Recording on a 1970's Tape Machine

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  • čas přidán 8. 05. 2018
  • Let's party like it's 1976!
    Magnetic tape started being used for sound recording in 1930 and was the dominant way audio was recorded for the majority of recording history. In this video we're exploring what the process was like in the 1970's with this 2 inch, 16 track, reel to reel tape machine previously owned by country music star Merle Haggard.
    This is the first time I've every recorded to tape. Outside of some small cassette recorders I had as a kid. Outside of that and the wax cylinder video we shot earlier this year, I've only ever recorded with a digital system.
    Going into a studio to track on this machine really puts into perspective how much more prepared musicians had to be at the time. There's very little editing if any that can be done to your performance and each take eats up precious time and real estate on the medium.
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  • @robscallon
    @robscallon  Před 6 lety +1565

    Sorry about the reupload everybody. Had some weird technical trouble Monday using the mobile app and had to hit the restart button on this one unfortunately.
    Hope you enjoy the video!
    ...especially the Mr. Wibblespoon feature. That man does NOT come cheap. Charges per syllable...
    Ugh...
    Cheers!

  • @flipnap2112
    @flipnap2112 Před 4 lety +1529

    people in the 70's: "Man I wish I could do this all on a computer!"
    people in the 2000's "Man I wish do all of this on tape machine"

    • @Deraco1
      @Deraco1 Před 4 lety +6

      haha right?

    • @joshmoore9712
      @joshmoore9712 Před 4 lety +24

      Actually it was more of a happy accident. Up until about 1977 digital sampling was in the bowels of Bell Labs. Very expensive and shit quality. :p

    • @nichtimmer9134
      @nichtimmer9134 Před 4 lety

      @TheJahkal i search wachs zylinder ...will used it for dirty 20s 30s records ;)

    • @AnodyneHipsterInfluencer
      @AnodyneHipsterInfluencer Před 4 lety +34

      Like most things in the 1970's... they were wrong. Idc what people say, acoustic drums (and most percussion instruments) in particular sound better to my ears recorded to magnetic tape at high speed. The lower midrange "thump." I've yet to hear a plugin that accurately recreates that. I also prefer mixes done on analog mixing desks and compressors. Maybe there is a little "hiss" but to me it's like the sound of breathing and it fades into the mix. I believe the ideal studios have 2 inch reels and a "Pro Tools" rig integrated to get the best of both worlds.

    • @nichtimmer9134
      @nichtimmer9134 Před 4 lety +11

      @@AnodyneHipsterInfluencer a real pro studio mast can record 100% analog!, mic - tape - vinyl! ...digi is Standard, but analoge not in all studios! A good studio can work with both World's! Completely to 100% (ana or digi) or mixed with both! Thats a Studio!, for me, a studio that can not record on tape, is not a real studio!, analoge is a good technic, its a naturaly electric way to record! Love both, but for me, analog must be standard! ...why should i pay tousend's of €/$ for a digi recording in a studio?, that can made every one now at home on a pro level if he made it good! But analoge have not every man at home! (I have ;) ...pro tape maschines! 16 track on 1" and love thay)

  • @giardi98
    @giardi98 Před 6 lety +1931

    >i'm going to record something simple
    >10 attempts to record a track
    Every normal musician recording session ever

    • @FrStProductions
      @FrStProductions Před 6 lety +85

      Sometimes it seems harder to just play the same 3 chord progression perfectly 100 times.

    • @giardi98
      @giardi98 Před 6 lety +2

      FrStProductions of course, I know that, I recorded some stuff myself

    • @SlyHikari03
      @SlyHikari03 Před 6 lety +1

      Garden true that

    • @Franz.
      @Franz. Před 6 lety +26

      Even random non serious "i just wanna hear what I sound like" recordings can have so many takes

    • @giardi98
      @giardi98 Před 6 lety

      xX_Gabe_Xx I don't know if you people are getting the fact that I was joking on something I can relate to since I play guitar as well

  • @GandalfGreyhame
    @GandalfGreyhame Před 4 lety +744

    Imagine being a Prog band in the 1970s recording a complex 20 minute song with this equipment

    • @ayra_c3781
      @ayra_c3781 Před 4 lety +86

      take that pink floyd

    • @lesterpaul9657
      @lesterpaul9657 Před 4 lety +46

      If your music needs more than 16 tracks there is something wrong with your music.

    • @user-mp7fn4zc9r
      @user-mp7fn4zc9r Před 4 lety +21

      @@lesterpaul9657 if your music needs more you just record solo on back vocal tracks and so on and finaly your tape becomes so thin

    • @patton303
      @patton303 Před 4 lety +11

      I did it in the 80’s.

    • @jetpackredman687
      @jetpackredman687 Před 4 lety +7

      thats all what i was thinking when i first listened to close to the edge

  • @OhNitsuj
    @OhNitsuj Před 4 lety +1622

    recorded on tape, converted to mp3 and compressed for youtube.

    • @castlehill6717
      @castlehill6717 Před 4 lety +118

      Justin Ho In all seriousness, it was guaranteed converted to wav or another lossless and then compressed for youtube. The CZcams compression absolutely effects the quality, but people act like they cant hear the difference between certain elements in a shootout when they are clearly still there (if you have a good enough ear).

    • @MattHartke
      @MattHartke Před 4 lety +21

      Plus on a modern slate mic

    • @ioncrops
      @ioncrops Před 4 lety +25

      still sounds hella good

    • @benkleschinsky
      @benkleschinsky Před 4 lety +16

      It really is tape saturation. It's the analog mastering.

    • @fiftyfuckingfeet
      @fiftyfuckingfeet Před 4 lety +14

      It's entirely possible to upload lossless audio to CZcams. When I do it I convert the audio to flac and mux it with MKVToolNix GUI. CZcams is not picky about formats at all, they'll accept almost anything. If you are watching on a PC you can right click on the video then click stats for nerds. The best case scenario is that it says opus 251 for the audio. Yes that's a lossy compressed format of course but if it's lossless->lossy it's going to be a good encode and you will get the best possible sound out of it.

  • @RobScallon2
    @RobScallon2 Před 6 lety +1485

    Wibblespoon comin’ in hot!

    • @MetaITurtle
      @MetaITurtle Před 6 lety

      Have you ever owned a Gibson Explorer ?

    • @DrumWild
      @DrumWild Před 6 lety +13

      Imma Google it.

    • @TheDarkMessiah
      @TheDarkMessiah Před 6 lety +3

      So is Clinton the Bill being hailed in your rocket league song?

    • @SixxxStringSultan
      @SixxxStringSultan Před 6 lety

      What a set of pipes!! I've heard rumors that he keeps full coverage insurance on his larynx!

    • @jackm7933
      @jackm7933 Před 6 lety +1

      333rd like. Am I special?

  • @suubwayrocker
    @suubwayrocker Před 4 lety +279

    Just imagine bands like Yes, King Crimson, Pink Floyd, Jethro Tull, EM&L, etc... all Prog Band with 15-20 minutes songs recording in this Tapes. The work they did was just amazing!

    • @zachariahadams
      @zachariahadams Před 3 lety +5

      The reason aqualung has some serious recordings issues.

    • @bluekai9577
      @bluekai9577 Před 2 měsíci +1

      Don’t forget about Rush!

  • @JohnMorris-ge6hq
    @JohnMorris-ge6hq Před 4 lety +143

    Half inch 3 track - 1957.
    Half inch 4 track - 1960
    1 inch 8 track - 1966 (Scully 284-8)
    1 inch 12 track - 1967 (Scully 284-12)
    2 inch 16 and 24 track - 1969
    2 inch 32 and 40 track - 1973
    (Only Stephens made a 2 inch 40 multitrack.)
    In 1979 MCI came out with the world's first 3 inch 32 track machine. Didn't work. It never went into production.
    In 1979 Mitsubishi came out with the world's first DASH digital multitrack. It recorded 24 tracks of 16 bit / 50 khz PCM On half inch dash tape. It ran at 45 ips.
    In 1981 Sony came out with the DASH
    3324. 24 tracks of 16/48 on 1/2 inch tape. It cost $250 000 USD.
    - Mitsubishi brought out their X-800. That is 32 tracks of 16/48 on 1 inch DASH tape.
    - in 1988 Sony introduced their new DASH 3348. That is 48 tracks of 16/48 on 1/2 inch DASH tape.
    - In the 90's both Sony and Mitsubishi brought out their new high definition DASH multitracks:
    Sony 3348HR: 48 tracks of 24/48 on 1/2 inch DASH tape. (Early 90's)
    Mitsubishi X-850: 32 tracks of 24/96 on 1 inch DASH tape. (Late 90s)
    In 1995 the ADAT was released. This digital recording method was RDAT and not DASH. In other words the heads were mounted in a drum that span hundreds of revolutions per minute over slow moving video tape. Instead of the DASH format which was tape running at high speed over stationary heads.
    ADAT used S-VHS and later High 8mm tape to record 8 tracks of PCM 16/48. And later 20/48 but at reduced recording times.
    At $3000 each (later the price would drop to just under $2000) you could have 48 tracks or PCM 16/48 for $21 000 US including controller plus tax. As opposed to $250 000 for one Sony 3348A. You could synchronize up to 16 ADATs for a total of 128 tracks!
    One of the first projects on ADAT was JAGGED LITTLE PILL.
    - The professional industry stopped making analog multitracks and half track recorders after 1995.
    2000 - Recording to computer via Pro Tools became the norm.
    2006 - Stopped making DASH tape.

    • @rayrecordings
      @rayrecordings Před 3 lety +4

      Very nice, all true. I can add , early 90’s:
      Akai Adam system 12 track on video8 tapes. 16 bit. Very expensive.Amazing sound ( mitsubishi converters).
      Tascam DA88 / Da38 system ( mid 90’s) 16 bit on videoHi8, and then DA98 (24 bit). Very convenient and reliable. Sounding better then Adats.
      Then a number of Hard Disk recorders through the early 2000’s ( Radar, Akai, Tascam, etc) to finally succumb to the power of Pro Tools. 2003/2004 marked the ultimate death of hard disk recording.

    • @ltrecords4500
      @ltrecords4500 Před 2 lety +1

      We bought a Studer A827 2″ 24 Track Gold Edition early 2005 from the last Willi Studer run before they closed.We always heard about the term " The Industry's Roll Royce " and we were all blown out by the sound of this machine.Today sits in a collector 's state some where in Nashville after we decided to go all digital and sold it.
      Now incredibly we are buying Mara Machines (refurbished MCI) and going back to analogue.Not long ago I came across one in Reverb that was selling for around the same price we got ours back in the day.

    • @JeffyG
      @JeffyG Před 2 lety

      Thanks for posting this 👍 These are the dates and tech I remember. I recently converted some pre-1995 4 track demo tapes to digital. The same year I have Logic/eMagic projects from a G4 MacBook, so that must have been the big transition.

    • @nebstaism
      @nebstaism Před rokem

      Which sounded the best ?

    • @judsonsnell
      @judsonsnell Před rokem +2

      @@nebstaism The one with the best engineers, mics, pres, and techniques. I've heard incredible albums made with less-than-stellar stuff like adats and Yamaha 02R's... and horrible records made on Neves/Studers. The recording medium is just that... it's playing back what you feed it. Is tape inherently better? I dunno... define "better". DAW's let you move at the speed of creativity and have certainly put 'red light syndrome' in the back seat since people tend to use $300/hr studios less. But yeah, a Studer a820 fed by an API? It'll give you an edge that plugins still have yet to close that final 5% of. Problem is, we're streaming 192kbps through crummy speakers these days... much harder to pick up on the nuance in the end market (who are mostly listening to hyper-limited sample collages and robo-tune vocals).

  • @donniedarko444
    @donniedarko444 Před 6 lety +80

    This guys studio is absolutely immaculate. Everything is in pristine condition. Not a speck of dust that I can see. And the cleanliness of his layout and effectiveness of his techniques is apparent in everything he does. Very impressed with his work.

  • @rockrollinnolan8521
    @rockrollinnolan8521 Před 6 lety +532

    Dear Logic Pro X,
    I'm sorry for all the times I got mad at you. I just realized I'm really lucky to have you, and that you've helped out a lot and made my life much, much, easier. Thanks. I love you.

    • @Wizardofgosz
      @Wizardofgosz Před 6 lety +3

      What makes you say that?

    • @amyjenee
      @amyjenee Před 6 lety +1

      literally same

    • @Wizardofgosz
      @Wizardofgosz Před 6 lety

      Who are you replying to?

    • @Wizardofgosz
      @Wizardofgosz Před 6 lety +16

      I would rather record on tape nearly all of the time. It really would depend on the project, but unless the project required something crazy, that a DAW would simplify, I would rather record on tape. My friends do basics and then tell me they have to spend hours editing the drums, and I'm like WHAT FOR? I've never tracked drums on tape and wished I could micro-edit the shit out of them.

    • @Wizardofgosz
      @Wizardofgosz Před 6 lety +6

      And of course, this is all being said by people who have probably never even been IN the same room as a tape machine, let alone used one.

  • @AdamDallas
    @AdamDallas Před 4 lety +42

    I love the permanence of tape. It's an actual performance that can't really be adjusted. The fact that analog is the direct transformation from vibrations into voltages fascinates me. Of course I really see the convenience of DAW's and the cost reasons, but it does make me sad that tape did fade out, it's an art form and it's just so honest and real. Get it right or don't do it at all.

  • @pearlmax
    @pearlmax Před 4 lety +212

    Bill Clinton: "I have never been to that man's house".

  • @RudyAyoub
    @RudyAyoub Před 6 lety +400

    Lies. Nothing about Bill going to your house

    • @m1chacha
      @m1chacha Před 3 lety +5

      Exactly, I googled it and only got the song.

    • @benjefferson
      @benjefferson Před 3 lety +4

      rudy I love you

    • @RudyAyoub
      @RudyAyoub Před 3 lety +9

      benja love u too

    • @daev255
      @daev255 Před 3 lety +1

      You are verified so imma pretend I know who you are

    • @fedsavi
      @fedsavi Před 3 lety +1

      @@daev255 oh go on he’s the edgy guitar guy

  • @KerryCronic
    @KerryCronic Před 6 lety +353

    Ah the good ol tape machine.

  • @SDH2023
    @SDH2023 Před 4 lety +84

    This brings back memories. Working with tape machines tends to expose all the fake talent. Yup, ya gotta play and get it right. No excuses.

  • @saml.williams6321
    @saml.williams6321 Před 4 lety +11

    I grew up listening to Oldies and it literally blows my mind that all of my favorite songs I know and love were recorded this way... and some even using less tracks then 16.... but I’m glad and thankful for today’s modern technology where we can get a close enough tape sound using plugins and our computers.

    • @LegendaryRadioJock
      @LegendaryRadioJock Před 3 lety +4

      You will NEVER get true tape sound out of digital recording.

  • @shimojason
    @shimojason Před 6 lety +123

    For a second there, I thought I went back in time.

  • @BBayjay
    @BBayjay Před 6 lety +275

    THIS RECORDING IS SO WARM. Sounds nothing like your other songs!

  • @Joe-hm1zk
    @Joe-hm1zk Před 6 lety +155

    God that tape sounds fantastic. I don't even care how silly the song is, that sounds amazing.

    • @_JoeMomma
      @_JoeMomma Před 3 lety +8

      its super crisp sounding like damn

    • @enasksenos
      @enasksenos Před 3 lety +3

      It is way different in person. In a good way

    • @theunknown9437
      @theunknown9437 Před 2 lety

      That’s why I love recording to tape

  • @DaveRucci
    @DaveRucci Před 6 lety +352

    And now we know how the Beatles came up w cool backwards tape shit... being high as a kite helped.

    • @the_question
      @the_question Před 6 lety +10

      i mean backwards shit has never been something difficult to come up with

    • @DaveRucci
      @DaveRucci Před 6 lety +40

      The Question says someone probably born in the post 2000 era.

    • @Slayr.
      @Slayr. Před 6 lety +10

      Pretty sure Jimi Hendrix did it before them.

    • @erichendrix1602
      @erichendrix1602 Před 6 lety

      PotatoDroid 97 Wasn’t Rain Song by Zeppelin?

    • @erichendrix1602
      @erichendrix1602 Před 6 lety

      PotatoDroid 97 Huh. The more you know I guess

  • @sunforged1662
    @sunforged1662 Před 6 lety +301

    I like how music sounds when it's recorded in analog

    • @wupme
      @wupme Před 6 lety +38

      Yeah but to really use the advantages of analog recording the entire signal chain, up to your speakers, needs to be analog.
      Otherwise you wasted a lot of money in my opinion. Because as soon as you go Digital, you will lose some harmonics.

    • @chameleonedm
      @chameleonedm Před 6 lety +36

      Probably because it doesn't really provide a benefit

    • @7xppgngrmj22jhx7enubvnw5grndiy
      @7xppgngrmj22jhx7enubvnw5grndiy Před 6 lety +20

      Wupme: you have no clue, sorry

    • @sunforged1662
      @sunforged1662 Před 6 lety +13

      Actually the thing I enjoy is probably the old recording equipment. I like the sound of stuff like Black Sabbath and Saxon; it's most likely the recording equipment.

    • @chameleonedm
      @chameleonedm Před 6 lety +11

      I would argue it is much more about the artists...?

  • @HankCoffey
    @HankCoffey Před 6 lety +491

    That 2 inch tape sounds pretty warm man 🐻👍

    • @marklr5716
      @marklr5716 Před 6 lety +19

      doesnt it.. it sounds so nice...

    • @BigBoy4004
      @BigBoy4004 Před 6 lety +7

      So, it is not just me noticing it. Cool!

    • @smallenginedude71
      @smallenginedude71 Před 6 lety +18

      Now play it through a tube amplifier.

    • @michaelbianchi22
      @michaelbianchi22 Před 6 lety +10

      I know. Makes it sound richer.

    • @leonardsullivan
      @leonardsullivan Před 5 lety +9

      @Philip Meredith
      I feel that, you should invest in some side plugins to bring back alot of that good stuff from tape!
      There are some really amazing pre-amp, compressor, and Analog Tape Deck plugins that are so good you cant tell yhe difference.
      Literally, they were designed in cahoots with the people who built the equipment and they couldn't tell the difference in a blind test!
      Check out some of the trailer/introduction videos for the Universal Audio Plugins.
      Watch the videos for their:
      ● Neve Pre-Amps
      ● Teletronix LA-2A Leveling Amplifier (Compressor)
      ...and for that sweet-ass Tape warmth and thickness...
      ● Studer A800 Multichannel Tape Recorder
      ● Ampex ATR-102 Mastering Tape Recorder
      NOW those are ALL expensive, no joke expensive.
      BUT the are extremely top of the line and will truly, no joke, give you what you thought you lost! Instantly.
      For more affordable and still absolutely fantastic, check out the plugins by WAVES.
      Here are two you can look up and they are each only like $30-$40!!!
      ● WAVES KRAMER Master Tape.
      ● WAVES J37 Tape Saturation.
      sonicscoop.com/2018/03/14/best-tape-saturation-plugins-market/2/
      Have fun man, no joke, this is what you have been searching for and thought you would never have again!
      You can thank me later! 😉

  • @Sachin-Music
    @Sachin-Music Před 4 lety +54

    No Digital Machine Beat this Granpa

  • @dacasman
    @dacasman Před 8 měsíci +1

    Its been 5 years but every time somebody says "google it" to me, this song immediately plays in my head.

  • @jaggass
    @jaggass Před 3 lety +27

    To this day the Foo Fighters still use 2'' tape and a 24 track tape machine and then transfer it to Logic Pro.

    • @lordberly
      @lordberly Před 2 lety

      @The SNES Man Satyricon self-titled album also recorded that way

  • @AlexBallMusic
    @AlexBallMusic Před 6 lety +353

    Really interesting series this. Enjoying it.
    The first few recordings I did in the 90s were to tape, no computer in sight. Then this new fangled thing called "Pro Tools" cropped up everywhere. 😀
    Remember how difficult it was to get an entire drum take without a single slip and also having to plan out exactly what you were doing first and how that related to the tracks available. Would be fun to try it again after years of digital.

    • @maddog3902
      @maddog3902 Před 6 lety +26

      Alex Ball it was almost like you needed to know your music before recording it..

    • @AlexBallMusic
      @AlexBallMusic Před 6 lety +4

      Mad Dogg Haha, yes exactly!!

    • @DrumWild
      @DrumWild Před 6 lety +5

      Tom Scholz edited drums the hard way with tape. Total madness.
      czcams.com/video/vAnzSBoZV6I/video.htmlm32s

    • @Reyna_pnw
      @Reyna_pnw Před 6 lety +2

      Duuuuude fucking same these videos are my life

    • @AlexBallMusic
      @AlexBallMusic Před 6 lety

      Crickey! I can do that in a DAW, but with tape, a blade and some chalk - a whole other level! I doth my cap.

  • @responsibleparty
    @responsibleparty Před 4 lety +16

    I worked as an intern in the 70s at a studio that had a 2" 16-track recorder. They started with an 8-track, which the owner mortgaged his house to buy. Near the end, they had to upgrade to a 24 track as that became the norm (same tape size).

  • @SpectreSoundStudios
    @SpectreSoundStudios Před 6 lety +116

    I really don't miss the tape days at all.

    • @dathunderman4
      @dathunderman4 Před 3 lety +11

      @You're fake and gay the utility is romanticized, but the sound is not. So many of popular songs today try and emulate the analog sound from the 70s.

    • @MrStupidHead
      @MrStupidHead Před 3 lety +6

      you can see how hard it was to make a record. to get it all perfect and sound big and sound like a record. PART, (not all) of that old record sound, was in just how many people and how much time went into the making of a record. conversely, part of why modern music is not always compelling is because there are simply not the man hours and musicianship going into the recordings. Digital, with 30 players, and 4 months of paid for studio time, and the worlds crack musicians - we'd have some good sounding stuff right now. But who is doing that? Nobody. That kind of investment makes a indie movie these days. Not 8 songs.

    • @SamHarrisonMusic
      @SamHarrisonMusic Před 3 lety +1

      It doesn't make life easier for engineers, but I've carried out blind tests between 172.8k digital and Sculy 280 8-Track tape, and there's a reason why I'd still rather work to tape. It sounds incredibly lush. Harder work, but nothing good ever comes easy. If your act can play, it's fine!

    • @juvedoo99
      @juvedoo99 Před 3 lety +5

      A lot of analog records simply sound better than digital. Squarepusher recorded his first album "Feed Me Weird Things" purely on analog hardware. That's intense. But it sounds amazing.

    • @ZaneWuffy
      @ZaneWuffy Před 3 lety

      i certainly dont sir. tape is real fun to record and track on

  • @3three3three3three
    @3three3three3three Před 6 lety +6

    i was so happy to see mr. wibblespoon walk in

  • @tharrock337
    @tharrock337 Před 6 lety +440

    This is not retro enough you should try recording on wax cylinders one day... oh wait.

  • @estaswag9804
    @estaswag9804 Před 4 lety +4

    Watching this has made me appreciate the time and patience from bands like Buddy Holly and the crickets the Beatles to Queen the eagles to make such great songs

    • @banjominer9682
      @banjominer9682 Před 4 lety

      I think eagles produced one of the first digital mainstream albums.

  • @christopherjames7477
    @christopherjames7477 Před 4 lety +38

    70s recordings, mics, amps, drums, everything sounded better to my ears

    • @nathanieldelrosario1324
      @nathanieldelrosario1324 Před 4 lety +4

      Yeah you do have a point, it just has such a unique sound to it, I just can't explain it

    • @2starSwelling
      @2starSwelling Před 4 lety +5

      *Analog*

    • @klaasj7808
      @klaasj7808 Před 4 lety +1

      @@2starSwelling no digital is just fine. if you use the specifications that were set as standard in the late 70's when digital RTR was introduced and the equipment like it was made by Mitsubishi. But not the crap Philips and Sony introduced with their CD format in the 80s. So digital was just fine, but not the commercial crap they came up with.

  • @bmcgoo6027
    @bmcgoo6027 Před 3 lety +2

    As I am old, I was brought up recording on tape - it's so funny hearing an explanation of analogue to digital folk!

  • @AllenPendleton
    @AllenPendleton Před 5 lety +13

    Recording pretty low volumes for tape. I used to hit the meters pretty hard with tape. I miss those days.

  • @fusion-music
    @fusion-music Před 4 lety +2

    Motivational. Miss analogue. Think I'll have to dust of the old 24 track. Thanks to Les Paul and his innovations with tape.

  • @zshakoblahROBLOX
    @zshakoblahROBLOX Před 4 lety

    I so appreciate you sharing how many takes you go through to get the right one. I get down on myself when I have to keep re-recording something to get it right, but even the pro's do multiple takes. Thank you for the humility and honesty, it's encouraging to me.

  • @seralouise.
    @seralouise. Před 6 lety +24

    whoa!!! merle haggard’s tape machine? thats so cool wtf

  • @BurialRiver
    @BurialRiver Před 6 lety +9

    As soon as I saw the title for this I told myself "This is going to be an awesome vid" and I was right. Great job Rob !

  • @ivandeus
    @ivandeus Před 6 lety +1

    Most difference for my ear is the voice. Sounds on tape very Beatles like, textured and thick.

  • @PippPriss
    @PippPriss Před 6 lety

    I could imagine that this highers the apprecation of awesome takes done in older times. It shows the extreme level of craftmansship some musicians had back then.

  • @paulmitchum8658
    @paulmitchum8658 Před 6 lety +448

    This video needs a crusty old engineer. Clearly I'm available.
    "The first three tracks will be guitar..."
    Crusty Old Engineer: "You want bass or kick on edge tracks, you DAW fool! Energy leads to crosstalk, tape wobble leads to pitch changes."
    "At the end I thought about chopping things up, but we can't do that..."
    COE: "See that razor blade over there?"

    • @CoTeCiOtm
      @CoTeCiOtm Před 6 lety +29

      Oooh the razor thing! It was an art on it's own to be able to edit on tape

    • @joshschat2695
      @joshschat2695 Před 6 lety +8

      Glenn fricker in a nutshell

    • @unclestone8406
      @unclestone8406 Před 6 lety +2

      Cut and splice, the old ways.

    • @Knaeckebrotsaege
      @Knaeckebrotsaege Před 5 lety +26

      CoTeCiOtm That reminds me of an old Genesis video Phil Collins himself recorded with his (then brand new) camcorder in 1983, showing the process of producing, mixing and recording what became the self-titled "Genesis" album in 1984, but was produced as the "mama" album at the time. There was a scene that is stuck in my head where they made an edit by cutting and splicing the tape and the whole band sat/stood there, joking and nervously watching the engineer do it, hoping it would turn out okay (and it did). The whole video is worth watching even if you're not a Genesis fan, just to get a flashback of how things were done back then in the early 80s. Here's the part of the video I'm referencing czcams.com/video/iMm-08uZXfo/video.htmlm41s
      edit 17 aug 2019: the channel that originally uploaded the video got nuked by the copyright n*zis, so i reuploaded it here: czcams.com/video/ClX42OjmbuE/video.html

    • @joycefore8214
      @joycefore8214 Před 5 lety

      L moo hip mlLLP

  • @doublea125
    @doublea125 Před 2 lety +4

    That is actually nice that the tape recorder stayed relevant and largely unchanged for decades. Kinda like how Bluetooth hasn't changed much since it first came out.

  • @adamcarson7572
    @adamcarson7572 Před 4 lety

    Thank you Rob Scallon this song is gonna be stuck in my head forever!

  • @katiejohnson5627
    @katiejohnson5627 Před 6 lety +1

    I LOVE THIS. Please keep this series going. Your videos are so unique and well done.

  • @leonardsullivan
    @leonardsullivan Před 5 lety +3

    I love this video Rob, so awesome man!
    Shows how much people really had to PLAY the hell out of their instruments back in the day!
    No quantizing or chopping!

  • @tobiastk5391
    @tobiastk5391 Před 6 lety +6

    Gotta love Mr.Wibblespoon

  • @spurts
    @spurts Před 4 lety +8

    My man isn't pushing the meters enough. You need to go into the red for that lovely saturation

    • @LegendaryRadioJock
      @LegendaryRadioJock Před 3 lety

      May not have wanted saturation...there are times when it's better not to.

  • @DDK62
    @DDK62 Před 4 lety

    🎼Thx Rob for the trip down memory lane & saving equipment like this!!✌❤

  • @AndersEngerJensen
    @AndersEngerJensen Před 6 lety +176

    Tried googling it, couldn't find Bill Clinton at your house at all...?! :P
    Great episode btw! Remember, this was how all the great tracks from the 80s and early 90s were made, gotta pay the old guys some respect for those efforts! :)

    • @leftaroundabout
      @leftaroundabout Před 6 lety +7

      Stupid, Wibblespoon wrote the lyrics! Bet you googled for Clinton in Rob Scallon's house, that would obviously give no results. (He's anyway not as well known, wouldn't give much press coverage even if Bill Clinton had been to Rob's house.)

    • @johnbrockiii2
      @johnbrockiii2 Před 6 lety +3

      Love your work, Anders

    • @eaterdrinker000
      @eaterdrinker000 Před 6 lety +1

      I shook President William Jefferson Clinton's hand (at least I think it was his hand) when I was a teenager at the 1999 Philippine Independence Day parade on Madison Avenue in the City of New York. [He was alongside Mayor Rudolph W. Giuliani and whomever the Filipino-American parade marshal was that day.] I doubt that I'll ever get to shake President Hillary Rodham Clinton's hand, though. My backup plan in life is to sneak into the Clinton mansion in Chappaqua in Westchester County and live there as a [vaguely] liberal elite for the rest of my days. Politics!

    • @l_shaun_bunds_l
      @l_shaun_bunds_l Před 4 lety +1

      Don't forget to be an asshole. Bill Clinton have the okay and subsequently justified the gassing of my brothers and sisters with cs and the use of tanks which is illegal in any other civilized country. Glad disinformation could let him catch zzzs and both claim someone is crazy and also hold them accountable for drug buster raid style stupidity for making up ruby ridge. Ogre nosed rhode scholar sax cigar pussy Epstein island flight log even shittier wife prick

    • @arfansthename
      @arfansthename Před 4 lety

      @@leftaroundabout r/woooosh

  • @hurfnurf2487
    @hurfnurf2487 Před 6 lety +11

    This sounds so much more natural and warm. The best you've done so far

  • @HoxtonGuitarist
    @HoxtonGuitarist Před 6 lety +1

    Sounds amazing! Great work on the audio, Rob Ruccia.

  • @patrikknoerr9777
    @patrikknoerr9777 Před 5 lety +2

    This is simply a beauty and the sound is incredible :)

  • @dh9296
    @dh9296 Před 6 lety +7

    I was just wondering why the video seemed so familiar, though I've got the notification a few minutes ago... I decided to watch the whole video again no matter what. Keep up the great work, Rob! Rooting for you.
    +tell Mr. Wibblespoon that I thanked him for last Friday's dinner. Enjoyed the meal.

  • @veryshortthoughts
    @veryshortthoughts Před 6 lety +3

    there was a significant change in warmth as soon as the track starts, pretty damn cool imo

  • @dm9449
    @dm9449 Před 4 lety

    I love old recording equipment. Just amazing.

  • @lingerierendabunga2982

    Thank you for your video. I appreciate it. Many young people will now understand how difficult it was to record just 1 song, back in the old days.

  • @AiMR
    @AiMR Před 5 lety +10

    Recording on a tour bus? That must have been fun to align and keep working daily.

    • @p0llenp0ny
      @p0llenp0ny Před 5 lety

      I'm sure Merle could afford to bring a tape tech on the road with him.

  • @thetylerbaxley
    @thetylerbaxley Před 3 lety +6

    I just wanted to let you know, I came across this video about a year ago and I can no longer tell anyone to “Google it” without singing the words 😂😅

  • @mariaelenakunstmann2713

    BEAUTY.. I recorded in 2000' but did not have that multitrack machine. Beautiful creation.

  • @gerisyandrayusman241
    @gerisyandrayusman241 Před 2 lety

    Thanks for the video, Rob!

  • @kerzid
    @kerzid Před 6 lety +197

    Has anyone told you how calming your voice is?

    • @akasegaonkar
      @akasegaonkar Před 6 lety

      Ikr

    • @imaymakesomevids
      @imaymakesomevids Před 6 lety +8

      He wasn't singing? Was that beardy guy smh

    • @luli237
      @luli237 Před 6 lety

      Omg yes

    • @charlescampbell5894
      @charlescampbell5894 Před 6 lety +2

      Listen to his "Scarves and Sweaters" video. Or just the entire "The Ride Home" album.
      I dont know why he thinks he has a bad voice he's a great singer.

    • @adwagmusic
      @adwagmusic Před 6 lety +10

      When he says "Hey everybody!" at the beginning of each video, I feel so warm inside.

  • @VinEllis
    @VinEllis Před 4 lety +9

    It's crazy to think this how albums like Dark Side of the Moon were recorded.

    • @Ailgadem
      @Ailgadem Před 3 lety

      And yet they were still better than most made today

  • @rlowle1228
    @rlowle1228 Před 4 lety

    Thanks gor the lesson. I knew it was something like that but seeing it in action shows how technical it was.

  • @KubilayKapsiz
    @KubilayKapsiz Před 6 lety

    unbelieveble headroom! loudness range is so incredible!

  • @MICKEYISLOWD
    @MICKEYISLOWD Před 4 lety +38

    When you consider The Beatles recorded most of their stunning albums on even more primitive equipment than this it reveals just how phenomenal they were. Even today with very sophisticated DAWs and every plugin you can think of, nobody has ever come close to what they achieved. Just take a listen to Revolver and marvel at their genius:)

    • @albertoskrico9412
      @albertoskrico9412 Před 4 lety +3

      They suck tho. But I get the point

    • @jakewenttocolorado
      @jakewenttocolorado Před 3 lety +2

      The beatles is one of my favorite bands and even I can acknowledge that they were super overrated.

    • @jesusm.3785
      @jesusm.3785 Před 3 lety +2

      Alberto Sk Rico how?

    • @ericfricke4512
      @ericfricke4512 Před 2 lety

      Some people view tape as superior, sonically.

    • @lievliberant6019
      @lievliberant6019 Před 2 lety +1

      @@ericfricke4512 I knew a guitar player who was kind of the savant type, and had incredibly good ears. He could tell tonewoods apart by sound in a blindfold test, that kind of thing. Anyway, I'll never forget how he described the sound of analog vs. digital to me. He said, "I don't understand the technology enough to explain the mechanics of it but, it seems to me that audio tape 'captures' the sound while digital 'renders' it." He said all digital recordings sound as if they're made up of what he described as "audio pixels". I can't honestly say that I can hear what he was hearing but I don't have dog ears like that

  • @jefftestdrives
    @jefftestdrives Před 6 lety +8

    Still have an old 4-track recorder and a bunch of tapes I recorded from the old days.

  •  Před 6 lety

    So warm. Loving this.

  • @sbingham1979
    @sbingham1979 Před 5 lety

    This is so informative, as far as getting some background on what really happened to record sound before the digital/DAW world arrived. Thanks so much!

  • @roba165
    @roba165 Před 4 lety +22

    Slow Tools Ultimate 😂

  • @justinbouchard
    @justinbouchard Před 6 lety +79

    How many strings does that washboard have?
    You shredded that thing. The strum at the end was epic.

  • @resslerartstudios
    @resslerartstudios Před 5 lety

    A lot of fun. Brought back memories. Thanks guys...

  • @ioncrops
    @ioncrops Před 4 lety +1

    Damn, it sounds amazing, there's just something about the tone, and wow your engineer is an absolute master! Amazing job!

  • @ebheron
    @ebheron Před 6 lety +227

    Ah tape recording, it separates the men from the boys.

    • @3star2nr
      @3star2nr Před 5 lety +1

      Why?

    • @ksteiger
      @ksteiger Před 4 lety +14

      Because you have to make decisions... the RIGHT decisions.

    • @creamydistortion
      @creamydistortion Před 4 lety +17

      You had to be good at your instrument to make it sound good on tape.

  • @okami9634
    @okami9634 Před 5 lety +8

    The "nice" at 8:22 sounds like it's in my head

  • @max5427
    @max5427 Před 6 lety

    Very good Video. I'm so glad, that there are virtual Tape machines out there with no of the cons of a real one.

  • @vocalpro
    @vocalpro Před 4 lety

    This sounds gorgeous

  • @normjacques6853
    @normjacques6853 Před 4 lety +3

    It's fun to see you being introduced to the wonderful world of analog! Most of the recording i've done has been on this type of gear....up until the last several years when my 'kids' (now in their 30s) got me into digital. I still prefer tape, though, and have an 8-track studio in my basement. Cool video! Hope you had fun. Try some more tape recording. The dynamics are way better! :-)

  • @ExtraWeenieSauce
    @ExtraWeenieSauce Před 3 lety +5

    Oh, tape recording. Loved by many people. Used by: lots o bands. Band I was thinking of: Metallic🅰️

    • @dread455
      @dread455 Před 3 lety

      Megadeth too

    • @DingleDut
      @DingleDut Před 3 lety

      Bruh.. Metallica Megadeth Guns n' Roses Danger Danger Brittany Fox Motley Crue Dokken Ratt Europe..you name it.

  • @97McLuvin
    @97McLuvin Před 6 lety

    This is something I've always wanted to do this!
    Very cool vide, I'm living vicariously through this

  • @Yourveryowncarrot
    @Yourveryowncarrot Před 6 lety

    Wow, that was the best 40 minute washboard solo I've ever heard. The parts where I was awake blew my mind.

  • @Wizardofgosz
    @Wizardofgosz Před 6 lety +29

    I've been using tape for 20 years and wouldn't trade it for anything. Man, I have a friend who is always telling me stuff like, "I just recorded basics for a session and now I have to spend the day editing the drums," and I just want to scream FOR WHAT? If they were that bad why didn't you recut?
    I've done literally hundreds of analog sessions and never listened to playback after recording basics and ever said to myself "Man, I totally want to spend the next 8 hours micro-editing the shit out of these tracks." I just don't get it. And yes, I do have a DAW and do use it when I have to. But even then I don't spend hours editing sessions. I might clean up noise at the beginning of end of some takes but that's about it.

    • @bobbywizdum5248
      @bobbywizdum5248 Před 5 lety +3

      Whatever would they do in a world where engineers relied on their ears

    • @sonus289
      @sonus289 Před 4 lety +1

      bobby w... better music might happen?

    • @NUKELEDGE
      @NUKELEDGE Před 4 lety +2

      @@sonus289 Nah not really. If you're going by your ears, you have imperfections and don't hear things and notice things that you could in a DAW, e.g. clipping and distortion.

  • @SpectrumAudiophile
    @SpectrumAudiophile Před 6 lety +7

    That pretty much settles the argument. Tape just sounds infinitely better than digital. The lovely little tune made it all that much better.

  • @Epd3mik
    @Epd3mik Před 6 lety

    Aah! You can really hear the Tapesound! Its more alive, warm and crispy! I love it!

  • @SBPRA
    @SBPRA Před 4 lety

    Thanks for the trip down memory lane. I used to record on those machines every day.

  • @JustinNathanielAdams
    @JustinNathanielAdams Před 6 lety +5

    That's what I'm talkin' about, Bill.

  • @whanowa
    @whanowa Před 6 lety +3

    Those were the times artists needed actual raw talent to create great records. So stunning how much easier it became for goofs like us to do this stuff today.

  • @estrellanator296
    @estrellanator296 Před 5 lety

    so glad i watched this video till the end!

  • @shadowmixx
    @shadowmixx Před 2 lety +1

    Ahhhh yes. The 'process'. I love it. I can still remember when some of my friends would complain about how long it took for artists to release something. By the time I broke down the actual 'recording' aspects to them, minus traveling, rehearsals, mixing, mastering, and any other technical difficulties or business red tape, they were in awe.
    Still to this day, I find it amazing that some can play an incredibly done multi-tracked record, that was recorded for hours or days, listen to it for about 4 minutes or less, and exclaim in 2 words, "it sucks". Priceless 😉

  • @SanskarWagley
    @SanskarWagley Před 6 lety +81

    Should’ve recorded some black metal on tape

    • @timothymckane6362
      @timothymckane6362 Před 6 lety +22

      Wax cylinders are trve kvlt.
      This is too high quality.

    • @awertyuiop8711
      @awertyuiop8711 Před 6 lety +4

      You'd have to first convert the tape to another format like casette (or a worn out vinyl), the quality loss could make it closer to trve cvlt

  • @Baby_boodle
    @Baby_boodle Před 6 lety +3

    I swear, Rob has some kind of thing where he just *has* to strum a chord to end a song lol. It doesn't always work the best, but I like it here.

  • @adrianreyes4702
    @adrianreyes4702 Před 4 lety

    This was awesome guys! Loved it!

  • @Music-vc7mq
    @Music-vc7mq Před 5 lety

    thank you for the posting the video,Rob...

  • @icedviking4485
    @icedviking4485 Před 6 lety +7

    We need some May-tallica Rob!

  • @meismagiic4779
    @meismagiic4779 Před 4 lety +56

    9:30 is how Billie Eyelash was made.

  • @eyesintheskies
    @eyesintheskies Před 5 dny

    He had a 2inch 16 track on his bus 😮 Merle’s portable recorder 😂 what an absolute legend!!!

  • @deltavistastudio124
    @deltavistastudio124 Před 5 lety

    Thanks Rob, brings back memories from working in studios in the 80's. :)

  • @jeffhartman7000
    @jeffhartman7000 Před 5 lety +15

    Your timeline is a bit too early: magnetic tape recording was developed in Germany sometime around the beginning of WW2, and it was Jack Mullins who brought pieces of captured German equipment back to the United States after 1945. He did reverse engineering and a significant amount of new research to create the first practical tape recorders in this country -- leading to the Ampex 200, the development of which was sponsored by Bing Crosby.

    • @notvalidcharacters
      @notvalidcharacters Před 4 lety +2

      1935 actually, the AEG Magnetophon. Tape was developed as an alternative to wire in I think 1927. Recording didn't catch on in the US pre-WW2 mainly because radio networks were doing live content and didn't see a need for it. The process was first patented by Valdemar Poulsen (1898).

  • @bitrot42
    @bitrot42 Před 4 lety +7

    That moment when you realize the stuff you loved is now a curious historical artifact most people have never seen...

  • @e24vrksutheeput37
    @e24vrksutheeput37 Před 10 měsíci

    I really love these.❤

  • @mattfleming2287
    @mattfleming2287 Před 6 lety

    Damn you, Scallon!! This song is now an ear worm and is playing in my head for the last 2 hours. I was walking down the hall whistling it....
    Nice job!