The First Credo Colloquy: Carl Trueman and Matthew Barrett
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- Welcome to the first Credo Colloquy, an exclusive dialogue between theologians brought to you by Zondervan Academic. In this new series leading theologians engage one another on some of the most important issues in theology facing the church. In this first colloquy, Timothy Gatewood talked to Credo Fellow, Carl R. Trueman, and editor-in-chief, Matthew Barrett.
The topic on the table for this first colloquy could not be more relevant: Did the Reformers consider their reforms a break with the past or a renewal of catholicity? Both Trueman and Barrett believe the answer to that question should locate Protestantism within rather than outside the one, holy, catholic, and apostolic church.
But how can this be when so many narratives of the Reformation today give the impression that the 16th century was a period of Protestant opposition to a church corrupted by everything medieval? Trueman and Barrett give an answer, convinced that many of the problems that plague evangelicals today can be traced back to a mistaken understanding of our own Protestant roots. Using Barrett's new book The Reformation as Renewal (Zondervan Academic) as a foil, together these theologians called on the crowd to reconsider what it truly means to be Protestant after a half a century of scholarship in the primary sources.
Carl R. Trueman is a prominent church historian, theologian, and professor at Grove City College, Pennsylvania. He is the author of numerous books on theology, culture, and the Reformation, including The Rise and Triumph of the Modern Self (Crossway, 2020) and Luther on the Christian Life (Crossway, 2015).
Matthew Barrett is the editor-in-chief of Credo Magazine and host of the Credo podcast. He is professor of Christian theology at Midwestern Baptist Theological Seminary, and director of the Center for Classical Theology. He is the author of several books, including Simply Trinity, which won the Christianity Today Book of the Year Award in Theology. His new book is called The Reformation as Renewal: Retrieving the One, Holy, Catholic, and Apostolic Church. Currently, he is writing a Systematic Theology with Baker Academic.
We hope that you find this colloquy enlightening, and we encourage you to return in the future for many more conversations like this one. Thank you for joining us at the Credo Colloquy.
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Barrett and Trueman are powerhouses. So appreciative of their work!
Thanks for this discussion. Looking forward to Barrett's forthcoming book!
So very, very helpful and important. Great stuff!
Wow! Oro puro. Magistral!
Interesting and helpful!
Will the Trueman lecture in November be filmed and put online?
Rightly Divided, Read David F.Wells for better clarity on this Church History confusion episode.
This is gold!
The shoes and socks....
They could wear safari suits and brown leather shoes.......
Man that was good !
How dare Carl Trueman call out Leighton Flowers like that!
Leighton likes to call out others, so it's fair for him to get called out.
45:00 Interesting. Luther: "We gave the people the Gospel, and they behaved like irrational swine."
If there is so much continuity, and catholicity why not invite Catholics from your local parish in Ambler, Pa to join in communion with those who have reaponded to the effectial call by celebrating communion together? Cornerstone Presbyterian Church in Ambler, Pa does not believe in transibstatiation dies it?
The English reformation was done to achieve a divirce for the British Monarch.
That's only partly true because there were movements happening before that.
"There is a unity [in the church catholic] that runs deeper than institutions... a unity that is invisible." I'll say. I've never seen it in Protestantism (and I was in 46 years). I know there is a desire to show connectivity between the Reformers and the Church Fathers... but that connectivity must be understood within the context of real Catholic Unity (Big "C" Catholic). Calvin can take Augustine's teaching on the doctrines of grace and say that he is merely continuing in that Patristic tradition, but Augustine was unapologetically part of the Catholic Church... and would have spurned Calvin as a rebel for his schismatic actions alone-- not just his heretical views of the sacraments (which Augustine would have also denounced-- among other positions). I would be curious to get these men's views on Augustine's devotion to the Catholic Church. "[S]chismatics...in wicked separations break off from brotherly charity, although they may believe just what we believe." (from Augustine's "Faith and the Creed")
Scotus over Thomas on univocity and simplicity. Thomas over Scotus on intellectualism than voluntarism