Prudent Pappy vs the Entire Van Winkle Lineup!
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- čas přidán 22. 08. 2024
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My barrel spiral experiment is going well. I put one in a new bottle of Benchmark Full Proof and a week in it's improving.
That one gets really good if you let it go for months.
Mine was perfect after 2 months. I need to do more experiments to find the perfect aging time, but 2 months is gold.
@@yourdrinkingbuddy I have one I put in the week you aired the video. So 1 Month or so in.
I’m almost 2 months in on 2 bottles of full proof with a spire
Started my $150 batch of Prudent today thanks to this video.
What did you use?!
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@@yourdrinkingbuddy basically your recipe (LSB and MMCS) but I added some Larceny B523 to bump the overall proof up to 107. It's sitting in a jug with 3 spirals and already getting better. Cheers!
@JimF55yr interesting! You will have to let me know how it turns out. I worry 3 spirals could get oaky very quick. Taste it periodically just to make sure it doesn't over oak.
Barrel Spirals are interesting to play with. I actually find USED spirals to preferred. I've had a few real stinker bottles that I bought out of curiousity and I've thrown spirals at them to try and improve the flavor - and it almost always improves bad whiskey.
Using a new spiral in a decent bottle usually causes the bottle to get worse... Enter those spirals I used to enhance a bad bottle. Those spirals actually do a magnificent job of finishing good whiskey. They don't add a ton of harsh oak because the first bottle already sapped the super harsh edges off.
Another way to approach them is to just let them soak in water or a neutral spirit for a week or two. With over 400 bottles I have enough dumb experiments in my head that I always have 1-3 bottles with a spire in them doing something.
Oh.. and toasted spires have been my favorites to work with. They also don't deliver too much char/sour oak immediately. My favorite experiments so far are very similar. Throwing a toasted spire into a bottle of Rum Fire for a week to give it some color and tone down the CRAZY flavors closer to something I can drink and then using that spire to finish a spicy rye (like Old Overhold 114). It creates something truly ungodly to those of weak will... but it makes a crazy good Sazerac.
The other experiment is something most bourbon lovers can enjoy. Toasted Spire into a Bottle of Goslings Black Seal 151 proof rum for two weeks... then throw that spire into... anything. I've tried it in a bottle of Pipe Dream and it was incredible. That one makes for killer Manhattans or a good easy neat pour.
I think that all sounds fun. I have done a little of this. I aged the spirals in Port then used the "ported" spiral into different things.
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Solid video. I am VERY jealous of all the top shelf pours that you got to enjoy today! Cheers!
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Love Prudent Pappy even without the spiral. How long should I keep a spiral in ?
I think it depends on your preference. The packaging recommends two weeks. I would recommend tasting it a couple times over a month, and yank it when you think it is where you like it. I have left them in for months and it does some really cool things.
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I love adding a spiral to experiment with different decent bottles. Don't knock it until you try it
It is awesome how much you can do. It is really cool to have something unique to your home bar.
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This is a really interesting video idea and we love to see it. Also really appreciate that you dove into what adding spirals can do. Great video!
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I appreciate it!
Nicely done as always 🥃🥃🥃
Thanks for this buddy!
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I pulled my barrel spiral at 2 weeks on Prudent Pappy because it was just so incredible and I didn't want to ruin it. Do you recommend longer?
After two weeks it slows way down. It still does add flavor, but much slower. If you go longer than two weeks, I recommend going months. BUT if you like it as is? Pull the spiral and enjoy.
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I do blinds all the time at home where I pick the lineup and have my wife do the pouring. I could let her go wild and pick the bottles but she' doesn't know enough yet to pull stuff that might make sense to compare.
Anyway - usually after sampling the blind and getting down to the last quarter of an ounce in each glass I pour them together into a single glen. I would still do that with this lineup. The interesting part - the blends almost always end up being pretty good. It helps that I'm usually blinding similar proof, distillery, and/or mash bills.
This is a cool idea! I might have to try this.
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Great video buddy! Thank you for everything!
No thank you sir!
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I made prudent pappy with MM CS 2 parts + Larceny 1 part from your previous video, but for some reason the barrel spiral made it super oakey after just a couple of days that it didn't taste good. So I took it out fearing it would be even much more oakey if I left it in for longer.
Interesting. I haven't had them overdue it myself, but I have had some people say this. Are you sensitive to oak? Like do you like 10 year+ bourbons?
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@@yourdrinkingbuddy I finished a bottle of KC 12, HM10, JD 10, JD 12, ORVW10, LotB and Hardin's Creek 17 over the last few years and loved them. Now I'm scared to use the barrel spiral that I have due to it being "overly-oakey" so that it it tastes almost like burnt charcoal!
Fantastic mustache, pulling for the prudent pappy as I did that blend as per your advice and is in my decanter. Cheers from Moab DB, was at Antelope Canyon in your state this morning.
That is awesome! Have a blast. Really gorgeous views there.
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came back an finished watching. So i have not tried the 20 but have the 15. so glad I do. thanks for a fun flight and video. cheers
This was my first time ever trying the 20.
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I would guess larceny small batch is actually 4-5 years, not 6-8, but I don't know.
Heaven Hill's website actually says 6-12! Which blows my mind too!
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I’m really excited to buy a barrel spiral and put it in my benchmark full proof, because of your recommendation. I plan to leave it in for eight months, like you did.
I really want to try your prudent Pappy recipe, so how long did you leave your barrel spiral in? What are your thoughts on leaving a barrel spiral in your prudent Pappy recipe for a longer period of time, maybe three months, six months, or eight months?
I think it would totally work. I would try it at 2 weeks and if you love it pull the spiral. But you could certainly go much longer. It ages much slower after the first two weeks. So more happens in those first two weeks than even months after.
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Db send me some Benchmark FP that was home aged. It wasn’t Stagg, but it was quite good!
It works! Everyone should have one on their shelf!
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Love the episode. I am going to give it a shot as well, but replacing the Larceny with a SiB Rebel 120 Proof Store Pick. How long did you leave in the spire for? Thank you!
The packaging recommends 2 weeks, and after 2 weeks it adds very little. I think it is up to you. I would recommend trying it after a week and see what you think, when you think it is ready, pull the spiral. I have left them in for months to great results.
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Have a oak spiral sitting in a blend of Maker’s 101 and a hot batch of Larceny BP…to see if I can get a higher proof Fappy (fake Pappy)
What was the ratio of each? I hope it turns out great buddy!
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Marco is the best!!
He sure is!
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Cool blind. And I learned what “Prudent Pappy” was. Next obvious question is how that does in a blind against Poor Man’s Pappy. I won a Pappy 15 in our state lottery this year and it does live up to its rep.
I agree. It is fabulous. Prudent definitely does very well in blinds. I think it has beat old rip 10 every time they have ever gone up against each other.
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Nice video and comparisons. I have the Van Winkle 12 Year Lot B bottle which I like, and I was gifted a sample of Pappy 15 which I like a little more. My cousin has the Pappy 20 Year and I am hoping to be able to taste it this summer. 🥃
This was my first time tasting the Pappy 20. I definitely was surprised by it. It wasn't overoaked. It just delivered great flavors and a pleasant mouth feel.
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Good stuff
Thanks buddy! Have you done any spiral aging? Or prudent blending?
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I have done spiral aging.
I'd kill to get my hands on a Pappy Pickle Finish 😂
It only exists in my dreams I suppose 😔
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No chance I'll claim a Pappy anytime soon, but I'll raise my glass of Weller 12 to you sir. Enjoying the blinds, cheers brother! 🥃
Weller 12 and lot b are so similar!
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Pappy 20 for me. 15 is overhyped
I think they both are, but they are still both great... just not... thousands of dollars great.
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My guy the shash is lookin on point! Great review too lol
Thanks buddy!
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I made a bottle of prudent pappy when I watched one of your videos from a long time ago. I've tried it maybe once and need to throw it in a blind. Maybe add a spiral. Also, sorry if this is inappropriate but I tagged you in my Seven Deadly Sins Challenge video. I think it's a pretty cool concept and would love to see what you do with it. I can drop the link. Keep up the great content. If I overstepped, then delete.
I will go check it out! Thanks buddy!
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I can't seem to find it. Can you drop the link right here?
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Have you tried Larceny BP and regular Makers?
This is what I call Prudent Old Fitz. It ends up closet in flavor to old Fitzgerald. Prudent WLW Is 1 part Larceny BP and 2 parts MMCS.
I have lots of these! I should do a video on all of the different blends I have done.
@@yourdrinkingbuddy yes please! Just got my first aging barrel and would love to see your recipes! That’s one I would bookmark for sure!
@@garyskeel3236 done. Will film tonight.
@@garyskeel3236 will likely premiere Monday or Wednesday.
@@yourdrinkingbuddy Thank you! I’m looking forward to it!
Did you get for msrp or did you pay secondary price live in phx can not find pappy for under 1,200.
It was just 1 oz sample bottles. I don't own any van winkle. I did own an old rip 10 and paid msrp.
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where's the discord link?
Only for channel members. But if you join that isnt everything. Also do a monthly giveaway, this month was a YDB Glencairn. Plus other bonuses like name at the end of the video and invites to our blind drink alongs and more!
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