LEGAL standing locks of Judo
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- čas přidán 5. 09. 2024
- This video discusses Kansetsu waza, from a stadning position and how they can be done.
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Now i undestand why my first sensei loves these joint locks from the katas and all. Some brutal stuff!
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O.G. Fitness, you should invite Chadi on your channel for an interview/Judo & Jiujitsu conversation! I subscribe to both your channels. Judo over 40 was a good video.
@@SoldierDrew As a matter of fact i did, and we're going to do a podcast together, gonna announce it to the commumity today.
Shihya Aoki broke a mans arm with a standing arm lock/wake gatame in a mma match, its pretty quick and vicious. He also shows it in one of his instructional vids.
Yeah he uses it to counter his opponents whizzer, too nasty! I couldn’t use it unless it was an actual fight because the way he does it the likelihood of your opponents arm being broken is very high.
Very good to know though, having it in your back pocket could save your life.
It's not pretty
Am gonna master it
@@Chadi For anyone reading this not familiar with the particular arm break we’re referencing czcams.com/video/xgIuPpUT4fw/video.html
It's almost mind numbing what is allowed and what is not . Thumbs up and Thanks .
Thank you
Want to grab a leg? No, can't do that. Want to do this extremely dangerous hold? Okay, but you have to pinky promise you'll try not to break the arm.
@@jonatanlj747 Correct and I'm not interested in sport fighting .
One of the reasons why I love studying Fiore for his standing locks is in his introduction he has a drawing of himself holding a pair of arms. Tell him the reader that he has collected many arms in his day and that his techniques work. It's an interesting distinction to make between what would be used in a war combat setting versus a sports setting where you do not want to permanently injure your opponent.
I saw the same clips of wakegatame from older matches a few days ago and thought of how dangerous it was. Though it seems amazing for a self defense situation. Anyways its crazy coincidence you decided to a video on it today.
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Theres a famous standing wakigatame break in mma the only one ever I think from shiny aoki back in pride days.
@@scarred10 shinya does a weird sort of shallow, sideways waki gatame that he shows in his DVDs too
I always thought wakegatame was one of the most practical techniques in Judo for self-defense. It also exists in Aikido and BJJ.
@@killersalmon4359 yes it exists in everything. Japanese jujitsu, BJJ, Aikido..very few things are unique to one art..
People have no idea how underrated judo is jigoro Kano is a legit genius
Those speedy shihonage can really grind up your arm without the break fall. And it’s one of those rare technique that sloppy ones are almost more devastating than well executed ones. If you throw away from uke’s shoulder it begs for dislocation.
I know Aikido gets criticism for its big falls, but shihonage-done quickly-is one where that kind of reaction is merited.
They can hurt for sure
your videos have given me a lifetime of knowledge thank you i look forward to trying so many things ive learned from your chanel the best one ive seen one the internet keep it up Chadi
Thank you ladd for the update and wonderful presentation.
Fun fact: if you have a well placed kote gatame you can adjust your grip and go for a shihogatame from there... If you have a well placed wakigatame, you can transition into ude garami or kotegaeshi by adjusting your grip while un the lock... Both thinks ive been explained by ninjutsu practitioners and made them work...
Btw, could you make a video on the tenchijin ryaku no maki? Its a "ninjutsu hand to hand manual" and there are many books and videos on the topic
Let me check
great video ---Thanks from USA JUDO P3
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Awesome info as always, thank you for sharing 😊.
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So if I get the answer correctly, you can start the lock in standing, but only apply real pressure when your opponent is on the ground. But do this apply still in competition after the "ban" of "flying submissions"?
Anyhow, one of my personal favorite tricks was a version of the Ude Gatame, that I think was called Te Gatame. You get a lapel grip and when he tries to over grip that arm, you catch it, either above the wrist or the sleeve. Then you swing underneath causing him to either roll over, Aikido-style, for the Ippon, or catch him in a Kimura from the side. I actually got it from a contemporary book called "Modern Judo" written by one of the champs from the 80s, like Saito but not him. No heavyweight.
Te gatame is underrated
You can apply the lock when they're on both knees.
Since 2018, all joint locks on both standing position has become a foul. Can be used if either is in the ground position. After that, even if both stand up, you can use it until Mate.
Im a bjj guy. But I like to learn from this channel
Thank you Julianus
@@Chadi do you have any idea about Handfighting and standing game?
I have a training partner who trained judo for a few years. I have trained with wrestlers. Now we are practicing both BJJ as whitebelts and we try to mix our experience in the standing positions. But Judo and wrestling are so different in that regard.
If you have any sources to help us it would be greatly appreciated
@@julianusapostata6677 the stance is different, judo is upright, wrestling is bent and looking for the legs.
@@Chadi yea and the funny thing is I was in a more or less wrestling pose and he in a judo pose.
He was trapping my arms (holding the gi close to my hands). I could not go for single legs because my arms were hold in place.
At the same time he was not able to bring me to the floor because my legs were fare more back when he was use to and the wrestling stands is very stable.
We both feeled very countered and a bit stupid.
Hey Chadi, you did both Aikido and Judo. Would you honor us with an instructional video on the applications of standing arm locks for MMA and self-defense purposes?
Once I'm back on the mats
@@Chadi Nice. Look forward to it.
Lovely, thank you.
I remembered this video because the other day in my jiu jitsu class i did an arm lock extending is arm when it was clinching my neck, the guy was a blue belt ¡And i got the tap! 🙀😼🙀
Shodokan Aikido video plis 🙏🏻
Sure
I was told you could do standing locks and chokes as long as you don't throw with them is this not the case ?
What is tge music being used?
I'm just cringing imagining to be on the receiving end.
Same
I find the limitations on joint locks silly from a self defense point of view. In self defense there are acutally no joint locks. Not to force your opponent into submission. Whenever there is a jointlock in sparring/casual training, it means that in reality you break this joint. In Karate this is the kind of jointlocks that predominate. Oftentimes this jointlocks result in a throwing technique. Or a half-throw, as some might call it. In Karate we do not differentiate between half-throws and throws.
Of course i understand the necessity to create safe trainings conditions for the practioners. But the danger of the ruleset of competitions is: if you do only the kind of jointlocks that is considered legal under such rules as described in this educating video and not practise the other kind of jointlocks i just described, than this knowledge might get lost over time and a most effective weapon in self defense gets forgotten. This potential loss of knowledge is sad and to some degree dangerous. That is the main reason why i do not like competitions. It leads to a watering down of the martial arts.
For self defense they're a must
Does the standing RNC exist in Judo? I'm sure it does. What about neck cranks? Were they ever a thing in the ancient times of Judo?
If he's in his knees you can do an rnc, neck cranks were banned in 1925
Ah so that means that neck cranks used to be a part of the syllabus. Maybe we could get a video about lost judo neck cranks?
czcams.com/video/mwmPi_pr3_g/video.html
Tachi no kansetsu waza..............................I see no difference, between self-defense Jiu-jitsu, or this?
normally ancient Asian Martial art do not? prefer to fight on ground ，，， which means death during ancient battle filed... throwing and standing lock techniques are ok
Right
i def cringed because alot of these look like theyre applied really quickly and very tighty
2nd comment!!!
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Standing locks seems like dick moves in sparring. Anything shoulder to wrist is dangerous.
They're dangerous for sure