X2: X-Men United - Nostalgia Critic
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Many call it the best X-Men movie, but Nostalgia Critic has some problems with it that a lot of people choose to ignore. Let's take a look at X2: X-Men United.
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X2 (often promoted as X2: X-Men United is a 2003 American superhero film. The film is based on the X-Men superhero team appearing in Marvel Comics. It is the sequel to 2000's X-Men, as well as the second installment in the X-Men film series, and features an ensemble cast including Patrick Stewart, Hugh Jackman, Ian McKellen, Halle Berry, Famke Janssen, James Marsden, Rebecca Romijn-Stamos, Brian Cox, Alan Cumming, Bruce Davison, and Anna Paquin.
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0:44 Wow... I now have seen a Patrick Stewart image more terrifying than his cgi "young face" from Origins: Wolverine.
Channel Awesome Deadpool and X-Men Origins Wolverine
1:36 - 1:42 Stupid name, but still best of the franchise. You know I'm right. You *ALL KNOW I'M RIGHT!* Besides, is it any dumber than highlighting the *X* at the end of Dark Phoenix?
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Everyone says xmen uses blue too much. The truth is that blue was chosen in the comics since it was one of the cheaper colors(along with green and purple)
Green Arrow, Green Lantern, Hulk, She Hulk, Green Goblin, Green Hornet, Blue Beetle, Red Robin, Blue Marvel, Red Skull,
Also, sometimes it was purely due to those colors being better for the technology of the time.
Hulk was grey in the first issue and apparently Stan Lee wanted him to be gray because it was a color of no ethnic group, but was later changed to green due to problems with the grey causing problems. Wikipedia states it was due to the colorist Stan Goldberg having issues with the color resulting in different shades on different pages, other sources I googled say it was a printing issue causing finer details of the drawings to be lost in print. Writing this comment out it strikes me that those two might not be mutually exclusive, but I digress.
It's like complaining that Picasso used only blue in his early life.
on the other hand, the Spider-Man films have a lot of green villains.
@@revstalker7334 The original Gray Hulk was also supposedly inspired by how certain kinds of meat (I think it was pork, but I can’t remember exactly) can turn gray in a microwave, I think i saw it in one of the marvel encyclopedias.
I hate how Nightcrawler was just tossed aside after X2. He's one of the best X-Men in history.
He was quite good in Apocalypse, hopefully he has a good role in Dark Phoenix
The Alan Cumming version s the superior version. It's a crime that he wasn't in The Last Stand.
The actor didnt want to play him anymore
@@Jtr999Oh...Why?
He WAS going to be in Last Stand but the actor said no
During the scene where Magneto escapes his prison my son (9) said that "Magneto is cool!".
All I could reply was: "Yes. Yes he is."
Awesome.
And then the whole theater clapped.
Kurington Kuriton Magneto is my favourite X Men character tied with Wolverine. Hell with it if you asked me which X Men character I would be, I would say that “I Prefer Magneto”
Let's face it, if any of us were mutants we'd probably join his side just cuz
"Truly wonderful the mind of a child is"
That opening Nightcrawler scene still holds up.
sure does... can disney/marvel top it?...
@@caliginousmoira8565 already did
@@TonyHill2335 i meant with Nightcrawler but i get what you are saying
Nightcrawler is best boy
Big time
In defense of Magneto using the little metal balls I think that shows creativity of his power. He took the iron out of that guy’s body and turned it into his escape tools.
Also that shot of him slowly walking out of his cell while his cell shatters around him is pretty sweet
The opening of seeing nightcrawler kick ass is still kick ass.
And the lady death strike and wolverine fight was awesome.
The nightcrawler one still holds up, however the latter has kinda sank into early 2k cheese. Still fun but I wouldn't use it as a reference for a good fight scene
They're just talking shit so they can make a video. I don't think he honestly feels it's a bad film. If he does, then he's just an X-Men comic/TV zealot.
@@jzakary1 ...but in the end he said the movie is okay?
@@madcap3450 well, people are allowed to point out problems on the stuff they like
It's hard to make a review without talking about the bad stuff
Don’t watch if you don’t like it, loser. Doug’s job is to entertain. Even if it’s a film he likes he’s gonna spend time making fun of silly aspects more than he’s gonna focus on praising it.
I know it’s a cliché, but I actually think Magneto saying “You should of killed me when you had the chance!” Kinda works.
Most villains say it as a taunt, but I feel like Magneto genuinely means it. For all their differences, he would rather die then betray his friend. He’s not taunting Xavier, he’s speaking out of guilt/remorse.
7:32 Now this is a common misconception. X-Men fans don't hate Cyclops. In fact, comic fans often rank him pretty high. X-Men MOVIE fans hate Cyclops because he's written about as well as Bane in Batman & Robin.
At least Cyclops actually had some.. well we at least got to see him do stuff? Idk the only thing Bane did was busy Ivy and Freeze out of prison
@@tanandalynch9441You mean “bust?”
Actually there did exist a comic where Mystique and Wolverine were a couple! In fact, believe it or not, Mystique was actually once Wolverine's lover before his memory was erased during the Weapon X project!
The evolution touched on that Iirc a few times.
^which would tie in well with the ending of DOFP.
With them both being more or less ageless it was likely to happen eventually either way. Especially as Mystique isn't known for being loyal to lovers outside of Destiny.
While this is true the romance in X2 with Mystique comes out of nowhere and feels shoehorned in. Then it’s never touched on again in Last Stand but why the hell would I look for logic in that movie? Logan always had a crush on Jean in the comics and animated series but the movies just took that idea and really ran it into the ground. Instead of focusing on a bittersweet love story between Gambit and Rogue... oh wait...
@@WickedLiquid I wouldn't exactly call it romance. She sees him for the first time since he left her for dead and she screws with him because she's a bit sadistic and it is obvious he wants to be with Jean.
She even turns into Rogue, whom he probably thinks of as a daughter at that point. She's not suddenly into him, so much as she is being a bit vicious and mean spirited.
Xavier isn’t a telekinetic. He can’t move things, so no he couldn’t have lifted the plane.
Jean not lifting the plane from the inside has always bugged me, though.
Kujakuseki01 needed to stop the water at the same time
@@Damon242 hm she can stop it from inside too ?
Edit: Typo
The only reason as to why that didn't happen, at least as far as I can tell; is that she could sense that if she unleashed her power to that extent, it would trigger something that would somehow change her.
She didn't know *how* it would change her, but it felt *scary enough* to her; that she didn't want to risk hurting anyone.
Basically, she wanted to use her power to get them out of there; before she lost control as the Phoenix slowly took over.
At least, that's the only reason I can think of.
Couldn't he halt time though like he did in the museum? Or was he using Cerebro then? I can't remember
@@TheAlps36 He wasn't halting time, he was just freezing up all the regular people so the mutants could make a clean get-away. Time was still flowing normally.
Everyone's talking about how Xavier couldn't have lifted the plane.
But why couldn't JEAN lift the plane from inside?
Basically to also be able to hold off the water. She is neither super powerful nor super fast in the movie. She is also shown to direct her powers with her hands and in general needing to at least see the target for some time. It may not be totally like in the comics where she developed way past this level, but she was also not that powerful in the early comics as well.
She did in the novel version, lol.
She does in the novel version, but goes blind from the ordeal.
David Gantenbein: Actually, she closed Logan’s closet without moving anything. She stops syringes mid-air in X-Men: The Last Stand without even facing the people shooting said darts at her and she literally blocks Scott’s optic blast after he shoots at her. I’m pretty sure her being out there was a weak excuse to build tot he Dark Phoenix. And that scene where she does was my favorite part of the movie as a Jean fan, yet I mean every word.
David Gantenbein: Sorry about the second reply, but that is what they say in the comics, where she isn’t all that powerful. What few don’t know is that even before the Phoenix, this was the girl who lifted the Blob once (the ground though pulled some bull crap. It’s the 60’s comics), lifted Juggernaut twice, caught Quicksilver mid-run at least twice in her Marvel Girl Days, and for practice, took apart an entire gums and then put it back together. I’m talking a rifle or sniper gun. These aren’t even the Bendis versions. These are literally her in her Jack Kirby and Stan Lee 60’s era.
Going into her Green Skirt Era she has: used her telepathy on a helmeted Juggernaut, sensed Bobby was in trouble in San Francisco from New York, stalemated Mesmero in a psychic battle (yet, he later mind-controls a Phoenix Rachel Summers), mind-rapes the Savage Hulk, and acted as a funnel for Xavier to pour the worlds positive emotions through her into Havok who supercharges it and then she connects it to Scott who directs the energy at an alien space ship.
Her problem was how much they made her the damsel in distress, despite clearly having one of the most powerful abilities on the team, something not acknowledged until Claremont’s era, where they compare her to Phoenix by calling her the weakest member. To be fair though, her blunders are legendary from getting knocked out with knock out gas to losing to the Wasp because the Wasp blinded Jean with her own hair.
9:32 well that song aged great in later mcu movies
Great intro
"this is the only way"
1) ice man is nowhere near that powerful yet
2) Storm has atmospheric /temperature control, not water control
3) Xavier doesn't have telekinesis
Jack Richardson thank god someone picked up on that
I've been looking for this comment, thank you😂👍
Damm Doug really messed up on that
Jack Richardson 4) It’s possible Jean couldn’t stop the water from inside
1and 2 is a big argument 3 I can agree the whole sacrifice is complete bull and still a big complaint to this day having storm and iceman especially Bobby can combine there powers together to stop the the water fall also she can create blizzards and iceman can unleash his true potential and have it stop that flood to the max with his powers putting him to the next level there is no reason that Jean going out of the jet and stop it by herself this isn’t bold it’s stupid
"Xavier couldn't have lifted the plane from inside?"
....No....no he couldn't have.
For fuck's sake, why do people always get that wrong?! Xavier is the most powerful TELEPATH in the world, in no version of the character (well, no canonical version...) has he ever been telekinetic.
As with most things wrong with X-Men, I blame Jean Grey for it.
As part of X-month I want an X-planation of this gross oversight from Critic
Mind games
If been noticing more and more errors of this magnitude on the part of this show recently as it gets into movies I've actually seen and know the details of.
And then watch him ignore thsoe details that explain things and say those things come out of no where among not understanding characters he's supposedly fans of abilities.
It's been getting worse and worse.
He can't even lift his own legs.
"Xavier couldn't have lifted the plane from the inside?"
Doug, Xavier can't even move his legs with his powers, why the hell would he be able to move a jet?
Also Professor X is not telekinetic and never exhibited TK in the films.
@@FadzaiSimango I thought he had to make a choice. Either walk or have his powers, he cant do both or switch quickly.
Fadzai Simango
It depends on the universe, in some universes he has a minor amount of
Telekinesis he tends to use for moving his chair around.
Never heard that- Prof.X was always the world's most powerful telepath, not telekinetic. That would be Jean. Which is why Prof.X put telepathic blockers in her head. I'm saying Jean HAD the most powerful tk, but then there was Cable, & then X-Man (which has gotta be the worst f*ckin name ever).
Sin Sanity in the Ultimate Universe he has enough power to lift himself a few meters into the air, chair and everything. But yeah, I have no idea where people get him to be able to lift a plane.
You really brushed over one of my all time favorite scenes: when Pyro attacked the police. This helped lay the groundwork for his siding with Magneto.
Nightcrawler doesn't know the thickness of the walls
Iceman is not that powerful yet
Storm has never demonstrated such control of nature that she could ever stop a flood
And the professor is telepathic, not telekinetic.
the other three, fair, but nightcrawler not knowing the thickness of the walls. OK. so how did he know the exact distance he needed to teleport to make it exactly into the plane in one teleport.
@@zachspears5244 He knows where he is going. I don't know why this is hard to understand
@@zachspears5244 simple,if he can see,he can teleport,if he cant,he cant teleport
Who cares..😑 I don't
@@michellewilliams5208 Then why you responding. Don't give a shit if you do or not.
Who else agrees that Alan Cumming as NightCrawler was the highlight of the film 😄👌
Hehe cumming
He's about the only thing I enjoyed in this terribly overrated movie. So unfortunate that he never appeared in any other movie.
Did he do anything cool besides that intro...?
That's an undisputable, iron clad fact :D
I’d also put Brain Cox as Stryker as a highlight.
I mean, yes, the whole floating platform thing DOES look silly, but it IS the sort of thing Magneto would do...
I thought it was dope though?
For me it’s so damn stupid but hilarious at the same time. The way he posses and is moving along with the score. I’m always expecting some announcer to come in
Not really Magento normally just flies by propelling himself using the Earth's magnetism, the platform normally isnt needed.
"Future botched storylines"
- SPOT RESERVED FOR DARK PHOENIX -
Boy, did he call that one.
Mr_LRB GOODNESS GRACIOUS YES!
I hope they mention that Phoenix Force knew Odin in the MCU. Hilariously they were part of a team called Asgardians of the Galaxy.
No one will ever be able to do the Dark Phoenix saga correctly because it will require multiple movies. There's just that much plot you have to cover. And I highly doubt any film studio will be willing to put that much time and money into it. Hell, Disney crapped out on the Narnia series after only 2 movies, leaving Fox to make that awful 3rd one.
I don't understand what that Easter egg was. Who was that figure?
Wait,that came out ?
@Kryptoskillet it’s true. They were also a couple when they were young
1.) From the moment Pyro is introduced, its very clear he's not interested in being a hero (especially when he incinerates the police). Magneto offers him the opportunity to run wild while Professor X reprimands him for his "showing out" at the mall.
2.) Stryker's mutant subordinates are kept under control using mind-altering drugs, that's all that matters.
3.) The main point of showing Iceman's family is to give further commentary on social issues, like the first movie's "Are mutants dangerous?"
4.) I'm sure its pretty difficult to smell people when they're operating underground and covered by a pretty decent amount of snow, even for Wolverine.
5.) Mystique spends her time in the first movie with a frog-man, lion-man, and old man. Why wouldn't she make a move on Wolverine?
Exactly. I feel like Critic was very nit-picky on this one. "Jean & Logan had a thing?" Umm yes it's pretty clear in the first film he had a crush on her
This whole video was just nitpicking bullshit.... thought it was gonna be like the previous... meh...
@@alejandromolinac oh, I'm sure the other films will have PLENTY to talk about
Its still pretty freaking stupid
actually the iceman thing is to further the whole mutation is an allegory for homosexuality angle the singer era had in the early days
How can you claim that Pyro's change in allegiance isn't justified? Pyro clearly shows hostility towards humans in the opening scene at the museum and when he literally tells the police to fear him before he attacks them at Iceman's house. He's following along and keeping his head down while he's at the school, but he clearly doesn't agree with Xavier's ideology. So when Magneto tells him that he's a god and that his mutant identity is more important than his human identity, he finally feels validated and instantly jumps ship. Did you even watch the movie Doug?
^This, like seriously Pyros change over to Magneto was foreshadowed the entire movie, its not spontaneous at all. Magneto was probably the first mutant to tell him something he had been thinking all his life.
freakboy186 I hate when he deliberately ignores aspects of a movie just to make a joke.
I'm halfway through and this review is really lacking, even for Doug. He brings up "plot holes", that aren't even holes at all, like Xavier appearantly should be reading every single human mind he comes across to avoid traps, Nightcrawler teleporting outside of a plane is the same as teleporting inside buildings (where if he teleports into something he fucking dies) Or complains about storytelling methods that are industry standards (going from fast action scene to slow scene is a problem Doug???).
I'm watching his review and I'm like: Doug... What are you doing, man. This critique of yours is absolutely horrible.
@@TheBioshocksnake I have it queued up for later, but that's what i'm worried about he gets so hung up on pacing issues and gets so critical of minutiae he can't appreciate stylistic novelty until the end when he winds up forgiving all the problems and admits the movie still works... i love x2 and the idea behind jason's mutation... ripping the bandaid off later
You’re just reading in the review to much
The key thing with Wolverines claw would work. The key column is just a straight shot with grooves in it. So hes essentially just smoothing the grooves. You can do that with screw drivers too. It breaks the column so anyone can use it afterwards but, that's how it works.
I actually thought it was a special accessory to him as a kid😂😂.
Like the Batman car…wolverine car..
videogame logic taught me that much as a kid…
When Rogue was fumbling with the seat belt on the jet, isn't she just having trouble because of her gloves (trying to use a cloth surface to grip smooth metal)? That's the impression that I got, and it makes MUCH more sense than "the seat belt on our super high-tech jet is broken".
She was just too slow. Its not that the belt was stuck. He's nitpicking too much that he is fabricating shit
I hadn't caught that glove thing. I think you're right. That's an awesome detail.
Not only that but he complains about her not being able to fly but when she first came to the school she couldn’t fly even in the comics! She gained the ability to fly by absorbing somebody else’s powers and having it end up being permanent but her powers weren’t originally could touch people and kill them and absorb their powers if they had them and also superstrength and flying, Like she wasn’t the Death Touch Supergirl of the Xmen right out the fuckin gate, her original powers were just touching people and killing them/stealing their powers
Their security system is Wolverine. What better security do you need?
Apparently a better one since the Wolverine system didn't work that well.
Nova 1080 Considering he killed like, half their force and they only managed to capture, what, six kids out of the hundreds in there, I’d say it worked a lot better than it should have. Actually... Come to think of it, where did these other kids go? They get out with Colossus but what then? Never thought about it before...
I think he killed like 5 guys before getting emotionally paralyzed. Something he does a lot. The kids that escaped most;y did because of the older students. During this review, I was also wondering what happened to them. I don't remeber them saying anything about it.
They circumvented the primary security because of Magneto's intel.
@@firebird1080 They ran to the Deadpool movie.
I think that the scene where Magneto escapes is actually pretty badass
8L00DY R3G1M3 ok but what's the point of injecting the guard? There's already iron in the human body (any body so that matter). It's how hemoglobin is produced
@@floricel_112 but there is not enough iron in our blood to do what magneto did
@@floricel_112 she put an actual metal in his blood. The iron in blood was just a cheeky joke
It's almost elegant
@@floricel_112 It's a constituent of both hemoglobin and myoglobin, not how it's produced, and it's what makes oxygen bind to them both and why blood and meat are red (basically the same reason rust is red).
In a human body there is only 4g of Iron, probably wouldn't be enough for Magneto to do shit, being the reason why Mystique injected a clearly higher quantity.
I'm pretty sure Nightcrawler's fear of teleportation was actually explained in the movie. It's the classic teleportation problem. If he doesn't know the location, he could end up teleporting into something solid. Catching Rogue was easy as she was in freefall, as well as getting back on the plane since he knew the layout. He DOESN'T know the interior of the base (not in active memory anyway) so it carries much more risk.
If anything, the movie performs a bit of a foul because it doesn't address that when he teleports with other people, it debilitates him pretty heavily as he's been known to pass out from the strain.
9:30
Now this scene feels different, thanks Deadpool
"Even facebook has better security" and all facebook plataforms crashed today, coincidence? I think not.
Sorry, what?
walrusArmageddon whatsapp, facebook and instagram are working with a lot of problems, if even (for some people it doesn't even work)
NC is Prof X?!
napa modesto confirmed?
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10:32 so are we just not gonna talk about wolverine's x-phone
Totally waiting that too !! Haha
Never leave the mansion without it
I like your Gaim profile pic
Is that the X-Men equivalent of the Bat Credit Card?
Professor X: Anonymity is a mutant's first defence against the world's hostility. We must therefore all carry very distinctive looking X shaped phones that'll immediately give away that we're X-Men even more so than Cyclops does by walking around in public in his visor instead of his glasses.
I know that it's something popular to harp on with these movies but Flight, Super Strength, Super durability were never part of Rogue's original power set and were stolen from the person that didn't have her own movie until this year.
I understand and I'm sure he can out two and two together but why didn't you just say Captain Marvel or Ms. Marvel(which was her name at the time)
@@kannakamui2334 No reason I can think of really. Just the way I phrased it at the time. But yep, Ms. Marvel.
Every version of Rogue has had those powers from the start of her character though, and then it gets reveled later where she got them from. At this point they've become synonymous with Rogue so not giving them to her is odd. The only one I can remember that didn't have them from the start was Evolution: Rogue and that premiered years after this.
@@420mralucard I think it's probably a combination of factors, including the time period it was made, the fact that it was a movie and so relegating time to explaining how a teenager girl also got all these different powers besides her one mutation, and the fact that it would have made her pretty much unstoppable in the cinematic universe at that time would mean she would have been pointless to include in the plot they wanted otherwise. But yeah, as Evolution Rogue proves, you don't really need to have the extra superpowers to be interesting... she just wasn't interesting enough in the movie.
@@cassyblack3346
Yeah Evolution Rogue is awesome, I wish they gave that much character to this one. They should have at least given her the power she had to borrow other powers, it would have made her strong but not overpowered since she doesn't know how to use them fully and is on a time limit.
'storm couldn't have steered the water away?'
Storm controls the weather, but she doesn't have any control over water itself to my knowledge.
'Xavier couldn't lift the plane from inside'
I thought Xavier was only telepathic, not telekinetic?
She can generate tornados. Please don't tell me she can't push some water away.
@jonny j she could have used a huge gust of wind to push apart the water.
Not to mention Iceman is there as well. An Omega level mutant that could potentially manipulate the moisture in the atmosphere and usher in a new ice age. He could have made that lake his frozen B***H.
These are hilarious. Every movie (including the most beloved classics) have plot holes. It doesn't mean anything. X2 was a fantastic movie
she actually can control water, she commonly creates floods and controls them but yeah his Xavier comment was pretty stupid
18:00 Suddenly several of the female characters have the hots for Wolverine. It's almost as though he was played by Hugh Jackman, voted the world's hottest man or something ;)
Arthur Williams well there not wrong
Mystique is just one character.
@@jp3813 mystique who can transform to different women and jean gray.
@@austinlester842 Keyword is "transform", not take over their bodies.
@@jp3813 Meaning the women she transforms in to all have the hots for wolverine.
Xavier is ONLY a telepath, he does not (and I can’t stress this enough) have telekinetic powers in the slightest. Jean has both.
He does have limited telekinesis
Not enough to lift the x-jet
THANK YOU!
I remember I used to nerd rage every time I saw someone claim Wolverine’s mutant powers were his adamantium skeleton. I’d be like “God damnit his powers are his healing ability not his friggin adamantium you idiot! The adamantium claws is a side effect from an experiment done on him!!!!!!” But in recent years I’ve learned not to get so upset over fictional comic book characters with constantly changing story arcs depending on the many writers throughout the years.
Can jean do mind control like Xavier?
So… Dark Phoenix arrived at its reserved spot
Xmen may hate NSYNC but deadpool loved them.
Oh like you wouldn't tap Mystique. 😍
She is literally every guy's fantasy woman, because she can literally be every guy's fantasy.
Eventually every guy would do her when she's blue just for the experience.
Shes a tease.... Walking around naked the whole time
You'd have to be crazy to say you wouldn't.
Any sane, red-blooded heterosexual guy would do it with her. Actually, I'm convinced that Mystique may be capable of successfully seducing anybody regardless of their gender or sexual preference. ;)
Jean wanted to die.
I always thought it was strange, until I realised she feared her power (knowing she was unable to control it). She intended to die in that moment.
....Uh. Actually, that would certainly explain such a stupid escape plan.
@@manuelalbertoromero9528 ww the movie got dark quicker than i thought
But that’s still not made clear enough
Then why didn't she use a suicide method the would be effective at destroying every piece of brain matter,like a shot to the head?Striker's troops had plenty of guns.
But it was still a sad moment.
Who’s here after seeing Deadpool and Wolverine
Imma see in a few hours (as I’m writing this)
Me!
18:07, that’s not a spontaneous team-up at all. Pyro bragged that “you know those dangerous mutants you hear about? I’m the worst one” and incinerated police officers in an earlier scene of this movie. If anything, it’s a mystery why he didn’t already work for Magneto
Okay first, the Professor can NOT move things with his mind. Second, this movie has its flaws but it will always be one of my favorite X-Men movies. I did not realize this comment would cause so much anger. I've never read anything where he moved stuff with his mind. My bad. I still don't think he could move a plane.
Yes he actually can he just always gets shit writers that forget he can.
There's several instances where he has done it but for some reason people like you would prefer Xavier be weaker than he actually is.
he says in one comic that his telekinesis is strong enough to lift him just a few steps
That's odd! I would have sworn he stopped a bullet from killing a dude in the first movie!
Sami Rhili that wasn’t him, he stopped controlling toad and sabertooth but the bullet was magneto teasing xavier to get him to let him go
Lynnette Ott well aren’t you dumb
Alan Cummings is an amazing actor, his portrayal of Nightcrawler is one of the best performances in super hero movies to date.
Really? Are you serious?
TheCNotes1 yep.
In a world where we have had Chris Evans as Captain America, Robert Downey Jr. as Iron-Man, Ryan Reynolds as Deadpool, and Hugh Jackman as Wolverine, the greatest casting ever is a B-list actor essentially butchering one of the most nuanced and underappreciated of X-Men?
TheCNotes1 you’ve got to remember that this was before any of the MCU, this was all we had. Wesley Snipes as Blade is another one of those perfect casting choices that still holds up in Blades 1 & 2. Michael Duncan Clarke was pretty terrifying as Kingpin in the Daredevil Directors Cut. I could go on.
@@DanTheMan2150AD "Alan Cummings is an amazing actor, his portrayal of Nightcrawler is one of the best performances in super hero movies to date." " you’ve got to remember that this was before any of the MCU, this was all we had."
So which is it? One of the best to date, or one of the best before MCU? I don't understand the acclaim for Cummings as Nightcrawler, he did a decent enough job, but the character was forgettable, imo, just like whoever Wolverine fought in Stryker's lab.
This was the first X Men film I ever saw. Sure there are a few problems, but it's still a great entry. Also the scenes that have Xavier and Stryker's son is supposed to be slow to signify how hard Charles is fighting back.
Mine too
Solid 7.5/10. It would be 8 if it weren’t boring as shit.
When Xavier paused everyone all I could think about was how nobody could blink, their eyes must be so sore!
"Let it be known that X-Men hates N'SYNC." 😄😄
Brian Jules that line is great
Oh yeah, it's not like the Nostalgia Critic has never criticized "The Phantom Menace" for no reason.
Ugh Better not let Stryker know the X-men's main weakness is N'SYNC
*DING*
BACKSTREET BOYS FOR LIFE!!!!
-said by a completely heterosexual male
Brian Jules Stan Lee made one Boy Band into superheroes, and it wasn't N'Sync.
Dude, watch X-men Evolution. Rogue can't fly there either but is still plenty capable.
That's my favorite incarnation of her
Rogue got her flight abilities from absorbing another hero
That’s what I’m saying! He needs to review it!
I think Rogue was my favorite character in that show.
Hell Evolution's version of her even has a far more creative version of the "Danvers Solution" where instead of taking one person's gimmick she becomes a boiling pot of every power she's previously absorbed, and while also showing how this would affect her.
9:37 no I don’t think they do nowadays 😂
@@angel_in-black Maximum Effort!
"He could have picked up the plane from inside"
Since when is Xavier telekinetic? I thought he could mess with people's heads, never throw things with his mind.
Exactly; he can't. Doug just made a mistake
Edit: Or... maybe he can, just not a plane. Some people are saying Charles does have limited telekenesis, but writers for the comics either forget or ignore it
*GET TO HISTORY CLASS!!!!!!!*
X-MEN Month Continues Folks!!!!!
The Nightcrawler attack scene is one of the best action sequences I've ever seen
And surely one of the best opening scenes too
Fine, but X2 was mediocre and cliched. Actually, none of the X-Men movies were all that good. The Fox Kids cartoon was way better than the films.
@@RobbieStacks90 The slow pace definitely let X2 down quite a lot. I think Days of Future Past might be the best (excluding Logan).
@@RobbieStacks90 Yeah, the cartoon were Jean's only power was fainting, Wolverine's only power was Y7 one-liners and Jubilee's and Storm's only powers was being annoying. The cartoon sucked. It had an awesome intro and Rogue's sex appeal but nothing more. No character growth, nothing. The only X-Men cartoon that did justice to the characters was X-Men: Evolution.
None of the movies were good? Logan was nominated for an Oscar for its writing and X2, Days of Future Past, First Class and Deadpool are considered among the best CBMs of all time.
@@trustinfaith9778 X-Men Evolution was trash. You're just showing your youth if you feel that way. Smh....
I will say that I have four issues with this review.
One: It was pretty obvious from the start that Pyro was going to join Magneto. I don't think you should be claiming it was a surprise, unless you weren't paying attention.
Two: The opening fight scene and, yes, the airplane scene you keep referring to both imply, at least to me, ahead of time that Nightcrawler doesn't actually *need* to see where he's going to teleport there, because at least once in both scenes (though it's hard to tell in the fight scene, so I may be mistaken) he isn't looking at where he ends up. The exact wording of his explanation suggest this too. All he actually needs is a general idea of the direction and distance to the target point. He's just afraid (perhaps justifiably so) of ending up inside a solid object. When mind-controlled and when operating on reflex, i.e. when he isn't thinking about it, he pulls it off with no trouble. But this is mostly just my own theory; I don't know if anything else corroborates it.
Three: Xavier can't lift planes. His power is purely telepathic in nature. You really should know that.
Four: Not even a single mention of the many gratuitous boob shots of Mystique? I like boobs as much as anyone, but even I have to admit they went overboard. I mean, just look at 16:39 for ONE entirely unsubtle example. And not even a single joke about it? I'm disappointed.
But everything else, I'm with you on. I wouldn't call this the best X-Men movie at all - if Logan counts, I'd definitely pick that, otherwise I'd say probably Days of Future Past. Probably.
My favourite is First Class. But Logan is a very close 2nd. And I think I’d put Days of Future Past at 3rd.
Logan counts
the thing about nightcrawler teleporting out of the plane is that it was in the air, there was no chance that he could teleport into somthing dangerous, he teleported roughly where he thought she was and caught her, i do admit him teleporting back inside the plane is a stretch, but you could blame that on stress, people can do crazy things when they are under a lot of stress, in the facility, nightcrawler wasnt under any real stress, at least not in the same way as before, so he didnt think he could teleport into a room where he could easely accidently telleport into somthing.
Talk about a sequel that 'X'cels in every way possible
*slow clap*
Do you just sit and refresh till it uploads to comment....the video came out the same time you commented...
Ha ha!
Xcelent proof.
That was Xcruciating.
Ummmm, Prof X is a telepath, not a telekinetic
@I You think? What give you that idea? For the record I agree with you
He does have limited telekinesis
Lolz I just was thinking that too about him not being telekinetic.
IIRC he stops bullets in mid air in the first movie.
Ariaelyne no... that was magneto. Charles is one of the most powerful telepaths on the planet, but he doesn’t have telekinesis.
Has anyone told him Rogue gets her powers from Captain Marvel? Like, seriously, come on.
You are talking about the same guy who argued that Xavier could use telekinesis to lift the plane in place of Jean. This idiot dosen't know jack shit about x-men, he just saw that Rouge could fly in the intro to the x-men cartoon.
@@artur6912 very true
artur6912 He always was just a fan of the old animation series, nothing else. That’s why he doesn’t know this stuff. But he also ignored the stuff from the two movies as Xavier didn’t use any telekinesis in the movies ... ever. And that is really, really bad for a movie critic. On the plus side though: the nostalgia critic is a persona that is supposed to be nitpicking as hell. And there is also the fact that the movie may not be one of the really good X-men movies, but that is mainly due to boring plot and bad pacing, which offers not a lot of comedy material.
@@davidgantenbein9362 The animated series showed Rogue getting her powers by draining Captain Marvel. It came about midway through the show's run.
Guys, chill, he reviews visual media ONLY, he doesn’t care about the cannon of the comics for this review, it’s only the movies that matter for the review, not even the animated series really matters
X2 was hands down my favorite X-men movie
Nightcrawler is very politely asking somebody to leave in the church scene. He even uses a honorific :D "Sir/Madam go outside."
Just like Storm politely gestured in the last movie.
He's Nightcrawler; what do you expect? He'll even threaten to kill people like a gentleman. It's also 1 of the main reasons why all the ladies want to bang him.
Speaking German always sounds like you're threatening to vivisect someone's child alive with a cheese grater.
@@KairuHakubi It's more about the tone of voice and intonation to be honest. German can be very poetic, too. After all it was the native language of many philosophers and poets and they left their mark.
@@Alondro77 "Parmesan?"
"Nein, danke."
"Ist aber sehr lecker."
"Na gut, vielleicht ein bisschen"
"Sagen sie einfach stopp."
"Ja, das reicht dann, danke"
"Guten Appetit."
"Vielen Dank"
OMG I think the waiter just threatened to grate her child in half unless he could put cheese on her plate! :O
Xavier doesn’t have telikinesis,
storm can’t control running water, that’s not part of weather,
ice man is a kid and not that strong
But yeah jean could probably lift the plane from inside, but even if you say she couldn’t put so much force on the water without being next to it, nightcrawler could just teleport Jean away as soon as the plane got lifted
Storm has been shown to move running water in the comics before. Her powers control the water cycle via air pressure.
Plus Rogue can't fly or have super strength without stealing those from someone else (like Carol Danvers, for example).
@@jasonkelly1692 even if she couldn't control water she could of say cause millions of lightning bolts to strike the water turning it all in to plasma or something I mean even if that's a stretch I remember storms powers being kinda ridiculous
Xavier DOES have telekinesis.
She can't control water, she can only cause floods, torrential rains and snow. I'm pretty sure she has hydrokinesis.
Even as a kid Iceman was basically invincible.
I normally forget about this movie. Basically because nothing happens. All that happens is that Magneto is out of prison, Wolverine doesn’t have his dog tag, and Jean is underwater. Those are the only things that this movie amounts to and it could’ve all been an off screen. Except for Jean being underwater.
I seriouesly doubt you're an X-men fan if you think Xavier has Telekinesis.
If he did, he would be flying everywhere instead of being confined to a wheelchair.
Charles' telepathy allows him to project and read thoughts, locate the position of specific minds, control others' perceptions and, if desired, brainwash them. He is also a low-level telekinetic, able to move objects with his mind.
He does in some version have low-level telekinesis, not enough to move a plane obviously but it does exist.
Honestly with so many versions of these characters its not hard to forget which version can do what.
Movie suggestions
1. Barnyard
2. "Damned" from Impractical Jokers
3. Punisher (1989)
4. Full reviews of Shark Tale, Over the Hedge, and Bee Movie
5. Hellboy (in preparation for the new movie)
Night raptor he did 90s Tmnt already
Astro Boy (2009).
Great Panda Adventure, more bear jokes
@DrKlRd What?
ASOUE (2004)
That part when Nightcrawler was teleporting through the White House kicking ass was the best part of this movie.
That's the Quicksilver scene back then (no not that Age of Ultron one)
2:34 (*sees reviews for Dark Phoenix) Well it's confirmed, Nostalgia Critic can predict bad movies of the future. He predicted Fant4stic, now this.
He also predicted Transformers 5!
We all predicted that.
Kids shows have unlikeable leaders because no one likes a leader. Everyone likes the comic relief/rebel.
THIS MOVIE WAS AMAZING TO 12 YEAR OLD ME. and honestly i think its still holds up really well.
na this movie is terrible.
Diurno MX Doug Walker didn’t say that, either. Wait, were u trying to agree with Doug?
In the UK, it's just X-Men 2. Lucky us.
9:23 Apparently, Wolverine secretly is Inspector Gadget
7:14 "This isn't over, Bears!" in the bottom right XD
The Country Bears in a nutshell.
Go on CZcams.
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Edit OMG 86 likes that is the the most I have ever had thanks!
lol thats what i did!
You maniac! The data will burnt out. I kow it. that's what i did when he did the Batman Forever review. i burned almost half of my data!
*Gives you unlimited data*
"starts a car with his claw. how the hell does that even work?"
well you see nostalgia critic.. if you shove something metal hard enough into the key slot in the ignition it'll break the tumblers allowing the ignition to turn without the need for a key.... but than i'm proud of my education in stuff other than pedantic movie trivia
Hell, I didn't even need education. I've had enough keys and locks to know how they work.
heh i was being mostly sarcastic.. but yeah pretty much if you want to hardwire a car.. don't try to rub wires togather.. just shove a pocket knife in the ignition key hole. it'll do the job just fine
"Now it's a Singer film." Well played!
Before we all found out what a jackass he is 🙄
You actually can start a car with a blade, but lt's certainly not that easy or quick.
Which is why I'm glad this isn't a movie inspired by true events, and probably a movie that takes place in a fictional, comic book -esque world, or somethin to that extent .....
"Thats not how iron in the body works!"
Yeah except it was a pun, the actual metal came from mystique injecting the guy while at the bar.....Kind of a very weird miss
He acknowledge the iron injection previously. I assume that what he meant was that iron being injected directly into someone's bloodstream would result in said person's death. Toxic doses of iron are above 10mg/kg/day IF ingested, which would result in levels above 300 µg/dL in bloodstream. Here Mystique outright injected a big fat syringe of it right into his blood.
@@lezard2102 I'm sure she didn't just inject iron. It was most likely a solution. Granted, this is not stated in the film, but neither is the opposite.
@@Dreadjaws even if it was a solution, Magneto then rips enough iron to make 3 marble sized balls. The severe toxic dose of iron on a full grown man with an average of 5 L of blood would be 15000 µg, not even enough iron to make the shank of a needle.
Nobody in this thread seems to mention that the dude went through a metal detector a few minutes prior. He should’ve set that machine off before Eric had a chance to pull the iron out.
She should have shot him 3 times, Magneto could do the same thing with 3 bullets. Probably trying to keep that PG rating.
Hugh Jackman is the only man who could play a live action wolverine
Maybe Tom Hardy
Allen White big lipped venom puppet bitch boy? For my wolverine? He could never
Jason Mamosa might be capable of it. He definitely has the muscle mass and manliness for it
MisterXenomorph Wolverine is supposed to be short not 6’7 they gotta stop that
If this was made forty years ago and he hit the gym, Jack Nicholson could have pulled it off PERFECTLY.
Man have we really had a turn around where people are now hating on the OG X-Men trilogy. Yes the third is very lackluster (but still a decent conclusion to the trilogy) but these films despite there faults and flaws were so important to helping people take comic book movies seriously. Yes you have Blade, but that film is always gonna be held back by people's low view on horror films.
The OG X-Men trilogy (especially the second film) still hold up pretty damn well even today.
Nah, it was trash. Thank god for the MCU reboot
@@psychobillynumbnuts1 atleast x-men felt like actual films and not commercials
No, they really don't.
You know night crawler could of teleported outside the plan, see where rouge went, teleported to her and used his memory of the plane to teleport back
'But I have to SEE where I am going"...blah, blah, blah. Doug is right. It was a stupid scene.
@@NavySharkz He had specified in an earlier scene that he teleports where he can see because he's afraid of re-integrating into a wall or other solid object. It's not that he can't; it's that he's afraid of what can happen.
Best Xmen movie
Logan
Worst xmen movie
X-men origins wolverine
Wolverine given and taketh away.
And the one about the Japan? Yeah, lets not dwell on mediocrity))
Id argue apocalypse is the worst
X-men origins:Wolverine is so bad i like to forget it exists and sometimes do
@@SuperFlawless2010 the one in japan was actually great. unfotunately the third act sucked
Doug, I thought you knew comics. Rogue can fly because she absorbed Ms Marvel (of all characters) powers! You can stop picking that bone now, it's getting old.
Yeah, I know a lot of people know Rogue because of the cartoon, but still ...
@@CT68 I haven't watched it in ages but I recall them showing when that happened in the cartoon.
Thank you.
Yes but since the films are their own universe they could have given her the extra powers she's most well known for.
jean-francois labelle Yeah but the whole “Even he hates what they did to Rogue” joke was funny, c’mon
19:26, I can understand Cyclops and maybe Fred being on there, but what's wrong with the other leaders, like Leonardo?
That moment where Pyro turns the radio on to the song "Bye Bye Bye" and Wolverine reacts with disgust has new significance in Deadpool & Wolverine.
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10:56 oh whatever dude! That scene was badass! Nothing says I own this room like Ian McKellen Crossing his arms all standing on one of those Segway things.
11:39 I love how Wolverine’s reaction to getting shot is just “Oof!” He didn’t even really react, but it’s funnier this way
Cyclops doesn't have any speed feats in any media, you want him to dodge a pointblank shot? I mean you usually reach a bit but that was a lunge.
she literally walked towards him staring at him obviously holding something in her hand and then slowly lifted her hand and held the gun in place to aim at him for like a second before shooting... and it was edited to look like Cyclops was looking at her (or somewhere around her direction) the whole time... seems like a pretty fair point to callout
Cyclops is bad in these movies, he’s an Asshole in the first movie, gets knocked out for an hour in this movie, and dies in the third one.
@@loreaver3882 Since when is Cyclops not an asshole? He has ALWAYS been like that in the comics.
How is Cyclops an asshole? Also, he is beloved by comic book readers.
www.bleedingcool.com/2018/10/01/marvel-editor-jordan-white-confirms-cyclops-is-the-best-x-man-for-xmenmonday/
I'd expect him to at least try. In the movie he just sorta takes it and barely registers the threat.
I can prove I am the BIGGEST NERD EVER:
In the X-Men animated series, right before Magneto offers to bust him out, Beast was in prison reading "Animal Farm". I wonder if there is a connection there.
The guard asked Beast if he had any relatives in the book.
Boom. Now I'm an even bigger X-Men nerd.
FIGHT! FIGHT! FIGHT! FIGHT! FIGHT!
@@SynthApprentice and the Beast was hanging upside down.
boom shaka laka!
“The school has no security system”
Logan is the security system and 5:33 critic this is a movie actors constantly play roles younger and older than them
But then the security system was busy on an alcohol break. Lol
DarkEclipse23 well Logan can’t get drunk because of his healing factor
@@masonyoung7834 Even so,it was way too lenient to put just one men ,who has absolutely no records in both education and childcare ,in charge, without any other support or whatsoever at all, of a school filled with kids of all ages,mutants to booot.I love this movie but this is one point I can't stomach since first time I watched.This make professor X irresponsible not only as a wise character but also as a proper school principle.
@@myatthu7165I highly doubt police officers in schools know anything about education or much about child care, and Logan’s just supposed to look after them for the night
@@DarkEclipse23 Logan also wasn’t drinking beer he drinking soda
9:32 the x-men may have hated it but Deadpool loves it
Magneto isn’t yelling ‘you should have killed me when you had the chance’ at Striker’s men in the prison, he’s directing it at Charles - that he was too much of a risk to have been left alive in the first place
this guy don’t really know shit... you could tell by his unreasonable complaints about the movie.
you know the movie did something right when everybody constantly still wishes that nightcrawler comes back
Well he was the best part
Actually, Mystique and Wolverine have had a history of flirtation that goes back to the old west in 616 canon
Yeah, but it wasn’t that well-established in the films up till that point. I think that’s the real critique here.
@@geoffreyrichards6079 even if it wasn't established it's a nice Easter egg for fans
"Have you ever tried... not being a mutant?" I guarantee a mom asked her gay kid the same thing
Not how it works, guys
And I remember seeing Jean die when I was a kid and even then I thought, "wait, why is she doing that? She should move"
I used to watch this movie all the time. I was so obsessed with nightcrawler that I used to try and re-create the opening scene in my dads office
Bad english warning!
I used rubber bands over my socks to have similar feet like him, and I tugged two middle fingers of my gloves inside it to have only three fingers when using them, like, having two fingers where only one should be, etc. (That's not what she/he said.)
No. Xavier could not have lifted the plane from inside.
or from the outside.
Seriously Doug, when has Charles EVER shown to be even an amateur telekinetic?
@@JohnEusebioToronto it also bugs me that either Doug has no idea what the Phoenix Entity is called, or he's trolling us by calling it "The Firebird". Yes, technically a phoenix is a "firebird". "The Firebird", however, sounds like a description of something where the concept was not quite understood.
He has had powerful telekinetic abilities in some comics.
He's got telekinesis in some comics so I don't blame his confusion
To those of you claiming that Xavier has exhibited TK in the comics, I ask you WHEN LAST? Professor X has by and large been portrayed as exclusively telepathic. The Ultimate Comics made him a low-level telekinetic, but in the mainstream (Earth 616) Marvel universe, when was the last time you saw Professor X move something with his mind? The Marvel handbook describes him as a just telepath, all the cartoons portray him as a just telepath, and this is clearly because, by now, it's been accepted that that's all he is. Regardless of all this, THE MOVIES THEMSELVES establish him as a telepath, so it really doesn't matter what people *think* they may have seen in the comics. Rogue has/had super strength and flight in the comics. Should we wonder why she didn't _physically lift the X-Jet into the air_ to save them all? *No* . Because the movies established that their version of Rogue has only her original powers and that's what we're working with.
9:32 so they foreshadowed Deadpool and Wolverine’s beginning
I still think this is the BEST X-Men movie! I even like the name X2 X-men United. Also, the Opening Nightcrawler scene IS the best X-Men scene EVER!!
So, Rogue originally couldn't fly until she ran into Ms. Marvel (the current Captain Marvel) afterwards Rogue just has all the same powers as Captain Marvel plus, I think don't quote me, her Power Absorption mutation
And now that C(r)aptain Marvel is out, they should bring back Rogue to suck her dry and leave her a hollow husk. Oh wait, she is that already.
Except in the age of apocalypse timeline where she took polaris’ powers.
Much like Spider-Man 2, the second movie of this trilogy still holds up. This really started a trend of "second movie is the best" that a lot of franchises had going on for many years.
I actually like the first Spider-Man more. The whole "no more Spider-Man" story doesn't work very well, when you have only seen him in one film, and the whole "Octavius is controlled by his tentacles" thing is bullshit, this is a Dr. Connors thing. Still fine movie, though.
For me it started by T2 Judgment Day
@@InsidiousOne I think the Raimi films even the first one really hammered in the themes of the early Lee/Ditko and Lee/Romita stories that being Spider-Man comes at a great cost for Peter Parker, the ending to the first movie especially "my gift, my curse...I'm Spider-Man!" so to have in the second movie it all come to a boiling point worked in my opinion. Doc Ock in media is often also driven mad after bonding to his tentacles, most recently seen in the PS4 game, this was just the first time the A.I. part of it was used in the explanation.
Not to mention Shrek 2, objectively the best Shrek movie
Pretty sure that isn't the movie which started the "second is best" trend
Do "Nostalgia Critic: Tom & Jerry in The Fast and The Furry", please!!!!
He should also do their Magic Ring movie too
11:00 - 11:18 Wait they give him that but not the colored costumes for everyone in this trilogy?! yeah that makes sense.