Kurt Vonnegut on the Shapes of Stories

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  • Short lecture by Kurt Vonnegut on the 'simple shapes of stories.'

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  • @Shockeye00
    @Shockeye00 Před 8 lety +532

    Such a wonderful dry humor. He is one of my all time favorites. "Goddamnit!"

  • @melchiorvulpius8170
    @melchiorvulpius8170 Před 8 lety +935

    This is really cool. It's like a cross between a college lecture and a stand-up comedy routine!

    • @garfocusalternate
      @garfocusalternate Před 8 lety +93

      +Jeff Weskamp What every college lecture ought to be, really.

    • @pravinda333
      @pravinda333 Před 7 lety +8

      Well, sometimes the roles are reversed.

    • @AAmoroso
      @AAmoroso Před 2 lety +3

      look up the video where he's older and it has spanish ("castellano") subtitles. he includes a shakespearean story "arch".

    • @-RandomBiz-
      @-RandomBiz- Před 2 lety +1

      This story and the story of Hamlet can be found in his book a man without a country.

    • @jacobkennedy1009
      @jacobkennedy1009 Před rokem +2

      Fun is our brains favourite way to learn 😁👍

  • @Tujdosen
    @Tujdosen Před 13 lety +92

    "Off-scale happiness" sounds a lot better than "lives happily ever after"

  • @ghwalsh90
    @ghwalsh90 Před 11 lety +109

    Kurt Vonnegut was a true artist with an unrivaled literary voice. This man lived an incredible life, one that will forever be immortalized in his many short stories, novels, and essays. The day after Kurt Vonnegut passed in 2007, I was set to give a presentation on Vonnegut's life and works in my high school english class. It crushed me to have to add "and so it goes" to the end of the presentation.
    This is one of my favorite of Vonnegut's speeches, wish I could have seen him speak in person!

    • @drelouch544
      @drelouch544 Před rokem +5

      Reading "and so it goes" just sent a shiver down my body
      🥲

    • @st.charlesstreet9876
      @st.charlesstreet9876 Před 9 měsíci

      Totally Agree! One of the Best literary voices around. Thank You Kurt Vonnegut ❤

    • @Bobbieliz
      @Bobbieliz Před 8 měsíci +3

      I did in circa 1980 at the U of Iowa. It was forever memorable.

    • @ANDROLOMA
      @ANDROLOMA Před 3 měsíci

      And so it went.

  • @thatoneguy8525
    @thatoneguy8525 Před 7 lety +172

    "Everything was beautiful and nothing hurt"

  • @esceotiti
    @esceotiti Před 2 lety +90

    I was fortunate enough to attend one of his speaking engagements. I can’t imagine his take on these dark times… he is sorely missed.

    • @gospelofrye6881
      @gospelofrye6881 Před rokem +7

      Whatever his take would have been, it would have ended with: "And so it goes..."

  • @3D6Space
    @3D6Space Před 9 lety +111

    I love "off scale happiness"!!!!

  • @misterhorse8327
    @misterhorse8327 Před 8 lety +40

    The same man who wrote the short story called "The Big Space Fuck."

  • @danielledean8013
    @danielledean8013 Před 11 lety +97

    I started reading Vonnegut when I was 15 and I have to say it introduced me to a huge amount of knowledge. There will never be another like him.

    • @conorwellman8592
      @conorwellman8592 Před rokem +4

      I wonder how he would map out the curve for slaughter house 5

    • @user-xq6uz6sq3f
      @user-xq6uz6sq3f Před 8 měsíci

      @conorwellman8592 I pretty well know how he'd map a curve for one of today's slaughterhouses.

  • @jdweekley
    @jdweekley Před 9 lety +203

    One of the great humorists in American history...
    "What, incidentally, was a pregnant mother of two doing, operating a vacuum cleaner on Mother's Day? She was practically asking for a bullet between the eyes!"

    • @sublimafreud698
      @sublimafreud698 Před 5 lety +5

      Deadeye Dick? Also, now that I'm seeing that quote again, if it's actually the one I think it is, I'm realizing it might be a reference to the way people talk about rape.

    • @grannydems5044
      @grannydems5044 Před 3 lety +4

      Which narrative was this?!

    • @jamesmcinnis208
      @jamesmcinnis208 Před 2 lety +1

      @@sublimafreud698 "actually"

    • @jdweekley
      @jdweekley Před rokem +7

      @skyhouse Well, he was pointing out how that women, even on the day they're supposed to be celebrated, still feel compelled to do housework, and for that, they deserve to be punished. It's a commentary on the unfairness of these kinds of gender roles and the place of women in society. It's classic Vonnegut.

  • @litheq
    @litheq Před 3 lety +38

    01:25 "Somebody gets into trouble - gets out of it again." He just described 'life'.

    • @jamesmcinnis208
      @jamesmcinnis208 Před 2 lety +2

      Not mine. I'm stuck in trouble.

    • @20000dino
      @20000dino Před rokem +1

      @@jamesmcinnis208 I think that's how it actually goes for most of us.

    • @jamesmcinnis208
      @jamesmcinnis208 Před rokem +1

      @@20000dino That's how it goes.

  • @belleyboy
    @belleyboy Před 6 měsíci +1

    The "Oh God Damn It!!" @ 1:59 gets me everytime!

  • @andrewm3210
    @andrewm3210 Před 3 lety +12

    If things had not worked out for Kurt Vonnegut as an author he likely would have had a brilliant career as a standup comedian. His jokes and timing are spot-on. I can imagine growing up watching a cutting-edge but very insightful sitcom called Vonnegut.

  • @kstrehlo
    @kstrehlo Před 13 lety +9

    Elsewhere Vonnegut wrote 8 rules for the short story and ended it by saying that Flannery O'Connor broke all these rules except the first, and that great writers tend to do that. The first rule was "Use the time of a total stranger in such a way that he or she will not feel the time was wasted." Vonnegut's stories always did that, although the dark irony of his stories often had characters near the bottom of the chart from B to E. So it goes.

  • @scriptr1tr
    @scriptr1tr Před 5 lety +21

    I saw this lecture at the University of Kansas in the late 80's.

  • @judymurray6312
    @judymurray6312 Před rokem +10

    Wow! What treasure to have this lecture preserved. I didn't realize he had such a sense of humor.

    • @jasminekeller1904
      @jasminekeller1904 Před 7 měsíci

      His humor is a big part of him! His sense of irony and humor often appear in many of his literature pieces I highly recommend them.

  • @ChicoChavez
    @ChicoChavez Před 3 lety +705

    Can you imagine the horrible state your life must be in when you thumbs-down a 4 minute video of Kurt Vonnegut explaining fiction?

    • @eriontufa
      @eriontufa Před 3 lety +11

      Personally, that is inconceivable.

    • @carriebecker5531
      @carriebecker5531 Před 3 lety +26

      Don't worry, that person is just the main character in that third storyline.

    • @tothelighthouse9843
      @tothelighthouse9843 Před 2 lety +5

      Way way wayyyyyyyyy down on the G/I axis!!! So low that not even Kurt Vonnegut can offer his stairs up.

    • @jamesmcinnis208
      @jamesmcinnis208 Před 2 lety +4

      What I can't imagine is caring if or how many people choose "thumbs-down."

    • @-RandomBiz-
      @-RandomBiz- Před 2 lety +2

      @@jamesmcinnis208 you'll get over it. And if you don't it's no one's problem but yours.

  • @kaykap7
    @kaykap7 Před 9 lety +16

    I just love Kurt Vonnegut,

  • @Uilenstede48
    @Uilenstede48 Před 4 lety +6

    almost word to word similar to his lecture at the Case Western Univ when he's older. But damn … what do I care … if it isn't nice, I don't know what is! Thank you Mr. Vonnegut. You make my day, Sir!

  • @ANDROLOMA
    @ANDROLOMA Před 3 měsíci +1

    Some of his works were brilliant. Short story recommendation is Tomorrow and Tomorrow and Tomorrow. Some hard-core prophecy. And so it goes.

  • @gsco82
    @gsco82 Před 11 lety +11

    Kurt Vonnegut is my favorite author. I'd recommend any of his novels, but Player Piano, and The Sirens of Titan are particularily excellent.

  • @MattWaltherNaught
    @MattWaltherNaught Před 10 lety +177

    "...Oh God dammit."

    • @amirdeen355
      @amirdeen355 Před 2 lety +1

      He literally has better comedic timing than a lot of comedians!

  • @davereynard
    @davereynard Před rokem +8

    I absolutely love this clip - I must have watched it 20 times and it still never fails to make me grin!

  • @bertaga41
    @bertaga41 Před 8 lety +29

    What a guy. So funny and so clever.

  • @Captain_Mckeggor
    @Captain_Mckeggor Před 7 lety +79

    With new data mining techniques years later he was absolutely right we can now see the shapes of stories. :)

  • @CHUCK1213
    @CHUCK1213 Před 11 lety +8

    Thank you so much for putting this up !
    I have read and reread Vonnegut's novels for many many years and have practically memorized his earlier works verbatim. He taught at the Famous Writer's Workshop at the University of Iowa in the same building where I took some writing courses when I was a chemistry student there and when I found that out, I was ecstatic !!! What a brilliant, funny, compassionate man !

    • @jamesburgess6326
      @jamesburgess6326 Před 2 lety

      Want some cool trivia? He worked at GE and knew Langmuir. His brother was a scientist there.

    • @Bobbieliz
      @Bobbieliz Před 8 měsíci +1

      During years I lived in IC 2 times in late 1970’s I found myself across the remainders table in the Book Store in the student Union from a fellow in an old crumpled raincoat and I thought that he looked a lot like Kurt Vonnegut ( my fave author). Then I went to a visiting lecture by him. There he was ! The fellow from the remainder table! He did photograph a bit different from in person. It was a great lecture! I think he must have visited friends from time to time.

  • @thomcomcastrmt173
    @thomcomcastrmt173 Před 8 lety +147

    OH, HE WAS SAYING "BOING BOING" NOT BORING!!

    • @Vitrous
      @Vitrous Před 4 lety +12

      you have achieved off scale awareness

    • @jaxentheidiot
      @jaxentheidiot Před 3 lety +3

      yo man them subtitles say he sayin boring, not boring. just saying my guy.

  • @RBBardy
    @RBBardy Před 11 lety +3

    this is one of my favorite videos

  • @mountainashfarmhospitality5156

    Great writer and humorist. You Tube - our favorite people back in the moment to revisit for eternity. Thank-you computer.

  • @jj27vv
    @jj27vv Před 9 lety +13

    Love it. Have to keep coming back to it. My problem is trying to have all these plots running together - men in a mess.

    • @wentale
      @wentale Před 9 lety

      I wonder if that also fits the "series", pick the critical points to cut off the story so people keep coming back for more and inevitably end up at the happiness bar!

    • @jj27vv
      @jj27vv Před 9 lety

      I wonder if the series is as he has drawn ... all the patterns together as you follow different characters?

  • @rushabhparikh4797
    @rushabhparikh4797 Před 2 lety +1

    The best kind of presentation lecture I've ever seen

  • @doriswhite1348
    @doriswhite1348 Před 9 lety +7

    He is just so incredible. Thanks for posting.

  • @hansombrother1
    @hansombrother1 Před 2 měsíci

    My favorite author ❤❤❤

  • @seanworle
    @seanworle Před 9 lety +86

    Does anybody have more of this lecture, where he goes on to discuss the story curves of Kafka stories, aboriginal legends, and Hamlet? I've read about it, but I'd like to see him giving it, if I could find it.

    • @JordanFrgsn
      @JordanFrgsn Před 5 lety +55

      If anyone is still looking, a longer version has been uploaded here: czcams.com/video/GOGru_4z1Vc/video.html

    • @thc_goon
      @thc_goon Před 5 lety +1

      Jordan Ferguson gracias !!

    • @JordanFrgsn
      @JordanFrgsn Před 5 lety +1

      de nada!

    • @-RandomBiz-
      @-RandomBiz- Před 2 lety +1

      This entire lecture is in his book a man without a country

  • @RobertoSabasArtist
    @RobertoSabasArtist Před 11 lety +3

    A humorous but effective (and useful) illustration and analysis of narrative structure.

  • @chrisphan4566
    @chrisphan4566 Před 7 lety +8

    He's an icon, an inspiration, a teacher of life not only to artists and writers but to everyone, not only Americans but the world.

    • @JesseSargentSoG
      @JesseSargentSoG Před 7 lety

      Thankfully he was an American. *The majority of the rest of the world would have forced him to do something other than what he loved and likely killed him...* _Lovely socialism._ Most of his life's work was also here so most of his teaching was actually American only.

    • @deadstraight3944
      @deadstraight3944 Před 7 lety +2

      funny how he was a socialist and even funnier was how you missed and contorted the original post into your own propaganda

    • @theawesometiger9385
      @theawesometiger9385 Před 7 lety

      ...is that racist? Wow

    • @JesseSargentSoG
      @JesseSargentSoG Před 7 lety

      Deadstraight crazy... are you suggesting that his line of work was for socialism? Maybe you don't realize that what you're saying is that this lecture is a direct result of his wo4k for socialist propaganda then; which makes my comment all the more poignant, and you have justified my words despite your laughter.
      Problem is, the tools of propaganda have another, more well-known description with which you may be familiar, and I challenge you to show that I have used any of them; they are afterall more commonly known as *Logical fallacies.*

    • @418Abdul
      @418Abdul Před 7 lety

      And an astoundingly poignant comment it undoubtedly was.

  • @gusty7153
    @gusty7153 Před 8 měsíci

    my god. the very fundamental structure of narrative is a trope in itself.

  • @aerojockey
    @aerojockey Před 3 měsíci

    Soon as he said, "we're gonna start way down here", I knew what story it was.

  • @62flamenco
    @62flamenco Před rokem +1

    What a genius he was! Brilliant!

  • @dsneddon9
    @dsneddon9 Před 12 lety +4

    great visualization - I love it!

  • @Alkis05
    @Alkis05 Před 2 měsíci

    What a genius lecturer.

  • @k-popprincess416
    @k-popprincess416 Před 2 měsíci

    The way he described the story of Cinderella made me smile!!

  • @melodramacaminante
    @melodramacaminante Před 7 lety +2

    Thanks for uploading it.

  • @Bridg2Peace
    @Bridg2Peace Před 11 lety +1

    I LOVE this man. This was fun and brilliant.... Awesome.

  • @ThatsJustMyBabyDaddy
    @ThatsJustMyBabyDaddy Před 3 lety +4

    Still epic in 2021 ♥️

  • @violaweekend442
    @violaweekend442 Před 5 lety

    what a truly remarkable man

  • @sergeantmaymay4833
    @sergeantmaymay4833 Před 9 lety +13

    This is a fantastic clip. It gives me some new ideas for my subreddit post, and for some new dank may mays. (tips hat in appreciation).

  • @scoldexperiment1554
    @scoldexperiment1554 Před 2 lety

    Man's explaining stuff I wouldn't have understood in the most humorous way possible

  • @evilartstudio
    @evilartstudio Před 12 lety

    Thank you for posting this - he is rad.

  • @MisterF_1984
    @MisterF_1984 Před 7 lety

    this is absolutely fantastic!

  • @shaolinpunkFTW
    @shaolinpunkFTW Před 4 měsíci

    Learned recently he was in the same POW camp as my grandfather... his book Slaughterhouse Five was inspired by that time.

  • @bootblacking
    @bootblacking Před 9 lety +60

    1:58 gets me every time.

    • @djordjeblaga7815
      @djordjeblaga7815 Před 8 lety +2

      +meadslosh me too!
      I think he's ironicly referring to his rule 6. "Be a sadist." :D

    • @CaptCozy
      @CaptCozy Před 8 lety +3

      +meadslosh Me too. I just saw this in my writing class, laughing in the middle of class, and laughed even louder just now.

    • @BillyxRansom
      @BillyxRansom Před 6 lety +1

      "Oh, god dammit"
      Tears every time

    • @therespectedlex9794
      @therespectedlex9794 Před 5 lety

      Should we take him literally? I know we don't have to but...

  • @prans28
    @prans28 Před 3 lety +1

    I could't stop laughing after a really long time. So wonderful!

  • @WillPierce1
    @WillPierce1 Před 5 lety

    Brilliant decomposition.

  • @SigmaChi04
    @SigmaChi04 Před 3 lety

    Great Scott! This is heavy.

  • @Kitsua
    @Kitsua Před 11 lety

    Love the Bach at the end too.

  • @user-im9ht4ym3z
    @user-im9ht4ym3z Před 7 měsíci

    He is at the tope of my favorite authors

  • @markloveless1001
    @markloveless1001 Před 2 lety

    I listened to this for a voice sample, trying to figure out his parts in Ken Burns' The Civil War. I was surprised - I didn't realize he was a Hoosier, and it answered my question. I stayed for the essay, and I'm glad I did.

  • @hugotsunami3850
    @hugotsunami3850 Před 10 lety +5

    Can we get the whole lecture? That would be fantastic

  • @singmysong4444
    @singmysong4444 Před 6 lety

    Brilliant..... yet so simple. Love it!

  • @JessicaJBrodie
    @JessicaJBrodie Před 6 lety

    Love this!

  • @mikethompson7321
    @mikethompson7321 Před 8 lety +2

    Fabulous...

  • @CharlotteIssyvoo
    @CharlotteIssyvoo Před 13 lety +2

    Excellent. Perfect for a first year course on the short story. You know, the unit in which you explain how artificial the traditional Western story structure is.

  • @BrassBoyz1
    @BrassBoyz1 Před 8 lety +10

    slaughter house 5 is one of his best works in my opinion.

    • @fayettevillainJD
      @fayettevillainJD Před 8 lety +13

      +Hunter Brass literally everyone agrees slaughter house 5 is 'one of his best works.'

    • @ritapacheco8059
      @ritapacheco8059 Před 8 lety +4

      +Alan Herrera Mother Night is amazing too! :)

    • @sav1050
      @sav1050 Před 6 lety +2

      Cat's Cradle, Bluebeard, & God Bless You Mr.Rosewater are excellent reads too!

  • @shockinghorrors
    @shockinghorrors Před 7 lety +3

    "Born and raised in Indianapolis, Indiana, Vonnegut attended Cornell University, but dropped out in January 1943 and enlisted in the United States Army. He was deployed to Europe to fight in World War II, and was captured by the Germans during the Battle of the Bulge. He was interned in Dresden and survived the Allied bombing of the city by taking refuge in a meat locker of the slaughterhouse where he was imprisoned."

  • @narrativepodcasts
    @narrativepodcasts Před rokem

    We call it "person in hole" these days for our course, but it's still such a useful way of giving a visual to something abstract.

  • @RoryBramwell
    @RoryBramwell Před 5 lety

    Brilliant!

  • @BlueGuise9
    @BlueGuise9 Před 11 lety

    Wow!
    What a legend!

  • @vincentpendergast2417
    @vincentpendergast2417 Před 6 lety +1

    He would have slayed at a TED Talk

  • @trojanhorse62
    @trojanhorse62 Před 11 lety

    This guy is a boss. Nothing more can be said.

  • @juliagoga-cooke6168
    @juliagoga-cooke6168 Před 10 lety +1

    I love Kurt

  • @alexmathewmendoza
    @alexmathewmendoza Před 11 lety

    an absolute genius. His stories make me laugh, cringe, and more importantly, think.

  • @sudhindrak
    @sudhindrak Před 7 lety +4

    I think it is the reputation of the brilliant man that is driving the thunderous applause for what was otherwise a funny take on story arcs. Any takers for that appraisal?

    • @Lazyguy22
      @Lazyguy22 Před 7 lety

      The one Vonnegut book I've read is Cat's Cradle, which I can't stand. I think this is hilarious.

  • @The_Hofol
    @The_Hofol Před 7 lety

    1:43 onwards. THE BEST REPRESENTATION EVAR.

  • @davidjaslow6458
    @davidjaslow6458 Před 2 lety

    I always loved Kurt's Stories, He was the Best.

  • @fanboydee
    @fanboydee Před 11 lety

    Brilliant.

  • @Saxonation
    @Saxonation Před 13 lety

    Thank you.

  • @plexitox
    @plexitox Před 12 lety

    I agree. "The Road" had some curve to it. Including several shocking spikes downward. Now "Lost in Translation" was an absolute flatliner.

  • @alexcheng0808
    @alexcheng0808 Před 3 lety

    The piece that plays at the end is Variation 1 from Goldberg Variations by Bach.

  • @catherineyang239
    @catherineyang239 Před 6 lety +20

    Then there's Flowers for Algernon

  • @unclepatrick2
    @unclepatrick2 Před 11 lety

    Agree, The Hamlet bit is the best part of skit.

  • @ShutterSnapped
    @ShutterSnapped Před 13 lety +1

    And Cinderella and the Prince achieve off-scale happiness. The End.
    I like the sound of that.

  • @formusicplaylist1
    @formusicplaylist1 Před 11 lety +1

    i've read cats cradle and slaughterhouse 5. i absolutely loved everything about them both.
    what vonnegut should i read next?

  • @DreamseedVR
    @DreamseedVR Před 7 měsíci

    Wow, this video has been wondering what the shape of the story of my life is

  • @nextit91
    @nextit91 Před 10 lety +1

    Genius!

  • @TheNorthernMist
    @TheNorthernMist Před rokem

    Pure genius

  • @Nw7usUs
    @Nw7usUs Před 12 lety

    Great FUN! And, so very true...

  • @steventurnblade9168
    @steventurnblade9168 Před 6 lety

    Interesting illustration.

  • @neilbarembaum1094
    @neilbarembaum1094 Před 5 lety

    So. Most stories can be described by trigonometry. Fascinating.

  • @unclepatrick2
    @unclepatrick2 Před 12 lety

    @GiantPetRat
    yes one of the better writters out there

  • @TheRapidRadish
    @TheRapidRadish Před 5 lety

    This man can draw straight lines

  • @scottdintelman7359
    @scottdintelman7359 Před 4 lety +1

    We call this the Story EKG and use it to analyze stories at work.

  • @k1awdttt
    @k1awdttt Před 13 lety

    Cerealy, we need moar of dis!

  • @hobbedgoblin10
    @hobbedgoblin10 Před 5 lety +1

    My mom’s weird friend introduced me to his books and they’re really good

  • @1jckinnick
    @1jckinnick Před 10 lety

    I like how the first two scales look like AC wave forms too.

  • @paradoxinmotion
    @paradoxinmotion Před 3 lety

    perfection

  • @mervertmoon
    @mervertmoon Před 11 lety

    My personal hero

  • @leo333333able
    @leo333333able Před 7 lety

    fantastic

  • @BradyDale
    @BradyDale Před 12 lety +1

    Ha ha ha... I saw him do this live once and he added another. "Your life sucks and then damn - I'm a giant cockroach!" Curve starts low and just goes lower. Awesome. #kafka.

  • @donaldwhittaker7987
    @donaldwhittaker7987 Před 8 měsíci

    A great writer and thinker. A Christopher Hitchens in another body