Tali Romance Arc Reaction 💜 From Mass Effect 2 & Mass Effect 3
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- čas přidán 19. 06. 2024
- Hi Mass Effect fans! In this video, I finally sit down to watch the romance arc between Tali and Shepard. I understand why this is seemingly the most loved romance in the series. Thank you for watching!
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2:40 Tali Romance Arc
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I have to say, Tali's voice actress crushed this role. You never really see her face, yet she is able to present an incredible range of emotion. She's still one of my favorite characters in Mass Effect.
Tali's voice actress does an AMAZING job, I agree. I think her and Samara are my favorite just for their voice acting alone.
Damn right
Tali’s “I have a home.” Is the best line in ME.
it gets me every time along with her breaking voice while she tells you "I want more time"
Incorrect
"My turn He, He, He" - Urdnott Grunt
@@keirangray902 its a great line but tali really managed to break my heart into a thousand little pieces and put it all together again with just that voice and some words
I have been trying my best to get the perfect ending where Shepherd still lives just so Tali would have her love back.
I do that because of that raw emotion and how upset, scared, shock, and countless other emotions words cannot describe that she was going through.
She finally found love with someone who loved her unconditionally just as she did him, only knowing he would not make it back to her alive.
That is a cruel fate Bioware gave to the player and Tali.
Tali was the only one who was the purest of all the romantic options with her feelings and actions.
There is a mod that gives the perfect ending that bypass the horrible three endings and does away with the star child and goes right for the destroy ending.
It's worth looking into and watching it if you can find it.
The best line he has is what he says at the very end of the trial when he says that his situation is better because he has a Shepard
If you pay attention to the Shadow Broker file on Tali, she watched Fleet and Flotilla a lot on the Normandy SR-2 during the suicide mission.
If you pay attention to the scene Tali and Shepard watch Fleet and Flotilla in Shep's apartment, the dialogue between Sheelai and Bellicus is word for word the same as Tali and Shepard's romance dialogue in Mass Effect 2. Tali used lines from her favorite movie to seduce Shepard and he, despite having never seen Fleet and Flotilla, quoted the response lines back at her- which explains Tali's shock that male Shepard never watched the movie.
"You sound like a vorcha" is especially hilarious considering Mark Meer (MaleShep) also voiced most if not all of the vorcha in the game.
LOL I forgot this!
Tali and Garus are the definition of ride or die
If you pick neither, they pick each other
Team Dextro
@@YoungMrBlue I found that out on my 6th playthrough and I was like "Oh, I see..." lol
29:30 "The best" was the last line Mark Meer recorded as Shepard
It’s like Mark knew that it was the last time he’d be Shepard
Unless you count: "Well bang, ok?"
That picture of Tali's face was updated for the Legendary edition. A big improvement I would say.
I still feel like they should have kept that a mystery
@@robchuk4136 It's a nice reward for those that romance her. If you never do, the mystery is only broken if you look it up.
The updated picture feels more "her" than the Photoshop picture seen here.
I'm one of those weirdos who doesn't mind that fact that Tali 'looks' like the original photo, even as I am perfectly ok saying the photoshop pic we got was garbage. The LE photo was nice, but it didn't show us anything about Tali's appearance that we couldn't guess was under the face mask, and didn't even remove the hood. All it did was remove the smoke behind her visor.
@predatoryzzx I know why people keep saying that but I have to disagree - it was not an improvement. In my opinion it was actually a huge downgrade.
The reason why the original picture sparked such a controversy back in the day was never about the picture itself.
It was all about Bioware using a stock photo instead of one taken specifically for ME3. And that reasoning makes no sense to me - I don't care if it was a stock photo or not. And the devs definetly didn't do Tali dirty with the picture they chose - Hammasa Kohistani is a very beautiful woman.
Given the reason for most of the protests I wonder what would have happened if Bioware had simply hired Kohistani to take another picture for the game and then used that. If people would've stopped protesting because it wouldn't have been a stock photo anymore...that would have been really dumb.
Aaaaaagh. Why do most of these romance compilations always skip the amazing “I love you,” right before you fight the Reaper on Rannoch? I know it’s a short scene, but it’s definitely one of my favorites in this route.
Oh well, still enjoyed the video. Can’t wait to see what’s next!
33:24 It's why I was so drawn to Tali, too. She was always genuine, kind to all races, except for the Geth, but was still able to be honest about how wrong she was about that, clearly not as single-minded and rigid like the other quarians in their council... so i don't keep rambling on, basically, she's a very empathic and level-headed person, which are the people I usually admire and like being around. Due to her character, I just know she became a wonderful admiral
Geth aren't a race.
I used to be like Tali, I used to be very hopeful and romantic, but the world has beaten it out of me. Now I have no hope at all, but still there is a little glimmer of the romantic in me, cuz I still love romance stuff like this between Tali and Shepherd, pure romance without messy and/or toxic drama.
I'm still very hopeful and romantic, despite the world doing all that to me and a bit more for good measure. I guess it's because I'm so much of a pessimist that when shit hits the fan I can still see a light to reach for, because that wasn't in my bleak predictions. This allows me to always be hopeful and optimistic, no matter how pitch black the situation is. And I seem to have a subscription on pitch black situations, like experiencing war, death, political warfare, psychological bullying, mental disorders, fatherhood, bureaucracy and so forth.
Tali that's a straw... "Induction port!" was definitely one the bits in my original playthrough I really considered the Tali romance next time around
emergency induction porttttttttt
Tali was my romance partner in my paragon playthrough of Shep and to this day, the scene with them in apartment, watching her favorite movie and her singing with absolutely her whole heart still puts tears in my eyes....such a beautiful romance!
Tali is my girl! ❤ I romanced Ashley in ME1 and was HUGELY disappointed in how she reacted to Shepard being alive in ME2. Tali was so happy to see Shepard alive and reacted more in the way I had expected Ashley to react. She was always in my squad from then on. Love Tali! Keelah Sali❤
Ashley makes sense why she react that way she is dealing with her own beleifs and that effects her reaction to people like cerberus and terra firma
Kaidan is only upset be ause cerberus is against the allience
Ashleys upset that cerberus is the exstreme end of her family and her own early beleifs their a reflection of what she could became if she let herself go too deep if she lets her families shame get too corupted in her self
I really like Ashley, I think she's a great character; like Miranda, she has layers that are so rewarding to peel back.
I really really really wish ME LE would've built on ME and made it better, rather than simply breaking combat in ME1. If, instead of making ME1's combat worse, they'd've focused their efforts on improving some things, I think they could've made a game that even people who still had original edition ME would've gone out and bought.
There are several elements I'd've loved to have seen addressed, but the big one that's relevant to this video/your comment: I hate how partitioned off your romance is between 1, 2, and 3. If you romance Ashley or Kaiden, you don't see them at all in 2 except for one very short, strangely hostile, meeting. Then, you're reunited in 3... for about 15 minutes, then they spend the rest of the game in the hospital.
OR if you romance anybody in ME2, you don't see them again in ME3; no Miranda (the best romance), nor Jack... not Thane, whom I guess some people romance? (I don't get it, but whatever.) Or Jacob, whom I assume nobody romances, but still.
They *really* should've added some content, say in ME2 you reach out to Ashley/Kaiden if you romanced them (or Liara?), but they don't respond. But then when you meet Ash/Kaiden, they say something like "I got your email, I couldn't believe it was you... I didn't respond because I couldn't be sure but also security protocols forbid it..." and then have a meeting that's much more "wary" than "hostile". Have them say something like "how can you work for Cerberus" and you of course respond "I'm not, I'm just using their resources; I'm using them in pursuit of my goals, and once I'm done using them I'm not returning their ship, their AI, their people..." something like that. And Ash/Kaiden can say maybe still be wary "I'm not sure I'd even trust them that far; how can you know *they* aren't using *you*?"
So, you know... not exactly a satisfying reunion, but much less annoying than it was in OE ME.
Then maybe have some interaction after that? I assume Ash/Kaiden isn't in ME2 because it's a "suicide mission", but holy fuck it's SO EASY to save everybody (outside of the bullshit bug that makes it so damn hard to resolve the Miranda/Jack conflict, that's some bullshit); they couldn't have had *some* sort of interaction outside of... whatever that place was called?
AND THEN... I'm sure it would've been a ton of work, but you go from 6 squadmates in ME1 to 12 in ME2... then back to 6 in ME3?!? Miranda and Jack should've been squadmates in ME3, it's insane that they aren't. I love Miranda, pretty easily my favorite romance in the ME trilogy, so I'm pretty biased here, but it's wild that she's on the run from Cerberus and not, you know... with you. As soon as you meet, she should just join your squad: you're actively fighting Cerberus - more than the Reapers! (another thing I'd've loved to have seen fixed in ME3 LE, although I get that that would've required essentially re-making the entire game from the ground up) - so how is "by my side" not the safest place for her to be? And Jack working at Grissom Academy... I mean, that maybe makes sense for her *eventually*, but 6 months after ME2? No goddamn way she goes from who she is in ME2 to suddenly being a nurturing, patient teacher in ME3. She needs way more time to get over her own trauma; maybe have her at Grissom Academy, not as a teacher but just being around fellow Biotics, maybe even talking to somebody there... and then when you show up, she joins you.
Whenever I play through the ME trilogy, I always hit a wall with ME3... there's some good stuff there, ME3 does some things better than ME1 and ME2 (the segmented health bars is inspired, the way weapon weight works is great, I like that better than ME1 or ME2's approach to weapons - they're all good in their own way, but I think ME3's is best) but your squad is so crazy small. (And again, spending so much time fighting Cerberus is so dumb to me. Especially since I didn't give them the Reaper base at the end of ME2; if they got it, then I could see why they'd be so formidable. But... they didn't.)
Ashley was elated Shepard was alive. She only had a change of mood when she found out Shepard was seemingly working with an evil group of madmen.
Imagine you fell in love with someone while both of you worked for a group dedicated to freedom and human progress, shared every intimate detail about yourself, and then they seemingly died.
Then, two years later, from out of nowhere and with no notice, they showed back up. Only now, they were working with the Nazis.
That's what Ashley experienced. Her reaction was understandable and the game tied our hands with how we could react.
I’m kind of disappointed with everyone’s reaction to Shepard being alive as they act like they haven’t seen each other for a while and doesn’t acknowledge the fact that they was dead for 2 years
A funny thing I noticed in ME2 in the Shadow Broker's dossiers on everyone, in Tali's there's an entry about her downloading, installing and uninstalling a Nerve Stim Pro a couple times.
If you end up telling her you're not interested in a romance, there's an additional record of her reinstalling it shortly after her hearing on the fleet (which is about the time you would turn her down lol).
Oh wow! Very interesting and funny lol
There's some great dialogue in the loyalty mission. it's the same with FemShep, but it has extra meaning if there's a romance.
Shepard: "About what your father said, what he did... you deserve better."
Tali: "I got better, Shepard. I got you."
There’s no romance until after the loyalty mission so it’s more of potential foreshadowing
@@axelnilsson5124 if you want to get technical about it, Kelly says that Tali is interested in Shepard as soon as she comes on the ship, so one could argue the romance starts immediately
@@TheGIJew. but you still have to do her loyalty mission in order to romance her or else how would she have gotten the fever?
@@TheGIJew. Also Kasumi mentions it when talking to her on the Normandy in the second game.
@@axelnilsson5124 True, but doesn't change the fact that both Kelly and Kasumi mention Tali's interest in MaleShep before the loyalty mission. Which means that on Tali's side there's always a romantic interest no matter if you go with it or not.
I knew you'd like the Tali romance. Unfortunate that the video was pre legendary edition because the new picture is significantly better. Can't wait for more, and for the ME4 trailer reaction especially.
For me, Tali’s romance is arguably the best. The simplest and the sweetest. And it benefits from being a part of all 3 games, as she grows from a girl on the run to an admiral. Miranda is my canon romance. Like Jack, she has a tough exterior you have to get through. Liara is most people’s canon romance, but she is distant to everyone in ME2. Tali is Tali throughout. No games or obfuscation.
Tali is so sweet, it’s funny how awkward she is in this video!
Ah to be a Talimancer. If only people in real life were capable of this kind of love. Jokes aside, that "I have a home" is what always sets me off emotionally for the ending, that hard hit that keeps going until the end credits, lol.
"If only people in real life were capable of this kind of love."
Some of us are. We just get ignored.
I'm so glad to have seen a video about Mass Effect from you again :) Tali is my absolute favorite romance!
I originally picked Tali as a teenager partly cause she wasn't the obvious fan-service pick for a romance option, and partly cause of the intrigue I had for her and her people. And my choice was rewarded with the most genuine and (I think) realistic romantic relationship portrayed in any video games I had played until then. Loved looking back on that through fresh eyes.
And now fans have made her fan service
@@axelnilsson5124 those hips. 😘
Agreed, she accepts you for you, flaws and all. I still havent given up finding someone like her in real life, despite how crappy the world is right now.
My favorite is when you give up on Ashley after Horizon in ME2 then start up with Tali. If you bring Ash along on the Geth Dreadnought mission, those two get a little spicy to each other.
They do no matter who you bring, in my experience.
@@RazorStormInc I'm not sure what you're saying. That Tali will get saucy with everyone you bring, or that Ash and Tali snipe at each other in other places too?
It can't be the first, but I don't know when else Ash and Tali would interact except on other missions. I don't remember seeing it on other missions, but I can't say for sure I paired the two of them up anywhere else.
@@christianwalters2047 No, on the Geth Dreadnought; Shepard and Tali will flirt no matter who else is in the party.
I also miss the Mass Effect Playthrough, thanks for this very nice treat.
24:30 It's funny that Mark Meer (male Shepard voice actor) also voiced the Vorchas in ME.
Have not really watched one of your vids since Mass Effect 3 ending because I plan on playing most of the games you've been playing since and didn't want any spoilers but I'm glad to be back and see more Mass Effect content! The Tali romance is for sure my favorite in all of Mass Effect and I'm happy to see you finally get to experience it if in video form only. Love all your videos and I definitely have to catch up! I'm looking forward to watching your Heavy Rain playthrough soon since I have actually played that one! Can't wait to hear what you have to say about it.
I always wanted to see a full episode of F. And F. Tail talks about it as well as every NPC. COME ON! I'm dying to watch.
Why does the music in this game, no matter how many playthroughs I've done, always HITS!
No matter how tired or stressed I am, the ME1 menu theme always chills me out. Phenomenal soundtrack throughout.
I'm so happy to see this video, i loved your playthrough of ME
"I never thought you'd see past... this..." that crushes me every damn time
22:30 some people didn't like this for some reason, because it was a modified stock photo. So in the Legendary Edition they used a brand new picture.
I think a lot of people thought it was low-effort. A photoshop job that would've taken 10-or-so minutes.
@@elise3455 And?
Why put in 2 hours of work when 20 minutes gets the job done?
It's called efficiency.
It was a mixture of the reception of the ending and overall downgrade most people saw ME3.
One of those dog pile issues.
Personally I'm not a fan of either as I feel it's too "human". Even femshep got alien romances that look alien, where Broshep gets human look alike across the board.
I think had ME3 not had the rushed development, it would have been a small blemish that most would have ignored after the first week.
Her "I have a home, come back to me." Breaks me everytime. I have tried every play through to have a different romance, but I always go back to Tali.... Every.single.time 💔
As someone who has experienced all romances (even Jacob😖), I just wanna say that I would commit mortal sins and galactic atrocities for that Quarian. And another definitely worth seeing, Jack's is surprisingly wholesome and heart warming by the end
I don't know if you cut this out or if it wasn't in the video - but there are actually a few lines from Kelly that are also a part of the romance (and most other romances as well). Mordin of course also makes a comment in ME2 (with slight variants for the different romance options - the funniest line from Mordin is probably FemShep/Garrus).
22:38 This picture sparked a bit of a controversy back in the day (a sentiment I don't really agree with - I think it is a beautiful picture).
The problem was that this is actually a stock photo, not one made specifically for the game. The other characters are modelled after people who where specifically hired for that purpose, but with Tali Bioware simply took a stock photo of British model Hammasa Kohistani (Miss England 2005), modified it slightly and used it as Tali's face. Many fans were angered by that because they felt Tali was somehow let down by not hiring an actress or model for a face scan even though Kohistani is a very beautiful woman and Tali was definetly not let down in that regard.
Personally I think the people where overreacting - I always liked the picture despite its origin as a stock photo. In the legendary edition Bioware replaced the picture with a new one. Many people liked that, personally I liked the old photo way more.
You're right about Jack. She was supposed to be romance option for both Shepards, but it was cut due to fear of backlash from certain group of people :/
You could maybe react to "Jealous Liara all romances" vids (from the Shadowbroker DLC). It's very short but funny.
Yeah, Fox News can go to hell. Btw if you're on PC there are a few same sex romance mods on Nexusmods.
Not everyone is gay. Being taken advantage of and tricked into bed by a lesbien happens to more straight women than you'd care to admit. That's all her story was, a story depicting how Jack was always taken advantage of.
They changed Lliara a lot between 1 & 2. She started out similar to Tali, but changed over time. Tali's is the sweetest out of all of them in my opinion.
That is the "stock" picture they lisenced and edited abit from the game version he play . The newest game version has another picture you get :)
You're so spot on with what you said about how full of love Tali is. She and Garrus always felt to me like they were the best-written companions (maybe has something to do with the fact that they're on the crew from start to finish?)... no matter which background I pick, which gender or which romance option I'm pursuing, those two are my unshakeable Dextro-Amino family.
My favorite romance hands down!
Muito lindo el video kali bonita como siempre te agradece muchisimo que nos traigas el mejor contenido a esta hermosa familia y disfrutar de un buen rato epico y reir Ragnarok puede esperar no den ningun spoilers gente saludos Kali cuidate mucho 😉✌
TO be fair! By the end of the romanctic arc with Tali, she tells Shepard that her body has grown used to being around him. I.E. she no longer has any negative effects outside of the suit with him. It's just before they launch their final assault against Cerberus. Tali in my opinion, is the most fulfilling of all the romantic choices. Out of all the choices, you can feel how deeply she cares for him. I especially love the scene in ME2 when Chambers says "I have the feeling she wants to be more than just good friends...."
"What makes you say that?"
"It's in her body language, how she turns to you when you enter a room..and how she watches your every move"
Also I'm not sure if you're aware of this. But there is an ending to the game, where Shepard can survive the ignition of the Catalyst. It still costs the survival of the Geth, but Shepard could have in theory returned to Tali. I'd like to think he does.
Just found your channel! I'm loving the GoW playthroughs, sidenote Jack is my absolute favorite romance in ME, especially with what happens in the Citadel DLC with it.
Ah yes, my canon romance.
Romanced Liara on my ME1 blind run. But never looked back after I chose Tali in the second game😆
Jeez.. i always get so envious whenever i watch romance like this.. really wish this could be a reality. Finding someone to love this genuine
right!? tali is so full of love.. it's hard to find people like this now
The trailer reactions is going to be phenomenal
Tali is just the absolute best. Glad you’re doing these. Think you’ll love Garrus & Jack as well.
My fav parts of this beautiful romance also include snuggles with Tali in ME2 when you use the com to invite her up and the Casino date night with Tali in Citadel. I’ve emailed you clips of these from my playthrough. Also, I’m interested to know if folks prefer the original photoshop of Miss England winner, model Hammasa Kohistani (shown here) to create her face or the revised photo in LE.
I still haven’t figured out how to do that
@@YoungMrBlue eventually in ME2 an “Invite Tali up” icon appears to the right of the private terminal in your cabin. I only first noticed this at the end, after returning through the Omega 4 relay. Am guessing the same option appears there for other love interests too…?
@@kendallcarlsson I checked the com on my last playthrough, it didn’t pop up
@@YoungMrBlue I wonder if this is just on LE. Also, it’s a pity there didn’t seem an option to invite your romance option up in ME3 apart from the scripted scenes.
You know, you CAN experience a FemShep-Miranda/Jack/Tali romance with mods. You can also experience a pretty authentic FemShep-Ashley romance in Mass Effect 1 with mods since that was originally supposed to be an official option before it was decided to be removed due to societal differences in the early 2000s.
Heck, with mods you can romance everyone at the same time lol
EDIT
Here's the nexus link to the "Same-Gender Romances" mod for LE2, which includes FemShep-Tali. Ones for LE1 and LE3 exist as well.
ME2 was my intro into the amazing world of Mass Effect. While i didnt romance any in my first playthrough (rushed it bad. Killed almost my whole squad)
I believe it was my second one (when i took my time) i found out tali was romancable and she was easily the best pick.
Her personality. And just how genuine she is always spoke to me.
Even now so many years later. Tali is on the top of my list when it comes to media crushes.
There was a different picture of Tali in the cabin only showing her without her front mask...
This picture here in the Legendary Edition was changed to what you see now... An improvement for sure
I am always willing to watch any Tali content that comes my way even after so many years. Love her very much
💜💜💜
19:45 Whoever said that wanted you to simulate yourself as a soldier as in "stop thinking like a civilian" which is who you are. They were literally telling you to immerse yourself as a veteran soldier who can put aside their personal feelings for moments like these. Which I imagine real soldier can do due to their training hence why the devs decided to do this scene like this. It's really immersive and gets you to understand how real soldiers minds work and process loss but we aren't real soldiers and thus can't do this in real life let alone simulate it in a game.
Tali is the good girl you want to take home to mother. Nerdy girls have always been the cutest.
Both Tali and Garrus love Shepard regardless if it's friendship or romance.
I do think there was some executive meddling involved in the lack of same-sex romance options in Mass Effect 1 and 2, which thankfully seemed to have been avoided in Mass Effect 3.
Tali is one of those few game characters I legit fell In love with.
19:08
have you watched a video on more conversations with legion in me2? it provides some insight to what his thoughts on memorials. it might take a couple watch throughs
Yt, as always didn't remind me you upload a video, but anyways, it was a pretty sweet video, Tali's personality is pretty cute, but what I find more interesting is everytime you talk to her is there that chemistry we usually experience in love ❤
Her romance arc is even better in Mass Effect 3 if you include the Tali Romance Mod. You finally get to see her face (one that isn't a hastily Photoshopped stock picture of Miss UK 2005, Hammasa Kohistani), it includes a well-deserved love scene, there are some post-love scene emails from her, and a new bedside photo of her.
I do like Ashley's romance arc too. Mainly because I like tomboys haha.
I still feel like Liara is my canon romance, but of all the other romance options, I think Tali is the only one who "resonates" with Shepard. When he walks in, she is focused on him, and her romantic love for him pulls out a side of his character that a Liara/Ashley/Miranda romance doesn't. The Jack romance arc also feels unique, but I'll wait for your reaction to that.
The Geth survived your playthrough legion sacrificed himself
wow epic I am excited, I also had a romance with Tali in one of my playthroughs... although in other playthroughs there were more shocking moments with Tali that happen when you don't achieve peace between Geth and Quarians in ME3.. Will you watch that too, Kali? ✨ .. seeing Talis face is epic
Thank you posting your reaction. Have you reacted to the Garrus Romance?
Not yet!
Kali if you chose the destroy ending the geth likely survived there's many things making it seem like that one of them being the geth who up loaded into quarian suites which might have shielded them from what happens.
4:15 "Flustered Tali is the cutest Tali. ..."
Yes, she's the sweetest, has cute insecurities, is fun, romantic, tells you always the truth, and has a great character development. How can one not love her. ♥
(written perfectly by Patrick Weekes and voiced perfectly by Ash Sroka)
8:10 There's a certain suit application "Nerve-Stim Pro" you've read about on the ShadowBroker ship's dossier terminal.
And in a special story path based on your decisions and a companion choice in a certain mission Liara will talk about it during the mission. (see czcams.com/video/eNxHOxnRmao/video.html) 😅
24:30 "You sound like a Vorcha." A little inside joke, because Mark Meer (male Shep) also voiced all the Vorcha.
30:03 "... the music will always get me." 😊 Me too. The music (throughout the game) is exceptionally well done. When you know the whole story just hearing a few notes are enough to bring a scene or everything right back.
BTW: If you're interested in all companion reactions to Shepard's relationship between Tali and Shepard (czcams.com/video/QyEtDhyo9D0/video.html) in the Geth Dreadnought mission. 😉
I feel like I do remember reading about the Nerve-Stim Pro! I just didn't put 2 and 2 together until this reaction to the Tali Romance lol.
And thank you for the links! I'll check them out
Now onto all the other ones. 😁🙌
Tali is my favorite romance option because she stays with Shepard through out the trilogy just like Garrus kinda wish all the other squadmate romance did that also there’s a mode for romance Tali as female Shepard but male Shepard is better
I actually see squad mates questioning and challenging Shepards allegiances and choices a strength. Means they aren’t just yes men and women. People challenging you is what pushes you to grow. That’s one big reason I was kind of meh on Liara. She just went along with whatever you said regardless.
Yay tali vas Normandy 🥹❤️ she’s a beautiful one 🥰
tali and samara are my favorite characters in the ME trilogy. i adore them :3
There are a LOT of interactions unique to a Tali romance that the video skipped over.
As I am watching this and typing at the same time. Be nice if you could fit in a mass effect 3, traynor romance reaction sometime in the future. I played it once as femshep purely to romance her. Well a guy has to do what a guy has to do to get the girl of his dreams 😊
Ooooo how did I forget about Traynor! I'll put it on the list 💚
The cutest thing is that Tali like Garrus when trying to be cool are dorky but when they dorky they end uo being cool.
"Still totally worth it."- Almost trips over her damn feet staring back as she tries to be seductive.
Meanwhile just dancing at the party and the hottest thing there.
I might be in the minority on this, but I like the way Tali looks in the photo you saw for your reaction. A lot of Mass Effect fans don't like it because it's a photoshopped photo of a real-life model instead of a piece of art that was made from scratch, but I think it looks great. Besides... Male Shep's default face is based on a real-life model, so why can't the same be true for Tali?
24:31 I have to think that this must have been an inside joke for Male Shep. Mark Meer (the voice of Male Shep) also voiced the Vorcha characters.
I didn't see any issue with the photo either! I think both are beautiful and interesting. Maybe just leaving it up to the viewer's imagination would have been better for BioWare tho lol
Ah, a Kali video that I can comment on! I am sure your God of War videos are great as well, but since I haven't played the series and don't want to get spoiled... I am sure you understand. As for Hellblade, I am in the process of playing that myself right now and might come back to your videos after I'm done.
Anyway, finally back with observations! :)
You hit the point pretty early on, Tali is just too sweet and cute to pass up XD
However, you also stated (I think correctly) that Tali loves either gender Shepard equally. For femshep it's simply as a little sister instead of a lover.
We get to know her as sometimes awkward, easily flustered, a tad naive, and lacking self-confidence. However, she grows quite a bit over the course of the games. From the beginning, she is also capable, passionate, selfless and fiercely loyal and those traits she never loses.
Some people have a problem with either the age difference or the difference in status (or both) between Tali and Shepard. Those are viable concerns, but I think the writers did a good job to alleviate them. Without careful writing, it could have been a case of "celebrity taking advantage of a star-struck young woman". However, that is not the case. One thing why it works is Shepard's tenderness and restraint towards her, letting her make the decisions to move the relationship forward. Along with that, Tali grows from hero-worship into an equal partner, also giving Shepard confidence and support, not only the other way round.
As for the age difference, Tali is seven years younger than Shepard. I think this comes down to your personal feelings about age gaps. For me it's quite simple: They are both adults and still on the right side of where the age gap becomes uncomfortable. Of course, this is all under the assumption that Quarian aging is comparable to human aging. Which I will assume because of the lack of evdidence to the contrary. Also, Jack is the same age as Tali and I have never seen anyone complain about the age difference there. Wonder why...
Anyway, great to have you back in the Mass Effect universe and looking forward to the Miranda and Jack reactions, two different beasts entirely XD
PS: There are mods for same gender romances for most characters. Both Miranda and Jack have mods that span ME2 and 3, but unfortunately for Tali, there is only a mod for ME2 (so far...).
PPS: Others have already mentioned it, but Tali's photo in this is form the original ME3 and is a lazily edited stock photo. In the LE, Tali gets her "own" face. Arguably, it's a less "beautiful", but that is a good point as well. Shepard does not fall in love with her due to her looks, after all.
It's awesome to get another comment from you!
I see why Tali is a number one pick for a lot of Mass Effect lovers 💜 she is so sweet and you just feel the love eminating from her no matter if you're in a romance or not! Her love for Shepard is so deep.
And darn! I wish this video included the new photo!!
Good to see you again and I look forward to the next one!
Id love to see your reactions to the Garrus and thane romances as well ❤️
This is the first playthrough I've seen in ages where someone used the stock Shepard and didn't go crazy with customization.
It's kind of refreshing because I've never seen a custom male Shepard look better than the one the game designers created. I get the appeal for some people though who want to make their character different.
There is something I wanted to say regarding the Tali Romance. 😄One of my favorite reactions to Shepard and Tali flirting each other is Kaidan's reaction. Also I love Garrus' reaction. :D
Garrus: Uh...I've been here when you two had your thing, remember? Just get a room and...work it out.
Kaidan: Uh...If you like, I can get you two some privacy...
32:33 this is why a high war asset destroy is an absolute must. The Geth can always be rebuilt, but not Tali's home.
No they can’t as they were destroyed not deactivated and the quarians more than likely destroyed the geth blueprints after their exile and at this point it’s debatable if Shepard survived or not because it’s been over a decade since ME3 came out and they still haven’t continued Shepards story and after everything Shepard went through before that moment that breath is likely just a brief return from the afterlife and will return there momentarily
Miranda and Jack are good romances but because they aren't squad in ME3 it's less satisfying. Tali and Garrus are possibly the best romances because they are the only ones with OG squad members that carry through as squadmates through all 3 games and they have best continuity. Even though you can romance Liara in ME2 it's not really the same, IMO.
I also love Kasumi's comment if you romance Tali. She'll say that Tali is so cute and Shepard is all she talks about in that "rainbows and butterflies" kind of way
I would love to see how you feel about some of the other secondary romances: Thane, Samara and so on...
I'll keep this in mind! 💚
@kaliwali
Thanks Kali: I must admit, seeing you react to this brought back that irresistible Mass Effect scratch I got watching your playthrough, especially when you brought your choices and feelings into the discussion (e.g feeling bad about the Quarian's future after your initial Destroy pick, debating whether you'd change it).
You're an amazing content creator and I hope your day goes well! ✨️
@Kali if you ever do another playthrough I highly recommend you use mods there's hundreds across the trilogy that are great! Look for a video by 'Synth' called
'I improved legendary edition with 221 mods'
as male it is hard to not go with tali, she is the best imo, as a femshepard ive gone with liara the most of the times
19:50 I never got the same feeling about Shep & Tali's conversation right after Legion died, but now that you mention it, it makes sense. I'll definitely be looking at this scene differently the next time I play it.
There was a moment from Priority: Cerberus Headquarters that wasn't included. When Shep is watching the Project Lazarus videos and says they don't know if they're really Shepard or just a high tech VI, Tali replies, "You are real. Real, and MINE!"
Also, someone made a fan trailer for Fleet and Flotilla. It's really well done: czcams.com/video/7CVs_VmB5eI/video.htmlsi=TCv-AR-COtBDdamr
Oh noooo. I didn't mean to ruin this scene for you. I think Legion was just my #1 character and his death was so unexpected that it shook me too much 🥹🤧
@@kaliwali Oh, you didn't. It does add additional context, though.
Please do Garrus! He is the equivalent to Female Shep that Tali is to Male shep.
Ooo great recommendation!
I love Mordin’s reaction to the romance
Shepherd really is a one of a kind protagonist. Honestly it's really scary to think of the burden that's on his/her shoulders. In one hand you really want to be Shepherd, on the other hand it's really overwhelming.
That's why everyone can relate to the character, because everyone is allowed to be their own Shepherd.
I believe that's why there is not one perfect ending, otherwise everyone would just pick that one.
In the end your journey gives you your own perspective on what your ending should be, that's why there is no right or wrong decision.
There are not a lot of games that does that.😊
The Changed the photo for Legendary edition , also time for a new play through then, For the Geth
The best romance period
Mr and Mrs Vas Normandy 🥰🥰🥰
Too bad it only lasted a year
Jack originally was going to be romanceable by both genders but cause someone at a news outlet called the game a sex sim for all the romance options the company panicked and removed that.
Also if you play on PC and mod it you can romance any of them as the same gender and some even have well done voice dialogue that fits too just for if you ever play it again.
Tali 😍
The original Tali's picture is pretty weird... Lukily they changed it in the legendary edition! 😆
I didn't even realize until I saw everyone's comments! The newer one is much better!
@@kaliwali Yep, it look like more, well... like Tali 🥰
if you do the extra missions geth show up saying they will forever remember him
"Emergency Induction Port"
"that's a 'straw' Tali"
I hope you react to the Garrus romance, either your own play through or watching another. it's SO good. There are moments Jennifer Hale got so emotional she had a hard time staying in character, and you can hear the tremble in her voice.
I plan to do a Garrus, Miranda, Thane & Samara reaction! I've really enjoyed diving deeper into the ME romances 💚
Ya'know in all my playthroughs I've never once romanced tali ever, but as a pure renegade player I've always thought about romancing her, then siding with legion and the geth, just to see the betrayal of her in ME3...
And her reaction therein.
Bioware used image of Hammasa Kohistani - Miss England 2005 36:30
Fun Fact, she was original supposed to be romancable by both Shepards, but it was later scrapped
Totally worth it!
Almost missed this, I've been wanting you to react to tali's romance for awhile. Your thoughts on the synthesis ending and why you wouldn't choose it make sense but Tali is always why I choose the synthesis ending. I don't think it makes it any more justified but Tali definitely makes it hard to want to destroy all synthetics after telling you how Rannoch is going and then her distress when you leave her on Earth.
Love how much extra depth you can get out of this series and looking forward to Miranda's video.
Tali & Garrus are such perfect romance options for male & female Shepherd that I almost wonder why they bothered including any of the others! 😂