How Much Does It Cost to 3D Print a Death Korp Of Krieg Combat Patrol
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I live in Argentina. If it wasn't for 3d printing, we at my local game store simply wouldn't be able to play the game (we used to play Heroclix, and had to drop it because prices went through the roof too). I have an FDM printer, and two other guys have resin printers. We all make models and terrain for the game and have a blast. I will always support 3d printing
GW ignores Brazil so yes i will 3d print what i can so i can play their game, and Yes Brazil has an enourms community of wargamers and miniature painters, and yet GW just choose to ignore us, so without 3d printers i would never be able to play warhammer and others games
Same words for Mexico, GW ignores too!!
You absolutely should be 3D printing and other methods of making your own minis! It seems like GW doesn't care about anyone in Central and South American countries. It's already extremely cost prohibitive to play in countries they do sell to and it didn't used to be this way.
@@PassengerOnTheMenu Im in this moment finishing a City of sigmar 2000 points 3d printed army, and starting my own leagues of votan army thanks to OPR and my trust Elegoo mars 2 pro
Ei eu queria muito começar, tu pode me indicar um forum bom?
The frustrating thing about the "Official models only" argument is that, if we're being honest, GW doesn't have the stock available to support their fanbase.
There are SO many examples of kits that you just cannot get, not because they are discontinued, but because GW cannot keep up with demand for them. My personal example of this is the War Dogs from the Chaos Knights line; they are brilliant kits and at $100 CAD each I would buy 4 boxes without a second thought because they're cool models, fun kits, and are very useful in-game. Only problem is you literally cannot find them anywhere. I managed to order 1 box that was in an LGS on the literal other side of the country from me and until they arrived I thought I'd been scammed. These have been "Temporarily Out of Stock" from GW direct for MONTHS and this is not the first time since they launched it that they are out of stock for months at a time.
This is to say, I have no issue spending my money with GW, but they make 3D printing a better option because of convenience and getting the models you actually want on the board, and when it's literally more convenient AND cheaper than the official way, then I (and most others) are going to just do that instead of waiting around to spend several times more for the same outcome.
Dude I remember when the Kasrkin first re-released after like 20 years and they went out of stock IMMDEDIATELY it was insane and werent available for literally months. GW tries to hold a vice grip on the game as a whole and as much as we love the IP and the universe its not worth the astronomical prices they want for their models when 3D printing exists and allows us to basically play the game with stand in models that do the same thing and dont drain our bank accounts.
I'm reminded of the argument that made Steam a thing back in the day. The best way to combat piracy is to offer a better/more convenient service.
If GW doesn't want people 3d printing things... maybe they should make it more convenient/cheaper to buy their stuff.
Or I dunno ... maybe they can sell their own stls.
Pricing is hardly my only issue with the company.
@DeviantEdspear well it isn't just pricing as you said, it's also the fact that their quality control and actual availability is a major part of the issue. I've had pieces come in from the new Imperial guard kits that have had unseemly mold lines. Thankfully not on my Lord Solar or characters but a lot on the infantry units. It's just the fact that they force scarcity and don't have the stock often to actually supply the needs of their consumers. Price I do think is an issue to a degree as well because the amount of money they want for ten infantry or hell in my personal experience a Rogal Dorn tank is $100 thankfully I got mine before the price hike but it still doesn't make it any less egregious and that goes for all factions of the game too that have outrageously priced/scarce models. To your end with Valve they just simply undercut the competition and have great practices which GW doesn't. If GW had more sales more often people would flock to buy their stuff.
Since I've started the hobby in 3rd edition, there has always been a class difference in army composition. I remember every Christmas and every birthday asking for warhammer kits. And I was barely able to put together a 2000 point list. And after I was able to, my army was outclassed heavily by other players with more of a disposable income than me. Now with warhammer as a hobby from when I was growing up, I'm revisiting the hobby with more resources and an appreciation for the creative side. I wish I had the tools that 3d printing has provided when I was younger. The technology wasn't there. Having had a 3d printing set up for almost 4 years now, I've had a great appreciation for the creative people in our hobby. I definitely recommend it for anyone remotely interested in getting one, it will pay for itself within the first 1000 ml bottle of resin, every time.
YES!!! So happy Sam is starting to do Combat Patrol boxes! He even managed to print those cheaper than mine which came out to about $57 USD. Please keep doing more Combat Patrol boxes! Having a lot of different ones means that it's a lot easier to sit down with friends who are interested and introduce them to the game while giving them an opportunity to try out different armies. The cost to enter is just insane in this hobby, so having more people with multiple small armies is only ever going to be a good thing
I've been on a break for about 4-5 months I just haven't had any energy to 3D print or paint or build any models, I don't know why every time you make one of these videos I get inspired and want to expand my Army and improve my painting skills LMAO thank you!
More combat patrols box sets please! Great videos!
100% agree on supporting small creators for proxy models. However personally i prefer GW replicas for vehicles / knights
Personally, me and my wife love the hobby, but between our other hobbies/interests we can't really afford to get as into this as we would like so we get stuck with alternative media for the hobby such as games/audiobooks. More financially digestible methods. My coworker runs a 3D printing company so even having the option to 3D print my models through her is a really nice change of pace and allows me to practice my painting.
I like this sentinel that looks like AT-RT from Star Wars
i looked at the price of armies and was stunned at how high they were. all my friends eventually got into it when I showed some interest and so i went the "proxy" route (they didnt care infact they thought cool)and bought a 3D printer and i already wanted one to print dnd minis so the 40k stuff was a bonus, come to find out no shop(non gw) in my area allows proxies at all. after i printed my entire army.... i was heart broken because i felt gate kept. luckily my friends all pitched in to get me a combat patrol and some other kits to start collecting and I've found that there's money savings if you buy used. but what i think I'm gonna do is only print resin gw kits, if its not made in plastic and isn't available to buy in the same amount it would take to print I'm printing it!
Non GW shops not allowing it is ridiculous.I don't play 40k but saw a single 32mm (or whatever) officer guy for sale at the locals game shop for $53 AUD.
That is just ridiculous. WOTC pricing for single miniatures (the newer kits) is also absurd.
But really people should be moving on from GW at this point with their money grubbing schemes. More people should play one page rules or whatever. The game part of GW is questionable quality at best, their universe is cool as well as their minis but those are not "the game".
@@joel6376 yeah 10$ for 2 character minis for dnd is absurd. I could print. Whole taverns worth of minis for that price
@@tonydiazist Had to look them up, checkout the pricing on the newer frameworks minis. haha.
Sick Video Sam Love the Dkok
Thanks Brother! You and me both
your kriegsmen video is what got me back into painting and made me buy a 3d printer! im now hooked!! thanks sam!!!
Your combat patrol videos are excellent, always glad to see one especially for the valour korps! I've printed a bunch of these guys myself, and love the way they look. With valour korps, I found them pretty easy to build in blender and export as single models, because I'm not a big fan of building too.
Makers Cult also offers a Valor Korps version of the field guns (including the rockets).
You need to print out shovels
It's a great hobby with many facets. I like the printing poxy side of the hobby. I made a super cute bobble head sisters of battle army and love it. I didn't want them grim dark, but more cutesy and bright pink. Also, I loved going crazy bananas with the ork army. I think it's part of the expression, like color choice. I still buy GM models to collect, but it is a vast big hobby. Totally behind you man!!
I just got into 3d printing because all my friends saw me enjoying my Blood angels but could not afford to run the armies they want. So now we are all getting together to print Battle Sisters, Space Bugs and Weeb space commies. The joy of creating these is just as fun as the game
Artists working for GW aren't paid by sales. By the time GW sells these minies, artists have their money already. No need to cry for Corpo, Samurai. I say go for 3D printing if you want. It is cheaper, not cheap. You require some skill on your side and you supports small creators. I must say i am always glad to see not copy-pasted GW models, but some smaller or bigger differences. Some amount of originality.
Pretty sure one of the Maker's Cult artists was attempting to become a GW sculptor and wasn't hired. Pretty sure they're doing better on their own now.
Dude do all the combat patrols!
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I'm too lazy to paint faces and a lot of miniatures, so... Yesterday I thought it would be nice to find a Death Korp Of Krieg Combat Patrol, and now this video has appeared! 😮😮😅😅🤔🤔
I found a really awesome stls for my dkok armies bases which for £1.50 get you a pack of 10 trench themed bases. Worth checking out on cults 3d (can’t remember name sorry 😅)
Challenge for you: Steel Legion/Vostroyan or Valhallan Guard regiment Combat patrol boxes! I know that stl designers like "Ghamak" makes excellent "Firstborn" vostroyan minis since GW dosnt like making them anymore.
Okay that patron Krieg reveal sold me, its backing time
Those sentinels look just like Star Wars at rts
Where are you getting the files for those Kriegsmen? They look awesome!
Have you looked at the Stationforge Grimguard line? I think both the Makerscult Valour Korps and the StationForge Grimguard are superior sculpts to teh Forgeworld Death Korps.
😃 LOL, I didn't want to say, but the models shown in the video are from The Makers Cult (Valour Korps). That includes the walkers. Both Stationforge and The Makers Cult are excelent patreon options if you like Sci-Fi models that are a good fit as grim dark stand-ins without being copies of GW models.
I played for about 5 years and had 3 armies. I had orks, marines, and a separate black templar army, all over 2k points and mostly painted. I wound up selling them all for like $2k (the orks were expensive) and I don't want to think about what I paid for all of them. I got out because prices were too high, and my local scene turned unfriendly and not fun. I always enjoyed the lore, but the prices were prohibitive and ultimately made the hobby not fun because it made me unable to play the lists I wanted to. I remember saying that I'd try again when I could print my own models. 10+ years later and a degree in Digital Art and a new 3D printer, I'm on my way to playing again. I went to look at the prices out of curiosity and literally laughed out loud when I saw how extreme the prices are. The single unit prices are absurd and they cannot justify them in any way to me.
I have no qualms about printing models that are similar, especially if I model them myself. They don't do themselves any favors by guarding their IP so hard either. Things like not allowing audiobooks of most of their novels, knocking down content creators, and then allowing too many video games with extremely poor quality to be produced keeps their exposure low to potential new players like me that got into it from a book I bought based on the cover.
3D printing is already in a place where it's the obvious way into the hobby, and definitely going to be used at least to augment models, produce single bits you broke or lost, and for many of us, print whole armies. If your local shops don't allow proxies, get a group together and play at someone's house, or find a church or community building that allows you to use them for free on weekends and play there. The local shops will have to adapt, and should. It's never good business to deny customers because you think them not buying a few box sets due to a 3D printer is unfair, it's just costing them in the long run where they could benefit from increased sales in everything around the models themselves, as well as snacks and so on. So no, don't feel bad about it, it isn't theft, especially if someone else modeled the thing you are printing and you paid them, or they gave it to you free.
I would love too see you print and paint some more tyranids
Great job on this video I just got a 3d printer I just fixed and I'm going to find these files and print some for myself.
I find myself on the fence, as while I can afford GW models and have bought numerous, building a horde army like a Krieg army gets rather expensive rather quickly. I actually picked up the same STLs and have loved everything I've printed with them so far.
Theres no reason other than lack of competition for GW to be charging what they do, so I'm hoping the influx of 3D printed armies begins to make them second guess their rules and prices about it, because if people were able to cheaply try the game, the player base would grow exponentially.
Great video brother
Thanks brother!
I’ve watched the 1000 Kreig print video and it is Avery door idea for your members. I’d write everyone’s name on them but that’s over kill I’d suggest just a name plaque for the top top tier members for the command squad and characters after guests and collars or whatever
I've a 2000pts army of these guys ! The sculpts are insane !
3D printing is a game changer for me. Because the guy I used to work for did not have worker's compensation insurance like the law requires I went from making $250 an hour to what passes for social security after surviving a catastrophic work injury. GW is priced well beyond my means and that was before I started helping to take care of an elderly family member. As far as the IP goes, GW does not care one bit about the players only their money. While in some cases 3D printing may well go past the line with some content out there but where GW's IP is concerned I am perfectly fine with it. They will not get my money ever again, even if I was to find myself a billionaire, until sweeping changes are enacted with safeguards.
There is absolutely no chatter about fantasy figures or historic war games. Nobody complains about IP infringements when "Bob" releases an army set of WW II Marine miniatures or Loot Studios has a couple of Orks in the monthly bundle. I just bought an ENTIRE Egyptian themed skeletal army set of STLs for $42 US. This thing was MASSIVE. Best of all, there is not a single person on the planet who could make a rationally coherent claim of an IP violation (There will always be a Buttermilk Bob out there).
3D printing IS the wave of the future and companies need to start catering to us instead of standing in our way. We vote with our pocket books and executives need to listen. People like me will not buy overpriced plastic by companies with stupid expensive rulesets but make reasonably priced STLs available with good rule sets and we can talk.
I'd love to print some, love the ones I seen painted in a comic book style
man, those are some nice models/files
because you complained of superglue on your fingers, some IPA or nail pollish remover (not the acetone free one) will take care of that. just put some on a paper tower and scrub a bit
Making stl files for 3d printing is free money for modeling companies. Id gladly pay 15 dollars for a set of infantry or a vehicle, do all the production myself, and save GW tons of money on overhead. But nah, id rather support small businesses and talented independent artists than throw more money at GW anyways, they've got enough out of me just on paints.
Your paint jobs always look great. Not sure why you put it down.
3D printing has allowed me a great entry into the hobby. I don't own a printer, but I buy stuff from people who have the license to sell 3D prints.
I think 3D printing offers more variety than what is put out by GW. Or, gives people the chance to buy some similar minis of models that are no longer in production.
I have some proxy Space Marine bits that are great. And recently, started buying true scale Grey Knight miniatures. Do I feel bad that the money I'm using for those miniatures is not going to GW? Not at all.
On the topic of out of production models, would a video series where you print armies of old Imperial Guard regiments sound like something you'd do?
Would love to see you do ork combat patrol. FOR THE WAAAAGH!
I'm a loyal GW buyer from more than 20 years, and I'm sure that I'll stay being but....I'm into this 3D print stuff. You're one of the main causes, I feel that I need it and comparing the cost of our hobby a investment in a nice 3D printer, it's not so expensive. I've adquired an Elegoo Mars 4 9K, hope that it will be as much aswesome as I expect!
These look amazing! The Sentinal looks like an AT RT from star wars lol.
3d printing is the only way I'm going to be able to afford death riders for my krieg army list.
I recently bought Kislev proxy army from Titanforge. Argument of 3D printing proxies instead of buying kind of goes out the window when there never was Kislevite army.
GW should sell STL's for their OOP figures. It's mind boggling that they dont.
I agree witht he idea that printing modles that are the exact same is a little iffy, but printing models for warhammer that innovate or are similar is all good.
This video is an inspiration. I keep saying that this is the year for a 3D printer.
Maybe Elegoo will run a sale soon....
I guess the only downside to 3D printing 'similar' models to the original IP is, you can't play in GW stores or even with other folks that have only bought their models from GW ( because some of those folks won't play with you). I think 3D printing for ones hobby is here to stay and more and more folks will accept playing with 3D models. Obviously GW should release stl files.
Great video, where can I find or buy the stl file for this awesome kriegman combat patrol ?
The way you talk it sounds like the Revolution is gonna start with warhammer and I’m here for it
I really got into 3d printing when I got back into 40K with my son. The terrain alone is worth looking at a FDM solution. There are loads of free stuff and fairly priced stls that support artists. I wouldn't do a knock off but unique stuff is worth it. After just getting resin I have been trying out One Page Rules. They are way more laid back qbout proxies but not as many other players. I am hopeful as there rules and army stuff is free so you can entice GW players.
Love it
Print the combat patrols, would love to see it.
More please
i love these models, the only army id do guard in is krieg, but that being said i dont have access to 3d printing.
You've lost weight, great job! On the same journey right now!
Thanks! However the holidays has meant I've put a bit back on since lmao
I mean your right, there are tons of small creators that do a better flavorful job I think. Edge Miniatures and their Dark Space Elf line is.. more Dark Eldar than Druhkari.
I always assemble my models in chitubox and print them whole with base attached as well
It is always moral to undercut and deny profit to multinational corporations for art.
Support indie artists, and flip corpos the bird.
Be the solution to the problem, not part of the problem.
If we really care about the artists, we should be supporting new systems that help them, and spitting in the faces of those who use artist's passion to pay stockholders.
Source : Professional Artist
Pls could you cover the Black Templar combat patrol
May I ask you what kind of resin do you use?
Hey Sam, im getting into 3d printing with a resin printer and i am a warhammer fan. Is there a discord for beginner questions on both printing miniatures and general warhammer tabletop stuff?
Interesting. I don't own a 3D printer but I consider buying ones that are printed, or getting the STLs and getting someone to print them. It'd probably still be cheaper.
I can safely say that I wouldn’t be playing 40K and wouldn’t have spent nearly as much on models and paints had I not also had the ability to paint. GW actually owes the sale of a leviathan box and Soul Forge box to the fact I can print as well . Otherwise I wouldn’t have bought them at all.
I print by my self, because i don't like to play anymore, because the community where i live is toxic, only Powergaming...
I only want to paint some Minis and have cool looking models for my Display cabinet. Thats why i love loot studios and opr.
Some of the models which i love, or for a skirmisher or bordgame i like to buy.
What is that enclosure/rack you have you printer in? Can you make a vid about that?
Nice future Frenchmen you built there! Viva la Krieg!!
I buy GW models and 3D Print. I get the argument GW is expensive, because it is... But buying a box from them, the tools/glue you need from amazon, is considerably cheaper and easier than buying a 3D printer, learning how to use it, having the space for it, handling resin, crying over failed prints, disposing of resin, finding and paying for good models to download, learning to add supports if you need to etc etc.
I'd argue it's a time and accessibility thing over a money thing for most people.
wait what are you wearing at 7:12 a yeti ?
Though corpse still kinda applies...
Thanks for the video.
Some thoughts:
I think this is a proper response to market forces, and is not an anti-capitalist strategy; on the contrary, this is capitalism working as intended.
Companies do one of two things; either they pivot, or die. No market stays stagnant, demands will always fluctuate and if GW feels some losses because of printing, they'll adjust their business practices or become the next Atari or Kodak (also leaders in their respective markets.)
GW (the publicly traded company) doesn't care if you *play* their *game*, they care if you *buy* their *products*.
Remember how the music industry complained that Napster would be their ruination? One could argue that as technology developed, CZcams, Spotify, Soundcloud, etc has helped aspiring artists to break into the market. If anyone lost out it was probably agents and distributors. There's way more music being published online today than people had access to in 1998.
A marketer's job is to convince me to purchase your product. If I'm choosing an alternative, you've *failed*. If you didn't achieve the results you want, *do better*.
I'm not on this planet to be a corporation's statistic, their consumer.
Man biggest problem I have rn is with my guardsmen. I got 45 catachan proxy if guardsmen but non of them have bases so I’m stuck rn with not having any and problem with it is there is no way I can get any for reasonable price. No online seller has right size and don’t have 50 pack that’s not near 30 dollars or more and that’s not including possible shipping
Idk know if you are in the US, but I just ordered 100 25mm round bases on Ebay for under $13 (after shipping) from a company here so I could base my Cadians and Eldar. They have 60mm bases too for Heavy Weapons Teams, and all together a pack of both would be under $30 shipping included.
If anything gw makes money from me now that i have a printer because I buy Citadel paints. Without a printer i wouldn't be paying Australian prices for plastic crack nor would i be buying paints.
After how many prints (let's say 30mm mini's) do you have to change the FEP film and when is a resin printer LCD screen just done fore it? Doesn't this factor also needs to calculate in? Just curious because I like a cheaper way to get into the hobby.
I love how many 3rd world comments say that they want to play but gw ignores the country so they say, f off I'll 3d print mi crap, I'm doing it as well. Here is a viewer from venezuela
what creator / files did you use?
What blue did you use for their coats?
WOW
I think you're doing awesome work. Have you considered making some age of sigmar content?
Could you do a Tau army?
If GW cared about us they wouldn’t make the most basic unit of Kreig 80 plus bucks. So I will go out of my way to print as close to the IP as possible. And learn to 3D print in general just for this to happen.
Where can we get these files?
Gw has priced me out so fuck em they got the money they needed frm me I remember my mum buying me a 12 pound codex when I was in hospital it was thinner than a pound coin....it was then I realized I was being extorted
where do you get the files ?
Do it!
Can I have the link to the files plz.
Iron warriors combat patrol please
I mean.......they're releasing the Krieg Combat patrol soon in plastic? So this video is kinda moot?
3d printing is the only way to fight GW monopoly price hikes and get them to make the kits everyone wants.
Hello Im after a Psi - Titan in Adeptus titanicus, since they stopped selling it on Forge world, does anyone know how to get the parts?
Models?
Players: "We want plastic DKoK!"
GW: "Did I hear mOrE cAdIaNs?"
Yeah, I'll switch to printing
Where can you get the files from?
I found them on the makers cult. They are called valour korps
GW doesn't even support half the games I play anymore. I'll be damned if they try to force me into playing their newer 90 times more expensive games.
GW prices are outrageous but doesn't it cost more to purchase and mantain a high end printing setup? I'm not trying to provoke anything, just curious.
can you please credit the 3d models you have used?
I don't have any problems with printing exact copies of GW minis, they are just immoral in their dealings. They reap ever increasing profit from people and still raise prices.
There is nothing morally wrong with 3D printing close to the IP. GW ripped off a laundry list of other IPs and was just the first to make plastic soldiers well. F their business practices, print whatever you want.