AOE2:DE - The Last Khans Campaign: Kotyan Khan 2. The Battle at the Kalka River
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- čas přidán 12. 09. 2024
- For centuries, the Cumans throve on the vast plains of Eurasia. Now, a new threat comes from the East - Mongols, ruthless beyond imagination and seemingly invincible. Kotyan, the khan of a small clan, must unite the Cumans to resist the invaders. Will he save his people, even if it means abandoning their ancestral lands and ancient ways?
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Subotai: How dare you defy our Great Khan.Your horses, your women, and your gold belong to the horde now.
Viper: Don't steal our sheep !
“Dont forget that the the viper is here as well Kotyan khan.. you might not last as long” soooo it waaas a threat after all!
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That was the very first unit he lost 111
I’ve been cursed by that Boyar for at least 10 times.
So, it works ?
Me too. 4 times in standard 4 times in hard difficulty.
They do show Mongols SO Fierce In this campaigns but when we get to play the genghis khan campaign All we get is few cavalry and villagers.. Tho the tamerlane campaign is quite wonderful in this aspect..
There should be a campaign where we play as Subotai. Probably the greatest military mastermind of his time, since he swept away vast armies all over Asia and Europe with usually much less resources and men.
Then again, in the Mongol campaign, Cumans and Russians were just barely relevant passerby for Subotai.
YOU NEED TO PRODUCE YOURSELF THE ARMY, DUMBO! CLICK ON THE MOUSE! WHAT DID YOU EXPECT? WAIT YOUR ARMY TO AUTO CREATE AND RUN IN FRONT WHILE SIPING A BEER, LIKE CBA SHIT FOR LAZY KIDS?
@@marcdedouvan oh god! How to answer stupids! Tell me!
@@daa3930 AND WERE GOTHS (-_^)
Wait what - an hour? Either this will be a slow game or *you know what I mean* happens.
Within 8 minutes XP
BINGO!
I really admire when Silver players have courage to try campaigns on Hard difficulty. I think this guy has alot of potential though, hopefully he doesn't give up. I think he will be very good at this game and might even become a pr0. Keep it up TheViperAOC!! #Clearly
Tsar r/wooooosh
@@ecparentheses3708 r/woosh to you, he was being sarcastic
dg_sarp lmao look at the username I was responding to it’s a comment that had been deleted. I wasn’t responding to op. I was responding to a comment that iirc had not picked up that op was being sarcastic. Soooooooooi
“mongols brought some sort of advanced weapon we won't be able to hold them off much longer” he ran away 10 minutes ago what is he talking about lol
probably the way the scenario was made, the cumans weren't expected to lose so fast lol
He left a note with that message on it for us to find before he fled in terror.
It looks like your Cuman Tribes allies are fleeing as soon as one of the Tatar castles goes down.
"Hints here are actually hints" i love viper 😂
Now I feel better after been defeated 4 times in a row by the Mongols
There is an achievement called "Cuman Flush" to beat this level in feudal age.
How hard do you think that's going to be?
Does it have to be on hard difficulty I wonder?
I did that on hard difficulty and found it easier actually. Just have 4 villagers on food and 4 switching off on gold and wood. No tcs and base building. Full scout rush with rams. This was after multiple failed attempts of building up and going to castle.
1:02:22 Viper gets the achievement
That is actually the right and easiest way to pass this campaign.
Damn... It's good to know even the best player can succumb to the 'shenanigans' of the campaign missions. Glad you were able to beat it eventually.
These new scenarios are wonderfully made
that moment when you dont even realize you´ve lost
7:18 Off to a great start
This Subotai Ba'atur is the same you used on 2 scenarios of Genghis Khan campain
NOW YOU BATTLE AGAINST
HAHAHA IKR you are battling against past self when you first play this campaign
Seeing Viper with the exact same struggles as me makes me feel a little better about taking 8 attempts to beat this
I killed the Mongols on hard difficulty after I "killed" the Tatars with only one castle left. Three castles are needed for me to defend the choke point beside the cliff. I destroyed Subotai's tent and he said I would pay for it. Then all of his units got a significant buff, e.g., a heavy CA had 160 HP 8 MA and 7 PA. This is a very nice challenge if anyone wants to try.
Unfortunately I destroy the tent at last moment so never experience the buff.
I am so gonna burn down that fucktards tent, and anyone left inside of it while I'm at it.
I did the same took me 4 in game hours :)
I will do this next try :)
I beat this level by luring the Tatars army into the Cyan army with the help of Kotyan Khan and basically just rushing them super hard with rams. Once you destroy the first TC and their production buildings it gets so much easier.
You don't even need to bother with production buildings, just rush the tcs before they hit the castle age so they can't train any military since cav archers, keshiks and steppe lancers are all they train and they're all castle age units.
I beat this level by booming and destroying the Mongols by building a 7 castles wall with some knights to aim the rams.
Is destroying the Tatar Castle the trigger for the Cuman tribes leaving?
yes
@@darthskull2 so then... It's better to do not dedtroy it at the beggining
@@elduquecaradura1468 but then you will have a full mongol empire over you, the best is like we see at the last attemp, going full rampts and troops at first (but damaging the economy) then going to the castles, I really don't see the probability of surviving for an economic boom with that many enemy troops
@@requetesanty it's what I said, is a really bad idea to remove cumans at the beggining. The best it's to let the castles to the latest end as possible
Thanks for the video. This is a difficult mission with multiple paths to victory! After watching this VOD I feel inspired to go back and complete this escape mission.
Just noticed that the Bodkin Arrow icon actually looks like a bodkin arrow now not a broad head.
I won it in Castle Age by going one TC, FC-ish into castle drop. Make a bunch of kipchaks and 5-6 rams, the Mongols were utterly finishing to destroy my base when I finally took down the last Tatars' castle! It's such a great scenario, for sure one of the hardest in the campaigns.
Viper, can you replay this campaign leaving a small remnant of the Tatars to see if you can overwhelm the Mongols? I think it would be a fun challenge
Somewhere around 1:40
"Don't forget that TheViper is here, Kotyan. You might not last long."
That had me dead.
I use to play this game with my dad around 15 years ago. I have now downloaded it again,
but damn Watching you play makes me dizzy. You are so good!!
Insane micro, I knew you would be able to do this!
I'm also feeling less bad about myself struggling seeing you lost 3 times before actually beating it xD
7:15 when u realise u f****d up
That was a great master class, Sir Viper. Thank you.
damn, this was intense ... loved it
Your allies continuously train units, so if you help them defend, you'll be able to buy more time
good idea. does it work?
Viper, could you perhaps turn up the game volume (dialogue anyway) up a bit in the next campaigns? The difference between your voice and the dialogue is a bit much.
Palaside wall in the Cuman Tribe who gonna run away, so when mongols come der, they will automatically attack each other
I builded 4 castles in hardest difficulty in a hill super fast and block the castles with maze of palisade wall so my castles with vills inside killed everybody. Hold on a couple hours, build large eco, and slowly killed every single enemy of the map and wiped my ass with Subotais dead army. Plus saved the game like 50 times and needed to load game another 50 times for a perfect victory.
Why lol
@@viktor1337w My nub strategy.
lol
LMAO did the same:
Got rekt while booming
Got rekt after FC into kipchaks
*Actually read the hints*
Won!
Actually, I failed to win by rushing but I won by booming. The secret ? To build a castle wall (I sold everything to buy the stone) and it worked. I then got an economy enough strong to beat the Tatars.
This was a hard mission, the first time i failed miserably, wasn't expecting to get pushed that hard, but eventually i did it, wa so proud when i completed it on hard.
SPOILER: Haven't watched the whole thing yet, but gotta say that Viper's last stand on 2nd attempt was heroic.
You are being attacked by 7 Mongols!
They should fix that, obviously is the player's number, but it's really silly
yeah, should be something like Mongols (7) or [7] Mongols
Viper : - ''Why Is This So Hard''
Me: - Because You Set Your Difficulty On Hard
I could hardly pass Castle Age and hardly build Castle next to a town center in the base south but hereafter easily won the episode (I am a very average player, nowhere near viper). But when I see the endless flow of mongols and tatars in this video made me think why&how mine was easier... cant wait to try again at home
Dude this is the campaign mission I almost broke my whole brand new super high end PC on.... the difficulty of this mission is unbelievably hard. Once the mongols get through your ally, its over...
It took me 2 hours++ in moderate difficulty, what an insane battles against them mongols and tatars. Mongols were too OP in this Campaign.
I think the retreat or the cumans triggers if you destroy the castle of the tartars before the cumans are defeated because for me they never retreated either. Also they held much better on my game for me to boom and make a step lancer/kiptchuk army with full upgrades.. I walled myself in and made a castle on which the tartars suicided too. But appart from my army there was nothing left because the mongols destroyed everything.
“Hunting dog 🐕, hunting wolf 🐺 proves to be quite useful here”
Good thing to know I wasn't the only one having difficulty with this level
I like to think that those bombard cannons the Mongols brought from China to this mission were the original ones captured in that campaign. The Mongols didn't bother to capture Chinese engineers and ask how to build them, instead a few dudes with sweet cardio push the original ones all over the world, and they take SUPER good care of them.
18:41 words which precede unfortunate events
Did all the fleeing Kiev units die at the top north of the map? A lot of orange dots show up, or am I wrong?
I think that was just fortifications, I think they actually manage to flee, but not sure.
They disappear.
They just despawn. That army was probably chasing a scout.
This is the only campaign I couldn't complete..
I super enjoyed watching you destroying this fxxxxxxg tartars!
The mongols are truly invincible in this mission. I literally got routed by the Mongols each and every time. Had to finally use the cobra car after getting frustarted to the core.
You don't even have to build any farm in this game. Actually you only need to build Kipchaks and battering rams to win the game, so all you need is wood and gold. And order 4 villagers to get just enough stones to build 2 castles. 1 can be built at the gate of the front town center of Tartars, and the other is built near the main gold mines at the heart of Tartars' bases. With the first castle, you can draw enemy cavalries to get killed, and with the second, the enemy won't get enough gold to support building more cavalries. The neglect of gathering food can in a sense relieve our shortage of villagers and time, and help focus on necessary and important military units.
Glad I’m not the only person struggling with this one! Surely the feudal ram rush is impossible on Hard
I'm a simple man I see viper lose I press like
7:19 is what you guys came here for bois. You're welcome.
its a joy to see how much you are enjoying the challenge - that's what it's all about!
**so u managed to kill the extreme ai a few times - but can u kill the Mongols in this map? :D
I finally could defeat Tatars after I saw your last trial. This scenario actually requires memorizing of a particular tactic.
Awesome video! Thank you!
A great thanks !! I was unable to pass the huge attack and i don't like to rush, but it's definitively the good way
This just isn't a Viper scenario, more of a Hoang one.
When defending a castle, wouldnt it be worth it to target enemy units with the castle? Specially if you can queue attacks so it kills several cav archers in a row before going back to the rams (which i'm not sure is possible, since DE changed how queuing works). I understand not doing it in the old editions, but if it works in DE i can see Viper selecting the castle, then queuing attacks on 6 archers in half a second, then going back to microing units.
😂😂😂😁👌👌Didn't disappoint.It wouldn't be a viper campaign without the hero dying.
fun campaign, keep these videos coming.
I actually tried to build up a true economy and finally won the game around 90min or so game time. I had my eco mostly located at the blue ally and the north of them. Mass kipchek and super speedy production cuman light cav could actually fend off the mongol aggresion once the 80 vills eco set up. Not a very pleasant experience though. But I do appreciate that the game depicted the Mongols pressure quite accurately.
had to come back to this video to be able to do this mission... took me about 15 attempts and finished it in the end the same way viper did. just yolo all in no tc
thank you for new campaings, I can't afford the game but I was really excited about last khans campaign
İsim efsane bro
7:55
*Drinks coffee in shame*
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You can beat it without flush. I did it with my third attempt on hard. Two TCs close together, one TC goes to castle, the other makes vills, get stone early, build first castle to protect eco. Then build eco and build another castle close to the first castle, build market and buy some stone for this. Then continue to build eco and start army, skirms and some light cav/camels or knights for taking out rams, later get kipchaks. Get bodkin arrow. Defend using castles and tcs to kill enemy army. Then build third castle close, build smart walls. With this setup you can defend the mongol attacks. Then continue eco and army build up. Once you hit 150 pop take the tatars out.
Wait to play bari mission 4, hard as fuck
*16:39** The ultimate questions of AOE2 all Campaigns.*
just finally finished the mission, hardest one I've done so far, fun seeing Vipers reaction to the absurdity this mission was
plopped 2 town facs right next to each other, wall to wall, by a quarry as two townhalls filled with villagers allowed me to actually survive the first waves of attacks. I would defeat each enemy town by sending in a small army in there to distract while a horde of villagers plugged the village entrance with a castle, which could exactly reach enemy TCs with 2 range upgrades.
edit: Huh I never made it to the part where the mongols reach me. Edit 2: Oh I didnt read the hints
Nerfs that would make sense for Cumans:
-start with 50 stone (-150)
-Cavalry speed bonus applies only to knight line.
-Steppe lancers have 1 less pierce armor so they are weak vs archers and under town centers and castles.
I love the face when Viper recognize that the hero dies;) #clearlyapro
>Why is this so hard?
It is historically accurate.
Am I mistaken or does the AI in AOE2 has unlimited resources of gold even when they have no merchants and the natural gold resources are drained? It is unfair yet in many levels I've played it was the only explanation for their armies being decimated at my castles, yet are all rebuild in a minute over and over again, normally costing thousands of gold units each.
Viper新年快樂
20:00
TheViper: Why is this so hard???
System: Actually this is a hard mode
I spent so many hours redoing this mission...so I searched on youtube and found this, yep this is the BEST strategy to finish this game without mongols crap destroy your base in one minute. The scenarist were tricky, you feel like you safe to start a base and gather many ressources, but it's the trap, all you have to do is build one siege ram building, siege rams, couple scout cavalry and the tatars will stop making units after you destroy their first TC and gold mining builing, simple as that.
Please do the new Bari campaign missions (on hard), they are so stupidly hard, and there is no play through content out there for them yet :')
i want to see the viper beating the mongols in this
Yea~We Chinese provided the advanced weapon to the Mongol but still do not get chemistry in our civ
Im extremely glad to see I wasnt the only one who thought that early push bs was just...bs. That is easily the hardest campaign Ive ever played.
You play like a god here. But tell how casual like me can have a chance in this mission. Please do tell me. I dont have a slight change of holding even for 10 minutes.. xD this was awesome!
uhhh I know all the pain, played this 4 times until I finally got it right
your own villagers calling you a sellout the entire time as well. super rough man
You can win this mission by a brute force method : Booming, buying 2 castle and spamming light cav with Cumans castle age tech. It takes nearly 2 hours by this way but you can counter Mongols army easily once spamming light cav start.
LUL
Or you win in 10 minutes by doing the feudal rush. I personally played this level atleast 10 times before getting it right. I did a similar strat as Viper did in this video.
I know it is not an ideal way that's why i call it a brute force method :D
A real hint for you: robin hood
Or maybe: how do you turn this on
I HOPE YOU REMEMBER THAT YOU DID THAT CAMPAIGN ON SUBOTAI SIDE!
I am kipchak - cuman from Kazakhstan ✌️💪
The wolf is soo cool 😍❤️
For this campaign, I can't counter Tatars first some attacks, then restarted and I try tower rush and federal ram to crash Tatars. It works finally because you are cuman.
I got this second attempt on hard but havent been able to reproduce it since. Feels bad man. Such a satisfying feeling beating this one
I would love to see someone take out all of the Mongols in this level. It would be extremely difficult but it must be possible.
geez the mongols push sooooo much earlier on hard difficulty
FOREST IN NORMAL SIZE IS SO BEAUTIFUL!
kind of sarcastic hm? ^^
@@tH4ttUs YOU BLIND?
Great video viper. You are genius
I snuck Kotyan behind their lines in the beginning then I slow took out their production buildings
This was a really hard mission on mac difficulty. I just built castles everywhere in tatar base to kill their swarm armies
Where did you get all the stone for that?
@@elduquecaradura1468 rock on
When I played this I don't know why but found this rather easy because I did not even start with 2 tcs but only 1 and siege workshop and managed to take down the tatars' castle tc before they got castle. Which apparently breaks them completely. But appears that if you don't go immediately on the attack it gets pretty wild
yes, since all they train are castle age units, destroying the first tc before they hit castle age cripples them insanely because they are stuck with only starting units they have
What happened to the ivaylo campain ? It seemed like there was more story after the 'Where the One eyed man is King'.
it was the last one ;)
How? Ivaylo died. The claim that he survived and continued to help the Bulgars is a reference to the psudo-Ivaylos who claimed to continue his legacy in the years following his death.
Nope, the woman says in the final cutscene "it is rumored that Nogai Khan had his guards drag Ivaylo outside and have him killed". She also reveals something special, like most of the campaigns do, like the child she is talking to being Ivaylo's son. Seemed like an ending to me
I tried the flush and couldn't make it work. Instead I just built up an economy and massed skirms and spears (literally producing them continuously from the moment I got the archery range and barracks). Since the Tatars only make cavalry you easily defend their early waves. You need to go Castle Age reasonably quickly and upgrade to pikes/elite skirms, otherwise once the Tatars go castle and start sending castle age upgraded units, they absolutely melt your feudal age boys. Then you just load your pikes into rams and attack.