Warmachine Lore Primer MK4
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- čas přidán 20. 07. 2024
- I've been playing a bunch of Privateer Press' Warmachine Mk4 recently and there's a whole load of lore, so here's all the background information you need to know, from the gods and dragons up to the latest mk4 factions like Cygnar Storm Legion, Orgoth Sea Raiders, Khador Winter Korps, Dusk House Kallyss, Khymaera Shadowflame Shard, and Brineblood Marauders.
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Music is from the World of Warcraft OST
0:00 Intro
7:06 Gods, Dragons, Mythology
13:40 Recent History
15:50 History from Tabletop Beginning
23:40 Cygnar MK4
34:28 Khador MK4
40:31 Orgoth MK4
48:51 Dusk KM4
54:46 Southern Kriels MK4
1:03:17 Khymaera MK4
1:08:13 Final Thoughts
#warhammer #warmachine #privateerpress #wargaming #warmachinemk4 - Hry
I love how well you covered all that without diving so far into any one thing that you got lost in it.
Thanks! I'll save the deep dives for other videos. I really wanted people to be able to go from nothing to hanging with the lore nerds as quickly as possible!
With the amount of lore this is no easy feat!
Never played this, but have heard a lot of good things, these vids are helpful in deciding whether to invest in this game.
Mk2 was an outstanding game. For me, anyway, far superior to 40k. At the time, AoS was a joke and Fantasy was unsupported (dead). So it was a great opportunity for Privateer to shine. I’m not really sure exactly what happened then... AoS 2nd Ed came out, and it had morphed into an actual game, not just a silly four page rules excuse to buy models. WMH Mk3 happened, and a lot of people seemed to be less than pleased. The local WHM scene simply evaporated, most of the people migrating back to GW, AoS.
It's a great game and well worth playing.
If you have a warmachine community locally. It is worth the time to go out and get a demo and see if it fits.
I played a lot of mk2, it was an amazing time to be a gamer and part of the community. skorne and ret were my factions of choice.
As much as I am not happy with certain things that were done in the past and ret being turned into hot topic cryx. The game itself is worth checking out.
If you like the lore, check out the TTRPG Iron Kingdoms Requiem.
@@malex2200 Agreed! All the different IK books from all the editions have great lore for the world.
Great video. Accessible information on Mk4 is so scarce it's frustrating. The game really needs more content like this
Looking forward to more lore and factions from privateer press. I’ll be keeping an eye out for your battle report.
Great to see more of warmachine content.
Lore stuff in particular
More to come!
Nice!
Just bought Anson Wolfe and a Heavy Warjack. I’ve built metal/resin/ and hard plastic Privateer Press models and these are so high tier. All of the magnets rock and I cannot wait to see what the Protectorate are turned into.
Their magnetisation system was a pleasant surprise - absolute joy, and definitely industry-leading in that respect!
@@kaibe5241 I just built the Orgoth heavy for a change of pace, and I love flails, and it was a dream. All big magnets
@@SuperEagle112 haha yeah :)
Love seeing all these videos about the game. been playing since 2015 though all the ups and downs. Awesome seeing more attention to the game.
So my favorite faction for Warmachine is Khador. Partly because I got into the hobby in Mk2 because "giant robots fights" sparked something in teenage me. As times gone on I have come to very much appreciate how their lore is and how it's presented. On the surface level they are your brutal, nationalistic, bad guy faction, but when you take the time to look deeper and learn about them you learn that Khador is far deeper and nuanced than that, and are actually pretty chill dudes in a lot of ways.
For Hordes the Legion of Everblight is my favorite because firstly "Dragons are cool" and it's a faction based around "What if X but a dragon?" Beyond that the dragon himself Everblight is one of my favorite characters in fiction. He's such a little weasel and I wouldn't trust him with watering my flowers, but he's this confident, incredibly competent badass who has the towing arrogance of his father Toruk, but is this massive coward at the same time. He's Immoren's Starscream leading a Legion of Starscreams and I love it.
Loved this video. Well done bud! I've shared it to my groups discord. Got several new players in the south of the UK who will be interested in your content! Can't wait for your next video! 😊
Awesome work, and a great rundown.
Small points, but Leto is Vinter’s brother not son, and Morrow is an actively good god and the primary deity of Cygnar, whereas Menoth is the progenitor god of many races but is actually lawful neutral, and very fire and brimstone, which is why many humans, particularly in Cygnar, turned from the worship of Menoth to the far more forgiving and lenient Morrow. Also Thamar unilaterally pacted with the Infernals on behalf of all mankind
Also Julius is Vinter's son, not Leto's
Julius dying sucked for me. Through nurture, he was always Magnus' son, as was Stryker. Magnus always had intense dad energy.
Warmachine hasn't been this good ever and I wish you gonna make so much more content for it ^^ Subbed just for that!
Been playing Cryx since MKI so I've seen some stuff ^^
I started with circle and then sold it and got into trollbloods. I do miss circle from time to time as they where gorgeous models but I loved challenging myself with the trollbloods
Love the warmachine content keep it coming.
Awesome content, thanks!
Just what the Doctor Stygius ordered!
Nice work Andy.keep doing what you enjoy! I will stay watching every vid you put out. So please keep putting out!!😂 like the world and the lore the model style isnt gelling for me though and i struggle to het mainstream games in so cant imagine going off the over beaten path.
Can't believe I missed the keep putting out joke until 2 weeks later. My edge is dulling!
you should come to the Welsh masters , you will have an amazing time , it's the best tournament ever . its the end of May 2 day 100pts as casual or competitive as you want .
Is that the one in Southport on the 23rd?
Oh, and more Warmachine content please.
3 part how to play coming "soon"!
Thank You! @@GlassHalfDead
Well, my favourite factions in mk3 are/were trollbloods and mercenary privateers.
So i like the relatively grounded steampunk pirate aesthetic, and more lighthearted "Scottish" trolls.
So it would be no surprise that in mk4 brineblood marauders are hands-down my favourite faction.
Brinebloods are one of those factions that for whatever reason I didn't jive with, but I suspect they would be a playstyle I really like. I have a large trollbloods army, so I'm waiting to see what the next Southern Kriels army will be. I will however pick up the madlad riding a shark, of course!
@@GlassHalfDead i quite like them because they are very antithesis to 40k grimdark. They are generally quite funny, sympathetic and just fun. Which is what i really like. But i can absolutely understand if there are people who might prefer faction that a bit more serious, morally complex and intimidating.
Honestly nothing wrong with that.
Great video! What game is being played in the background during the Cygnar lore?
That is the E3 trailer for Warmachine Tactics.
UNFORTUNATELY after this trailer it was turned into a tactical xcom game. So I just use that trailer because it looks cool af, not because it exists, sadly
Loved it. I admire that even if you made mistakes, you plowed through it all. Super awesome. I salute thee!
circle hello!
I started playing Warmachine in MK2 (really in MK3 but I got my first models in MK2, when I was still a kid). My favorite faction was (and still is) Legion of Everblight. AND I HAVE JUST REALIZED THAT IT’S ATHANC and not Athanac…
I will continue to call it Athanac, as it’s way easier to pronounce.
That's the kind of value this content can bring to your life. Facts and knowledge
I was under the impression the majority religion in Cygnar was Morrowan, and Khador had a strong menite contingent. Thamar the Iron Kingdoms over is more a personal choice
Yes, you are correct. This was one of 2/3 things I got wrong. The hazards of doing it all in one big block and going by vibes from novels I read. A lot of the novels made Khador out to be just kind of really evil, which pushed them towards following the "evil" god. Oopsy
Well done
Great video! Thank you!
Loving the video.
As an aside I do wish there was an easier way to access discontinued factions. I have recently started looking for a hobby to take some of the pressure from magic (wotc's release schedule has gotten to be far too overwhelming for me) and I remembered I enjoyed Warmachine as a spectator. With more free time I thought I might pick it up again but currently the main line factions aren't my cup of tea.
Hopefully the infernals get a second release, I thought they were super cool.
I tried getting into Warmachine a few years ago when my FLGS had a massive discount on some starters. I was very disappointed in the quality of the miniatures. Very poor details and very brittle resin. I’m glad to hear they have released a better product and look forward to seeing if it’s worth the investment.
there were definitely some plastic issues for a stretch, fortunately those days are long past :)
The resin stuff is less than two years in production. Far superior to the old stuff, even with the problems of 3d printed resin
played in mk2 but kinda drifted of when they introduced colossals. a lot of things happened in 2 editions.
In mk2 id say cygnar is USA and khador is russia while menoth are the middle east as the religious oil rich desert nation..
Sorry but got to fix a part of the gods. Cygnar is big on morrow, like state religion big and not as big on Menoth. Thamar is not officially thing anywhere, shes more of a god for self centered people. Menites exist everywhere and the god is more of lawfull neutral/evil. In the sense of worship me or burn.
Anyway, like the videos, keep it coming!
Yeah the part on the gods was quite a bit off. Menoth is a lawful neutral god, though the clergy are dominated by the lawful evil scrutators. His opposite is the Devourer Wurm. Morrow is primarily good, and Thamar's is primarily evil... ish. Mostly selfish, extreme individualism. But by Morrow's decree her writings are bound with his in their holy book, the Enkheiridion. But most importantly, 'Burn the heretics' Menoth isn't a good guy. To most.
Also, Khador is primarily a Menoth worshipping country. Although to be honest, they are Khadoran first, then Menite (except for the odd Morrowan or Thamarite)
Can you do the lore of the various merc models?
Alexia, Eiryss, Greygore and Eilish probably would need a whole video each because they've been in the lore for a long time. Eiryss and Alexia in particular have been central in the story.
I have a lot of cygar, but it was all mkl and mkll. Not sure if any of the stuff is legal. Especialy warcaster wise everyone is probably dead.
Almost everything is legal from Cygnar in unlimited! I believe I mention in my other video that even though they narratively die, they're still useable on the table.
They have 2 slightly more restricted armies for prime play.
I do wonder if Blizzard would have something to say about you using their soundtrack for a Warmachine video lol
Nice 👍
Can someone give me the name of the app please?
@@marcellomaulini7920 I cover the app more in my how to play warmachine part 2 but it's literally just "Warmachine App"
Glass, I’m going to be honest. I’ve got a pile of MK2 models and books. Trollkin, Orborous, Cryx and Cygnar. I love(d) the lore and story. But... I’m just a little bit “once bitten, twice shy” when it comes to Privateer Press.
All still very playable in the new edition.
What bit you?
I was given to understand that while some of the factions are still there, the models don’t really fit the current setting and rules? Certainly the war casters and warlocks are relegated to legacy status?
@@earnestwanderer2471Legacy models are still playable. Except for the Warcasters/Warlocks, almost everything is in the Prime tournament format, and absolutely everything is in the Unlimited casual format.
@@earnestwanderer2471the app is free, if you get the chance and still have the models you may as well give it a go and see if you like it.
Cygnar is America, PoM is Middle East, Khador is Imperial Russia
Ive always considered PoM as crusader knights.
Trolls are native americans
@@TheMousedk the trollbloods are much more Celtic than native American
@@gstellar96 agree
Menoth is where the fun is at.
ah yes the past is dead kill it if you have to of course. no wonder warmachine didnt do well the last 15 years. killing the best characters and factions. and ARMIES
Khador did not worship Thamar....the Old Faith as it was called was worship of Menoth. Also i would t call Morrow "neutral", he is more akin to the "New Testament" catholic god with forgiveness and mercy vs Menoth being the "Old Testament" god of wrath and fire. Thamar was more worshiped by pirates and brigands in Ord. Also to my knowledge, Cygnar primarily worshiped Morrow over Menoth, hence the existence of their Precirsor Knights.
lame to kill off the best characters in the game
Nice vid for us 40K refugees looking for new Game and Lore. I don't like PP being woke, but I guess if I know it at the beginning and they respect their lore and do not constantly retcon it...
The fact the only thing you deem worthy of note is the company's wokeness, I'd probably advise you to work on yourself before looking at tabletop gaming as a hobby. Everyone I've ever met in person is very accepting of all :)
@@GlassHalfDead You misunderstand me. As long as all politics are left out of the Games and Lore I'm cool. Who and what people do in their private lives is their business, just keep it out of the Game and Lore. No one in the rainbow mafia wants to hear me talk about Jesus Christ and me and my kids do not want to hear their views on gender. My comment was more in relation to the current Games Workshop DEI mess. I do not want to invest my time and money in a company that will betray me and their IP over DEI. I'm a tad spicy over the 25 years of my life I spent playing and collecting 40K. Appreciate the Lore video as I look for a new home.
It is pretty crazy. Privateer Press is near Seattle but stays politically centered as a company.
With BlackRock's and Vanguard's acquisition of GW, I guess they decided to make commissars real.
GW sculpts of the female form are so ugly, I would almost think that they have it out for women.
@WarbossSkullKrusha Play the game and have fun.
Half Glass did a good job with the lore, but he is not your dad. We are all adults here and we know that in the world people have cultural differences and all people find some cultural differences offensive.
If you find the current Alphabet club aesthetic ugly and visually offensive. And if GW wants to hang their hat on that aesthetic, you're an adult and you're allowed to feel that way.
GW is in an aesthetic based business so good luck to them.
Privateer Press has a trans game designer who is a math master mind, but the Privateer Press doesn't tokenize her, she's just damn good at her job and she is responsible for the MkIV, Warcaster, Riot Quest and Monsterpocalypse rules. And she isn't obsessed with erasing the female form out of the miniature hobby aesthetic out of, I don't know, revenge at this point?
She is a skill hire not a political hire like you are seeing with GW.
@@GlassHalfDeadyou haven't met enough people.
Your lore video is awesome though.