Big Muff Shootout
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Who needs ASMR when you can listen to the classic riffs over and over as he tweaks the settings on all the pedals. I'm not even joking this is satisfying to listen to đ
Big Muff ASMR
Outside of the Big Muff clone conversation. I wanted to let you know the DRONE MASTER is absolutely fantastic. It is way more nuanced than I expected. The DM is extremely sensitive to your pick attack, vol, and has all the harmonics. Excellent work. Thank you for sharing your gift.
10,000 Years is still the fucking bomb to this day. Such an awesome pile of riffs
Such a classic!
I love how nasty the fuzz war is, it's different enough that i didnt even know it was a muff clone until this video
Not like an exact clone but I think it was like their answer to the muff and has an extra gain stage. Such a cool pedal!
@@FuzzlordEffects for sure, its a cool sound and less dark than a lot of muffs
I understood it was based off a Supa Tonebender, which itself was a modified Big Muff. Whatever the provenance, itâs a great pedal.
I did not either
The band that first made me love the muff was Mudhoney. They used op-amp muffs along with a univox superfuzz
I think Steve Turner used a V6, the early 80s transistor version, they have a really weird almost spitty breakup compared to most Muff models, the only thing that sounds similar to those is the Nano according to him.
Thanks for the deep muff dive
The Fuzz Lord mf-4 is Killer! đ€đŒGreat homage!
Thank you!
Lee Ranaldo, J Mascis. and Robert Fripp used the Black Russian Big Muff! That's the one I have, but I want the green one and the NYC too
Me and Lou from Halfway to Gone had the Black and Yellow and bought them on tour with Alabama Thunderpussy in Tampa...when we were in Solarized.
Who likes Big Muffs and Matt Pike? This guy!!! All were great, but the EHX Op-Amp, and the Triangle clone really stood out for me.
FUZZ WAR WAS THE GNARLIEST..sounded stand out different than all of them
That DBA Fuzz War đ„
I own 4 different muffs, the green reissue, the NYC nano, op amp reissue and a bass big muff, they are all super different, best fuzz sound of all time.
That Fuzz war sounds crazy. I was also really surprised how good the Op Amp reissue sounded. Of course the MF-4 is always killer. That's why its my Fuzz of choice. đ€
I just built myself a green Russian clone with a toggle for flat EQ and I'm thinking about adding some more mods. I listen to a ton of artists that use muffs and it's hard not to love the sound, but for some reason, they've never really FELT the way I wanted them to playing through them.
I've been enjoying my op amp reissue lately..I do wanna grab a green Russian reissue though to try it out....also looking to snag a swollen pickle,I don't hear a ton about that pedal surprisingly
My favourite is still a triangle I think. I have tried to like more modern muffs and its the style I think I prefer. Depends on the amp, guitar and riffs but there is something I like in the midrange (or lack thereof being a muff).
Such a great video man, been looking forward to this one. For me the Green Russian is the holy grail, but when it comes to cutting through a mix in a band situation, maybe the triangle or op amp would be better. MF 4 mid versatility is damn cool too đ€. How about a RAT circuit shoot-out next?
+1 Rat shootout! đ€đ€đ€
I'm pretty sure it's the exact opposite of what you wrote, Nigel.
The Green Russian has more low-end and way more mids than the Op-Amp, which is voiced more 'scooped' (unless you set the Tone stack bypass on).
The Triangle also has less mids than the Green Russian, so in a band mix context the one that would cut through the most would definitely be the Green Russian.
It's the 'fattest' of the three variants.
@@youreallygotmenow4855 the best kill-switch Iâve found is a green russian muff, just kick that thing on and drop out of the mix completely lol thats been my experience in a band anyway.
Black Russian and the MF4 FTW.
Plumes(mode 1) as a drive into a Big Muff w/ Tone wicker, wicker on is the absolute thickest but still tight sounding fuzz tone i've ever gotten
I use the plumes (mode 1) into my black arts tone works black sheep fuzz . With little analog delay ( DOD rubberneck) it's soul crushing.
I run a Plumes into a Doom Bloom. Yea it dooms
Love the MF-4 and Triangle clone. Was also surprised that I didn't hate the NYC, I usually have a hard time liking that one, but it sounded great here.
I was suprised the NYC did so well too!
They all sound incredible, I'm a Green Russian fan but that Black Russian sounds pretty tight, nice in any setting. Might have to build one and have a play around. Nice đ
Itâs such a hard choice between those two!
Ramâs Head checking in
Hell yeah!! Wish we had one for demo!
op amp reissue is my favorite but the Triangle clone is a close second. that being said i could see the mf4 land on either my guitar or bass boards
Enjoyed that shootout. Didn't realise how the volume knob affects the tone.
They all sounded quite similar to me, until you started sweeping the tone knob. I like the way the Green Russian starts to crap our at either end of the tone range.
I used to own an original op-amp fuzz. Sold it last year as it was the worst sounding fuzz I owned out of about 7 different fuzzes I have.
First of your videos I've come across; just subscribed. Nice one!
The tone of pedal itself does not really change with the level control but the amp gets hit harder and compresses more.
That's why it sounds brigther and clearer with low output and sludgier with higher output.
Just fyi :)
Yeah the volume known sure does change how it sounds going into the amp! I think I liked it a little more with the volume set a little lower
This should be great! I think the Black Russian was either my first pedal or at least in the first couple of pedals.
Great shootout Fuzzlord! :) I have always wanted a big muff, so a few months ago I got my hands on a green russian reissue , killer pedal, but I didn't stop there of course! lol Picked up an OP amp reissue which I love and the deluxe version of the russian with the mids controls. That pedal is so versatile. My 2 dream pedals to add to my fuzzlection are the MF-4 and the FET-120. I would love to see a fuzzlord only board build in a video!
Turning this on full volume clears the water, dust in my stereo speaker!
Great video Jason!!! They all sounded pretty good to me!!!đ€đŒđ€đŒđ€đŒ
Thanks Chris! I dug them all also but feel like the Fuzz War could have used a little tweak on the amp but wanted to keep it the same for good comparison
Song at the beginning Sleep - Dragonaut
Digging the Castlevania vibes on the MF-4. Sick artwork! Also the pedal sounds cool. Green muff is still my fave, but I might have to get the MF-4 just for the Dracula face.
Green Russian is G.O.A.T
it's so good!
That triangle muff you did sounds killer. Imo that is the best one. If you were to make that circuit (maybe even with a mids control) I would buy that thing immediately.
I agree
I own two green Russians and they both sound very unique and different from each other
Classic Big Muff is still my favorite, MF-4 was the only one that contested it in my opinion, opamp muff and death by audio are the honorable mentions
The classic muff sounded so good! Cheers Bruce!
My favourite muff pedals:
The Cream Puff from Frantone you will not find a gnarlier fuzz. It still blows me away every time I turn it on.
The Pharaoh from BAT.
The Fig Fumb from Stone Deaf.
The Swamplord from Minotaur Sonic Terrors
The Caprid from Wren and Cuff.
Thatâs badass!
What a video. Crazy you got all these in one video. That's the most muff I've ever seen at once. Sick clone you built \m/ I love my Russian
My favorite was the opamp version. I used those with my former band. They have this smooth and grainy sound we loved and thereâs no position on that pedal you cant use
I liked how much presence it had! Thanks for watching Fred đ€
My introduction to Muffland was the Black Russian; I had owned a Sovtek amp but was stunned to find out that there were pedals from them too! And Thus, the rabbit hole was breached. Lol
All these sound great, of course, but I really like the versatility of the MF-4; that mid control is killer! The Fuzz War sounds like itâs got loads of gain on tap! đ€đ€đ€
Once I found the Green Russian, I never looked back!
Awesome comparison! Cheers from Massachusetts!
Wow Awesome fuzz sound! Love this!
Thank you for sharingđ„đđ„
Definitely should do a Big muff shootout 2. Would be pretty sweet demoing BAT the oath or destroyer or other one knob/no knob type fuzz pedals. Thanks guys.
Does it doom did it
With a Fuzzlord pedal in video đ€
great vid! Oh how I wish you threw the Big Muff with tone Wicker in there too!
Ah totally that would have been a great addition!!!
Iirc, Garrett from Windhand used to use the OpAmp Muff a lot in their early days.
Tone at about 11 o'clock on a few sounded great, even if you just quickly passed over it. Just me..?
All sound great. But I think the one that really caught my ear is the Triangle Big Muff Clone.
That triangle muff is so good!
That was my favorite
I got about one second and had to give the sub and like. I mean if i hear big muff and Matt Pike in the same sentence pretty sure i found my little shady corner of the interwebs đŹđ
So I own the op amp and the Fuzzlord MF-4 and they're still my favorite muffs every. when I want something more abrasive and screech-ey i use the op amp and the fuzzlord when i want something huge and doom-ey.
Would like the Fuzzlord to bless the Orange Fur Coat.
Eric on drums đ
He is so talented!
I have a clone that I built using EQD's Hoof resistor and capacitor specs, but 2n5088 transistors and red LEDs in both clipping stages. It's flexible enough to get me most of the Muff sounds, but it's not as ragged as I want at times. I'm thinking about building a triangle Muff with the green Russian tone stack values.
I have the op-amp. I kinda liked your triangle clone a little better thoughđđđ»
TC Electronics Honeypot Fuzz is another really decent Muff-esque pedal and they run super cheap.
Iâll have to check that out!
I think truckfighter uses the Russian big muff.
Ufomammut uses the green russian muff, for guitar IIRC
Mufftastic. Dug Em All .. Nice Jason.
All are valid pedals IMO, but I think the Black Russian and the OpAmp have an edge on the fuzzy.
Fuzz Lord mf-4 was my favorite :-)
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My favorites are the Green Russian and the MF-4. I have an MF-4 and a JAM Pedals Red Muck that are my 2 favorite fuzz pedals and interestingly, they are both loosely based on the Green Russian and the Civil War. That Triangle clone sounds amazing too. My name is Jeff Brancato, I am realizing this is my wife's youtube account haha
great video! A rat style pedal would be a cool video too.
Also it would be cool to see you do an affordable guitar shoot-out; Harley Benton and epiphone and such. I've got a harley benton DC VI, its like an old custom SG copy, the one with 3 pickups. It dooms incredibly well. Just thought it'd be cool to hear your thoughts on one
All great ideas thank you!!! I think we can make the rat style video happen in the near future (:
You should check out 60 cycle hum CZcams channel, heâs got quite a few affordable guitar videos.
I think they all sound good in their own way. It's all subjective anyways.
Hey Jason! What is your signal chain here?
Sounds sick!
Cheers from The Netherlands
Sorry I didnât specify. Iâll add to description....
Running a looper pedal into the muffs and then direct into Fuzzlord FTW45 amp, load box, cab sim, into reaper to record
FUZZ LORD MF-IV is the only way to go IMNSHO.
Not only for its distinct sound that murders my 500 watt Lil bass thing and 1x15....and not only for the best graphic art ever produced....but mainly because I bought from Jason and Fuzz Lord!
Also, thank you to Jared @ beholdin to the riff for putt'n out his demo that sealed the deal for me!
I'm curious to find out what it would sound like on top of the Orange 500 watt bass terror with tube pre amp and dirty gain.
Hi, great demo !!! Are they all with silicon transistor (exept the Op of course) ?
Yes đ€
Great Video! I use different muff/muff inspired pedals for different guitars. My favorites are Fuzzlord: MF-4, Stomp Under Foot: Civil Unrest, EHX: Op-Amp RI, and EHX: Russian RI. The only 2 I could use with every guitar are the MF-4 and Op-Amp. Op-Amp seems to be a bit thin at times tho(not always a bad thing) The Civil Unrest has a mids knob as does MF-4 But they are COMPLETELY different. SUF Civil Unrest is an awesome take on the russian/civil war muff. I for some reason want every type of Muff pedal there is...
I think Matt Sharp from Weezer used a Green Russian Big Muff on bass
Thatâs badass!
I have a black V7D and V8, op amp, muffeletta, fuzz war V1(wich imo is 10 times as sick as the 3 knob V2), pharaoh and home made modded pharaoh. Pharaoh is my favorite then the V7D.. Might need a MF4
V1 fuzz war are rare as hen's teeth, sweet score dude. DBA maintains that they're the same as the 3 knobber, what difference do you notice?
Personally my favorite "muff" is a swollen pickle boosting a dirty amp. Thick as elephant shit
Which would you recommend for stacking with a distorted amp ?
MF-4 is the most versatile of the bunch for sure
Can the rams head or triangle muff doom?
Check out the triangle muff clone in this video cheers đ€
Any big muff can. Just use the tone control.
Black Russian
MF-4
OP Amp
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Cheers!
The Russian sounds the best
Alright đ€đ€
No Big muff pie Deluxe?
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The Russian! Super rad
ISO: 100nF ELECTROLYTIC CAPACITORS
It seems like these pedals need a lot of those, and idk what's going on but I can't find them. Any help appreciated!!
Hey man, what schematic are you using?
If this is your first time building a muff, I suggest you check out www.electrosmash.com/big-muff-pi-analysis
It's really helpful and explains almost every detail of the circuit.
There are no 100nF Electrolytic Capacitors needed, just some 100nF Film Capacitors (or 1uF film, depending on the muff model)
I hope this helps!
Common value of cap you can find on google, but film caps are going to be the normal to use for that value.
Usually electrolytic caps are 1uF and larger. Cheers!
MF-4 all day long
Thanks Josh cheers!
The guitarist from Whirr uses the black russian! They do a great job using the low gain fizziness its great at! Listen to Ghost off their album Distressor. Once you listen to that track dont listen to them ever again because they are transphobic!