which are impossible for any regular man to predict.
Just before anyone says Christianity is a white man's religion made to oppress blacks during slavery you obviously aren't aware that the first Christians were Jews in The Middle East and that Christianity just like any religion can be used by evil and corrupt people to oppress others but you forget that the first Abolitionists/Civil Rights activists were Christians who sought to abolish slavery, racism, segregation, injustice and prejudice throughout American history. Jesus The Christ loves you enough not to give you what we all deserve which is God's Wrath by His Own Blood. Charles Darwin didn't originally come up with The Theory of Evolution over 200 years ago as it is mentioned in the writings of Ancient Greeks who believed in Demons that gave knowledge to philosophers.
Evolution makes no sense when nothing has evolved after thousands of years of human history and supposedly the first creature came from primordial sludge several millions of years
ago funny how they won't believe that God an Eternal Almighty Spirit Being created us from the Earth) which came from a supermassive expansion of matter at high temperature that inexplicably created everything in the known universe that supposedly came from nothing billions of years ago. How did the organs evolve before there were bones, skin, substance and how did any creatures see before eyes evolved? I've studied evolution and abiogenesis in the past and read Darwin's " Origin of The Species" I've studied evolution and abiogenesis in the past and read Darwin's " Origin of The Species" and I'm not convinced of but not macro or micro Evolution because there's no evidence of it nor clear observable examples of it where living creatures evolve into other kinds of species plus the fact that fossils don't show evidence of evolution and genetic entropy rules out evolution. The question begs how did two genders evolve from a common ancestor with a perfectly hospitable and sustainable environment with breathable oxygen and resources to survive on inexplicably? Atheists have the burden of proof to explain how everything came to be and why our existence is possible without the Existence of God from an godless perspective just as Christians have to provide evidence of God's Existence and the validity of His Word.
Evolution requires life to already exist in order to take any effect in living organisms so it doesn't account for the existence of Life and reality. Also evolution is impossible because it goes against The Law of entropy and the second Law of thermodynamics because evolution makes things better whereas nothing continues to get better but decays and turns to absolute destruction in the end. Mark Ridley an Evolutionist said "No evolutionist whether gradualist or punctuationist uses the fossil record as evidence in favor of The Theory of Darwinian Evolution as opposed to special Creation". God's Existence is made perfectly known and observable in the universe as demonstrated in His Handiwork in the intelligently designed manner that Creation was made, human consciences and consciousness historical and archaeological evidence of God's Word being valid history, fulfillment of Bible Prophecies God in His Holiness and Righteousness could give us what we deserve in Hell for our since but He's merciful to give us free will to choose to accept or reject His gift of salvation by grace through faith in His Son Jesus. I don't mean this is any condescending manner but if you'd like to discuss The Scriptures with me or have me listen to your view on anything my instagram account is Savage Christian Kombatant.
Thanks for uploading. I use what you say to help my coworkers find God and I feel and see him tugging on their hearts. Thank you so much for everything you say. You are fighting the good fight keep it up we are out here fighting with you I promise!!!!!
The guy with the blonde-died hair seemed to have demons in those lifeless eyes 25 years ago. I hope at some point he did or will receive Jesus as his personal Savior in his one and only life.
Yes fr
That was what I thought before I opened the video
Bro that’s Ben stiller
Nah that’s the homeboy from the movie stand by me lol the bad guy lol
The way he said "I don't believe there's a conscious" came out so inhuman.
Dude rather trust a sinful philosopher then the True and Living God with his ethical standards…..sheesh🤦🏾
For some reason the older guy that asked a couple of questions tugged on my heart. And I like that way you responded to him, I believe he was genuinely asking the questions that he didn’t understand on his own or that nobody really explained.
I’ve been listening to Pastor Cliffe for years and it still astounds me how much university students go out of their way to argue themselves right to the gates of hell! Obviously they can come back from there! Many know enough Bible to specifically quote some passages which leads me to think they were not prepared by family and or their churches to stand up to the professors and fellow students questions and they walked away……it’s sad that I’m looking at so many possible Tribulation Saints, that is if God has not hardened their heart to ever come back to Him!
// "many people know enough about the bible blah blah blah" //
I recommend everyone read the bible its one of the main reasons I'm an atheist. I think it was Mark Twain that said....
_"It ain’t the parts of the Bible that I can’t understand that bother me, it is the parts that I do understand"_
@@trumpbellend6717 and yet your watching Pastor Cliffe! Mark Twain also said on the trip to Israel, that it was completely desolate with few people to be found! What was he looking for on that trip? As the Bible predicted in Isaiah 66.8, Ezekiel 37:21-22, that Israel would be born in one day which happened May 14th, 1948! Israel began to draw her people back and now they are the provider of most of Europe’s fruit and flowers! The land flourished with God’s hands behind it! Evidence is everywhere that the Bible is true! Jesus said many times; “Let those with eyes see, and those with ears hear’! Are your eyes and ears closed?
@@robertrettig7110 Yawn 🥱 the bible said _" can a nation will be born in one day"_ but technically EVERY NATION is born in a day. Was America not "born" in the day it signed the declaration of independence??
Is THIS "piffle supposed to justify belief in talking snakes and tribes of giants ? 🤭😂🤣🤣
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// "Mark Twain also said on the trip to Israel that it was completely desolate with few people to be found. What was he looking for on that trip" //
"PEOPLE" from the sound of it dear 🤭😂😍🤣😂😍😍
@@trumpbellend6717 Context! Mark Twain was a skeptic like you, went looking for answers in Israel….just like your watching Pastor Cliffe! It’s also amazing how people say there is no God, and I hate Him! You mock what you don’t understand, ridicule what you think you’ve read in the Bible. Why your crusade? Something is pulling at you and your fighting it!
“If you compare Mohammed to Zeus , I think you’re out for lunch.” -Cliffe 😂😂😂
32:36 The guy with the cup is emulating my emotions throughout this whole video exactly 😂😂😂
Absolutely brilliant as usual. Praise Jesus ❤
"I love the look on some of Cliffes listeners faces, and the glow in their eyes, and you can see what Cliffe is teaching them, is the words of Jesus"! "I personally love listening and learning from Cliffe! "He's an atheist smasher" and "go ahead and try and refute him"! God bless you pastor Cliffe and Stuart and your ministry," with 🙏's and ❤!
Me too..love an atheist smasher x
Cliff Plants the seeds of Jesus Christ then it grows by The Holy Spirit drawing in The Lost Souls!
Cliffe is truly filled with the spirit, his reward in heaven will be great
These kids are asking some really great questions. Tough questions to answer in Cliff's shoes. Great discussion all around.
Awesome , never heard of this man , TY for uploading , YE'SHUA LIVES❤️
Cliff was on 🔥. I'm an agnostic but you have my respect, and I am seeking further into this most major issue.
Look in the mirror. You are not an accident. God created you and all other humans. The question is who is God? Cliffe is letting you know the Bible tells us.
Agnostic is the first step for many. Its admitting you don't know and that helps alot gets rid of alot biases we have or were taught in our life
Just read the Bible cover to cover and you'll be an atheist.
@@Theo_Skeptomai Humans are told by God to spread the gospel to all nations and people.
Matthew 28:19
Go therefore and make disciples of all nations, baptizing them in the name of the Father and of the Son and of the Holy Spirit,
@@Theo_Skeptomai Nope. God is totally unique and separate from the Universe (Space, time and matter). God has always existed in eternity. This universe has not always existed. The 'big bang' was God speaking the universe into creation/existence. Space, matter, energy, and time all began at the exact same moment because God chose to make it happen.
It is so amazing to hear people with 0 knowledge & Spiritual connection converse with Cliffe. I totally admire how he teaches, & talks with them.
Wow...just wow.
Truth explain plainly.
Thank God for Cliffe
Classic. Great as always Cliffe, God bless you.
This is from 25 years ago? Wow! 😲 Bless the Lord 🙏
He also said he was preaching 20 years before that at 14:40, meaning in total he has been doing this for 45 years
I don't know were cliff gets the patience, I don't think I could do what he does,😎 total respect and love.
From God
Thank you for putting these videos out
That kid at 10:55 is going to get the most rude awakening ever. I also did that to God, said all those things, and he flipped my entire life upside down, ripped the rug out from under me and beat me with the same rug I used to carelessly walk on. I pray God has mercy with that kid and uses kid gloves because when God goes bare knuckle it’s not pretty nor enjoyable. Best experience ever after the fact, but you’ll wish you were dead while he’s kicking the shit out of you righteously.
I like your allegory but the despair you received was never God beating you but it was him separating himself from your life as you wished it. I also asked God to step back and let me try it out alone. I grew up in pure sin and fell into despair from it. Once I found Jesus(he doesn't hide lol) and I laid my life down for him, I found my life finally knew peace and order. That's my experience.
@@gooselessvagabond2199 I get what you’re saying but no. Hell is separation from God. This was a holy ass beating lol 😂
We need a Cliif and Stuart at every college campus around the world.🙏✝️
Im a simple man. I see a cliffe's video, i watch it.
19:11 this is a really well put together statement
Jesus loves you and God has a plan for your life ❤️💕💓💖🧬
Awesome way to expose the gospel 🙌
I would LOVE to see where all these students are now
Loootttss of patience!! God bless him though.. Preaching to try to bring those young people to the Lord.. Amen..and impressive
Well according to J Edger Hoover MLK was not a man of integrity 😅
Seriously I absolutely love these video’s they are the best on YT
MLK was also an alleged rapist, the evedince for it is said to release in 2027.
Love you cliffe keep on keeping on
I had chills when he was explaining the gospel to the older gentleman
The look on his face was everything
I guess I was 55 at the time. Now I’m 75. I started my thinking journey at age 30 puzzling over why we do what we do. Got born again at age 40.
But for a long time I couldn’t figure out why I loved a little 5 year girl who walked past my place every morning, going to school with her grandfather.
I knew I loved her but why. Each day this little tot walked past with her grandfather who walked about 10 paces behind her.
She was a little Holly Hobby type. She had on her little back pack and was leaning forward striding forth.
I couldn’t really see her that well. She would be on the other side of the street going in the opposite direction.
And as this Chinese infant with her old grandfather in tow walked past my place every morning, I wondered why I loved her. Why why why. What a puzzle.
Answers in the beginning never came to me easily. But some years later I realised it was her obedience that made me love her. She was determined to be obedient.
I will never forget that little girl who must be a grown women today of 25. Maybe married with her own family. But I am still blessing her.
We don’t always realise how much we are loved and being blessed. But we know that God loves the obedient.
But if God loves me as much as I loved that little Holly Hobby, that will do me.
He knows I’m doing my best.
And as my boyhood friend Mack, my greatly beloved dog, was fiercely loyal to me, I am fiercely loyal to God.
Pure delusion Paul
@@jasonnoble7302 hahahaha I love you ❤️❤️❤️
Keep being loyal Paul and you will receive the reward one day.
@@wspek thank you
@@wspek
Muslims tell each other the same thing
ever noticed how the older AskCliffe videos have deeper and more insightful conversations?
not much yelling, unreasonabity, and a lazyiness to think
I think Cliffe's character, energy, the way he comes off, propagates civil discussion. When I first started watching, I was actually surprised about how calm and respectful everyone was.
As you eluded to, a majority of videos I come across on campuses are much different.
yeah i noticed it to, they do ask the same sort of questions. but the students seem to recognise the error in their way of thinking when Cliff points it out to them.
Modern wokeism teaches not to have civilized discussions.
I love how Cliffe just makes these people read the Bible for themselves ❤
I wish I had a Cliffe in my life
There are quite a few videos to watch. 😄
(Then you have James Tour.)
Even if the person is really asking a question in a sincere way the person has to make the time to find this Jesus before it’s to late ⏰
God bless you Cliffe 🙏
I don't agree with the blonde youth. But it was truly refreshing to hear a student who was concise and clear and not one single "um" or "like".
The LORDS Favour is coming upon me AMEN
God breathes life into His word. Come out of “her.” Amen
All I have is the text
Even those who saw Jesus were too sinful to realize it. Some believed but they stood by while an innocent was beaten, mocked, and murdered. We are those people, it would be no different today.
If you happened to be around at the time Jesus was being mocked as he made his way to the crucifixion site, seeing him carrying his cross, and you tried to save him, would you not be interfering in God's plan? God set all this up didn't he?
@@Theo_Skeptomai outside of the New testament there is zero credible evidence of this claim to be best of my knowledge.
Maybe
@@bonnie43uk OH NO Bonnie and Theo Skeptomai my favorite Atheists back together again like The Scooby Doo gang 😂
@@justingary5322 How do you go about determining what is true and what is not true Justin? ... this gets right to the heart of what Theo and others are asking. We have legitimate concerns. If what you believe is true, our eternal souls depend on it do they not?, is that a concern for you as a Christian in any way?
This may be wrong but it’s good to see a black guy who is an individual and not a weird archetype of a person
7:40 here I thought the student got the upper hand. Cliffe quickly saved his postion, impressive
Trust Jesus Christ not The Deceiver.
Allah, the Best Deceiver (Qur'an 3:54)
FACTS
Every person was born with a God conscience whether they realize it or not right and wrong.
Romans 12:2
If they cared to listen to it...
@@Theo_Skeptomai Human experience and study of human nature DUH OBVIOUSLY 🙄. Stupid questions Theo Skeptomai maybe you should be skeptical of your cynical approach
No
Everyone knows the universal structure reveals objective values they just deny it based on their own subjective opinion instead of using the knowledge given to them by the universal structure
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Justindodger
You’re the Fastest runner on cliff channel
@@Theo_Skeptomai
Might be
Acts like it
Poor little fella 🥲
When you answer questions off the cuff like this you know the Holy Spirit is with him.
I highly respect this guy for his willing to answer, I Don't Know. Too many pastors & politicians, try to bullshit their way thru the hard questions instead if humbling themselves and admitting when they don't know something.
I love you cliff forever.
why
I think you need to love Jesus Christ not Cliffe
@@freyamccauley but if you Love Messiah won't you also love Mosses , Abraham , Paul and Cliffe ?
If you Love Ye'shua you will also all who are His.
@@soljahsolrac so irrelevant. God bless.
@@freyamccauley but He commanded us to Love each other , we are a family , how are His commandments irrelevant "?"
The fellow in the black jacket and sunglasses thinks his opinion is A LOT MORE important than it truly is!! HUMBLE YOURSELVES IN THE SIGHT OF THE LORD!!
6:02 As a white South African, speaking in relation to Apartheid, it is not about racial segregation, it is about a nation of people that wanted to rule over themselves. Despite other Africans being black I don't believe I am better then them because of my race but rather I want to rule over my people (the Boers) a black African should have the right to rule over their own people. As long as we are on Earth, there will be different Cultures, different people, but all will stand in front of God one day and be judged. I am a white South African Christian, this doesn't mean I will care less if a person is black, I love them just as much as I love myself. In showing my love, I care that they get to read the Gospels and tell others about the Gospels. I have more examples in Boers history of where this happened.
God is good 🙏🏼
As a boy I wasn’t much good at anything. Pretty useless actually. I was one of those kids. But very good with my slug gun.
I was dead last in class every single year of my life, which was a bit hard to take. It’s not easy being a dummy.
Therefore I decided to become very successful at something. So I decided to become a troublemaker.
In this I greatly excelled.
But because I had a very pious mother whom I loved as much as my boyhood dog Mack, I now realise that I would have become a priest in order to please her.
This would have happened if I had been good at my studies instead of always being in trouble.
But if I had of become a catholic priest I would not know what I know today.
At age 40, I’m now 75, I made the hardest decision in my life. I became a born again Christian. I never expected any lightening bolts or thunder claps.
But to my surprise stuff happened, so much so that I came under great conviction. I knew God was on board.
And in a semi tyrannical way I began to witness. How people reacted to me was interesting to say the least. I was something else, I say cringingly.
But now I’m an old man, I realise more than ever that my mother was initially responsible for my repentance.
I loved her so much I wanted to please her, although in the final analysis I did it to please God.
But she won me over with love.
When I was 15 still religiously shooting my slug gun my father very artfully asked me if I wasn’t a bit too old to shoot it.
I never fired that gun again. He timed it just right. And God timed it just right too. Because without His perfect timing I wouldn’t have repented.
But as I think of my mother I wonder why I never told her or thanked her for leading me to The Lord.
But she will be in heaven. We can catch up then.
And in telling this story I am teaching myself a lesson.
And that is love. Love my children and grandchildren and my great grandchildren as my mother loved me. Love everyone.
This is how Jesus did it.
But Jesus and my mother are streets ahead of me. I’m coming up the rear again. Last in class.
But I’m working on it.
People you devote your life to texts that you read from your books in college
It’s about the content of those texts, the ideas and information that come from them not the text itself.
Imagine not reading The Odyssey because it's an old book. As if people had no intelligence or understanding back then.
@@dogelife7901 SAME HERE DUDE that's excellent reasoning
@@dogelife7901 Did you know the story of Jesus was based on Homers epics.
Excellent video
This kids ask amazing questions
It's surprising how all of these questions prompted by the students are questions that every person who is in pursuit of God runs into. There's so much pride, ignorance, and naivete in the questions and I've been in the same position. Some questions are hypotheticals and will never get answered to a satisfying degree. But, if someone in truly in pursuit of God, not antagonistically or spitefully, but truly desiring to know who God is, He will reveal himself to them. It was that way with me. Once you get a taste you cant stop.
As long as you do not begin to glorify yourself about how good you were and this is why God revealed Himself to you.
Most of us were there where these worldly students are, living in the world and having no idea what is the truth.
Amen
@@nikokapanen82 There are certain things Christians and atheists can know as being 'true' to a very high probability Niko, eg: I'm sure you and I would concur that the planet we live on is sphere shaped, and that we orbit the Sun. Those are pretty much accepted 'truths'. I certainly would not place God's existence in that same bracket. I fully appreciate that you believe God to be real Niko, but science has struggled to find any credible evidence of this being.
Exactly how do you “pursuit” God without presupposing the one you’re “pursuit” is the right one that exists?
@@jasonnoble7302 that’s your problem you figure it out
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Praise God🙏amen
Idk why this video teared me up.
Nietzsche is a great atheist 🔥
@@Theo_Skeptomai SOOOO 😂
Even His mother said “He is out of His mind” and His brothers didn’t believe in His miracles.
After Jesus did even the Roman soldiers said “this Man really is the son of God.” They were not Jews they were JUDAHITES and they were all saved after they saw what He did.
Jesus Loves you ❤
The movie Father Stu is the reason I started going back to church. God works wonders
The more I look into the person of Jesus the more I trust him
the student back in the day look like they already have 5 - 10 years professional experience for what they about to study.
People love their sins more then they love God and this is why the vehemently argue against God but I love listening to their reasoning and then Cliff rebuttals
NO. People like me do not see good evidence to believe in a god or many gods. I don't want to have a discussion with you about this but I want you to understand that my scepticism is warranted. No religion has presented good evidence to show they are right and all other religions are wrong.
@@fishjj76 well the evidence for the historical resurrection of Jesus is pretty good to back up his claim of being God… look at Gary Habermas’ scholarly work on the resurrection
@@ultrastar23 Let me guess what the evidence is.
1. The gospels.
2. Paul's letters.
3. Christian martyrs.
NO CONTEMPORARY EVIDENCE.
Yes you are right. But also because the atheist is not being affected by the greatness of God which produces a humbling to those who acknowledge it, the atheist has therefore become quite inflated.
And this inflation is coupled with too much admiration of self and mankind’s achievements. And this is empowering them.
Hence they are in opposition to Cliffe’s message because to accept it would require the simultaneous jettisoning of the inflated self worth which they have acquired from not believing in God. Hence they fight against it.
Yes they are in a difficult place. And whilst they are fighting to keep God at bay with their atheistic postulations, so they can maintain this inflated state of mind, their self deceit is such that they are actually unaware of this.
In all probability it seems reasonable to assume that someone like Theo Skeptical is probably a Satanist but pretending it not to be one. These are a most interesting bunch. Some actually do believe in God. However their agenda is to do all they can to thwart the purposes of God.
It’s certainly a madness of types. But their rebellion against God gives them power. And because they so enjoy this power, they are so delusional that they think that Satan will be victorious and prevail against God. Like I say. It’s a madness.
Blah blah I’m in college I know everything
Hehe...
That's sad
- And I like his sweater!
I miss the 90's
“I don’t believe in conscious I believe society is what we follow” WHAT?! 😂 said we all agree to morals and to not kill each other because there’s no conscious. Ok then why is there serial killers, murderers, rapists, pedophiles, etc. the list goes on😂 that’s the thing people DONT always agree to not kill each other and do terrible things. It’s insane to me some of the things people say that simply aren’t true that every day live proves wrong😂🤦♂️
When Cliffe said 'I would not worship God if God decreed that murder was good', I'm fine with that, I think Cliffe is a nice man on the whole, and I like him and his sons. I much prefer either of them to Aron Ra, even though Aron is a fellow atheist but when the kid asked him that question, I think he and that lady missed what could have been a much better point to make to Cliffe regarding this, which I will explain.
You might notice that whilst the kid used the term 'kill', Cliffe used the word 'murder'? Seems pedantic, I know but I'm not just being nit-picky here for the sake of it, no, in fact, that different use in wording between them was very significant because for many Christians those two words 'murder' and 'killing' make a difference and the latter can, under certain circumstances provide a convenient 'get-out jail clause' for the other.
For example, when God supposedly told Abraham to kill his son, Issac on the alter, that, under normal circumstances could be said to have been him ordering Abraham to 'murder his son', however, believers will say "ah, but God was not asking him to murder his son he was asking him to kill his son on the alter as a sacrifice to him, so it was different".
I get that, and we all know the story, how the so-called 'Angel of the Lord' (some say that was Jesus) then stopped it anyway, but the point here is that under that hypothetical scenario that Cliffe was presented with where he replied with 'I would not worship God if God God decreed that murder was good', the God that Cliffe believes in could, in fact, have gotten him to commit an act that technically would be murder, back in the OT days if God called it something else other than murder, eg, if God told Cliffe to go and slaughter a bunch of people as a sacrifice to him and that's the rub. The God Christians believe in could, in theory, get them to do ANYTHING if it's called something else, 'sacrifice', 'submission to God' etc.
So given your own worldview, what is the rational basis for claiming that there is anything wrong with anything?
@@jessebryant9233 I'll be happy to answer that Jesse, we humans are social creatures, it's in our best interest to cooperate and get along with one another, to give an example, if I steal your mobile phone, i know it would cause you a lot of grief, eg: it will contain all your phone numbers of family and friends, and a ton of other important data, if I mislaid my phone I would start to panic bigtime. So on that basis alone, i know it's wrong to steal your phone going on the basis that I would not like someone to steal my phone, so it's reciprocal.
If you think I'm wrong, then, why, in YOUR opinion would it be wrong for me to steal your phone from your perspective?
@@bonnie43uk
Doesn't mean we 'ought' to. You're talking pragmatism, NOT morality.
@@jessebryant9233 Sure, there is nothing stopping me from stealing your phone, but as i said, I am aware of the golden rule, I know that if someone took my phone i would be royally bummed out. So again, if you think I'm wrong, why in YOUR opinion would it be wrong for me to steal your phone?
From a purely social perspective, not taking other peoples stuff leads to a more cohesive community. Monkeys have exactly the same behaviour, they live in small groups, and any primate in that group who steps out of line is punished by the others, they don't have a God to tell them not to steal, they've worked this out for themselves, it's called reciprocal behaviour, .. you scratch my back, I'll scratch yours.
Define exactly what you mean by 'morality' Jesse. Maybe we're talking at cross purposes.
@@bonnie43uk
The Golden Rule? ... So you do believe there is a standard? Interesting...
John 20:29 Jesus said to him, Because you have seen Me, you have believed. Blessed are those who have not seen and have believed
A burning bush, the young man says. We need reason, and apologetics, but we need to pray for the demonstration of the power of God, like Paul spoke of. I was raised in cessationist church, but I have had the demonstration of God's power both internally and externally. Unless we pray that God moves by wonders on others, and believe for it, some will never believe.
There are alot of Muslims seeing Jesus in the Middle East. Other people are having dreams. We need to pray for America, and this generation, that the same kind of thing will happen.
Lastly, as Christians we know there is inate power in reading scripture, and we should preach the word. But unbelievers need something to gain their attention, and many times that us something supernatural. by the Holy Spirit touching them, or a dream, or healing is a big one. We need to ask and believe for these things.
Lol Grow up
“If there is no god we don’t have value”…Cliff Knechtle. I find this type of speech abhorrent.
Why?
@@jessebryant9233 it’s dangerous speech especially when he can’t even establish his first premise which there is a god. Cliff doesn’t preach love being the most important commandment, he preaches belief being the most important.
@@joecline1114
Dangerous? But you're assuming that human life really does have value-even while you have no rational basis for believing that. This is about you being scared that people might live consistently with the worldview they profess.
@@jessebryant9233 we are animals. All animals value those like them. It’s how the species is propagated. Doesn’t take a rocket scientist to understand if animals don’t value those like them they’ll die out.
He's never said that. Just that our Existence is meaningless and a freak accident
10:03 "The wicked and adulterous generation will ask for a sign and will get none. The only sign they will get is the sign of Jonah."
13:04 They will hear the message of Christ. God promises that everyone will get the chance. At some point EVERYONE hears the Gospel. Now it very well might just be that those people hear it once, and never again. And that is why it is so important to SEARCH for Him.
The Bible says people will be "willingly ignorant". That means dumb on purpose
Is it me or does the black guy in the end looks like the pastor David Lynn?
Cliffe Says -
If there was such thing as subjective morality that would mean that anyone can do whatever they want and it would be okay cause everything is subjective and no one has the right to intervene.
Cliff disagrees with subjective morality and thinks morality is objective when his religion is the one killing, raping, and enslaving everyone else.
My Response -
There is one particular religion that believes it's religion is the foundation of the world's morality, and because of that, they allowed themselves to butcher any religion they wanted and avoided holding themselves accountable as long as it benefitted the spreading of their religion.
None of them were put in prison.
What is the name of this religion.? We all know what the name of that religion is.
Let's talk about another Inquisition that most people are not aware of.
What were some of the atrocities committed by Christians towards Indian Hindus when they arrived in India?
The following is a description of the Christian atrocities towards Hindus -
According to Bentinck, Macaulay and Trevelyan, it was a god given responsibility to initiate the decline of Hinduism and the spread of Christianity.
They enlisted Christian preachers and missionaries to convert Indians mainly in order to secure the Christian British Empire (1857 - 1859).
Indians suffered through a major Christian conversion effort.
It began with the insertion of Christianity, and, for it, thousands upon thousands of Hindu men were killed. Let not the subjects be deceived; thousands were deprived of their religion in the North-West, and thousands of Hindus were hung rather than allowed to convert to Christianity.
The British destroyed numerous Hindu temples and murdered hundreds of thousands of people for their religion. Most people do not know about this mainly because history books downplay this.
The British killed thousands of people, looted the wealth, and destroyed Hindu temples.
One of the reasons we know so little of British atrocities towards Hindus was the British sedition laws which prevented the publication of books by Indian historians.
It was impossible to estimate the number of Indian casualties; however, Indian casualties in just the Lucknow Residency area ran upwards of 20,000.
British also adopted a policy of starving Indians to death.
So, apparently, as long as Cliff's religion is the religion, who is murdering innocent people; then . . .
Now JD, wasn't the British who stopped the Hindu practise of wive burning upon the death of the husband ? I believe it was referred to as Sarti if my memory serves me correctly JD.
@@giauscaesar8047
Lmao . . . and its just like the fockin christians to mind everyone else's business but their own.
You've just helped me prove my point
Thanks.
It was an ancient tradition called sati; whereby, a widow would throw herself on her husband’s funeral pyre. This was voluntary and considered heroic, and a sign of love, and devotion.
No one ever forced her against her will; however, because the British were shocked by this tradition they rumored she was being forced or coerced in some way.
The symbolisms of fire has a different meaning in India then it does in the west.
@@giauscaesar8047 Just out of interest Giaus, would you say that setting fire to someone would be regarded as highly immoral in your view?
@@bonnie43uk Well I believe that the Christian administrators when confronted by a delegation of Hindu's. Complaining that they could not abolish that practise as it was part of their tradition. The British responded by saying that they also had a tradition that any man who burned a woman. would be hanged & his property confiscated. So you practise your tradition & we will practise ours which must have come to as a great relief to the Hindu female population.
@@giauscaesar8047 thats interesting, but going back to my question, would you say that setting fire to someone would be regarded as highly immoral in your view? For me personally, it would certainly rank up there as one of the most horrific things any human could do to another human being.
10:45 - "The burden of proof is on you!" And given the God of the Bible, we have a rational basis for saying that murder is always wrong. The atheist/cynic believes murder is wrong as well, but has no rational basis for believing that is actually true. (Just note some of the comments from resident trolls on this very channel.) So the Christian can shoulder the burden of proof; the atheist/cynic cannot.
And this is an idiotic take. As an atheist I can say I would prefer to live in an society that subjectively believes murder is wrong based purely on the fact I would not liked to be murdered. And I feel as that that line of thought is more rational then believing it is wrong because a book claims a wizard says so.
@@OMGUKILLKENNY2
Preferences ≠ morality. You're not being rational, you are being arbitrary. Just saying... As for your facetious comment at the end (or was it just ignore-rantz?), again, that's plenty of emotion, not much rational thought.
@@jessebryant9233 I deem something wrong morally because I know I would not like to be on the receiving end of it. I would not liked to be harmed. Thus other may not like to be harmed. If both sides wish to avoid being harmed then causing needless harm must be wrong. Logical reasoning.
And how was my end statement wrong? Do you not claim your "objective morality" comes from the authority of the wizard written about in your book?
@@OMGUKILLKENNY2
Oh, YOU deem-YOU determine what is right or wrong because it is something you don't like? Seriously? But for sure, if we grant you your arbitrary starting point... ARBITRARY, Mr. South Park. C'mon man, pragmatism ≠ morality. And you're still showing your hatred for the only possible source or objective moral values and standards by being snarky and saying "wizard"? But apparently, YOU fancy yourself to be the Wonderful Wizard! Also, I haven't authored any books so I'm not sure what you mean by "your book"... (That's right, I can do what you do too. Ain't hard.)
@@jessebryant9233 Subjective does not mean arbitrary. A subjective opinion can still come as a result of reasonable thought, as I have shown with giving my reasoning for my morals.
Morals merely are a sense of right and wrong. Pragmatism is a perfectly fine foundation for one's morals.
And what is the difference between the term wizard and god? Both are character types that use magic to bend reality to their will.
The Woman is right about the answer Cliff gave.
16:16 I’ve seen this a few times now on cliffe’s interactions and it’s still baffling. “ Resuscitating from the dead doesn’t all of a sudden give me godship.” Why do they completely jump over all of the torture and time that took place before his death? There is no way someone could go through all of that then rise from the dead after three days. Especially with no agent other than the Holy Spirit to bring them back. Not to mention Jesus literally called his death and resurrection. What more could you ask for at that point?
Lol rising from the dead was a regular occurrence according to the biblical narratives, Lazarus, the daughter of Jairus and the tombs of all the saints opened and they walked around the town.🤭😅🤣 Although apart from Mathew no one seems to have noticed or bothered to write it down 🙄🤔 so it seems that rising from the dead was somewhat of a banality at the time 🤭🤣🤣😂😂
Whilst I have no doubt that Cliffe truly accepts the New Testament as being 'gospel truth' , I think the students have legitimate concerns for doubting whether Christianity is true, in every video he asks the students to read the Gospels and to ask themselves whether it reads as historical narrative or not. I'm not aware of to many historical accounts taken seriously that include supernatural accounts involving things which defy the laws of nature. Hence why many university students are not convinced of those New testament claims.
Well that concern is addressed pretty head on @17:49
@@ultrastar23 Yes, i have a presupposition that miracles do not occur, but it's based on various observations, including what I see around me, lack of credible evidence, total absence of any verifiable proof, etc. However, I am not a closed book, if presented with such evidence, and it checks out, I would be more than willing to adjust my thinking concerning miracles. But what I cannot do is accept someone's word, or a claim in a book that a supernatural miracle occurred.
If i told you I saw a man floating in mid air, and he floated up into the clouds, i think you'd be foolish to believe me. Or even if i told you that a man laid his hands over a blind mans eyes, and when he took his hands away, that blind man had regained his sight, .. again, you'd be foolish to believe me without sound verifiable evidence.
What "legitimate concerns" would those be and what's it to you anyhow? But then you have concerns based upon your own naturalistic assumptions (which you cannot demonstrate is even possible, let alone true). So if you assume one thing that you can't prove in order to argue against something else while ignoring the entire premise... Seems to be that you are demonstrating Proverbs 26:12 as usual.
Yeah, see the 18:00 mark. (Perhaps Bonnie didn't make it that far?)
Thanks, Tom. Aside from the alleged miracles supposedly performed by Jesus, themselves, even the situations that led to the need for him to step in with miracles in the first place also seem suspiciously made up to me. A bit like the way the comics make up highly unlikely scenarios for superheroes like Superman and Spiderman to come in and save the day but how often do any of those things happen in real life?
For example (I mentioned this to someone else), the wedding where they 'ran out of wine', I mean, yes, mistakes can happen when organising an event like a wedding, sure, but how likely is it that the people that organised that wedding or any wedding would overlook having enough wine for the guests? Didn't they do a check to see how many would attend?
I've been to two weddings and if anything, there is always plenty left over because the people that organise it purposely OVERESTIMATE attendance and consumption to be on the safe side, which is sensible. it would be sllly not to. If you know that you will have 100 guests attend an event you're organising, then if you're clever, you would provide enough food and drink for OVER 100.
It never seems to occur to believers to wonder about the likelihood of a wine shortage at a wedding. it just comes across to me like something that was made up just so the writers could then incorporate this story of Jesus saving the day with a miracle. I have little doubt that Jesus historically existed but I am highly suspicious that there was more made up about him than was fact, including turning water into wine.
I know many Christians might say "ah, you're missing the point, johnny boy, it was meant to symbolise the sanctity of marriage", yes, I get all that, I'm an ex-pentecostal, happy clappy believer that once said all of that stuff too but that's just avoiding scrutinizing the alleged miracle ITSELF and the highly unlikely circumstances surrounding it, which they understandably won't want to do.
Is there any way I can contact cliffe about a question I have? Always seems like no one asks the one question I struggle with lol
What's the question?
Who else thinks the blonde haired guy voice kinda sounds like Stewart’s lol I thought it was him at first but then I notice it was the younger cliff days
You can't have objective morality if there is no objective authority... It all simply breaks down to personal preferences.