Personally, I don't think it's worth $70 USD. It's very expensive, and I'm not sure if I can justify $70 for 20-30 hours for one playthrough. A RPG should have a TON more content to be played than just a week or two for the average gamer. (This includes weekends, for those of you who have jobs XD) Then again... this is coming from someone who has dumped $300 USD in Star Citizen, and it's always been hard to not compare SC with other space games.
I've been having alot of fun with Starfield, sure it's got a bunch of bug and glitches but personally I like that. Gives some funny moments that gets a good old hehe haha out of me.
Some people seem to forget that the "RP" in "RPG" stands for "role playing". Meaning a good RPG lets someone have more freedoms to create the character they truly want to immerse themselves as for this playthrough. Ffs they're actually complaining about having MORE options.
@@synpathy6729 My argument is people should be able to RP whatever they want, and giving them more choice in a character creator isn't a bad thing at all. People are complaining about something that doesn't affect their game at all outside of them constantly looking around outside to make sure the woke menace isn't waiting around the corner to beat them up.
@brad1426 but it doesn't...if let's say I want to be a gay male. Well, according to this concept, it is just an idea....not a reality. Because I can easily make all it correct, but at the end just go "nope" I'm a "she/her" But if a gay guy looked at me, they see thier sexual preference. I have dick, and I don't have boobs, i have the right parts. Which if another man sees that and wants that sexually...they are gay In order for a gay, or a lesbian...or even a transvestite (which still doesn't have ACTUAL representation as a chose in games, it's not futa porm guys). A gender needs to exist. What are gonna say thier now straight? Now, in games, they also have to be into me if I'm a female body but say I'm a "him/his" You see your not more options...you an "it" because "it" is always (everything). Not something
@@synpathy6729 Goes to character Creator* Creates Char including body type* Proceeds to Naming and press done Game Starts* at what point do you HAVE to? its an option, seriously you people freaking out about this single option are only exposing youre own raving stupidity.
The most stupid thing is that you literally don't need to do anything with it. It'll default to he/him or she/her based on the body type you pick and you don't have to interact with the option at all unless you CHOOSE to. Having such a ridiculous meltdown over it just blows my mind.
It’s more than that. Normal people are tired of this woke lgbtq trash and characters in games. Also only whites are the villians in Starfield . We are fed up. Boycotting
It’s more than that. Normal people are tired of this woke lgbtq trash and characters in games. Also only whites are the villians in Starfield . We are fed up. Boycotting
Why do people care so much about something so small in such a huge game? If it makes people happy to have pronouns in the game, let the people be happy
Honest Question, will you be okay with increasing the price of games $5 to $10 more to pay for the increased voice dialogue recording to include the ever growing list of identifying gender pronouns just to make everyone happy? What you find to be an insignificant issue will be used as an excuse to induce a price hike into the gaming industry.
@@codywright6224 That isn't why the game has a increased price lmfao. Triple AAA games in general are starting to become $70, has nothing to do with pronouns or Dialogue.
@@apotheosis2624 I was making an honest prediction of whats to come and a reason that they will provide. Not once did I say that this is a reason for the current pricing model, don't try to misconstrue my question.
@@AaronDukeYT I couldn't give less of a shit as to what you identify as? I have no stake in that game nor do I care to. My simple claim is as to who will end up fronting the bill for the myriad other pronouns that want to be included in the VA dialogue lineup now that the door has been swung open. We all know they ain't gonna repeat those lines 200+ times to include everyone for free. So take your transphobia and bigotry excuse to discredit my question and shove it.
I envy people who have such easy lives that the thing that fucks them up most in life is pronouns in video games; you really have no other problems, huh?
Cishet men yelling about anyone but them being able to feel represented in a game is peak "toddler wants someone else's birthday party to be his" energy. Also that line about California... *sigh*...do I even need to elaborate? Childish at best
It’s more than that. Normal people are tired of this woke lgbtq trash and characters in games. Also only whites are the villians in Starfield . We are fed up. Boycotting
I’m laughing in the back as a bloodhound main in apex legends Don’t let anything with gender or people who have an issue with it stop you from playing the game.
These are the same time of people who got mad at guys picking female characters in MMOs and use to call them weirdos for it. Becuase they where perving and hitting on all the female characters that walked past them.
@@romeunleashed2some of those guys that always play female characters are some of the chillest guys I’ve ever played with. Mostly all gay or lgbt in a way but you get my drift haha. It’s nice playing with men who aren’t gross and just love playing as bitches with amazing ass and back muscles
@@turkiedurkie4895 I meant the people calling the people who picked female weirdos are the ones who where pervy and hitted on all things. Lol I re-read my comment sounds like i meant the people who played as woman in games where pervy lol.
It’s more than that. Normal people are tired of this woke lgbtq trash and characters in games. Also only whites are the villians in Starfield . We are fed up. Boycotting
Honestly even in the sims community there was a minority of people who disliked the inclusion of pronouns and gender affirming surgery scars. In the sims. A game literally designed to create YOURSELF accurately
You’re missing the point, the pronouns are forced in character creation mode. You cannot choose a non applicable option. You HAVE to pick which pronouns you identify as. What if there are people who aren’t into that?
@@OcarinaHero93 You seem to be missing the point, are you upset between choosing between a man or a woman? (if you are, you are equally liable to be made fun of for the pronoun debacle). Are you upset being able to customize your character anything other than a white man? Or whatever one set of decision you wish so it's not "forced onto you?". I'm not trying to insult you, I am simply trying to get you to understand that this is basically the argument being done. I get it, I also am getting tired of the media stuff that is hurting certain things (not for inclusion, for the extremes like most people). This is a game that you can create your own character IN SPACE (it's why it's laughable the "current world" stuff is, because we're in the future. If this was in the olden days? Sure, but it's not) and one selection has 0 effect on you after. You can't defend the points when the totality of the argument is because it exists. Not that it's being shoved down your throat. You don't have to choose it, like all the options you don't choose it's a choice. It's truly that simple, and yes I'm aware that baby is being taken out of context for some of his other comments...but oddly? I don't find them as compelling when you put all of it together in the end because you can boil it all down into one point in the end. People are upset it exists in their games, even going as far as being upset about it existing in a choice/customization matters game...simple as that. Please see this issue and move on or you are going to be sadder for it. It's not that deep, it's honestly that easy to see how bad this take is. Trying to find those angles is why we still have KKK and all those type's of terrible people.
@@OcarinaHero93 You are absolutely wrong. They are not "forced" onto anyone. You have to manually change them if you want to. if you select a male, it will default to He/Him. When you select female, it changes to She/Her.
Nice video Aaron! Yeah this whole situation is so weird but i'm not gonna let that stop me from at least trying the game and giving my actual thoughts on it from the gameplay and graphics, etc. 👍
So wouldn't it make more sense for a future space age game to include pronouns? I'd understand if the game was set in the cold War or the 1800s or medieval Europe and trying to be historical yet allowing pronouns cause that is modern day sensibilities hamfisted into history.. but it's a sci fi game possibly set in the future, why -wouldn't- there be pronouns? Plus games allowing people to pick pronouns is so that people can immerse themselves into the game as more often than not, people who play rpgs want to make a character they personally identify with. It just seems childish to get upset at pronouns in a future sci fi - I'd understand the backlash more if this was set in the wild west of American history, or ancient rome as those tine periods wouldn't have "modern day sensibility", especially if they wanted to be historically accurate.
It’s more than that. Normal people are tired of this woke lgbtq trash and characters in games. Also only whites are the villians in Starfield . We are fed up. Boycotting
Character creation is one of the best aspects to any game for me. It’s always fun to let my imagination run wild and imagine or design the kind of character I would want or even want to look like. Being able to choose identifiers such as names and pronouns only adds to the immersion and makes it all the more fun! How have we as people reached a point in hatred and bigotry where we get mad at the idea of more freedom in choice and options?
What the fk is wrong with being able to chose your pronouns???? Dude so many people don’t even make their characters match their gender - so many guys will play female/feminine characters and vice versa like what’s the problem with being able to chose your pronouns 0.o
Remember the times people complained because there weren't enough features in a game but now according to recent popular games, there's too many...I can't play starfield myself because bad computer and all but the level of annoyances over video games is kind of reaching a bit of a limit. Bugs is one thing or glitches and map breaking issues but we really hit a mark in time where people are more focused on fear mongering ppl who might be new to gaming. Like I heard there was a real issue with the game that there's not enough to explore and things like that, but a pronoun chooser...guess they broke the entire world for some people.
A very unhinged reaction. But ultimately not surprising. It's the same thing we experienced in the Sims community when the devs added in the pronoun customizability and sexual/romantic attraction update in the Sims 4. This game already had queer couples and canonically trans character within long before this update as you had the opinion of customizing your characters reproduction capabilities, body frame and clothing preference and also because basically ever character in the game before the update was basically pan. So you would think that this alone would make bigots realize that they aren't welcome there right? Wrong. A part of community went completely banarnar when this update dropped, some of them were asking the devs if they could "turn off" these feature. The devs said no, stating that "Human identities are not features to be turned off irl and as sims reflects reality it would be disrespectful to do that in game" I hope Bethesda stand their ground against this clownery as well.
So is banning the mod to get rid of pronouns options from the game good? Why can't some people who don't want to participate in it have their freedom to do so? It is called double standards
Why do you want to get rid of the pronouns options? Odds are it’s because it reminds you of trans people or you think it’s too woke, right? So you want to destroy it. That’s the difference and the reason it’s not a double standard. We want pronouns in the game because it promotes inclusion and diversity. You want pronouns out of the game because you’re bigoted.
@@AaronDukeYT Hey, if pronouns are no big deal so why can't I get rid of them from my copy of the game? Why are you making a big fuss about it? And I have nothing against trans people just these fake ones calling they/them selves non-binary.
@@AaronDukeYT If it is no big deal why can't I? It is my right to protest against pushing politics into entertainment industry. Is it going to do anything to other people experience if I will get rid of this insanity from my game copy? NO
Yeah his “past controversies” haven’t exactly presented a good view of him 🙄 And I saw your video about the other guy so I knew you’d already talked about him
Nahhhh dude really said its boring to have more options, in an _RPG_ thats crazy. Whats boring to me is having to play the same characters for a decade. Come on, I've played so many white straight cis characters since 2000's, & I love many of those characters, but the second we get some options its too much all of a sudden. 🙄
When I play an RPG, I like to make an idealized version of myself to roam the world that the game offers. Everyone else should have that opportunity as well. The fact that these guys & others like them are getting their panties in that big a bunch over PRONOUNS IN A GAME just blows my mind. As stated, there are legitimate criticisms for the game but no, these clowns are hung up over how people want to be addressed. I am not currently interested in Starfield because the trailer didn’t grab me. Simple as that.
I'm male i have always been the type to pick a woman to play in mmos or RPGs. We are the onces who got called weird for just wanting to play a woman. I remember when it use to be a omg you can play a woman that is creepy and it shouldn't be allowed. This just reminds me of then. except back then it was becuase the guys where all too pervy and hitted on any female character lol
Said nothing about politics being involved in these suggestions. I said we shouldn’t be rewarding people who show bigotry and hatred, that’s got nothing to do with politics
These people who are angry and don't want to acknowledge they/them as pronouns need to go watch the episode of Schoolhouse Rock with Rufus Xavier Sarsaparilla.
It’s more than that. Normal people are tired of this woke lgbtq trash and characters in games. Also only whites are the villians in Starfield . We are fed up. Boycotting
I really don’t understand how people come to these types of breakdowns. It’s a small detail that doesn’t affect them so there’s no need to rage. Also how does having inclusivity in a small part of a game (especially your own character creation) make the experience different?
It doesnt even affect gameplay. Who the hell is playing a single player first person perspective space game to be referred to in the third person? It's literally just flavor text for the character identification.
I mean to be fair people would also freak the fuck out if you misgender them (especially accidentally), which is also a tiny thing EDIT: I'm not saying *everyone* would freak out. I mean a small vocal minority, just like whats happening here: a small - but very vocal - minority freaks out over absolutely nothing.
Most people that are misgendered will not snap at you. Most people understand that its normally a mistake. It’s the people that purposefully misgender others that tend to get yelled at more often because they’ve been informed and often been polite and cordial in which that person then maliciously continues to be disrespectful and use incorrect pronouns. Because using someone’s correct pronouns doesn’t do anything to you, and purposefully using the opposite makes you an ass.
@@AaronDukeYT Of course of course, I'm not saying everyone would freak out. I could've probably phrased that better. I'm saying a small (however vocal, since they have the most fierce reaction) minority would freak out. I think the same goes here, where a small and vocal minority absolutely freaks out over something that barely affects them, if not doesn't affect them at all.
While I agree with everything you said, as a huge Pokemon fan I would be remiss if I didn't mention that you actually couldn't choose your gender in the first Pokemon games. Not until Crystal did you have that luxury, in RBY you were male, in GS you were male, but Crystal introduced the first female protagonist in a Pokemon game.
That guy went on a multi-minute rant about a button in a character selector that you zoom past in one second. I honestly pity people like that, who are so high on "pronouns bad" that they can't see that their life is quite literally unaffected in every conceivable way. It's like they've gone so long without being marginalized that they forgot what it feels like and think anyone other than them receiving recognition is it. Honestly I hope more and more games add they/them options so it becomes the norm and people can stop pretending it somehow affects them negatively :3
I don't recall people freaking out when BG3 lets you give women man-bits and men women-bits... but hey, at least they don't have a pronoun selector. Transphobic Shenanigans.
Aaahhhh hahaha. I love that you used the AzvsBabyheels guy. I’ve seen him on a lot of film/TV CZcams content and the guy often goes way over the line. He makes me cringe.
I’m a little late here, saw the video but didn’t get to comment. I remember having a mindset like this fella years ago when the “ anti sjw” videos were at a peak.. I wasn’t happy I was a sad mean hateful person who was honestly extremely closeted my whole early childhood. I was afraid of getting bullied and just agreed with whatever they said. In my mind though I secretly loved played as lgbt+ identifying characters and romancing them even as the same sex it felt great as a closeted 14-15 year old young lady at the time but also shameful of how much it contradicted what I was being fed by these “ anti sjws”. I’m 22 now I identify as bisexual person who goes by she/her or they/them because as I got older I learned that I’d rather get bullied for simply being who I am and making characters like me and my friends, embracing that instead of being afraid or hateful towards something I don’t even understand yet or doesn’t even apply to me. Sorry if this comment felt like a ME ME ME kind of comment I just wanted to get that out in case any young people see this video and this comment section who have the SAME mindset as the angry guy covered in Aaron’s video. Love each other and most importantly and cheesily love your god damn self and focus on yourself
I think the 'Hey you, you're finally awake' comparison is while a well known choice one that doesn't hit as hard home as you'd like Additionally, I think if studios pick not based on just popularity but if they're decent folk is more than acceptable for the community at large WITH ONE CAVIAT IF it gets twitter mob-ey, by that i mean one mistake even though it's no longer who they are or what they represent can sink a otherwise good person from collaberations with...well any studio i don't think that's entirely fair, since if you dig deep enough you can find something about ANYONE that is morally fucked in someones past, a joke they made once in private or public, things they used to be into to even people they supported, So if it's a genuine how are they holding themselves up to being a decent person NOW then yes i think its a good thing, But if people changing who they are for the better is meaningless then i think we'd have a lot less people changing themeselves for the better and more people doubling down on the hateful shit that they spew. For me it's like crimminals, If you reform but can't get a job as a former thief. you'll just go back to stealing things again. Because you tried being better but oppertunity wasn't there. There is a VERY fine line that this way of thinking walks and i just really REALLY hope those picking who collaberatese with who are careful with it. Otherwise from those two (Admitedly minor points ) Yeah completely agree with what ya said
I mean, why do we need pride month like couldn’t be a day. They already have their own month. We already see it on TikTok everywhere in countries are celebrating it, so why do we need in video games now I don’t get it.
On the whole topic of "keep politics out of gaming" I was gonna list every RPG I could think of with political themes but like... That's a long ass list that noone wants to read.
Also, isn't recognizing pronouns something we do currently? I ask this because I'm assuming Starfield is IN THE FUTUUUUUUUUURE. And guess what? The future will have this as even more accepted by more people than we currently have. So those who're crying and dumping in their diaps can suck an egg.
I mean, they could exclude themselves from whatever they disagree with. I'd rather have them leave the community than harass others, but I do hope they will become more open minded in the future.
"We can't see past our own reflexion" from the white bald man who created as a character in Starfield a white bald man ... I don't understand why people play RPGs to constantly play the same type of character. Playing different type of characters is the biggest point of the RPG.
This whole thing just reminded me how baffling this all is when in another good indie game about a couple called Haven? They added a update that changed both the genders of the male and female protags. The game was voice acted in too and lines and recordings had to be redone to fit this. Which according to some notes was the intent. The thing is this was done to have same sex couples in the game. So the male can become female and it's female/female or the female becomes male and it's male/male. It's insinuated they want to add the last "pair" which I assume is just them changing both characters to be opposites and bam. It was a neat idea that added value for multiple playthroughs, but the comments on the steam page was WILDLY upset for some people. Going as far as saying this ruined the game for them. Most of those comments echoed similar thoughts, "I loved/liked the game, now I regret playing it because of this. Waste of money for content we didn't want" which I guess I get...but it was a free update. All it did was add, and maybe there's a argument for putting that money somewhere else. But I don't expect stardew valley to put guns into the game if I hate a certain update...it was their intentions from the start and it's wild to me that a options that you only see the first minute of starting a game and what of the 3 pairings you will choose won't ever affect your experience. The game didn't change, it's the same game with more now. I'm so baffled in peoples inability to see that they are being crazy with these takes. I know what they are trying to say, we all do with media. But holy crap some people need to think more than be upset about these things. Great vid Aaron, sadly i was a happy camper until I saw your video about this guy and now I'm sadly informed on the crazy of the internet once more lol
I think from his perspective Aaron a lot of people are sick of the whole gendering thing, does it make it right? No. But People are genuinely tired of having "He/Her/Them/They/It" pronouns shoved down their throats. I personally aint a big fan either, and wouldnt go firing on all cylinders like in the rant here however I genuinely understand why he's frustrated. The reason I personally dont approve of it either is because I always believed in the whole "He/She" side of things I personally believe there is only 2 genders, Male or Female, He or she. I personally dont believe in the whole gender neutral nonsense, but if people want to label themselves are them/they, then I aint gonna hold it against them personally. Where I have the beef is where games or mainstream media or mainstream gaming tries to force it down my throat. This is not intolerance towards "Them/They" this is intolerance towards it being forced upon us. And as far as the politics in games are concerned im sorry im siding with Dr Disrespect. A lot of companies should be focusing on what makes them more money or what will promote their game, NOT what will make them look good because they can virtue signal the hardest just because they are inclusive of "They/Them". Im not saying they shouldnt pick other parts of the community completely, but what I AM saying is that they shouldnt ignore people who may well be more logical from a marketing perspective just because somebody took DrDisrespects words out of context... And lets face it, a LOT of people outside of the gaming world who are white are pretty badly persecuted by mainstream media, and even government officials (and in the UK as you well knnow, Sadiq Khan who thinks white families are not real londoners)
No one is shoving anything down your throat, I’m so sick of hearing that. A game asking you what your pronouns are is respectful, nothing else. If you can’t handle it, don’t play the game
@@AaronDukeYT Ok I'll put this a different way: Would you prefer it if a game developer focused more on pronouns, or would you prefer people to have a game that is more refined and polished BEFORE going into providing pronouns for those people? I know what I would put first. For me, the game comes first, and when you have a more polished game, and/or you have some time spare, THEN you can focus on the pronouns. Or better still, ASK the community first. If people want it in the game, then by all means put it in the game. I would have absolutely no objections if they went down that route and the community came out and said "Yes we want pronouns in the game". And Aaron, its nothing to do with I cant handle anything. I dont even have the game yet, maybe I'll buy it in a years time, maybe I'll not buy it at all, but it is not your right to tell people whether or not the should play the game.
Are you a developer? You seem to talk a bit about the sacrifices to the games quality for a pronoun option, so tell me how it takes away? Asking as a computer scientist btw.
One thing I do not understand is why such a big backlash from Starfield's Pronouns choices but Baldur's Gate 3 didn't? You could literally choose your genitals for your character in BG3, but people are up in arms over how Bethesda put Pronouns on there? Are they not aware that Pronouns are a natural part of human language? Also I am not taking a dig at BG3 for the genital choices, I actually thought it was super inclusive and amazing BG3 took that extra step, I just don't understand the outrage people have over Starfield
It’s more than that. Normal people are tired of this woke lgbtq trash and characters in games. Also only whites are the villians in Starfield . We are fed up. Boycotting
The "fucking pronouns" is going to be on my mind for weeks. It will be my ringtone. W video Aaron, what a stupid thing for people to be mad about. Verbs are going to blow them away next.
So far I’ve enjoyed my play through. I wonder what these guys would have said about my Trans Gender V in Cyber punk. I enjoy making various characters it gives variety to my Avatar and Game.
These silly sausages that are overrating to a game asking what pronouns they want their character to have are the same type of people that say that the transgender community cares to much about pronouns but I've never seen transgender person get this mad over pronouns maybe get upset yeah but that normally because there is more aggression behind it when someone constantly uses the wrong ones on purpose. The default in the game is He/Him dude just click next, are they going to get angry next time they need to fill out form and it asks for their title like 90% forms have for years because they need to select Mr/Mrs/Miss/Ms/Dr. I really don't get why people get made about pronouns so much, when its just a question!
So, like when you’re playing a game as a set story character? Honestly, wouldn’t mind personally but I would also understand the impact of such a decision in an RPG character creation environment
@@AaronDukeYT you may think it's not but ask a lot of people and they'll probably agree. I'm not defending the boycott because boycotting a game over something like that is also cringe. So lose lose either way you look at it
@@Autisrooyeah. Addin more personality to your character created in ROLEPLAY game is cringe. Guess you don't want your character to be called he or she then
What I find interesting is that Baldur's Gate 3 not only let's you choose pronouns, but has a gender option of "non-binary" and we haven't heard a single word about that. Let's be real. "Streamers" are not boycotting Starfield over pronouns LOL. A few homophobic idiots are chiming in with their 2 cents. That is all. This entire issue is insignificant to 99.99999% of humans.
I hate that I used to watch and love the guy back when he played and made videos on WoW before he showed his colours. I shared his channel with my dad as it became a shared hobby of ours to play together. Only now to have my dad still following and parroting what this guy says. It honestly disgusts me how little care these people have for other people. Who cares if you're not trans/non binary or have any other place on the spectrum yourself. How difficult is it to remember a pronoun? For me it's so much easier than a name as you generally use it far more... and yet we still think it's polite to remember a name, so how is it out of order to ask people to be polite and remember tocare about what people prefer to be called.
everyone acually throwing a tantrum over this is an idiot like bro your playing a rpg stop complaining about the character creation. Aaron keep up the great work.
He does realise its 2023 right and some ppl dont identify as either male or female. Its good that games are starting to give more than 2 options for character gender customization i hope more games have that going forward
baldur's gate 3 also lets you pick your pronouns and im surprised there wasnt an outcry about it. plus all the characters will flirt with you no matter the gender
The comments are mostly positive but there is an almost 60/40 like dislike split, dislike spree off title names? Anyway this whole debacle can be described in 2 words: cringe worthy. Legit if ppl are this mad about something so minute, why not just refund/ not play it? But I guess people gotta rely on the nonsensical outrage instead of literally just doing the common sense, smart move called: walking away
Here is a question: Why are pronouns not a big deal, but religion is? Religion has been persecuted, while pronoun ideology is acceptable to be pushed off on others and others forced in different counties to support it like NAZIS. Are you really that big of a hypocrite? We have to accept pronouns but are harassed as a result of being religious. Religion can not be at work. However, pronouns are acceptable.
Its funny how people like you preach freedom and inclusivity but as someone voices a different opinion you call them a horrible person funny double standard
Nope, I call people horrible if they’re showcasing bigotry and hatred. People are always entitled to their opinions, but when you present it with rage and hatred it becomes an issue
@@AaronDukeYT it's bigotry to think multiple pronouns are dumb and them invading entertainment is even dumber. It's not inclusivity it's a checkbox to them so you eat up their bullshit they don't care I'm gay and I still don't believe this
If your freedoms exist to come at the cost of others it's not freedom, it's oppression. The opinion "trans people shouldn't exist, have representation, be allowed to have representation, etc" isn't simply an opinion. Swap trans person with a particular race and see how fast you go from "opinionated" to nazi. Of course this thought process already is if you studied ww2 history, I'll assume you have? The idea of deplatforming and demonizing an entire populace isn't a freedom, it's a privilege granted by power. It's not just an opinion to hate. Your words actions and requests have consequences, your constitution or religious text won't stop that.
1.) Pronouns are gender-specific by default 2.) Pronouns aren’t actually referenced all that often in the game, as Bethesda has stepped back from the fully voiced protagonist of Fallout 4 to the earlier generic guy/girl without a voice. 3.) Much of the outrage is manufactured. People who were determined to hate the game found ab easy target. 4.) Nobody got this fired up about Cyberpunk 2077 and you can literally add a d*** to your otherwise female character (or vice versa), making the protagonist a literal transvestite… but no pronouns, cause those are linked to the masculine/feminine voice.
@@AaronDukeYT Like, I wish I had nothing else to worry about in life like these snowflakes do to worry about about words. Also omg thank you for replying...
Personally IDC whether or not a game has pronouns, I just make the character I want, play and have fun. If pronouns make other people happy then I am happy for them. IDK why people make such a big deal out of whether or not games have them because realistically speaking its just a he/she/they/other, it literally doesn't matter except for a minority of people who are happy to find that there. Inclusivity like that is not politics, its just making a group of people happier and that is perfectly fine. People want to play who they are, who they want to be, or they play a character that they want to roleplay as in that world, or they just like who they make, or they want to stare at a pretty arse and its all fine, let people play and do what they want, we do not need any of this drama from those who want to call pronouns politics. I do not think your example with skyrim was the best one TBH, I wouldn't call just calling someone you a pronoun, its a neutral word(its not a gendered word at all) to call out to someone, but I understand the message you are trying to get across.
Bethesda: The next Fallout & Skyrim game will have pronouns Gamer: WE’RE SO FUCKIN BORING How dare they add pronouns in a game, damn outrageous, ima get a refund and boycotting EVERY Bethesda game now X’D I’m so surprised that people (I really hope it’s that one individual cause oh boy) really are getting upset over adding pronoun pfft
Why is everyone getting up upset over god damm pronouns? It's just like why? what's wrong with pronouns like I'm so confused like why getting upset over pronouns when there are bigger problems and yet we like "ah yes let's get upset over a god damm video game cuz it has pronouns but no don't get upset and with thee fact there are some people who have a platform that don't deserve it"
Are you planning to play Starfield? Or do the pronouns scare you too much?
Managed to clock in 20 hours over the weekend, barring some performance issues I've enjoyed my time on it
Personally, I don't think it's worth $70 USD. It's very expensive, and I'm not sure if I can justify $70 for 20-30 hours for one playthrough. A RPG should have a TON more content to be played than just a week or two for the average gamer. (This includes weekends, for those of you who have jobs XD) Then again... this is coming from someone who has dumped $300 USD in Star Citizen, and it's always been hard to not compare SC with other space games.
I've been having alot of fun with Starfield, sure it's got a bunch of bug and glitches but personally I like that. Gives some funny moments that gets a good old hehe haha out of me.
Personally not that interested in the game, but OH NO, THE "YOU" WORD, I'M SO ANGRY!!! *cries*
No, not my thing
Some people seem to forget that the "RP" in "RPG" stands for "role playing".
Meaning a good RPG lets someone have more freedoms to create the character they truly want to immerse themselves as for this playthrough. Ffs they're actually complaining about having MORE options.
So your argument is that I have to RP an "it"...
Since I can just change the pronoun to the opposite tommorow so why even bother. .just write it
@@synpathy6729 My argument is people should be able to RP whatever they want, and giving them more choice in a character creator isn't a bad thing at all.
People are complaining about something that doesn't affect their game at all outside of them constantly looking around outside to make sure the woke menace isn't waiting around the corner to beat them up.
@brad1426 but it doesn't...if let's say I want to be a gay male. Well, according to this concept, it is just an idea....not a reality. Because I can easily make all it correct, but at the end just go "nope" I'm a "she/her"
But if a gay guy looked at me, they see thier sexual preference. I have dick, and I don't have boobs, i have the right parts. Which if another man sees that and wants that sexually...they are gay
In order for a gay, or a lesbian...or even a transvestite (which still doesn't have ACTUAL representation as a chose in games, it's not futa porm guys). A gender needs to exist.
What are gonna say thier now straight? Now, in games, they also have to be into me if I'm a female body but say I'm a "him/his"
You see your not more options...you an "it" because "it" is always (everything). Not something
@@synpathy6729
Goes to character Creator*
Creates Char including body type*
Proceeds to Naming and press done
Game Starts*
at what point do you HAVE to? its an option, seriously you people freaking out about this single option are only exposing youre own raving stupidity.
That's a good point. A role playing game should include every type of person including delusional people
The most stupid thing is that you literally don't need to do anything with it. It'll default to he/him or she/her based on the body type you pick and you don't have to interact with the option at all unless you CHOOSE to. Having such a ridiculous meltdown over it just blows my mind.
"Because you can choose your pronouns" I laughed so hard because that was so dumb and unexpected. Love Your vids.
Thank you for your support! 💙
It’s more than that. Normal people are tired of this woke lgbtq trash and characters in games. Also only whites are the villians in Starfield . We are fed up. Boycotting
It’s more than that. Normal people are tired of this woke lgbtq trash and characters in games. Also only whites are the villians in Starfield . We are fed up. Boycotting
Why do people care so much about something so small in such a huge game? If it makes people happy to have pronouns in the game, let the people be happy
Honest Question, will you be okay with increasing the price of games $5 to $10 more to pay for the increased voice dialogue recording to include the ever growing list of identifying gender pronouns just to make everyone happy? What you find to be an insignificant issue will be used as an excuse to induce a price hike into the gaming industry.
@codywright6224 oh shush, that literally won’t happen 😂 Don’t try and create bullshit hypotheticals to justify your transphobia and bigotry
@@codywright6224 That isn't why the game has a increased price lmfao. Triple AAA games in general are starting to become $70, has nothing to do with pronouns or Dialogue.
@@apotheosis2624 I was making an honest prediction of whats to come and a reason that they will provide. Not once did I say that this is a reason for the current pricing model, don't try to misconstrue my question.
@@AaronDukeYT I couldn't give less of a shit as to what you identify as? I have no stake in that game nor do I care to. My simple claim is as to who will end up fronting the bill for the myriad other pronouns that want to be included in the VA dialogue lineup now that the door has been swung open. We all know they ain't gonna repeat those lines 200+ times to include everyone for free. So take your transphobia and bigotry excuse to discredit my question and shove it.
I envy people who have such easy lives that the thing that fucks them up most in life is pronouns in video games; you really have no other problems, huh?
Apparently not? 🤷♂️
Ikr? Wish I had that easy of a life.
I wonder if people are going to boycott games for using verbs, nouns and adjectives.
You know what. It’s true, it’s bs that you can pick your pronouns in Starfield…
When you can pick your pronouns AND genitalia in BG3.
Cishet men yelling about anyone but them being able to feel represented in a game is peak "toddler wants someone else's birthday party to be his" energy.
Also that line about California... *sigh*...do I even need to elaborate?
Childish at best
It’s more than that. Normal people are tired of this woke lgbtq trash and characters in games. Also only whites are the villians in Starfield . We are fed up. Boycotting
Cishet? Did you mean fishnet?
I’m laughing in the back as a bloodhound main in apex legends
Don’t let anything with gender or people who have an issue with it stop you from playing the game.
Why would someone be mad about an extra option on a character creator, an optional thing?
Exactly
These are the same time of people who got mad at guys picking female characters in MMOs and use to call them weirdos for it. Becuase they where perving and hitting on all the female characters that walked past them.
@@romeunleashed2some of those guys that always play female characters are some of the chillest guys I’ve ever played with. Mostly all gay or lgbt in a way but you get my drift haha. It’s nice playing with men who aren’t gross and just love playing as bitches with amazing ass and back muscles
@@turkiedurkie4895 I meant the people calling the people who picked female weirdos are the ones who where pervy and hitted on all things. Lol I re-read my comment sounds like i meant the people who played as woman in games where pervy lol.
It’s more than that. Normal people are tired of this woke lgbtq trash and characters in games. Also only whites are the villians in Starfield . We are fed up. Boycotting
Didn't need the camera to know that you were a ginger beard gen z
Nah I’m millennial fam
Honestly even in the sims community there was a minority of people who disliked the inclusion of pronouns and gender affirming surgery scars. In the sims. A game literally designed to create YOURSELF accurately
You’re missing the point, the pronouns are forced in character creation mode. You cannot choose a non applicable option. You HAVE to pick which pronouns you identify as. What if there are people who aren’t into that?
@@OcarinaHero93 whats so hard about it? pick one and move on
@@OcarinaHero93 You seem to be missing the point, are you upset between choosing between a man or a woman? (if you are, you are equally liable to be made fun of for the pronoun debacle). Are you upset being able to customize your character anything other than a white man? Or whatever one set of decision you wish so it's not "forced onto you?". I'm not trying to insult you, I am simply trying to get you to understand that this is basically the argument being done. I get it, I also am getting tired of the media stuff that is hurting certain things (not for inclusion, for the extremes like most people). This is a game that you can create your own character IN SPACE (it's why it's laughable the "current world" stuff is, because we're in the future. If this was in the olden days? Sure, but it's not) and one selection has 0 effect on you after. You can't defend the points when the totality of the argument is because it exists. Not that it's being shoved down your throat. You don't have to choose it, like all the options you don't choose it's a choice. It's truly that simple, and yes I'm aware that baby is being taken out of context for some of his other comments...but oddly? I don't find them as compelling when you put all of it together in the end because you can boil it all down into one point in the end.
People are upset it exists in their games, even going as far as being upset about it existing in a choice/customization matters game...simple as that. Please see this issue and move on or you are going to be sadder for it. It's not that deep, it's honestly that easy to see how bad this take is. Trying to find those angles is why we still have KKK and all those type's of terrible people.
@@OcarinaHero93how can you be “ into pronouns” it’s as simple as pick what you want this sim to identify as..why is that an issue? Oh wait
@@OcarinaHero93 You are absolutely wrong. They are not "forced" onto anyone. You have to manually change them if you want to. if you select a male, it will default to He/Him. When you select female, it changes to She/Her.
Man who SURELY has NEVER played as a female character in an RPG, right? Right?
Nice video Aaron! Yeah this whole situation is so weird but i'm not gonna let that stop me from at least trying the game and giving my actual thoughts on it from the gameplay and graphics, etc. 👍
At 7:22, so true
It's actually a cover-up
To get people talking about trans stuff vs. actually calling out starfield as boring lie it is.
I saw Kaiser Da Bards video on this and the fact that people are mad over simple vocabulary is just so funny to me
the irony that they're using pronouns while complaining about pronouns
7:51 I will say... you can completely ignore the button and just press next... it defaults to the bodytype (gender) you choose...
He wasn't just mad about the pronouns I saw that string that's just a short clip he was talking about entertainment in general
Channels like this take everything out of context.
@@abillypuppetthen stay away. Problem solved
@@sapphirethealpha5005 Don't worry, I will.
What’s crazy is that in baldurs gate you can change your pronouns in their game Aswell but no one is saying a word about that
So wouldn't it make more sense for a future space age game to include pronouns? I'd understand if the game was set in the cold War or the 1800s or medieval Europe and trying to be historical yet allowing pronouns cause that is modern day sensibilities hamfisted into history.. but it's a sci fi game possibly set in the future, why -wouldn't- there be pronouns?
Plus games allowing people to pick pronouns is so that people can immerse themselves into the game as more often than not, people who play rpgs want to make a character they personally identify with.
It just seems childish to get upset at pronouns in a future sci fi - I'd understand the backlash more if this was set in the wild west of American history, or ancient rome as those tine periods wouldn't have "modern day sensibility", especially if they wanted to be historically accurate.
The reason why people are boycotting Bethesda is that it is just Bethesda always dropping the ball when it comes marketing. They suck so bad.
True i've heard of starfield and still dont know what the game is about to be honest doesnt look interesting from the cover
jesus, that guy needs the biggest chill pill in existence..... now i wanna get the game even more.
It’s more than that. Normal people are tired of this woke lgbtq trash and characters in games. Also only whites are the villians in Starfield . We are fed up. Boycotting
Character creation is one of the best aspects to any game for me. It’s always fun to let my imagination run wild and imagine or design the kind of character I would want or even want to look like. Being able to choose identifiers such as names and pronouns only adds to the immersion and makes it all the more fun! How have we as people reached a point in hatred and bigotry where we get mad at the idea of more freedom in choice and options?
What the fk is wrong with being able to chose your pronouns???? Dude so many people don’t even make their characters match their gender - so many guys will play female/feminine characters and vice versa like what’s the problem with being able to chose your pronouns 0.o
Remember the times people complained because there weren't enough features in a game but now according to recent popular games, there's too many...I can't play starfield myself because bad computer and all but the level of annoyances over video games is kind of reaching a bit of a limit. Bugs is one thing or glitches and map breaking issues but we really hit a mark in time where people are more focused on fear mongering ppl who might be new to gaming. Like I heard there was a real issue with the game that there's not enough to explore and things like that, but a pronoun chooser...guess they broke the entire world for some people.
I'm still in the thralls of my Baldur's Gate 3 addiction but I hope everyone else enjoys Starfield
A very unhinged reaction. But ultimately not surprising. It's the same thing we experienced in the Sims community when the devs added in the pronoun customizability and sexual/romantic attraction update in the Sims 4. This game already had queer couples and canonically trans character within long before this update as you had the opinion of customizing your characters reproduction capabilities, body frame and clothing preference and also because basically ever character in the game before the update was basically pan. So you would think that this alone would make bigots realize that they aren't welcome there right? Wrong. A part of community went completely banarnar when this update dropped, some of them were asking the devs if they could "turn off" these feature. The devs said no, stating that "Human identities are not features to be turned off irl and as sims reflects reality it would be disrespectful to do that in game"
I hope Bethesda stand their ground against this clownery as well.
So is banning the mod to get rid of pronouns options from the game good? Why can't some people who don't want to participate in it have their freedom to do so? It is called double standards
Why do you want to get rid of the pronouns options? Odds are it’s because it reminds you of trans people or you think it’s too woke, right? So you want to destroy it. That’s the difference and the reason it’s not a double standard. We want pronouns in the game because it promotes inclusion and diversity. You want pronouns out of the game because you’re bigoted.
@@AaronDukeYT Hey, if pronouns are no big deal so why can't I get rid of them from my copy of the game? Why are you making a big fuss about it? And I have nothing against trans people just these fake ones calling they/them selves non-binary.
If they’re no big deal, why do you want to remove them?
@@AaronDukeYT If it is no big deal why can't I? It is my right to protest against pushing politics into entertainment industry. Is it going to do anything to other people experience if I will get rid of this insanity from my game copy? NO
@Artemowski There it is, the idea that a humans identity is political. Rewatch the video if you want my answer to your nonsense
I had saw the first guy but I didnt know about the Dr Disrespect thing and my god am I not suprised
Yeah his “past controversies” haven’t exactly presented a good view of him 🙄 And I saw your video about the other guy so I knew you’d already talked about him
Im too old for this shit fam i just wanna play 😂😂
Nahhhh dude really said its boring to have more options, in an _RPG_ thats crazy. Whats boring to me is having to play the same characters for a decade. Come on, I've played so many white straight cis characters since 2000's, & I love many of those characters, but the second we get some options its too much all of a sudden. 🙄
I feel like grown ass adults who throw tantrums over the littlest things such as pronouns need to be scientifically studied.
It’s definitely an interesting phenomenon 🤔
Every streamer needs that "Fucking pronouns!" high pitch scream as a channel alert.
When I play an RPG, I like to make an idealized version of myself to roam the world that the game offers. Everyone else should have that opportunity as well. The fact that these guys & others like them are getting their panties in that big a bunch over PRONOUNS IN A GAME just blows my mind. As stated, there are legitimate criticisms for the game but no, these clowns are hung up over how people want to be addressed.
I am not currently interested in Starfield because the trailer didn’t grab me. Simple as that.
I'm male i have always been the type to pick a woman to play in mmos or RPGs. We are the onces who got called weird for just wanting to play a woman. I remember when it use to be a omg you can play a woman that is creepy and it shouldn't be allowed. This just reminds me of then. except back then it was becuase the guys where all too pervy and hitted on any female character lol
Is there even a choice to pick a man or woman? If so who cares pick the one that applies to you. It would be stupid if you can only pick they or them.
No hate to your channel but I found it scary that you suggested that you should politically select streamers for a game rather than for their content.
Said nothing about politics being involved in these suggestions. I said we shouldn’t be rewarding people who show bigotry and hatred, that’s got nothing to do with politics
"Ignorant sausages"
Do people forget Starfield is a RPG?
if not
Do people forget what it stands for?
This is ideal game for a 10 year old 😂
These people who are angry and don't want to acknowledge they/them as pronouns need to go watch the episode of Schoolhouse Rock with Rufus Xavier Sarsaparilla.
It’s more than that. Normal people are tired of this woke lgbtq trash and characters in games. Also only whites are the villians in Starfield . We are fed up. Boycotting
I really don’t understand how people come to these types of breakdowns. It’s a small detail that doesn’t affect them so there’s no need to rage. Also how does having inclusivity in a small part of a game (especially your own character creation) make the experience different?
People like that need to find better hobbies than getting worked up over something that doesn't actually affect them in any way...
It doesnt even affect gameplay.
Who the hell is playing a single player first person perspective space game to be referred to in the third person?
It's literally just flavor text for the character identification.
Ngl, didn't know "you" was pronoun. You learn something new everyday. Also great vid.
I mean to be fair people would also freak the fuck out if you misgender them (especially accidentally), which is also a tiny thing
EDIT: I'm not saying *everyone* would freak out. I mean a small vocal minority, just like whats happening here: a small - but very vocal - minority freaks out over absolutely nothing.
Not necessarily, most people are very understanding and are okay with it as long as you show that youre aware of the mistake and make steps to learn
Most people that are misgendered will not snap at you. Most people understand that its normally a mistake.
It’s the people that purposefully misgender others that tend to get yelled at more often because they’ve been informed and often been polite and cordial in which that person then maliciously continues to be disrespectful and use incorrect pronouns.
Because using someone’s correct pronouns doesn’t do anything to you, and purposefully using the opposite makes you an ass.
@@AaronDukeYT Of course of course, I'm not saying everyone would freak out. I could've probably phrased that better.
I'm saying a small (however vocal, since they have the most fierce reaction) minority would freak out. I think the same goes here, where a small and vocal minority absolutely freaks out over something that barely affects them, if not doesn't affect them at all.
While I agree with everything you said, as a huge Pokemon fan I would be remiss if I didn't mention that you actually couldn't choose your gender in the first Pokemon games. Not until Crystal did you have that luxury, in RBY you were male, in GS you were male, but Crystal introduced the first female protagonist in a Pokemon game.
Reminds me of the people who got just as mad about Cyberpunk 2077 having masculine and feminine voice options for both sexes
That guy went on a multi-minute rant about a button in a character selector that you zoom past in one second.
I honestly pity people like that, who are so high on "pronouns bad" that they can't see that their life is quite literally unaffected in every conceivable way. It's like they've gone so long without being marginalized that they forgot what it feels like and think anyone other than them receiving recognition is it.
Honestly I hope more and more games add they/them options so it becomes the norm and people can stop pretending it somehow affects them negatively :3
Their life is unaffected by it...until it isn't.
I don't recall people freaking out when BG3 lets you give women man-bits and men women-bits... but hey, at least they don't have a pronoun selector. Transphobic Shenanigans.
Are those gender options in my Pokémon game?!?! Ohhh the Horrror 🫣
#Boycott
I cant believe that guy is a real person.
Aaahhhh hahaha. I love that you used the AzvsBabyheels guy. I’ve seen him on a lot of film/TV CZcams content and the guy often goes way over the line. He makes me cringe.
I’m a little late here, saw the video but didn’t get to comment. I remember having a mindset like this fella years ago when the “ anti sjw” videos were at a peak.. I wasn’t happy I was a sad mean hateful person who was honestly extremely closeted my whole early childhood. I was afraid of getting bullied and just agreed with whatever they said. In my mind though I secretly loved played as lgbt+ identifying characters and romancing them even as the same sex it felt great as a closeted 14-15 year old young lady at the time but also shameful of how much it contradicted what I was being fed by these “ anti sjws”. I’m 22 now I identify as bisexual person who goes by she/her or they/them because as I got older I learned that I’d rather get bullied for simply being who I am and making characters like me and my friends, embracing that instead of being afraid or hateful towards something I don’t even understand yet or doesn’t even apply to me. Sorry if this comment felt like a ME ME ME kind of comment I just wanted to get that out in case any young people see this video and this comment section who have the SAME mindset as the angry guy covered in Aaron’s video. Love each other and most importantly and cheesily love your god damn self and focus on yourself
There’s no way he’s for real…right? 😅
I think the 'Hey you, you're finally awake' comparison is while a well known choice one that doesn't hit as hard home as you'd like
Additionally, I think if studios pick not based on just popularity but if they're decent folk is more than acceptable for the community at large WITH ONE CAVIAT
IF it gets twitter mob-ey, by that i mean one mistake even though it's no longer who they are or what they represent can sink a otherwise good person from collaberations with...well any studio i don't think that's entirely fair, since if you dig deep enough you can find something about ANYONE that is morally fucked in someones past, a joke they made once in private or public, things they used to be into to even people they supported,
So if it's a genuine how are they holding themselves up to being a decent person NOW then yes i think its a good thing,
But if people changing who they are for the better is meaningless then i think we'd have a lot less people changing themeselves for the better and more people doubling down on the hateful shit that they spew.
For me it's like crimminals, If you reform but can't get a job as a former thief. you'll just go back to stealing things again. Because you tried being better but oppertunity wasn't there. There is a VERY fine line that this way of thinking walks and i just really REALLY hope those picking who collaberatese with who are careful with it.
Otherwise from those two (Admitedly minor points ) Yeah completely agree with what ya said
I like that they are including this but ultimately I don't buy Bethesda games beyond Skyrim.
I mean, why do we need pride month like couldn’t be a day. They already have their own month. We already see it on TikTok everywhere in countries are celebrating it, so why do we need in video games now I don’t get it.
On the whole topic of "keep politics out of gaming" I was gonna list every RPG I could think of with political themes but like... That's a long ass list that noone wants to read.
Also, isn't recognizing pronouns something we do currently? I ask this because I'm assuming Starfield is IN THE FUTUUUUUUUUURE. And guess what? The future will have this as even more accepted by more people than we currently have. So those who're crying and dumping in their diaps can suck an egg.
people who get upset over something as little as Pronouns have serious insecurity issues.
I mean, they could exclude themselves from whatever they disagree with. I'd rather have them leave the community than harass others, but I do hope they will become more open minded in the future.
they/them is for plural
"We can't see past our own reflexion" from the white bald man who created as a character in Starfield a white bald man ...
I don't understand why people play RPGs to constantly play the same type of character. Playing different type of characters is the biggest point of the RPG.
This whole thing just reminded me how baffling this all is when in another good indie game about a couple called Haven? They added a update that changed both the genders of the male and female protags. The game was voice acted in too and lines and recordings had to be redone to fit this. Which according to some notes was the intent. The thing is this was done to have same sex couples in the game. So the male can become female and it's female/female or the female becomes male and it's male/male. It's insinuated they want to add the last "pair" which I assume is just them changing both characters to be opposites and bam. It was a neat idea that added value for multiple playthroughs, but the comments on the steam page was WILDLY upset for some people. Going as far as saying this ruined the game for them.
Most of those comments echoed similar thoughts, "I loved/liked the game, now I regret playing it because of this. Waste of money for content we didn't want" which I guess I get...but it was a free update. All it did was add, and maybe there's a argument for putting that money somewhere else. But I don't expect stardew valley to put guns into the game if I hate a certain update...it was their intentions from the start and it's wild to me that a options that you only see the first minute of starting a game and what of the 3 pairings you will choose won't ever affect your experience. The game didn't change, it's the same game with more now. I'm so baffled in peoples inability to see that they are being crazy with these takes. I know what they are trying to say, we all do with media. But holy crap some people need to think more than be upset about these things.
Great vid Aaron, sadly i was a happy camper until I saw your video about this guy and now I'm sadly informed on the crazy of the internet once more lol
I think from his perspective Aaron a lot of people are sick of the whole gendering thing, does it make it right? No. But People are genuinely tired of having "He/Her/Them/They/It" pronouns shoved down their throats. I personally aint a big fan either, and wouldnt go firing on all cylinders like in the rant here however I genuinely understand why he's frustrated.
The reason I personally dont approve of it either is because I always believed in the whole "He/She" side of things I personally believe there is only 2 genders, Male or Female, He or she. I personally dont believe in the whole gender neutral nonsense, but if people want to label themselves are them/they, then I aint gonna hold it against them personally. Where I have the beef is where games or mainstream media or mainstream gaming tries to force it down my throat. This is not intolerance towards "Them/They" this is intolerance towards it being forced upon us.
And as far as the politics in games are concerned im sorry im siding with Dr Disrespect. A lot of companies should be focusing on what makes them more money or what will promote their game, NOT what will make them look good because they can virtue signal the hardest just because they are inclusive of "They/Them". Im not saying they shouldnt pick other parts of the community completely, but what I AM saying is that they shouldnt ignore people who may well be more logical from a marketing perspective just because somebody took DrDisrespects words out of context... And lets face it, a LOT of people outside of the gaming world who are white are pretty badly persecuted by mainstream media, and even government officials (and in the UK as you well knnow, Sadiq Khan who thinks white families are not real londoners)
No one is shoving anything down your throat, I’m so sick of hearing that. A game asking you what your pronouns are is respectful, nothing else. If you can’t handle it, don’t play the game
@@AaronDukeYT Ok I'll put this a different way: Would you prefer it if a game developer focused more on pronouns, or would you prefer people to have a game that is more refined and polished BEFORE going into providing pronouns for those people? I know what I would put first. For me, the game comes first, and when you have a more polished game, and/or you have some time spare, THEN you can focus on the pronouns. Or better still, ASK the community first. If people want it in the game, then by all means put it in the game. I would have absolutely no objections if they went down that route and the community came out and said "Yes we want pronouns in the game". And Aaron, its nothing to do with I cant handle anything. I dont even have the game yet, maybe I'll buy it in a years time, maybe I'll not buy it at all, but it is not your right to tell people whether or not the should play the game.
@abathurx9500 I want pronouns in the game. There, problem solved
@@AaronDukeYT Key word: Community.
Are you a developer? You seem to talk a bit about the sacrifices to the games quality for a pronoun option, so tell me how it takes away? Asking as a computer scientist btw.
tbf - making elder scrolls 6 would have been a better choice
One thing I do not understand is why such a big backlash from Starfield's Pronouns choices but Baldur's Gate 3 didn't? You could literally choose your genitals for your character in BG3, but people are up in arms over how Bethesda put Pronouns on there? Are they not aware that Pronouns are a natural part of human language? Also I am not taking a dig at BG3 for the genital choices, I actually thought it was super inclusive and amazing BG3 took that extra step, I just don't understand the outrage people have over Starfield
It’s more than that. Normal people are tired of this woke lgbtq trash and characters in games. Also only whites are the villians in Starfield . We are fed up. Boycotting
Interestingly, HeelvsBabyface took down his first Baldur's Gate 3 video, and unlisted the second one. Curious.
The "fucking pronouns" is going to be on my mind for weeks. It will be my ringtone.
W video Aaron, what a stupid thing for people to be mad about. Verbs are going to blow them away next.
lol this is heelsvsbabyface dude rages about a lot of shit lol xD so this reaction from him is just the usual thing for him.
Agree tho thats not a place for games idk why they would add that theres 2 genders ... that's why biology says so
OMG why so many dislikes??? quick, like the video !
So far I’ve enjoyed my play through. I wonder what these guys would have said about my Trans Gender V in Cyber punk. I enjoy making various characters it gives variety to my Avatar and Game.
I have a Trans V too, I thought the character customization was such a badass feature.
These silly sausages that are overrating to a game asking what pronouns they want their character to have are the same type of people that say that the transgender community cares to much about pronouns but I've never seen transgender person get this mad over pronouns maybe get upset yeah but that normally because there is more aggression behind it when someone constantly uses the wrong ones on purpose.
The default in the game is He/Him dude just click next, are they going to get angry next time they need to fill out form and it asks for their title like 90% forms have for years because they need to select Mr/Mrs/Miss/Ms/Dr.
I really don't get why people get made about pronouns so much, when its just a question!
Here's a better perspective that ends your whole stick.
What happens if they DIDN'T let you choose your pronoun...
And there you go
So, like when you’re playing a game as a set story character? Honestly, wouldn’t mind personally but I would also understand the impact of such a decision in an RPG character creation environment
@AaronDukeGame not what I said..
I said in Stanfield. What if they wrote male and female. No pronouns
What would happen
This is such a silly thing to care about. Just let people have the additional options, it literally doesn't harm anyone.
kinda silly to get upset over being called the wrong pronoun when it doesnt cause any harm
Ahhh come on aaron dont call them sausages....that implies that theyre tasty cooked in beer and thrown over rice
Tbf adding pronouns for a character that you create on a game is kinda cringe.
It’s really not
@@AaronDukeYT you may think it's not but ask a lot of people and they'll probably agree. I'm not defending the boycott because boycotting a game over something like that is also cringe. So lose lose either way you look at it
@@Autisrooyeah. Addin more personality to your character created in ROLEPLAY game is cringe. Guess you don't want your character to be called he or she then
What I find interesting is that Baldur's Gate 3 not only let's you choose pronouns, but has a gender option of "non-binary" and we haven't heard a single word about that. Let's be real. "Streamers" are not boycotting Starfield over pronouns LOL. A few homophobic idiots are chiming in with their 2 cents. That is all. This entire issue is insignificant to 99.99999% of humans.
I hate that I used to watch and love the guy back when he played and made videos on WoW before he showed his colours. I shared his channel with my dad as it became a shared hobby of ours to play together. Only now to have my dad still following and parroting what this guy says. It honestly disgusts me how little care these people have for other people. Who cares if you're not trans/non binary or have any other place on the spectrum yourself. How difficult is it to remember a pronoun? For me it's so much easier than a name as you generally use it far more... and yet we still think it's polite to remember a name, so how is it out of order to ask people to be polite and remember tocare about what people prefer to be called.
everyone acually throwing a tantrum over this is an idiot like bro your playing a rpg stop complaining about the character creation. Aaron keep up the great work.
You literally become Star born dragon born star pony’s Xbots players are mad today 😂
People should just stop giving a shit, who cares about pronouns. It a game with that specific design choice.. just get lost in the game
I agree with you 100% and love your videos and content.
Thank you! 💙
He does realise its 2023 right and some ppl dont identify as either male or female. Its good that games are starting to give more than 2 options for character gender customization i hope more games have that going forward
Womp womp
@@Straggly-raduisi cant tell who you are womp womping
@@FemboyKaiSaku Crap sorry I commented on the wrong post 😅
baldur's gate 3 also lets you pick your pronouns and im surprised there wasnt an outcry about it. plus all the characters will flirt with you no matter the gender
@@Straggly-raduis haha
Oh no! Pronouns! My only weakness! Guess i cant enjoy this entire new game now because of it. 😂 like wtf
The Callisto protocol is way better than Starfield 😂 Callisto protocol get a 7 it had 8 chapters and was more impressive than Starfield.
I wasn’t that impressed by Callisto tbh
The comments are mostly positive but there is an almost 60/40 like dislike split, dislike spree off title names?
Anyway this whole debacle can be described in 2 words: cringe worthy. Legit if ppl are this mad about something so minute, why not just refund/ not play it? But I guess people gotta rely on the nonsensical outrage instead of literally just doing the common sense, smart move called: walking away
Here is a question: Why are pronouns not a big deal, but religion is? Religion has been persecuted, while pronoun ideology is acceptable to be pushed off on others and others forced in different counties to support it like NAZIS. Are you really that big of a hypocrite? We have to accept pronouns but are harassed as a result of being religious. Religion can not be at work. However, pronouns are acceptable.
Is "you' a pronoun that identifies gender? I didn't know.
Doesn’t identify gender but it is a pronoun
Bros mad about about the fact the game is more immersive for him when he gets called he/Him in cutscenes and such instead of they/them......
Its funny how people like you preach freedom and inclusivity but as someone voices a different opinion you call them a horrible person funny double standard
Nope, I call people horrible if they’re showcasing bigotry and hatred. People are always entitled to their opinions, but when you present it with rage and hatred it becomes an issue
@@AaronDukeYT it's bigotry to think multiple pronouns are dumb and them invading entertainment is even dumber. It's not inclusivity it's a checkbox to them so you eat up their bullshit they don't care I'm gay and I still don't believe this
If your freedoms exist to come at the cost of others it's not freedom, it's oppression. The opinion "trans people shouldn't exist, have representation, be allowed to have representation, etc" isn't simply an opinion. Swap trans person with a particular race and see how fast you go from "opinionated" to nazi. Of course this thought process already is if you studied ww2 history, I'll assume you have? The idea of deplatforming and demonizing an entire populace isn't a freedom, it's a privilege granted by power. It's not just an opinion to hate. Your words actions and requests have consequences, your constitution or religious text won't stop that.
1.) Pronouns are gender-specific by default
2.) Pronouns aren’t actually referenced all that often in the game, as Bethesda has stepped back from the fully voiced protagonist of Fallout 4 to the earlier generic guy/girl without a voice.
3.) Much of the outrage is manufactured. People who were determined to hate the game found ab easy target.
4.) Nobody got this fired up about Cyberpunk 2077 and you can literally add a d*** to your otherwise female character (or vice versa), making the protagonist a literal transvestite… but no pronouns, cause those are linked to the masculine/feminine voice.
Oh my god i was laughing so hard at the clowns who are huffing and puffing over pronouns in a game.
Okay but like....does it run well? Is it fun? The last three years have been nothing but half baked buggy pieces of crap.
Apparently it’s not bad! There are some issues highlighted in the reviews but it seems to hit an average of 7/10 for most
Man and they call us snowflakes. -.-
Exactly!
@@AaronDukeYT Like, I wish I had nothing else to worry about in life like these snowflakes do to worry about about words. Also omg thank you for replying...
Personally IDC whether or not a game has pronouns, I just make the character I want, play and have fun. If pronouns make other people happy then I am happy for them.
IDK why people make such a big deal out of whether or not games have them because realistically speaking its just a he/she/they/other, it literally doesn't matter except for a minority of people who are happy to find that there. Inclusivity like that is not politics, its just making a group of people happier and that is perfectly fine. People want to play who they are, who they want to be, or they play a character that they want to roleplay as in that world, or they just like who they make, or they want to stare at a pretty arse and its all fine, let people play and do what they want, we do not need any of this drama from those who want to call pronouns politics.
I do not think your example with skyrim was the best one TBH, I wouldn't call just calling someone you a pronoun, its a neutral word(its not a gendered word at all) to call out to someone, but I understand the message you are trying to get across.
I feel called out with the staring at a pretty arse part😭 Unless I’m self-inserting I choose the hot characters😂
hmm why??? BC is worse than fallout 4 and 76?
Its to bad the pronoun preople can't leave the kids alone
Bethesda: The next Fallout & Skyrim game will have pronouns
Gamer: WE’RE SO FUCKIN BORING
How dare they add pronouns in a game, damn outrageous, ima get a refund and boycotting EVERY Bethesda game now X’D
I’m so surprised that people (I really hope it’s that one individual cause oh boy) really are getting upset over adding pronoun pfft
Why is everyone getting up upset over god damm pronouns? It's just like why? what's wrong with pronouns like I'm so confused like why getting upset over pronouns when there are bigger problems and yet we like "ah yes let's get upset over a god damm video game cuz it has pronouns but no don't get upset and with thee fact there are some people who have a platform that don't deserve it"