How I Taught Myself Perfect Pitch (True Pitch)

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  • čas přidán 8. 06. 2018
  • This works, guys. True pitch. Even my brother who is a drummer is getting it now. Perfect pitch is of course superior over true pitch but we mortals are not out of hope. In the end, it really doesn’t matter in your playing ability, it’s just a trick used to impress people.
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  • @Saxologic
    @Saxologic  Před 5 lety +2144

    Most people claim they cannot memorize pitch accurately. Their audiation (hearing a note in your head after you’ve heard it externally) may last a couple dozen seconds, then they forget the pitch till they hear it again. This video explains how to get a permanent audiation - where the notes you hear in your head never leave. You can generate it from your subconscious at any point without a reference.
    So yes... it’s not absolute perfect pitch. We’re out of luck on that one, folks. I made a follow-up video recently called “An Alternative To Perfect Pitch” where I admitted this video is a bit of a clickbait - to lure people without perfect pitch and show them that there is still a way that they don’t need an external reference to identify any note. Sorry for being misleading! I hope this helped out anyway. We don’t need perfect pitch to have strong ears or permanent audiation 😎 !

    • @fernandoheighes4507
      @fernandoheighes4507 Před 5 lety +47

      You do what you have to! Wouldn’t have found this knowledge without the “clickbait” aspect. I have already improved twofold because of patiently listening to the “vowels” my acoustic guitar speaks ❤️ Thank you again!

    • @marvingisset2358
      @marvingisset2358 Před 5 lety +20

      The way I did it was assigning a song to each note.
      For example: C with joy to the world, D with the theme from Papers please, and E with Fur Elise.
      I think this way is probably more effective if you know the song you're assigning by heart.

    • @fernandoheighes4507
      @fernandoheighes4507 Před 5 lety +4

      Marvin Gisset yes! For me I would always be flat or sharp by a note or two when using that method, but everybody should use the method that works best for them! 🕺 All tips and tricks are tools, I may use both! 🤣

    • @Flossboyss
      @Flossboyss Před 4 lety +1

      Yo bro thank you

    • @surtaalrecords4659
      @surtaalrecords4659 Před 4 lety +3

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  • @chaosource1
    @chaosource1 Před 4 lety +10439

    When I was 5 I discovered that our house vacuum cleaner was an F and now I recognize every F. Only the F's. Do I have the shittiest perfect pitch in the world?

    • @mcmiilu308
      @mcmiilu308 Před 4 lety +1880

      The
      F Pitch

    • @fullmoonofus2683
      @fullmoonofus2683 Před 4 lety +77

      😂

    • @daneoates8099
      @daneoates8099 Před 4 lety +799

      That's a solid start. From that you can develop relative pitch and get most of the same benefits of perfect pitch

    • @oof1291
      @oof1291 Před 4 lety +191

      Lmao that's me but with the tuning A on the violin

    • @alvinwe8396
      @alvinwe8396 Před 4 lety +210

      F

  • @oompaloompa911MC
    @oompaloompa911MC Před 5 lety +3875

    Ive tuned my guitar so many times that the sound of the e string is engraved in my brain

    • @niclaswerther1569
      @niclaswerther1569 Před 5 lety +58

      Thats actally the levetin (i think thats how its spelled) effect! Maybe look at the video from twelve tone

    • @MarsLos10
      @MarsLos10 Před 5 lety +101

      Yeah that's tonal memory I can always sing a perfect middle C without a reference
      But I can't sing or recognize any other note without a reference so that's definitely not perfect pitch

    • @Dprest-nd4yc
      @Dprest-nd4yc Před 5 lety +22

      I can sing a D because I always remember it from how Miles solo starts on So What

    • @ericseuberth
      @ericseuberth Před 5 lety +10

      @@Dprest-nd4yc I do remember the D because of "Sweet Home Alabama". :)

    • @ivanokmunoz
      @ivanokmunoz Před 5 lety +21

      All this examples are relative pitch and tone memory

  • @8020drummer
    @8020drummer Před 4 lety +1405

    This is 100% possible. Every music student in Taiwan, where my wife grew up, learns to recognize absolute pitch in ear training class. For some reason, in the west, we have this idea that you're "born with it".

    • @Johansebastion
      @Johansebastion Před 4 lety +13

      The 80/20 Drummer do you have any lessons or tips for the way the Taiwanese teach it?

    • @myongpark
      @myongpark Před 4 lety +129

      Most teachers in Asia would hit you with a wooden dowel or a violin bow. It’s in your best interest to remember.

    • @gyanpb
      @gyanpb Před 4 lety +9

      @@myongpark bruhhhh that's so true 😂

    • @csmihaly
      @csmihaly Před 4 lety +32

      My children’s piano teacher just recently showed us - well before the COVID - that she has the perfect pitch. I was impressed. She acted, and I totally believed, that it was a secret talent in one in a million. I will practice this, and after the COVID I’ll shock her. By the way, I have it, too.

    • @user-lp4cm4dj6t
      @user-lp4cm4dj6t Před 4 lety +3

      I went to school in asia, we would have tests where the teacher plays random notes out loud and make us write down which one it was but that was a guessing game. She would just teach us how to read
      Staffs and the Do Re Mi bullpoop and then plan surprise quizzes. I still love music though I didn't develope perfect pitch.

  • @hanquokka9544
    @hanquokka9544 Před 4 lety +3256

    Every note sounds like C to me

    • @geovaniraffaelli4508
      @geovaniraffaelli4508 Před 4 lety +352

      The 7 notes of the major scale: c1, c2, c3, c4, c5, c6 and c7

    • @jo_nm9484
      @jo_nm9484 Před 4 lety +50

      If it's the first note played

    • @imperfectlydreadful
      @imperfectlydreadful Před 4 lety +7

      Chanchuri same

    • @Mottherr
      @Mottherr Před 4 lety +21

      @@geovaniraffaelli4508 wtf those are just octaves major scale is C D E F G A B C

    • @wahucordero8115
      @wahucordero8115 Před 4 lety +74

      It's a joke because OP said that every note sounds like C to him

  • @alexandersanchez9138
    @alexandersanchez9138 Před 5 lety +5623

    Rick Beato is having a heart attack over the title right now.

    • @esteventorres4884
      @esteventorres4884 Před 5 lety +128

      Underrated comment
      😂

    • @wanderingmonkvinyl
      @wanderingmonkvinyl Před 5 lety +10

      LOL

    • @SilverShadic360
      @SilverShadic360 Před 5 lety +17

      LMAO facts

    • @end-quote
      @end-quote Před 5 lety +136

      @@srhodes6963 tbh, the dude always comes off as a jerk, not suprised by what you said.

    • @sinisxer470
      @sinisxer470 Před 5 lety +93

      @@srhodes6963 Yeah I'm not surprised. He seems cool at times but during his live videos he can say some shitty things to people commenting.

  • @languagehacks3190
    @languagehacks3190 Před 5 lety +3291

    I feel like Bruno Mars and Dwayne Johnsons baby just taught me perfect pitch. Thanks dude!
    EDIT: Haha so many likes. Check out my music: Rooze - Malibu

  • @naveeeeed
    @naveeeeed Před 4 lety +1140

    "I won't call it perfect pitch"
    *Calls it perfect pitch in the title*

  • @AshleyWalls
    @AshleyWalls Před 4 lety +83

    “Eating dirt and playing super smash brothers,” that hits deep man. That hits deep.

  • @camerondowns3573
    @camerondowns3573 Před 5 lety +836

    I feel like 95% of people could make a video like this and it would be cringy. This was actually pretty funny and helpful.

    • @Saxologic
      @Saxologic  Před 5 lety +80

      Lmao thanks I thought it was pretty cringe but that’s ok

    • @bhuvankandel863
      @bhuvankandel863 Před 4 lety +20

      @@Saxologic Actually laughed so hard at 12:20

  • @sonictitan433
    @sonictitan433 Před 5 lety +2119

    This is like the only "perfect pitch" video on youtube thats actually helpful and not just talking about its imposible to learn perfect pitch as an adult.

    • @osaze2708
      @osaze2708 Před 5 lety +22

      Dragonaut42 true...

    • @Saxologic
      @Saxologic  Před 5 lety +110

      Dang shots fired

    • @Cowboybebub
      @Cowboybebub Před 5 lety +41

      Lookin at you, Rick

    • @JC19021
      @JC19021 Před 5 lety +26

      The truth isn’t always what you want to hear.

    • @MaggaraMarine
      @MaggaraMarine Před 5 lety +55

      But the people who say "you can't develop perfect pitch as an adult" are correct - this seems different from "real" perfect pitch where you just know the notes intuitively like colors. This is a really good pitch memory, not actual perfect pitch. The issue is in the term "perfect pitch" that means a really specific thing that can't be developed as an adult (as far as I know). But pitch memory is something that can be developed (but I would still say some people learn it more intuitively, for example they can always sing the same song in the same key without thinking about it, whereas to me it's always pretty much random - though I do know the sound of the open low E string on guitar when I hear it, but that's because I know the timbre, and I wouldn't be able to sing that note without a reference, but I know it when I hear it).
      I mean, usually people who want to develop perfect pitch would want to be able to instinctively recognize notes like colors - that's the skill that people would be after (and they probably ask these questions because they have realized that developing relative pitch takes time and hard work, so they want to know if there's some kind of a "life hack" to ear training). And as far as I know, this can't be developed as an adult. And people usually also tell these people to learn relative pitch instead, because it's a much more useful skill (because in music, it's the relations between the notes that matter, not the absolute pitches). Also, if your pitch memory isn't instant, then there is little use for it in a real life situation where you would have to play a melody by ear - you need relative pitch to be able to do that, unless you have actual perfect pitch (and even then, developing relative pitch would probably be pretty useful, because again, what actually matters in music is the relations between the notes, not that much the absolute pitches). But this video actually made a good argument why a good pitch memory (or "true pitch") would also be helpful - the "practicing your instrument mentally" argument was pretty convincing to me, and it's not a thing I have thought about before. And I guess knowing what key a song is in without having to try it on your instrument first would also be somewhat helpful (though with a good relative pitch, you would be able to figure out the key just by playing a single note).

  • @Soup.Theory
    @Soup.Theory Před 4 lety +117

    10:45 imagine skipping to this part of the video or being somebody watching this without context.

  • @bluejay796
    @bluejay796 Před 3 lety +51

    If my future child does not have perfect pitch, I'm getting a refund.

    • @mortenrobinson
      @mortenrobinson Před 3 lety +3

      Yeah, kids ought to come with a 6-year warranty! If your child doesn't have perfect pitch before his/her 6th birthday, you should be able to take your child back to the hospital delivery room and swap it for a new one.

    • @christinasophiapaterno9022
      @christinasophiapaterno9022 Před 2 lety +1

      Surprisingly, the person who made this comment was Asian! Can you imagine and Asian parent wanting their unborn child to be perfect?? Unheard of! 😘

  • @34sillyband
    @34sillyband Před 4 lety +2859

    Me and him: C
    Shows keys it's a b flat
    My head is aguring it's a C then I rember I play a b flat clarinet.

    • @feelthepunk2717
      @feelthepunk2717 Před 4 lety +36

      Omg😂
      SAME !

    • @Musicrafter12
      @Musicrafter12 Před 4 lety +63

      This was my biggest obstacle to me actually learning clarinet as a teenager. I grew up on the violin, which is of course non-transposing. When I tried out clarinet in high school, mostly to learn a wind instrument for the sake of becoming a better orchestrator, I simply could not in any way shut off or recalibrate my perfect pitch, and I basically had to transpose all the sheet music in my head into concert pitch before I could play it.

    • @Legalstraw
      @Legalstraw Před 4 lety +11

      I played trumpet in high school said c aswell...

    • @MakeNjoy
      @MakeNjoy Před 4 lety +6

      I played either tenor saxophone or soprano saxophone for most of my life and also said C.

    • @catohung1020
      @catohung1020 Před 4 lety +3

      Same but trumpet

  • @thatguymork
    @thatguymork Před 5 lety +210

    Well son of a _pitch!_

  • @graceshin9399
    @graceshin9399 Před 4 lety +31

    I accidentally developed perfect pitch. As a kid, I HATED sight reading (still do, but I was basically musically illiterate at 5 lmao) so I just learned to associate my piano teacher’s fingers with the correct sounds. Later, I didn’t need to visualize my finger or a keyboard in order to recognize a sound.

  • @Mineworks
    @Mineworks Před 4 lety +439

    Going to try this and report back in a few weeks. I hadn't heard this method. It sounds way more intuitive than the "colour" method I've tried before. I have very good relative pitch from playing trumpet, piano, and being a vocalist but I've never been able to figure out perfect pitch. I think this is gonna work as your few samples, I heard the vowels you were saying and think it's genius. Great work sir.

    • @kylezo
      @kylezo Před 3 lety +21

      Any update? I just found this and I'm feeling pretty positive about it, sorta makes sense to me in that you're listening to the entire harmonic spectrum of a note (and assigning a synthetic "vowel"/harmonic EQ sound to it on nothing but the merits of it's own harmonic series, which really helps things click.

    • @markeymalarkey7614
      @markeymalarkey7614 Před 3 lety +12

      How did it go it has almost been a year

    • @brynnsoren1291
      @brynnsoren1291 Před 3 lety +13

      It’s been a year how is it going

    • @iBakePizza
      @iBakePizza Před 3 lety +12

      Still waiting :O

    • @sdjmixom
      @sdjmixom Před 3 lety +8

      Still waiting

  • @fallenBM
    @fallenBM Před 5 lety +3962

    If this dude shaved his head... He would look like Dwayne Johnson

  • @kingrat9741
    @kingrat9741 Před 4 lety +583

    i've listened to the black parade so many times that i can easily recognize a g note on any instrument

    • @FusingSeven479
      @FusingSeven479 Před 4 lety +11

      OMG I just tried singing that G note and checked on my guitar, and I sang it right!!! Btw MCR:'(

    • @freddiestringer2728
      @freddiestringer2728 Před 4 lety +5

      @@FusingSeven479 theyre back

    • @astarothgr
      @astarothgr Před 4 lety +9

      Shit, you're absolutely right! I can hear that G, like a fuckin' BELL in my head! Thanks fam, I didn't know I had that super-power in me all this time!

    • @tiffanyizata3717
      @tiffanyizata3717 Před 4 lety

      king rat same

    • @u3gw555
      @u3gw555 Před 4 lety +1

      😂 this is so trueeee

  • @flyingformation1878
    @flyingformation1878 Před 4 lety +7

    You are a very gifted musician. You are looking at the problem from the perspective of making the most of the ability we have and can develop, it is such an inspiring attitude. Thank you so much for posting this video.

  • @Ryot_
    @Ryot_ Před 4 lety +271

    Every My Chemical Romance fan has perfect pitch but only for the G note

    • @grey9914
      @grey9914 Před 4 lety +3

      William Tran So true!

    • @burpie3258
      @burpie3258 Před 4 lety +1

      Yessss

    • @helenaban8380
      @helenaban8380 Před 4 lety +9

      Yesss fr because I remember the G note, I can actually guess other notes using relative pitch! So whenever I'm trying to figure out what a note is I just kinda recall the G note in my head and compare the other note to it and like 90% of the time it works lol

    • @agh9224
      @agh9224 Před 4 lety +1

      Can confirm

    • @laurenwelker355
      @laurenwelker355 Před 4 lety +1

      That's how I remember it! 😅

  • @batlin
    @batlin Před 5 lety +236

    I always felt like the prevailing wisdom that adults can't learn perfect pitch is lazy thinking. Just because we haven't found a reliable method for everyone doesn't mean we should give up looking. That's why I'm glad to see videos like this.

    • @Saxologic
      @Saxologic  Před 5 lety +16

      I agree!

    • @johncorson6599
      @johncorson6599 Před 4 lety +4

      batlin I agree 100% I still wonder why my ears love notes in certain sequences so much .. saying it is impossible isn’t as accurate as saying we don’t know how .... yet

    • @masonharris9166
      @masonharris9166 Před 4 lety +1

      @@johncorson6599 The only way it is theoretically possible is if we somehow are able to force our brains to revert to a developmental stage even it only temporarily. Doing so would probably risk brain damage and a bunch of other brain conditions.

    • @johncorson6599
      @johncorson6599 Před 4 lety +1

      mason harris possibly ... but I’m already brain damaged so not worried about it lol

    • @christinasophiapaterno9022
      @christinasophiapaterno9022 Před 2 lety

      @@masonharris9166 oh shut up no it doesn’t. Wtf.

  • @Theosis78
    @Theosis78 Před 5 lety +1181

    You nailed it! And it IS actually a stage of genuine perfect pitch.
    There are different stages of pitch awareness:
    1. Chroma awareness = You´re aware of a fixed, octav independend quality of the pitches, called chroma.
    2. Chroma discrimination = You can identify the tones on your own familiar instrument. Here true perfect pitch begins.
    3. Refined chroma discrimination = You can tell if a tone on your instrument is too sharp or flat.
    4. Universal chroma discrimination = All chromas are clearly perceived through the "disguises" of many different timbres.
    5. Spectral discrimination = Refined chroma discrimination across all timbres and sounds.
    6. Aural recall = Without actually hearing a tone, you can imagine its chroma and sing it out in the right pitch any time.
    These progressive levels of chroma awareness are not completely sequential or isolated from each other.
    "True pitch" is Chroma Discrimination. The vowels you "transcribe" are the chroma!

    • @Saxologic
      @Saxologic  Před 5 lety +168

      Theosis78 Wow, I gave a tutorial and I ended up being the one learning. Thanks dude that’s super interesting.

    • @spacevspitch4028
      @spacevspitch4028 Před 5 lety +50

      @@Saxologic I have to agree. Considering native perfect pitch is already believed to be strongly linked to linguistic processing (which is mostly just rapidly shifting timbral cues - i.e. vowel sounds!), "true pitch" may simply be a kind of infant form of the same kind of neural processing that leads to perfect pitch development in children. So I don't think true pitch is really that far off from native born absolute pitch.

    • @Saxologic
      @Saxologic  Před 5 lety +47

      KIBanshee9 infant form! Cool way to put it. Thanks!

    • @williamboshi1855
      @williamboshi1855 Před 5 lety +1

      that's a cool theory I had never heard

    • @FunDaBounceDJ
      @FunDaBounceDJ Před 4 lety +12

      This list of stages appears on David L. Burge's perfect pitch course. At least it's on the one I acquired some 25 years ago. What I find amusing is that you have re-discovered what was said on that course on your own, making it even more clear that these are trully universal principles.

  • @aphidnotfound9977
    @aphidnotfound9977 Před 4 lety +2

    I have never found a video so helpful and so simple to follow and understand. Thank you so much man. So much respect

  • @alainhalimi3821
    @alainhalimi3821 Před 4 lety

    i am following a few sax channels but i grew to really appreciate the unique value of yours!

  • @dmnddst
    @dmnddst Před 5 lety +530

    Rick Beato: "Wait, that's illegal!"

    • @threepe0
      @threepe0 Před 4 lety +29

      King Harvick Rick Beato: facepalm, these idiots still don’t understand what perfect pitch is

    • @johnvalentine3456
      @johnvalentine3456 Před 4 lety +3

      @@threepe0 Rick's little kid has it and seems also as a bonus to be a frickin' genius, , I think he knows pretty

    • @threepe0
      @threepe0 Před 4 lety +1

      John Valentine yeah I know. That’s exactly what I was saying. I was saying it from Rick’s perspective 😆

    • @LunaticTheCat
      @LunaticTheCat Před 4 lety +11

      @@threepe0 I feel Rick needs to be more open minded about what some people are able to accomplish. Everyone's brain is different.

    • @threepe0
      @threepe0 Před 4 lety +6

      Europa it doesn’t matter what Rick is open minded about here, and it’s irrelevant that people’s brains are different. There is a technical definition of perfect pitch. The poster of the video itself admits that this video doesn’t meet the requirements for perfect pitch. The title is click bait. It doesn’t matter what Rick thinks, and it doesn’t matter what you feel about what Rick thinks. Facts are facts.

  • @vidbat9045
    @vidbat9045 Před 5 lety +710

    Now explain to me how can I do this in my drums.

  • @markthekeyman
    @markthekeyman Před 4 lety +2

    You have an excellent understanding of the subject discussed. Thank you for this. I have tuned over 45,000 pianos and this is the first time I heard something I can actually use to improve my sense of pitch. (Not for tuning pianos; pianos aren't tuned by pitch but by comparing dissonances and consonances).

    • @Saxologic
      @Saxologic  Před 4 lety +1

      markthekeyman 45,000!! Holy cow

  • @2D2Productions
    @2D2Productions Před 3 lety

    thanks for this. I have been working on this for a few months now and it REALLY has helped my ear. I can get to notes faster without thinking about it. They just make themselves available now. like magic! I am very much a beginner but already notice a huge difference in hearing.

  • @bobfrediii2131
    @bobfrediii2131 Před 5 lety +868

    Mi have perfect pitch but it only works for
    E A D G B E

    • @ripsense8064
      @ripsense8064 Před 4 lety +16

      ゚BobFredIII then it should still be easy for you to hear a c and an f

    • @enchantedgamer9428
      @enchantedgamer9428 Před 4 lety +25

      @@ripsense8064 Ur forgeting flats and sharps

    • @ripsense8064
      @ripsense8064 Před 4 lety +5

      EnchantedGamer9 oh yea true

    • @ulasonal
      @ulasonal Před 4 lety +50

      guitarist?

    • @ajbayle5959
      @ajbayle5959 Před 4 lety +1

      Thats called relative pitch

  • @kait6387
    @kait6387 Před 4 lety +8

    When I was 6 and started playing piano all I played was the C scale over and over and over again... I’ve since memorized C and just count up or down from there. Incredibly useful!

  • @FireFlyBlains
    @FireFlyBlains Před 2 lety

    Great vid and love the rawness of the video. Makes me proud to see people doing what they want to do with what they have. Inspiring!

  • @22mingus
    @22mingus Před 5 lety +648

    This is what I did to an extent, but I guess I have really good memory. I memorized a bunch of songs starting notes and relate those notes to what Im hearing so:
    A to me is the first note of Paganinis 24th Caprice
    B is Rondo alla Turca by Mozart
    C is the main melody from Berliozs symphonie fantastique 5th movement
    D is Canon In D's first note
    E is either Seven Nation Army or Fur Elise
    F is the fortnite theme (yes, as a meme),
    G is welcome to the black parade
    Bb is The chicken by jaco pastorious
    Eb is Demons by Imagine Dragons
    C# is This is How I disappear by MCR
    G# is Na Na by MCR
    F# is All Star

    • @lardgedarkrooster6371
      @lardgedarkrooster6371 Před 5 lety +32

      Same, but with different songs/pieces/Normal Violin tuning.
      A is tuning,
      B is Nobody Knows the Troubles I've Seen
      C is tuning
      D is Hungarian Dance no. 5 and tuning
      E is tuning
      F is In the Jungle
      G is tuning
      Bb is Caprice no. 23
      C# is raising C a semi tone
      Eb is the second note of Caprice no. 23
      F# is Jingle Bells or La Campanella
      G# is lowering A a semi tone.

    • @MudStuffin
      @MudStuffin Před 5 lety +23

      Wow, I notice that when I hear a chord or a note I can relate it to a song, but this is usually only if it is the same instrument. I never thought if using that as a guide for perfect pitch.

    • @sargek7
      @sargek7 Před 5 lety +16

      Yeah, there are many strategies and paths to finally get perfect pitch, it's just auditive memory. Just like in maths, also there are many strategies to calculate a problem in your mind, without a calculator.
      When you are so used to the same notes everytime, with time you're not going to need that "template" that you made in your mind anymore. The name of the notes just come up instantly. Everything is practice.

    • @mystii4842
      @mystii4842 Před 5 lety +14

      D is megalovania

    • @Nick-pw9qk
      @Nick-pw9qk Před 5 lety +3

      E is the beginning of just dance by lady gaga

  • @theodorbentzen9013
    @theodorbentzen9013 Před 5 lety +96

    I play piano, i taped colored tape on my keys, C (red), D (Blue) and so on. It really helped me, when i heard a note i was thinking of a color, this helped me a lot!

    • @Saxologic
      @Saxologic  Před 5 lety +15

      Great idea!

    • @lrzhi
      @lrzhi Před 5 lety +16

      I’m colourblind :( damnit, I’ll try with shades xD

    • @theodorbentzen9013
      @theodorbentzen9013 Před 5 lety +2

      I taped from middle C, and up to the next C! :)

    • @lotsofteabutnonetodrink5843
      @lotsofteabutnonetodrink5843 Před 5 lety +1

      LRZ Zhi you could also try numbers or symbols, if that would be easier

    • @jordanbrowne7417
      @jordanbrowne7417 Před 4 lety +1

      C is green and d is yellow and that's how it should stay

  • @csmihaly
    @csmihaly Před 4 lety +3

    This was pretty amazing. The most interesting presentation that I ever heard on music. Nobody ever broke this down like this to me, and I’m playing piano, bassoon, guitar, violin. Ukulele? Anyway. This was fabulous. Thank you.

  • @wetpaperbag1346
    @wetpaperbag1346 Před 3 lety +1

    This was an excellent video and you taught me something that I had been doing subconsciously while I played clarinet.
    In high school band we would do ear training exercises and it was basically this:
    Note is played
    Hum the note
    Think of the fingering for that note
    Play the note
    This is effectively what you're doing, you are just doing it all mentally.
    Even today, seven years later, I still do that in my head to reproduce notes. I haven't played my clarinet in 7 years but I now use that practice to help me place tones on guitar. Very useful skill and anyone who plays an instrument can learn it.

  • @justintime2026
    @justintime2026 Před 5 lety +1762

    Deaf people: nice try bro

    • @_____c___482
      @_____c___482 Před 4 lety +57

      Justin Time Beethoven had perfect pitch and he was deaf

    • @ijuice5641
      @ijuice5641 Před 4 lety +39

      @@_____c___482 youre giving me depressiom

    • @beans6724
      @beans6724 Před 4 lety +19

      @@_____c___482 he had perfect pitch before he was deaf

    • @_____c___482
      @_____c___482 Před 4 lety +9

      Perfection XJ yes but he still knew how the notes sounded while deaf

    • @akashsky2010
      @akashsky2010 Před 4 lety +2

      Beethoven no approve xD

  • @ayuu.
    @ayuu. Před 4 lety +443

    "Your main instrument you play everyday"
    Me: "I play drums. Everyday." 😹

    • @dinkfeatherhead8340
      @dinkfeatherhead8340 Před 4 lety +2

      Same

    • @ayuu.
      @ayuu. Před 4 lety +3

      @Julian Grubb all my drums are definitely tuned. Lol

    • @whyskyjoy
      @whyskyjoy Před 4 lety +40

      I play drums everyday till i developed true vibration. I can tell a snare from a bass drum

    • @ayuu.
      @ayuu. Před 4 lety +8

      Rian That's the best comment I've read! LOL

    • @Frick-bv6xt
      @Frick-bv6xt Před 4 lety +1

      sike

  • @ZachariahMBaird
    @ZachariahMBaird Před 2 lety +2

    I kinda figured this out on my own, also on alto saxophone, and at the beginning of the video I was within a half-step of most of the notes he guessed. It's nice to hear it explained.

  • @danielstrong802
    @danielstrong802 Před 3 lety

    Right on my man! Haven't thought about pitch on the keyboard from a vowel perspective. Even as a keyboardist, I find your videos quite helpful. thank you for the work you do.

  • @agmonBeats
    @agmonBeats Před 5 lety +521

    Is this like Dwayne johnson and bruno mars rolled into one?lmao😂

  • @MrCaragen
    @MrCaragen Před 5 lety +153

    I got the impression, that the saxophon actually is one of the best instruments to learn true pitch.

    • @Saxologic
      @Saxologic  Před 5 lety +35

      I think I agree! Oboe would be very good too, probably even better. Clarinet is great, lots of timbre differences. Flute is good. Etc

    • @kingrat9741
      @kingrat9741 Před 4 lety +16

      guitar is fucking shit for it lmao

    • @sy5763
      @sy5763 Před 4 lety +8

      What about violin? My violin teacher told me she almost had perfect pitch but had difficulty in low pitches. Because violin was her first instrument and it does not have low pitches. She said her sister started with piano and did not have this problem. This makes me wonder if the little kids who developed perfect pitch before 6 actually got it through this real pitch method too. It’s just that they got it so early and passed the stage of playing instrument in their brain very early, and they were kids they did not rationalize how and whys. So it appears they just got it.

    • @dathunderman4
      @dathunderman4 Před 4 lety

      before it gets better the darkness gets bigger why is guitar bad? Is piano good?

    • @akrobeau
      @akrobeau Před 4 lety

      Saxologic yess oboe

  • @LePeppino
    @LePeppino Před 4 lety +2

    At first, I was held off by the clickbaity title, but you really had some great points here. Well explained. It gave me some confidence for training more!

  • @anxylum
    @anxylum Před 2 měsíci

    Thank you! You’re actually the first person I’ve heard talk about this. I’ve actually had music teachers argue with me that only each instrument has its own timbre, not each note. Finally. Thank you.❤

  • @SuperRand13
    @SuperRand13 Před 4 lety +62

    Dude. I've always though "Surely, if I can recognize a persons voice a week after I first meet them then surely there's a way I can also learn to recognize a note because of its distinct timbre." but i've been to lazy to come up with any method to test this out. So thank you for doing this for me!!

  • @tonywatson8959
    @tonywatson8959 Před 5 lety +3

    thanks for teaching me how to slap tongue at ecu a few years ago, i now play beatbox bari sax for my band and life is good

  • @ferialsouhail
    @ferialsouhail Před 9 měsíci

    Dude, you are chilled I really admire your style ❤ I’m happy I came across your video on CZcams, it’s worth listening to!!

  • @raulgil7389
    @raulgil7389 Před 3 lety

    Developed whistle pitch early in life because the wind instrument accompanied me everywhere.
    My mother and my grandmother told me to never loose my head.
    Good thing it’s attached to my body, thus, whistling will continue until death do us apart. Thxs 4 sharing

  • @musicwithvishnu
    @musicwithvishnu Před 4 lety +4

    Super cool discussion dude! Thanks a bunch for this! I play saxophone too, and just by playing I've memorized a a handful of notes, but haven't put in the timbre reps to get them all. Before this, I hadn't really understood what people meant by "true pitch" or perfect pitch on a specific instrument (the audiation part by imagining yourself playing your own instrument). That was the light bulb moment. I did start learning perfect pitch by memorizing beginning notes of tunes I love though! That totally helps get the keys of songs very quickly too once you practice singing the notes of the songs. That's also audiation because you're recalling a tune, but it makes a lot of sense to learn your own sound for you instrument. I'll try it this way too now :D

  • @operatic9537
    @operatic9537 Před 4 lety +66

    Fun fact: the sound in this video is half a semitone sharp. I wasn't sure if it was the piano or the video but the sax confirmed it.

    • @mgmg116
      @mgmg116 Před 4 lety +20

      So like... 50 Cent would like this video?

    • @christophersanguino7828
      @christophersanguino7828 Před 4 lety +1

      mgmg this is under appreciated thank you so much oh fuck

    • @purpledino5048
      @purpledino5048 Před 4 lety

      Operatic how the fu-

    • @operatic9537
      @operatic9537 Před 4 lety

      @@purpledino5048 I have perfect pitch. If you have a keyboard next to your PC/laptop you could do it that way too.

    • @lucasgrey1017
      @lucasgrey1017 Před 4 lety

      I thought I was bugging out

  • @johnvalentine3456
    @johnvalentine3456 Před 4 lety

    Your an in incredibly smart and nice person, I hope your life unfolds in a way deserving of your generosity and talent.

  • @awakeandignorant8743
    @awakeandignorant8743 Před 3 lety

    Excellent m’y Guy! So grateful to learn from you. Language is the use of one sense to describe the others…by creating secondary associations with the primary concept- timbre -pitch- you are mapping out a sensory concept!!! How cool! I love this kind of stuff!

  • @alejandroortiza8685
    @alejandroortiza8685 Před 4 lety +4

    I just loved the intro XD how casually you approached the camera

  • @ManuelGonzalez-uy1fl
    @ManuelGonzalez-uy1fl Před 6 lety +238

    Dude, your facial expressions throughout the video were killing me! xD Nah, but in all seriousness this actually makes me want to learn perfect pitch, i’ve never thought about giving notes literal vowel sounds and i can hear it all too, i also play alto sax and will begin to incorporate these tips whenever i practice, ty for thy useful tips siar!

    • @ManuelGonzalez-uy1fl
      @ManuelGonzalez-uy1fl Před 6 lety

      Saxologic ty

    • @MontoyaMatrix
      @MontoyaMatrix Před 2 lety

      Write down what you hear. (The differences in the colorings of each pitch). And especially start to compare notes that are close to each other. So that you can begin to see the subtle differences..

  • @inxayn
    @inxayn Před 2 lety +1

    the amount of character you have makes this video so enjoyable 😭🖤

  • @raminmousivand4257
    @raminmousivand4257 Před 5 lety +156

    You just spoke my mind, this is what I'm trying to do and worked. Your example of the baseball player was my exact words pronounced by you. Thanks for your video dude :like:

  • @alantremonti1381
    @alantremonti1381 Před 3 lety +8

    My tinnitus gives me an unshakable reference for the rest of my pitch/tuning...

  • @theunforbiddenfruit2527

    I thought this was like a false hope. Thank You, this makes perfect sense. Especially helpful was playing the instrument in your head.

  • @grammotron
    @grammotron Před 3 lety

    You just gave me a gigantic boost of motivation! Thanks man!

  • @eduardogarcia6625
    @eduardogarcia6625 Před 5 lety +45

    I have the G from welcome to the black parade engraved in my mind so I just check intervals but it's still a little hard
    You are awesome fam!

  • @emilbirk6144
    @emilbirk6144 Před rokem +3

    I’ve watched this a few times and wanted to try it as my transcribing is poor to say the least. I’ve tried multiple times ear training apps but I can never stick at it and usually I get frustrated because I might do it for a month and my ears seem to have not developed at all. This seems a good way to relate ear training to your instrument. I will update if I manage to get good at this or not

  • @SophiaXGuo
    @SophiaXGuo Před 4 lety

    Lucky to find your video and have tried to so hard!Now totally confident to train ears for perfect pitch recognition!👏

  • @astralbuddha
    @astralbuddha Před 3 lety

    A very useful video that needed to exist. Your speech style naturally has me being more receptive to the information (super learning?).

  • @dancepants3399
    @dancepants3399 Před 4 lety +3

    this dude's so chill

  • @KraussEMUS1
    @KraussEMUS1 Před 5 lety +3

    Hey SaxoLogic Guy,
    This is one of my favorite videos on CZcams.
    Thanks a lot!!
    If you could perhaps also do a video that runs through all 12 pitches that would be even better!!

  • @FognarFoehammer
    @FognarFoehammer Před 3 lety

    Dude, your videos continue to impress. I’m going to try this out on my tenor.

  • @lightesque1407
    @lightesque1407 Před 4 lety

    This is actually really cool, and I'm super excited to try it out. Thankyou

  • @bloomfilms
    @bloomfilms Před 5 lety +8

    0:53 left a like just for the accuracy

  • @JustinMasayda
    @JustinMasayda Před 4 lety +128

    “People who are ‘born’” Yeah, if you really were even born

    • @Saxologic
      @Saxologic  Před 4 lety +28

      lmao, yeah those types of people are the worst

  • @msquaredmusic2820
    @msquaredmusic2820 Před 3 lety

    Lol I always saw this video being recommended but just decided to watch it.. It's your personality that really sold this idea to me xD Thanks for the great info

  • @pallavisreetambraparni6995

    I was in chorus in elementary school, junior high school, high school and college. I was also in county level junior and senior honors choruses for 4 years during high school and masterworks chorus during high school. I have also taken voice lessons. But i need to work on developing perfect pitch and this video will help. Thanks so much.

  • @kentosalazar
    @kentosalazar Před 5 lety +4

    that’s crazy. i have “true pitch” but never thought about why i have it. the vowel thing is so true but never did it consciously

  • @mkpianofab
    @mkpianofab Před 5 lety +6

    Also, Perfect Pitch is not just a "trick". It is wonderful in composing as your ideas go from you thoughts right to notation. It also enhances the listening experience.

  • @Ihbaworldsax
    @Ihbaworldsax Před 4 lety

    This video is so helpful!! Thanks for the Upload Star!

  • @mariomorales6450
    @mariomorales6450 Před 3 lety

    I’m soooo happy I came across your video bro!! 🙏🏼

  • @rooney1002
    @rooney1002 Před 3 lety +6

    when he played that first note at 1:50 , nocturne op 9 no 2 started playing in my head

  • @lil_weasel219
    @lil_weasel219 Před 5 lety +8

    This is musical memory. And from guessing /knowing the g you can guess the rest

  • @Lmfenhir
    @Lmfenhir Před 4 lety

    I am beginning to identify the notes by memorizing exactly the timbre, as I do for singing. But they told me it was impossible, now I know which direction I'm going, and I will continue, thank you very much

  • @Rusty-METAL-J
    @Rusty-METAL-J Před rokem +1

    Great video Mane. Don't call yourself nothing. You are a musician, saxophonist, hornist, and pianist. You have way more of a handle on this absolute pitch than I do.

  • @Eichro
    @Eichro Před 4 lety +25

    Joke's on you, i was over 6 when the first smash came out.

  • @theforrester2780
    @theforrester2780 Před 3 lety +15

    Naysayers “perfect pitch cannot be acquired”
    This guy: “I acquired perfect pitch”
    Naysayers “it is not perfect pitch because you acquired it”
    Beg the question much?
    This guy has perfect pitch. Yes some have it better some have it worse. He has it

  • @spectrumfamily7227
    @spectrumfamily7227 Před 3 lety

    This is amazing, so well explained! Thank you

  • @mccplayzmc7113
    @mccplayzmc7113 Před 4 lety +1

    in the middle of this video i got an ad for a website that teaches you perfect pitch... youve been outplayed, nathan

  • @spacevspitch4028
    @spacevspitch4028 Před 5 lety +82

    Dammit dude! You just outlined brilliantly how I did it (I have a video of me identifying notes this way). No one has ever described my own experience so well! I took it a step further though and really learned to hear into the harmonics of each note. I play a note and mentally focus my ear on each harmonic from the fundamental up to about the 11th or 12th harmonic. Each pitch sounds like a unique vowel sound. It also creates a kind of shape/texture experience. Each pitch a unique shape/texture.
    At some point, with years of practice, your experience of these pitch qualities expands to pretty much any timbre and you automatically identify notes, chords, keys regardless of timbre and without having to fish around in your head to find your "true pitch" instrument sounds. You just hear those sound qualities independent of timbre. I use apps on my phone and computer to work on this more.
    Also...I remember Shawn Thunder Wallace's video on "true pitch" from years ago. I took issue with it back then because at that point I had made a lot of progress with perfect pitch without even being aware of what I was doing. So his "true pitch" concept didn't really sound like my experience. But I realize now that that was going on under the surface the whole time. And since my recognition of pitch had expanded to include other timbres, I didn't see how it related to a single initial timbre.
    As of late, I've been referring to it as "micro-timbre" - the subtle differences between the pitches within a single instrument. And the way you described the vowel sounds while playing and singing the notes was exactly my experience! Friggin awesome, man!
    The only thing I want to add is that I really feel that there's more to it than just being a parlor trick. Developing this perception has really changed my entire experience of music over the years. Each pitch has its own unique character and this has a huge effect on the sound of different keys and adds an extra layer of meaning to songs and pieces of music. So it's not just this dry naming-of-pitches thing. There is a whole different dimension to music and has deepened my connection to it in a massive way. Like, a lot of times, the unique sound of a particular key that a piece of music is in is a big part of what I love about it. Like, it just wouldn't be the same in any other key.

    • @maunichyr
      @maunichyr Před 5 lety

      KIBanshee9 dude whoa .. friggin awesomeness.. woa

    • @sy5763
      @sy5763 Před 4 lety

      Yes. You are absolutely right. I am just a beginner in violin. I ask the silly question like why are many of the best violin pieces in D major. I got the answer that in D major more notes get resonance with open strings so it sounds better. That’s one example of your last point

    • @lyndaszabomusic
      @lyndaszabomusic Před 4 lety

      Thats incredible! I have been trying to find a source on learning perfect pitch for so long. I knew that it wasnt impossible. Nothings impossible. I read your comment with my jaw dropped lol. I am looking forward to learning this. Just wow

  • @SadisticKillerXx
    @SadisticKillerXx Před 5 lety +13

    1:51, I recognized that note instantly because of Chopin's nocturne :0

  • @jasonyoungblood9359
    @jasonyoungblood9359 Před 3 lety

    Thank you so much!!! I NEEDED to see this video! I've been trying to develop perfect pitch for like 10 years now. (I know you have to be born with it, lol) but that doesn't stop me!

  • @thekingsmagic5011
    @thekingsmagic5011 Před 3 lety

    This is so helpful, the whole concept is so cool and who would have thought that I'd be using this for a magic trick haha!

  • @projectrk1347
    @projectrk1347 Před 5 lety +266

    Is it weird that instead of color I can hear notes as numbers? When I hear notes I can mentally see a number and the note with it.

    • @littlefishbigmountain
      @littlefishbigmountain Před 5 lety +11

      That’s interesting! Which numbers do you feel for each note?

    • @MarsLos10
      @MarsLos10 Před 5 lety +61

      This may be a rare kind of synesthesia :) some people see colors when they hear notes.
      I see colors when I read numbers or individual letters and that's kind of a memory cheat. I can memorize phone numbers within a second

    • @jeremyed9507
      @jeremyed9507 Před 5 lety +121

      I see dead people

    • @frankharmer9352
      @frankharmer9352 Před 5 lety +11

      I understand this! Not quite to the extent of a specific number, but I hear/see notes as even or odd, and specific chords as even or odd, etc. I thought I was the only one with this kind of experience!

    • @fifthdaniel6413
      @fifthdaniel6413 Před 4 lety +5

      You have synesthesia man

  • @craftyandtherapy2227
    @craftyandtherapy2227 Před 4 lety +4

    That is why I struggled in Music Theory. We had to sing a scale without a reference. He would say, “Sing a Doran scale”. I always practiced with an electronic piano. So it all sounded the same. I get it now!

  • @HartmutGoetze
    @HartmutGoetze Před 4 lety

    What a wonderful lesson ... thank you! 🙏💖

  • @greyspookss
    @greyspookss Před 2 lety

    Dude I am getting better. I watched this vid and when you showed yourself playing a note and guessing it was I got it too!!

  • @AlexandraByers
    @AlexandraByers Před 6 lety +5

    I worship you

    • @Saxologic
      @Saxologic  Před 5 lety +1

      Alexandra Byers Alex 😂😂😂😂

  • @samuelreyes7467
    @samuelreyes7467 Před 5 lety +3

    I died when you said “I got a laptop but now I am broke again because of that laptop “ 😂

  • @jasonmingledorff4706
    @jasonmingledorff4706 Před 2 lety

    Lol, I watched this whole thing at 75% speed without realizing it and thought you were totally stoned. Love your videos! Great content.

  • @alejandromedina2349
    @alejandromedina2349 Před 4 lety

    I am really thankful for this. Congrats

  • @fatbeast9367
    @fatbeast9367 Před 4 lety +8

    10:44 I tried doing this in class. The other kids thought I was mental...

  • @raphaelcardoso1194
    @raphaelcardoso1194 Před 5 lety +18

    I want to bring this discussion to as Engineering point of view: when you talk about a timbre, you're talking about harmonics, or overtones, that are played at the same time. So If you use the tonic (the note you're playing) as reference, you can figure out which overtones are those, in the way of tone color, so True Pitch is literally harmonic Relative Pitch.

    • @arikayemusic
      @arikayemusic Před 4 lety

      That's amazing! I love seeing the connections between mathematics, physics, and music.

  • @whatisit1746
    @whatisit1746 Před 2 lety

    Smart. I especially liked the saxophone demonstrations.

  • @MartinManweiler
    @MartinManweiler Před 4 lety +1

    Pause: What you said at around 4:30 was brilliant. When we hear a note; we know what note that is just by hearing it. We can identify that note linguistically just like we can identify colors linguistically by identifying the terminology. There are a lot of colors, and someone who hasn't went to Art school might not be able to accurately portray that color using words, but it still looks the same. It's the same with perfect pitch, we all have perfect hearing- it's just knowing and understanding the language.

  • @bryanpasian
    @bryanpasian Před 4 lety +44

    the weird thing is that me and two sisters were raised playing music since like age 3. Both sisters started at a conservatory music school at 5 years old with weekly piano lessons.
    Not me. i had sporadic lessons outside of school. But...I was the only one who developed perfect pitch ear..... Why?

    • @stefaneduard8169
      @stefaneduard8169 Před 4 lety +12

      Genetic shit going on

    • @grayd4175
      @grayd4175 Před 4 lety +5

      maybe u got a higher IQ

    • @Max-yp1iw
      @Max-yp1iw Před 4 lety +3

      Gray Dowsett hahahah wtf

    • @MontoyaMatrix
      @MontoyaMatrix Před 2 lety +2

      You were able to meditate and take the time to think out of the educational box.

    • @bryanpasian
      @bryanpasian Před 2 lety

      @@MontoyaMatrix its possible. It was weird when I found out. Just one day at like 13yrs old my piano teacher was like “hold on turn around and guess what notes i play”
      And after a few rapid succession responses, he was like “oh my god…. You have perfect pitch!!!”