ANDREI KIRILENKO is a BETTER Defender Than KEVIN GARNETT?! | PC OPEN GYM EP86
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0:00:00 AK47 is better defender than KG & Tim Duncan
0:45:24 Superchats
0:47:09 AK47 is better defender than Tim Duncan
1:10:16 Superchats
1:15:04 Talking about AK47
1:26:08 Is AK47 at his peak a better player than Melo?
1:32:01 Is Draymond better defender than AK47?
1:39:05 Superchats
1:40:46 How to check different stats
1:42:34 Checking points generated by Assists
2:06:24 Superchats
2:19:02 Harden opts into deal as 76ers explore trade options
2:31:15 Who is best 3 & D player in NBA history?
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It takes tremendous effort to have worse takes than Ticket, but Jalen Carter took the gold.
Get off your knees
What's worse is he got fry cooked well done, admitted he doesn't watch basketball, and still stood on that take
The conversation should’ve ended when he said he saw CZcams clips
Coooooooked
This what happens when u let apu son from the kwik e mart talk basketball 😂
I don't think I've seen anyone get fry cooked by the entire panel for an entire stream. Saying AK-47 is the 2nd greatest defender of all-time is one of the worst takes in PC history. The fact that Jalen lied about what he saw, got cooked by actual footage and facts, admitted he doesn't watch games, then proceeded to stand on his take is egregious.
That clown saw a highlight vid and went completely off the deep end 😂😂
He Definitely got Clowned!…Jalen is a Straight Liar!...He Tried his Best to Against the Grain so he Could B' a Pioneer, Bet it ALL on the Patsy Horse & Lost Big Time!...He Probably didn't Watch Any Games, ONLY Highlights!...EXPOSED!...
embarassing AF. this is why i watch the panel. you dont get takes like this that just arent worth the conversation. a lot of these guys just come with hot takes to get a reaction. they clearly lack any knowledge. how do they have themselves convinced they are right lol
AK-47 hella underrated but nah.
This man just tryna make tik tok
When they were reading Kevin Garnett's stats vs AK47 at 28:33 that man was reading the minutes KG played as points. I cant find anywhere that KG dropped 40 on AK47 put the minutes match up with the points. Dev gotta learn how to read stats.
Dev getting the minutes confused with points had me rolling
Thank you so much for double checking dev because i was hearing 2k stat lines of 45 22 and 16 that’s ridiculous lol
Mans was reading the minutes played thinking they were the points 💀💀
@@unlimitedz2.014yea bro is a clown don’t ever bring him back on the show
I mean I remember hearing jalen emphasize that “stat sheets do matter” and now that I heard him say all this crazy shit I’m convinced all his opinions come from highlights. It also explains his meat riding for lebron as if he had no flaws 😭
AK-47 was a beast though. Kg always had better talent around him. It was easy to be a big in that cramped up era
Can’t decide if best episode or worst episode. This is one of those episodes with no in between lol
Dev capping on KG is crazy 😭
What Jalen smoking talking like this? 😂
Shaq avg almost 27 and 11 on 63% from the field getting called locked up is insanity
Goat show 🔥
so happy that Dev cooked Jalen like that. Jalen be wilden a little too much, man.
edit: damn, dev. you cooked yourself.
I did indeed
And to think kobe use to COOK the shit out of AK47😢😂
Lol that’s kobe
@@trevonbattle7094exactly TF lol. Goat scorer lol
No wonder marz trolls all the time bro. Its the only way he can remain sane through waves of abonimable takes like this
appreciate your understanding
Dev was capping his ass off
Marz sets the tone with his first sentence
jalen is so cooked
L me for misreading mins for points in the later years 😂😂
@@devsports7417 LMAOOOO
@@devsports7417still took less of an l than Jalen
Lmao facts Marz this was worst then any Lebron take Jalen ever made 💀
This is an all time bad performance here.
Like going 0/24 in a game 7, forget 6/24.
Context Matters needs a fuckin mic condenser forreal
I swear I’m at work listening and it feels like this nigga talking right in front of my face 💀
Ion get why no one on the panel ever tells him about his shitty mic 😭
@@aaby3964 I promise it must sound worse on the stream than it does in the call
@@MarzTalksSports Yea I think he was just too close to it he sounded fine on dubs stream (pause?) not sure but just in case lmao
25:19 🤣🤣🤣
KG could guard just as well on the permiter. KG before Boston could guard anyone dam near.
KG is a better defender than Kirilenko yes, but he didn’t guard the perimeter quite as well as him imo
I got a full time job and I watch full playoff series
“you know stephs guarded lebron james”😂😂😂
Only thing I'll give AK-47 Over KG is Shot Blocking as KG wasn't a volume shot blocking. But everything else KG
Had to go look and D wade put 50 on kirilenko head Jesus
I like how Jalen said Kirelinko wasn’t a big name but he was known as AK-47 throughout the entire NBA. Unknown guys don’t have nicknames in the league that they are known as bro. Also the fact they this guy took roughly 4 games and somehow made Kirelinko the 2nd greatest defender in the game’s history! Crazy as hell! 😂😂😂😂😂
I ALWAYS Took into Consideration Era-Tax when Viewing Basketball!…But it’s Mostly Used to Determine the “Better”, but Not “Greater” Player!…For Instance; Kevin Garnet, “Better” & Tim Duncan Greater”!…Though It’s a Part of My Criteria for Ranking Players ALL-Time, it’s Not the End ALL B’ ALL!…Kobe is My Favourite Player ALL-Time, but I Think Jordan is the G.O.A.T.
Lmao so Jalen watched two games to determine AKs defense 😂😂😂
There's no hate involved... Kobe didn't deserve all those 1st Team Defenses...
I almost didn’t click on this video because I hate horrible click bait bad takes type shit like for example better offensive player Michael redd or Kobe Bryant we all known kg is a better defender than AK and I loved AK he was a cheat code on 2k7 but it’s crazy to compare, that being said I’m so happy I clicked on this the comedy aspect brought me so much joy I haven’t felt in a long time 🥰🥰🥰
Ngl wish ticket was on here
Dub saying he doesn’t use team defensive rating to rank defenders is hilarious because he brings up Brooklyn having a top 10 defense while KD was playing all the time
Aint no way he’s deadass
Kobe fans: he was locking down his competition 😡💪🔒🛡️
Me: Duncan was locking 💩 up 😡💪🔒
Kobe fans: he deep fried him in 08
Me: he solo’d Kobe and Shaq in 03 😏
Tim Duncan has just too many defensive counters to keep him in that top 5 with Kobe ❤
I watched 5-8 games … and therefore can conclude that for 5 years, AK47 is the best defender of all time
I hate how they try and pretend like they remember a game that came on tv in 2005?on a Wednesday night on ESPN that was the 2nd game out is double header. Tell me you’re a serial killer without saying it. These guys were like 5. Probably had to go to bed!
The fact this topic wasn’t just a brief 20 min segment, but took up the entire video
Ban Jalen please gentlemen
It is hilarious watching Jalen Carter argue this point...what about Dwight Howard?
Damn Jalen
The fact that dub & marz kept jalen on for so long is ridiculous…the leash needs to be short on these casual takes no matter how much they are on…marz should take control on sending people to hell 👌🏼
Jalen takes what players say a little too literally.
Man saw one clip of shaq saying yao ming is the only person who blocked him 2 times in a row, and now he trying to say yao defended shaq better than anyone potentially. 💀
Lmao jaylen loves to bring up this supposed jump shot blocking skill 😂😂😂.
Bro ,this dude is talking about men's scoring 25 on Duncan. I seen amare Stoudemire average 35 I'm the playoffs on Duncan. COOKED.
They let him score, and it worked, they won the series
kobe played way more minutes in 2005-06 than nash
nash generated more points per minute than kobe
Points Per Minute 🤓
W Nash agenda 🔥
Points per minute is disgusting 😂
Box score watcher
Damn all that with no rings😂😂😂
Y’all should’ve just skipped the show today, I see it was slim pickings on topics.
You must be a narrative fan
Gave Jalen the Ticket treatment. That’s why all these guys just agree with each other. They are soft on debates. Low does not want to disagree with Marz and uses words like “he’s trolling.’
You gotta be kidding me!!!
Tim Duncan played the 5 more than 4 for his career.
players choice, where people like jalen get a chance
No body rides d quite like context
Dub your sick why did you let him and stay on there and get cooked😂
I’m higher on AK than anyone but he is nowhere near KG and Duncan
Better defender then Wallace and pippen?!?!?!?!?!?
Jalen is out his mind, body, AND soul
26:48 just pause the video 😫😫😫🤦🏿♂️. Time to fast forward to the next topic
My god why Jalen get any time
Someone gotta be the village idiot
didnt tmac drop multiple 40 point games on him including 1 in the playoffs
Jalen Carter got cooked into Jalen Curry 🍛
Jalen was so cooked
Did he really say Ak-47 is better defender then Duncan and garnett is like everyone just say anything stupid🤣🤣🤣🤣
Yao ming and Ben Wallace covered Shaq better.
Jalen is off that Jenkem, ain’t no damn way he believes that. Nigga said ‘03 AK47 coming off the bench is better than peak Duncan.
AK just got so much unwarranted disrespect cuz Jalen wants to die on this dumb as hill
If you're gonna watch 1 or 2 of player's best peak games atleast watch a couple of their bad games to even out, lol.
"I dont rank guys based on team success".
And now it makes sense why guys cant wrap their mind around what makes a guy like nash potent on offense. The same way they cant see why duncan isnt overrated on defense.
If nash doesnt score buckets and duncan doesn't lock people up 1 on 1, They're overrated.
Damn.
Also definitely a kobe motive in both takes.
It's crazy because most elite offensive player is giving fits to any defensive player 1 on 1, lol.
Damn views must be down
Half the league can look like they can guard people for one or two plays smfh.
AK 47 just didn't have the success that other great defenders did... He was a Scottie Pippen type defender, he just played for the Jazz... If he was a complementary player on the Spurs/Pistons/ Lakers.... Then we would talk about him differently. Now him being the best defender of thw generation is false.... Not over Duncan, KG, Big Ben....
what the hell was this episode
This question is blasphemous better defender then KG and DUNCAN? No
AK 47 Got destroyed by Baron Davis. Greatest help defender of all time? 😂 😂
Because of one dunk?
Best defender of the generation is Dwight Howard
No one shut Shaq down. Nobody besides maybe rodman guarded him better. 😂😂😂😂😂😂 You said YAO only because of that stupid first game YAO had.
Ben wallace? no?
You haven't looked at the dam games either!!!!! You admitted you didn't bruh.
Jalen is a casual
Jalen is too much. He's either bashing a great players and talking nonsense, or he's hyping a great players and STILL talking nonsense!! I LOVE Ak 47 and just had to watch an hour of him getting bashed because of Jalen! This is ridiculous! I'm almost positive at this point Jalen just started watching basketball a year or two ago but needs people to think he's an expert. It's cringy. He really should be banned from talking anything before the bubble, there is zero knowledge. (AK WAS a great defender, only Jalen could spark a conversation I'd have to argue against AK. This is BS, PUT A GAG IN HIM!!!)
Jalen who tf makes a dam opinion about someone off of fu****** clips. People have watched dam games or at least more then dam clips 😂😂😂😂
Yeah I'm out.....
This what happens when u play too much 2k
And dub stop letting KB say n***** so many times on the stream
Jalen doesn’t need to be on anymore after this. This was idiotic asf and changing his mind throughout he just needs to go learn more cause
These casuals be lying 🙃
Jalen shut up yo. Stop trying to get hot takes off. In no world was AK better defensively then KG or Duncan.
jesus christ Jalen.....
This is so cringe y’all can clearly see jalen a casual should’ve kicked him smh
This is a bad take. AK47 was super nice on defense but dude is overrating him.
This take is just as bad as Marz saying Steve Nash was better than Moses Malone. 🤦🏿♂️
Jalen went a lil too overboard but they is kind of cappin he ain’t wrong ak-47 was a 6”9 sf wit a 7”4 wingspan Dunkin as great as he was couldn’t move around on the perimeter as good as him if ak47 played today and he was in his prime bein as though he’s not a offensive minded player he would definitely stick the best scoring option on the opposing team unless it was a real 7 foot big body center
AK locked up ginobli?!?!?
The meat riding from Jalen was disgusting
At this point can I join in the debate cause yall let delusional people get on yall show and this is sad
It should be closed gym for the jalen guy he is horrible
Jalen is Indian ticket 😂😂😂
💀💀💀💀💀
Worst audio of all time
It doesn't matter if Kirilenko came off the bench . He could still be a better defender then someone that starts for another team. The jazz coach can be an idiot . That has nothing to do with Kirilenko being better then Duncan.
Kirilenko is no where near Tim Duncan when it comes to defense.
@@yourenotthatguy1728 you know nothing about basketball bro. Duncan is not as versatile as Kirilenko
Y'all need to ban this guy for a month for crazy talk.😂 AK47 🥷🏾 please