LOVE THE NEW BOAT!! I enjoy your anchor obsession, I do not think there is anyone or any company that tests anchors to your standards. You are providing a great service to sailors. Be happy, be safe.
Thank you very much for doing these test! I have a 25 kg Rocna. While it is much better than Plastimo CQR I had previously, it's exciting to see there are even better anchors out there.
I'm lost once more - like in almost every one of your vids. What you are doing here is legendary! Regardless of the brands you are totally straight forward in your genuine way of measuring and reasoning. The testing chart is growing!
I’ve been awaiting your updated Rocna review, as I am looking to replace the cheap (poor reputation) anchor my boat was equipped with. Not impressive. However, in looking at your chart, I’m wondering if the superior performance of some of the top anchors actually comes from their increased size (weight/fluke surface area)?
Interesting videos but a bit confusing. My 25kg Rocna almost always sets immediately and once set it never released until now. Not even in very bad conditions. And it sets also in conditions with seaweed. Tests in Europe with an 32LB Rocna: release at 5152 Lb and than resets at 4080. I don't believe that the seabed is significant different. Maybe i have no trouble at all because I give the anchor the change to set at low speed (drifting as described in the user manual) and not at 2 or 3 Kt. That's in my opinion more or less an emergency stop. And no, i'm not trying hard to clutch at straws. 🙂 not a fan, just a satisfied user. Maybe you can try the Plastimo Kobra anchor.
It baffles me. Rocna's have such a strong reputation in Europe, even among full-time cruisers, people who anchor 300 days a year. The web is filled with happy Rocna owners, yet Steve's video's don't lie...
@@robheirbaut8525 It's amazing how a great marketing campaign can convince people. I know a lot of people who've switched to them. I think most people anchoring aren't as tough with them but the resetting is what it is and the video doesn't lie. I use a Delta but it's twice the weight of the one he's tested (88lbs) and I think when you get up in weight it makes a big difference. I always say go bigger if your unsure.
@robertfreeman2322 while that may be true, I just switched to Rocna because my CQR (both 55lb) was totally unreliable. At one point I drifted 200m in a breeze, at another it broke or in a Greek harbor during a squall from a thunderstorm and damaged other boats. That's with 10:1 scope. Never had a problem with Rocna. Going on full reverse always dragged the CQR, but I can't move my Rocna. In fact, last time I could just hoist up the CQR using windlass (60m chain, just dragged all the way), but can't do that with the Rocna. I'm not a fan either, in well aware the Rocna had its flaws in certain fans needs, and I carry a fortress just in case. So far didn't need it yet, though. Ad the previous poster, just very surprised by these results. I understand M1 performs better, but a CQR or an Excel? Not in my experience, nor even close.
Having worked on bigger ships it is largely so they can stow them in the hawse pipe. The bigger container ships I worked on pulled the anchors completely inside pockets flush with the shell plating.
Indeed, pausing might give different results. A problem is the short battery life of the underwater camera. Then again, using an anchor in an emergency means no time for pauses and is indeed a very "real life" situation.
it seems your testing is flawed, when you anchor and need maximum holding power you should deploy a 10 to 1 scope. most if not all anchors are designed for the shank to be pulled parallel to the bottom which is almost achieved with a 10 to 1 scope under a maximum load assuming a long enough and heavy enough chain.
I'm sorry, but seabeds change, even if the same bottom type. Also, you are using a different boat with different characteristics. I think to be fair, you need to redo your other top anchors on the same day at the same location.
Bob, The seabeds that I use for testing do not change on a daily basis.The results have been highly repeatable over months and in the case of the sandy mud - years. As for the different boat hypothesis, see my video #85 where I test another 45lb. Rocna using the other boat. The anchor did WORSE than this more recent test, so, if anything, the anchor was given an ADVANTAGE over the other anchors.
Geologist here....your description is correct. Good geology work....good anchor work, too (obviously).
LOVE THE NEW BOAT!! I enjoy your anchor obsession, I do not think there is anyone or any company that tests anchors to your standards. You are providing a great service to sailors. Be happy, be safe.
Thank you very much for doing these test! I have a 25 kg Rocna. While it is much better than Plastimo CQR I had previously, it's exciting to see there are even better anchors out there.
I'm lost once more - like in almost every one of your vids. What you are doing here is legendary! Regardless of the brands you are totally straight forward in your genuine way of measuring and reasoning. The testing chart is growing!
Thanks for producing this video. Very educational.
The new boat looks great. Thanks for another excellent test and video.
Well done !
I’ve been awaiting your updated Rocna review, as I am looking to replace the cheap (poor reputation) anchor my boat was equipped with. Not impressive. However, in looking at your chart, I’m wondering if the superior performance of some of the top anchors actually comes from their increased size (weight/fluke surface area)?
Interesting videos but a bit confusing. My 25kg Rocna almost always sets immediately and once set it never released until now. Not even in very bad conditions. And it sets also in conditions with seaweed. Tests in Europe with an 32LB Rocna: release at 5152 Lb and than resets at 4080. I don't believe that the seabed is significant different.
Maybe i have no trouble at all because I give the anchor the change to set at low speed (drifting as described in the user manual) and not at 2 or 3 Kt. That's in my opinion more or less an emergency stop.
And no, i'm not trying hard to clutch at straws. 🙂 not a fan, just a satisfied user. Maybe you can try the Plastimo Kobra anchor.
It baffles me. Rocna's have such a strong reputation in Europe, even among full-time cruisers, people who anchor 300 days a year. The web is filled with happy Rocna
owners, yet Steve's video's don't lie...
@@robheirbaut8525 It's amazing how a great marketing campaign can convince people. I know a lot of people who've switched to them. I think most people anchoring aren't as tough with them but the resetting is what it is and the video doesn't lie. I use a Delta but it's twice the weight of the one he's tested (88lbs) and I think when you get up in weight it makes a big difference. I always say go bigger if your unsure.
@robertfreeman2322 while that may be true, I just switched to Rocna because my CQR (both 55lb) was totally unreliable. At one point I drifted 200m in a breeze, at another it broke or in a Greek harbor during a squall from a thunderstorm and damaged other boats. That's with 10:1 scope.
Never had a problem with Rocna. Going on full reverse always dragged the CQR, but I can't move my Rocna. In fact, last time I could just hoist up the CQR using windlass (60m chain, just dragged all the way), but can't do that with the Rocna.
I'm not a fan either, in well aware the Rocna had its flaws in certain fans needs, and I carry a fortress just in case. So far didn't need it yet, though.
Ad the previous poster, just very surprised by these results. I understand M1 performs better, but a CQR or an Excel? Not in my experience, nor even close.
Thanks for the great service to sailors! Any idea why the large vessels and ships use double fluke pivoting 'Danforth' type anchors?
Having worked on bigger ships it is largely so they can stow them in the hawse pipe. The bigger container ships I worked on pulled the anchors completely inside pockets flush with the shell plating.
Anyone noticed the bigger jump in surface area from the 20kg to the 25kg compared to the 15kg to the 20kg.
Would be curious to know how the bulwagga anchor compares with those on your chart?
Me too. If one comes my way, I will certainly test a Bulwagga
Why the 5 to 1 scope?
Can we see it at 7 to 1
I was sold on the Rocna until I saw this. Now I have no idea what to get for my boat.
I do my boating on the Columbia River, btw.
Should you use 30 min pouses between attempts? ...to let the anchor to sets better? ...and mimic real life anchoring
Indeed, pausing might give different results. A problem is the short battery life of the underwater camera. Then again, using an anchor in an emergency means no time for pauses and is indeed a very "real life" situation.
Scope is the wrong measure to compare because catenary isn't linear at all.
it seems your testing is flawed, when you anchor and need maximum holding power you should deploy a 10 to 1 scope. most if not all anchors are designed for the shank to be pulled parallel to the bottom which is almost achieved with a 10 to 1 scope under a maximum load assuming a long enough and heavy enough chain.
So Rocna sux?
I'm sorry, but seabeds change, even if the same bottom type. Also, you are using a different boat with different characteristics. I think to be fair, you need to redo your other top anchors on the same day at the same location.
Bob, The seabeds that I use for testing do not change on a daily basis.The results have been highly repeatable over months and in the case of the sandy mud - years. As for the different boat hypothesis, see my video #85 where I test another 45lb. Rocna using the other boat. The anchor did WORSE than this more recent test, so, if anything, the anchor was given an ADVANTAGE over the other anchors.
Some Rocna fans here seem to be trying hard to clutch at straws. 🙂