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  • čas přidán 29. 05. 2023
  • A good solid fast to build defence tower using a closed loop system to simplify and speed up creation. I struggled to find any good information on building a defence tower when I went looking, it turns out all you need is about 5 discs of plasma/flak and you can stop effectively infinite waves.
    Included DLC
    Split Vendetta
    Cradle of Humanity
    Tides of Avarice
    Kingdoms end
    Credits Song
    Rise of the protectorate by Alexei Zakharov
    Save file :
    / francisjohn
    Discord server : / discord
    X4: Foundations is a huge space sandbox simulator that lives and breathes within your gaming system. Thousands of ships and stations trade, mine and produce, all realistically simulated. In this universe, you can grow from being the lone pilot of a fighter ship, to managing a vast empire, commanding your fleets and designing colossal space stations. Transition seamlessly from first-person action, boarding ships and visiting their bridges, to an expansive strategy and management simulation. Choose your own path at your own pace. The decisions are yours. Trade - Fight - Build - Think.

Komentáře • 164

  • @masterofthedeathwing2839
    @masterofthedeathwing2839 Před 11 měsíci +80

    you should put a couple of large beams on there. just like 2. they are hitscan, sometimes their miners come through in travel mode, and blast past before your station can react, a beam will tap them and drop them out of travel mode, prevent them going back to travel mode.

  • @nemoralis4713
    @nemoralis4713 Před 4 měsíci +17

    You can also add a second station off to the side with a recycler and scrap processor, with a Minotaur set to auto collect, to make tons of Hull Parts and Claytronics from all the wrecks the defence station is creating 😄

  • @tinpony9424
    @tinpony9424 Před měsícem +20

    I have to say, I was a bit skeptical. Built one of these in HATs Choice, and gave it a good test today (7.0).
    I went into Xenon territory with a destroyer and pulled a big loop in travel drive, then back out to the tower, dragging 6 Ks and an I behind me.
    (lots of fighters came with them)
    So, anyway, the tower lost about 10 of it's defense drones, but killed all the Xenon with a little help from Argon in the area. No damage to the tower at all.
    Outstanding build. Thank you!

    • @tonytwotimes2859
      @tonytwotimes2859 Před měsícem +3

      Thanks, I was wondering how these handle the combat changes in 7.0 - does the manager skill up quickly from all these kills? not sure if that affects their skill or not.

    • @tinpony9424
      @tinpony9424 Před měsícem +3

      @@tonytwotimes2859 I started with a one and a half star mgr I had working as service crew. By the time the def platform was finished, he was two and a half. I gave him a two star seminar I got from doing a guild mission, so he was then almost four stars in management. After the Ks and I were destroyed, he was still at almost four stars. I think running the station/maintaining drone counts with trades for components does more for his skills than actual defense battles.

  • @clonorchis00
    @clonorchis00 Před rokem +77

    FYI, the defense disks do not have to be connected to anything else. You can rotate and place them wherever you want in the build space. It can solve some of the field of fire issues.

    • @salemprompthous3820
      @salemprompthous3820 Před rokem +8

      This also applies to anything else on a station. Want a free-flow station producing "Everything", it can be done.

    • @stopbegging4likes
      @stopbegging4likes Před rokem +1

      Why aren't mine shooting any thing that comes through?

    • @salemprompthous3820
      @salemprompthous3820 Před rokem +7

      @@stopbegging4likes only reason I can think of is the turrets themselves haven't been built...?
      Can be checked through looking at the construction and see whether or not all resources have been delivered, and that the construction ship is still on-site (sometimes they can get targetted by attackers and they'll either flee or get destroyed)

    • @stopbegging4likes
      @stopbegging4likes Před rokem +1

      @@salemprompthous3820 I don't understand why it takes so long, i nearly wiped out the xenon and the stupid builder still hasn't finished my simple defense platform, it's been 2 weeks and is only a dock and 4 disk, smmfh

    • @remuluson2904
      @remuluson2904 Před rokem +9

      @@stopbegging4likes maybe there are no components in the local area to feed the turrets?

  • @MrFevill
    @MrFevill Před rokem +39

    3:36 The split platform can be rotated vertically. And then all the turrets will be directed to the right place.

    • @davecrupel2817
      @davecrupel2817 Před 3 dny

      That's good IF you can keep all your enemies in the one area.
      If they end up scattering, you'll need multiple bands of fire in different directions.
      Which is probably the one and only good thing about having such a narrow arcs:
      Your turrets Will actually focus on different targets at the same time. Which they generally don't seem to like to do when they can all share the same Target.
      At least that's been my experience. I personally like as many targets being shot at simultaneously.

  • @b0inGy
    @b0inGy Před rokem +34

    Hold down shift while you rotate to lock to 90 degree angles.

    • @p5eudo883
      @p5eudo883 Před 2 měsíci +3

      omg thank you. rotation has caused me to rage more than once.

    • @pumasoko1021
      @pumasoko1021 Před 23 dny +2

      OMG I LOVE YOU!!!!!!!!!!!! My stations are always so freaking wonky because I am to lazy to check for 90° everytime

  • @michaelwade9073
    @michaelwade9073 Před rokem +28

    for your collection ships you can also tell them to deposit inventory, it will make them take their inventory to your headquarters and you can pick up everything all at once. also you can sit in your chair in your personal office while using seta.

  • @wazabi368
    @wazabi368 Před měsícem +2

    Just tryed it. Was stuck in hatikva for litterally a all fucking day just to prevent the sector from falling. A all fucking day !!! Xenon waves every 10 minutes!!! And in that moment of deep solutide i saw the Light. This video. For less than 6 mil. I built that defense tower the way you said and i left. Now i m looking from a far "hatikva shield"mass murdering xenons by the hundreds. The ligue send me money every minutes and hatikva is the safest sector in the galaxy. Thank you so much !!!

  • @salemprompthous3820
    @salemprompthous3820 Před rokem +42

    When building the very first defense defense disc/bridge, configured loadout. Copy module then also copies the loadout. Not really a big change, but a helpful tip, I hope.
    And, thanks for the closed loop stuff, @Francis, was wondering why my "build this station" missions sometimes got messed up. Completely missed the "Only applies for Argon modules" part of it 🤣

    • @salemprompthous3820
      @salemprompthous3820 Před rokem +3

      Also, a bit curious: which ship is @FJ flying during the building process? (Looks like a Split design..??) 6 forward-facing weapons, I wanna try that one 😅
      Been loving the Nemesis Sentinel so far; 5 forward-facing, 2 medium turrets and a boot full of laser towers, annihilates most of what I aim at, and anything that tries to come up my tail gets a laser-beam (or ten) to the face by way of the towers, and flak turrets if they're not otherwise occupied.
      Usually start out with a quick 5x beam or bolt setup, then work my way (in terms of both rep and cash) to 1 Ion + 4 plasma to hunt L-size for hijack-runs. Other builds/tips are highly appreciated, as I'm still fairly new to the game ❤

    • @AnzusWarGames
      @AnzusWarGames Před rokem +3

      @@salemprompthous3820 Pretty sure it's the Split Dragon. It's an awesome ship, tons of guns and FAST! I need to buy more of them xD

    • @salemprompthous3820
      @salemprompthous3820 Před rokem +2

      @@AnzusWarGames it is the Dragon, yeah. Thanks. Managed to get one by asking a pilot to surrender, while they were fighting someone else. Completely banged up ship, so was unsure at first. After a major overhaul, repair and upgrade, it left my Nemesis in the (space)dust 😍

    • @AnzusWarGames
      @AnzusWarGames Před rokem +2

      @@salemprompthous3820 That's awesome! haha nice find man!

  • @Biomirth
    @Biomirth Před dnem

    Closed Loop: Well it's kind of easy mode. For a house rule I suggest only using it if you're actively scrapping in the same sector. Great vid and defense stations are such a lifesaver.

  • @ZlothZloth
    @ZlothZloth Před rokem +14

    Telladi defense turrets have a LOT of L turrets on the bottom half. The shields for them are on the other half. If you know which way the enemy is going to come from, you can twist the module so all those L turrets are pointed toward the baddies. Fighters that come in and try to destroy the L turrets will have to fly to the other side to get at the shields.
    The Boron modules are also nice for anti-fighter work. Hello large flak turret!

  • @feronanthus9756
    @feronanthus9756 Před rokem +13

    In my Split games I rotate my defense platforms up 90 degrees to get generally half of the turrets on target. Also it makes a nice net looking structure which I like

    • @MrFevill
      @MrFevill Před rokem +2

      Me too bro! It`s greate decision! Splits are cool!)

  • @davecrupel2817
    @davecrupel2817 Před 3 dny

    "Rise of the Protectorate" is probably the mightiest song to ever be made in X4.

  • @thomasstensson8407
    @thomasstensson8407 Před rokem +9

    Great vid!
    Once the AI collector does have a item in thier inventory, right click the ship and give it a order to Drop Inventory at HQ. This works great with the repeat orders thet you already have. Then later on just teleport/fly to your PHQ and go to science lab and collect all the items gathered there from your multiple drop collector ships!

    • @MelfiortheOne
      @MelfiortheOne Před rokem +3

      IMO, teleporting to pilot is faster :) Especially when you have highest teleport tech.

    • @thomasstensson8407
      @thomasstensson8407 Před rokem +3

      @@MelfiortheOne once you have a few collectors its easier to gather all stuff at once. Besides if your collector dies before you have time to collect you lose alot of income unless you teleport to them often

    • @MelfiortheOne
      @MelfiortheOne Před rokem +4

      @@thomasstensson8407 next level is to build a scrap recycler nearby and run tugs around :))

  • @edwardwinkelman7988
    @edwardwinkelman7988 Před rokem +19

    Been experimenting with a few different designs beyond the basic Plasma/Flak design. Aside from causing friendly fire issues, flak is just too low range to really stop ships from just flying by your defense platform. First I tried Large Beams (for handling fighters) with dumbfire turrets for shooting Heavy missiles at destroyers. Works a treat in high attention, gets wrecked in low attention. Next it was back to plasma for the large turrets with guided missiles for the medium turrets combined with interceptor missiles. Using the same closed loop building style an interceptor missile costs just 10 energy cells. Slap 4 solar panels and a medium container on the base and it's basically set for missiles for life. It only really struggles to kill some Ps, but otherwise virtually nothing gets by this.

    • @shanecameron1546
      @shanecameron1546 Před rokem +1

      How do you make the closed-loop station use the closed-loop ver of the missiles? I have build the station closed loop with all argon parts but once I select a missile it puts an automatic buy offer for missile components and smart chips...?

    • @shanecameron1546
      @shanecameron1546 Před rokem +1

      Never mind... as soon as I asked the question I found the answer after 2 days of searching....

    • @ZlothZloth
      @ZlothZloth Před rokem

      Have you tried the new Boron weapons with this? The large Ion Net shoots fast and far. It does not seem to slow anything down and doesn't do much damage, but all you need to do is annoy the Xenon and it should come and attack.

    • @edwardwinkelman7988
      @edwardwinkelman7988 Před rokem +1

      @@ZlothZloth I have not tried it with Boron platforms yet. Was just thinking about this yesterday actually since I have time to experiment with them again.

    • @TB-wvvvw
      @TB-wvvvw Před měsícem

      @@shanecameron1546 Did you have to change to global closed loop to get the missiles to not need missile components, or was there another way to do it?

  • @Rhondaandjames
    @Rhondaandjames Před rokem +3

    Lol! These things work great. I put one in Split space at The Xenon gate above Hatikvah's choice. They dropped an "I" two "K's" and a handful of small ships on top of it. they didn't last two minutes. One tip, put a small container storage on the back so the base can make repair drones. The only downside is the split don't buy as much of my stuff anymore because they aren't constantly losing ships...

  • @OldGamingGeezer
    @OldGamingGeezer Před rokem +7

    Great stuff. I'm really enjoying your videos on x4, they got me back into the game after a couple of years off from it. Keep up the good work.

  • @sg4tw509
    @sg4tw509 Před rokem +2

    closed loop SAVES MY BRAIN SO MUCH. thank you

  • @steeneugenpoulsen8174
    @steeneugenpoulsen8174 Před rokem +4

    You only have to set weapons once... You COPY the first disc (after adding weapons) when you place the others...
    This is why it is so easy to overbuild defense platforms because you can build any size with just copy and paste each module.

  • @craigbalnaves4326
    @craigbalnaves4326 Před 6 měsíci +3

    Thanks heaps. Never heard about the "closed loop" in any other videos or comments. Well presented video. I put my platform 11K's from the gate and I have the capitol ships teleporting about 15 or 16 K's from the gate so I added some more discs facing backwards. Had I known where they were going to materialize I could have faced the platform that way, but it was so cheap it didn't matter.

    • @FrancisJohnYT
      @FrancisJohnYT  Před 6 měsíci

      I have heard of the teleporting problem before, do you have any mods installed that affect the Xenon? It's just all my Xenon so far as I saw came though the gate like other ships.

    • @craigbalnaves4326
      @craigbalnaves4326 Před 6 měsíci +2

      @@FrancisJohnYT No mods. They were doing it before I built the defence platform because I had 3 lines of laser towers running perpendicular to the gate, about 40 towers in each. The towers started at 4 k's from the gate and went back another 5k's [end at 9 k's from the gate]. So the Capitol ships would jump high and to the side and 12 to 15 k's away from the gate. When I built the platform I just removed one string of towers and left the rest there and built where the towers were. I left the rest there cause I'm lazy and they do still clean up the small ships. I have 3 other platforms now and all these act normally.

  • @brianhauptman
    @brianhauptman Před rokem +5

    AFK farming in space? Of course Francis can cheese this mechanic.

  • @filippe999
    @filippe999 Před 10 měsíci +1

    Thanks for the hot tip, now i can properly defend locations and keep any survivors from fleeing the devastated systems in my campaign of destruction

    • @FrancisJohnYT
      @FrancisJohnYT  Před 10 měsíci +1

      Walling in a faction before going to war like say the Vigor Syndicate is a time honoured tradition. Also helps deal with massive fighter swarms.

  • @WhyNeke
    @WhyNeke Před 25 dny

    I used to build hexagon-shaped defence platform stations around the gate, using Split parts. Place the smallest plot behind the gate and then “shift” it over gate by only increasing its size.
    Now, is it efficient? No. Does it look fucking cool? Hell yes!

  • @nahco3994
    @nahco3994 Před 6 měsíci +1

    Thank you so much. I've been playing this game off and on pretty much since day one, but the closed loop build mode **completely** slipped past my attention.

  • @Mr76Pontiac
    @Mr76Pontiac Před rokem +4

    I watched your video on when you discovered this layout. I use it, but in a 2km radius instead of 1. Considering the costs involved, the extra few credits, worth it if you just want to expand out with more crazy. ;)
    Edit: Oh.. The Closed Loop thing... Wish I knew that before I built the 5 other platforms. {sigh}

  • @Falx01
    @Falx01 Před 13 dny

    1 dock, 4 Boron defense platforms, 8 Argon defense platforms. Boron nets, Argon plasma, beams or flack per your choice for medium Argon turrets. It's a cork.

  • @CuriousMind477
    @CuriousMind477 Před 7 měsíci

    Thank you so much for this. I was looking at reddit posts and so many of the platforms looked incredibly complicated (not to mention expensive), and so I have just been trying to have a few destroyers stationed to stem the tide. I think this will work a lot better lol

  • @borisbojic
    @borisbojic Před rokem +1

    Awesome tip with the all-Argon-stuff … I have the Averice DLC and didn’t even think about it 😅🙈

  • @martinkunz7155
    @martinkunz7155 Před 2 měsíci +2

    16:33 i noticed that the drones also use claytronics and hull parts instead of drone components and smart chips if you change the global preferred build type to "closed loop". I guess the setting you used for the base construction does not carry over, but the global setting applies to the drones.

  • @ratiphi
    @ratiphi Před měsícem

    Excellent tutorial. Just FYI I had to explicitly click on the "Accept Estimate" button to add funds to the construction budget.

  • @huffinLeeroy
    @huffinLeeroy Před 14 dny

    It's probably not the most efficient option, but I love giving my defence platforms about 60 elites with lasers. About 500k each, quick to replace, and they're essentially mobile laser towers that increase the threat range of the platform. It's quite amusing to watch too. They swarm like crazy and melt everything less than a k in a little over a second. A k will wipe them all without taking a scratch though.

  • @LeeAndrewVideos
    @LeeAndrewVideos Před 5 měsíci

    Best video I have seen on this topic, thanks! Also that environment button was a nice bonus, had issues seeing anything in one of the pirate sectors, it was way too bright.

  • @johnfeedback6784
    @johnfeedback6784 Před rokem +2

    I have about a week in my first X4 play through. I built the defence station outside Hatikva's Choice I AND put another at Family Zhin. Then I went and picked a fight with the Xen in Matrix 598 in my Earlking. That day I pulled 107 million in loot drops. I'm regularly pulling 60K+ from the two stations. I have other stations but their just for aggressor control and have no loot collectors (yet).

    • @FrancisJohnYT
      @FrancisJohnYT  Před rokem

      As far as I can tell the defence platforms are insane overkill. Have not seen anything in the base game even scratch them.

  • @jakopath7
    @jakopath7 Před 2 měsíci +1

    Man, it seems so simple but as my station was built in Hatikvah the whole friggin Xenon armada came with a crap load of Ps and two Ks. Guess I need to mobilize my own armada until it gets built lol
    Edit: that worked. I recommend adding four additional discs (one to each end) and maybe a pier at the back to increase firepower and the number of drones. My station was dying and attrition death because it was only repairing 100hp every few seconds.With 150 repair drones it's repairing 200hp at a time and slowly getting back to 100%

  • @_AutoCoder
    @_AutoCoder Před 4 měsíci

    Great vid and info thanks. I just built a similar station (with def bridge arms) at all Xenon choke points and while highly profitable and effective there is an unseen affect on the game: stopping Xenon incursions = less faction ship death = less demand for your factory wares. So.. lots of $ from loot but less $ from factories. In my universe there aren't any full blown wars so far. Also, the factions end up using your defense bases at stepping stones into Xenon space = you gotta beat them to it = steps up the Xenon busting navy phase.

    • @_AutoCoder
      @_AutoCoder Před 4 měsíci +1

      I suggest the Pegasus from ALI wharf w combat engines filled w laser turrets for the loot grabber. Crazy fast and can bounce when it gets hairy then come back. Haven't lost one yet.

  • @K162KingPin
    @K162KingPin Před 10 měsíci +1

    7:00 if you put one of the Disc down, and put your loadout on it, you can then just "copy module" and place the rest of the disc where desired, and they will all already have the loadout from the first one.

  • @lucag1175
    @lucag1175 Před rokem +2

    AWESOME VIDEO. Thank you for this keep them coming. Was wondering what ship are you using

  • @MelfiortheOne
    @MelfiortheOne Před rokem +8

    Perhaps I missed it in the video, as an additional FYI, Administrative Center allows you to capture sectors (if there are no other centres in the sector). You don’t even have to build platforms:)

  • @Johnny_Raw
    @Johnny_Raw Před 6 měsíci

    Thank you mate. Awesome Tutorial!

  • @EricKendrick2
    @EricKendrick2 Před rokem +3

    Admit it, you are just playing a tower defence idle game now ;)

  • @kamilbialo4549
    @kamilbialo4549 Před rokem +2

    Aliens:
    Write its down , write it down 😂

  • @shamgar348
    @shamgar348 Před 3 dny

    Insta subbed! your videos are not only entertaining but also quite detailed! May I ask what is the purpose of the Admin Center on the defence platform?

  • @djgryan
    @djgryan Před 17 hodinami

    hi thanks i love your videos, really helped to get into the game. have you tried putting these defence platforms near the khaak and farming the installation this way?

  • @BL4ckViP3R
    @BL4ckViP3R Před rokem +1

    My first "Gate-Sec" platforms had the issue that they were not wide enough and those pesky little Xenon miners mostly never came through the gate properly but instead spawned bit further away - and starting from there they could easily avoid my station. Now, with my Gate-Secs being wide enough (equipped with L-sized Lasers + Plasmas + Flaks), not a single ship will pass. Ever.

  • @miziu89
    @miziu89 Před rokem +4

    Where is the rest of the newbie guide? You left us on such a cliffhanger and I really want to learn how to make the big bucks 😀

  • @rickjamesbitch7632
    @rickjamesbitch7632 Před rokem +2

    Wow thanks I think I actually learn something useful watching an x4 video 😁

  • @misterblort
    @misterblort Před 2 měsíci +1

    If you copy the disco with the loadout already done it copies the loadout :)

  • @welshgamer1864
    @welshgamer1864 Před 4 měsíci

    I've just spent about 36 hrs on the game and have recently seen this video, and was looking to make one, but as a new player, I've put the tower together with the discs, but the weapons to complete the loadout are missing, what am I missing here? This video is really good and I'll be watching more, so keep up the good work, thank you.

  • @dazzzmanschannel
    @dazzzmanschannel Před 6 měsíci +1

    I put my plot as close as possible in Second Contact close to a Defense Station close to the highway with lots of laser towers.

  • @gcohee
    @gcohee Před 10 měsíci +1

    thank you

  • @ArthurOseven
    @ArthurOseven Před rokem +1

    Informative video. Thanks. Are you in the cockpit on a Pulsar Vanguard?

  • @DrProfessorRobot
    @DrProfessorRobot Před rokem +2

    A little thing to help you when it comes to building modules... I imagine you probably know this, but I don't see you using it in the video, so just in case...
    If you hold down shift while you're rotating a module, instead of smoothly rotating, it'll move in 15 degree snaps. This makes it much easier to get perfect 90 degree rotations and the like

  • @grandfremdling3841
    @grandfremdling3841 Před rokem

    Another great video

  • @user-ty4mw7rk8g
    @user-ty4mw7rk8g Před rokem

    thanks for the videos the help a lot could do do one on commanding ships and setting up command orders

  • @CreatorOfWorlds
    @CreatorOfWorlds Před 8 měsíci +1

    If you care about hitpoints, then don’t use the basic dock but the luxury one.

  • @spectre1725
    @spectre1725 Před 7 měsíci

    Not Great, not terrible is also what the soviet engineers said when reading the radiation charts after the explosion at chernobyl nuclear plant :D

  • @locki13
    @locki13 Před 7 měsíci +1

    This is superb, really worked for me, currently working my way to plugging the pinch points. Quick questions, how do you stop the ships which collect the drops from fleeing straight into the xenon system?!!

    • @FrancisJohnYT
      @FrancisJohnYT  Před 6 měsíci

      Why are your collector ships fleeing to Xenon systems!!
      You can set up no go systems in one of the menus, not specific to a ship but specific to all your automated ships.
      It's to stop traders wandering into dangerous systems, can't remember where it is exactly but a google should be able to locate it.

    • @locki13
      @locki13 Před 6 měsíci +2

      @@FrancisJohnYT many thanks, I found it! Under blacklists; slightly obscure menu, that makes you feel dumb for not noticing. Thanks again! Now my ships don't decide to commit suicide, at least not death by sector jump anyways.

  • @Kraken9911
    @Kraken9911 Před měsícem

    I have closed loop checked and it's still setting up the big laundry list of required parts. Confirmed everything is aragon and exactly what OP suggested.
    Something I'm missing?
    Edit: NM when I started I forgot to set closed loop and even deleting everything but the dock would not enforce it. Had to wipe everything and then it worked correctly.
    Thanks for the vid!

  • @josefrees
    @josefrees Před rokem +2

    Thanks for playing this game for me lmfao

  • @michalbreza7612
    @michalbreza7612 Před 16 dny +1

    really nice video and elegant and efective way to defent gates... I followed ur video click by click, i have all DLCs, but is seems like closed loop building doesnt work for me. It always gives me all weapon parts for construction even though i ensured i used only Argon disc and equipment. Maybe becasue i play as Split it doesnt allow me to cheese it.

    • @FrancisJohnYT
      @FrancisJohnYT  Před 16 dny

      For the closed loop stuff you have to select closed loop before you click commit for the first time.
      You cannot change it after you have clicked the commit button.
      If you have clicked the commit button already you have to cancel every building and start again from scratch.
      I have been caught by that before as well.

    • @michalbreza7612
      @michalbreza7612 Před 6 dny +1

      @@FrancisJohnYT Hi, i did it exaclty step by step as u did but it didnt work, however, one i had alll modules setup, i saved blueprint, deleted everything, loaded blueprint back and selected closed loop again, confirmed changes and than it worked. Strange, but worked finally. Thanks again

  • @shanecameron1546
    @shanecameron1546 Před rokem +2

    I liked this vid (especially the closed loop part) so I built one of these at the bottom of The Void, exactly 10km in front of the gate. I have about 6 Xenon K carcasses (plus lots of small wrecks) floating around the station so it worked, however now when the gate activates the Xenon K/I are appearing 20km away from the gate and flying straight past. Not 100% but i feel like this happens when multiple Xenon hit the gate at once...

    • @FrancisJohnYT
      @FrancisJohnYT  Před rokem

      Weird, I have had the K/I's accelerate through but none managed to slip by without engaging the station.
      Were you in sector or out of sector? I find in sector transits of ships jump about a bit depending on how busy the gate exit is.

    • @shanecameron1546
      @shanecameron1546 Před rokem +1

      @@FrancisJohnYT it's happening both in and out of sector (the void), K/I are appearing in an area up to 30km around the gate. Confirmed it happens with singles as well.... not one has come thru the actual gate (or even close).... I had my carrier fleet behind the defence station (its been defending the sector for weeks) which the xenon would make a b-line for... so I moved that fleet further away and now the xenon are attracted to the defence station first.... a significant litter of bodies around the station when I return from OOS... but watching on the map they are still appearing a long way out when OOS... I have also added L.Beam and missiles as per post below and now catching 90% of small craft too (unless they come thru at speed). I have been watching their arrivals at Holy Vision, and they seem to appear within 10km of the ring, so I will build a defence station there and see what happens.... anyway happy with the overall effect... thanks for posting your video

  • @arseyrc
    @arseyrc Před rokem +1

    Why did you add the Admin Centre? If you plan on taking over the sector it makes sense, but otherwise it seems a bit expensive?

    • @blshouse
      @blshouse Před rokem +4

      That would be why. He put it on the station in this video just to show how.

  • @onlytwogenders420
    @onlytwogenders420 Před rokem +3

    Where is part 2 of your tutorial, I really wanted to understand the midgame better.

  • @Raija1980s
    @Raija1980s Před 2 měsíci

    You should build a scrap yard as well

  • @nravell
    @nravell Před 7 dny

    Seems a little OP

  • @cg1699576400
    @cg1699576400 Před 2 měsíci +1

    I built Defense Tower exactly how you advise, but the turrets never fire, I'm guessing that the turrets are set to "defend" where/how do I change that setting?

    • @FrancisJohnYT
      @FrancisJohnYT  Před 2 měsíci +1

      It's been over a year since I have played. Most turrets should be set to fire at will straight away. I don't think I ever changed their settings. Did you figure it out in the end?

    • @cg1699576400
      @cg1699576400 Před 2 měsíci +1

      @@FrancisJohnYT Yes thank you

  • @lemonoeye
    @lemonoeye Před 4 měsíci

    Instead of a nemesis, get a katana. Way faster in collecting and escaping. And, its practically free!

  • @Jim3864
    @Jim3864 Před měsícem

    about 4 mins in you keep saying Argon build, argon this argon that... but using Teladi disc's... whats that about?

  • @davebriscoe1012
    @davebriscoe1012 Před 4 měsíci

    Do you need to buy turret/shield blueprints?

  • @3jackdaw168
    @3jackdaw168 Před měsícem

    Can someone tell my why the tower I built (exactly like in the video) is pulverizing some of my allies as well? Im getting unauthorized kills on Antigone rep --- is it because im chilling at the tower? should I leave the sector?
    by the way awesome video great advice! Needed something like this since my playthru was just about to get hairy.

    • @aimmlegate
      @aimmlegate Před 27 dny

      Because of flack aoe damage, don’t use it on defense stations in npc territory, replace it with beam.

    • @3jackdaw168
      @3jackdaw168 Před 27 dny

      @@aimmlegate thanks! after around 50 hours more gameplay i noticed these def platforms dont last anyway, when xenon I comes in they dont have enough hull to out gun it alone. Its not a leave and forget kinda thing, but I havent tried building 2 at a time yet.

  • @EngaFFS
    @EngaFFS Před 10 měsíci +1

    I set up that 5disc defense platform. It got taken down pretty fast. Might be one or more mods making Xenon more powerful? 🤔
    But biggest issue is collateral damage. So not many hours in the Argon went from +25 to negative. How do I get around that issue?

    • @FrancisJohnYT
      @FrancisJohnYT  Před 10 měsíci +1

      Generally I try and not stay in the system as the platforms for to long, out of system combat their is no friendly fire. Also removes a bunch of the targeting inaccuracy.
      But generally I never had any issues with friendly fire, I usually only place the platform at locations where Xenon come through. Not many live friendly ships nearby.

    • @EngaFFS
      @EngaFFS Před 10 měsíci

      @@FrancisJohnYT Ahhh. That explains it.. I was in the same system I think. I will try one more time :) Cheers mate.. Love your vids :D

  • @bolinar6434
    @bolinar6434 Před rokem +1

    Have to say in my game these get obilirated by about constand raids of s-m class ships and after that will K get in.

    • @FrancisJohnYT
      @FrancisJohnYT  Před rokem

      Are you running mods to increase the threat? I have seen multiple K's get evaporated by these defence platforms.

    • @bolinar6434
      @bolinar6434 Před rokem

      @@FrancisJohnYT nope vanilla. Somereason game just desided to send constany stream of fighters even skipping 100 l towers. After fixing and giving trade ship has been ok

    • @bolinar6434
      @bolinar6434 Před rokem

      Basically they sniped the flanks off

  • @josephprins1258
    @josephprins1258 Před 10 měsíci

    This thing is invincible. Is there a TER version using only TER guns and stations? As far as I can tel the TER stuff is bad.

  • @o0pinkdino0o
    @o0pinkdino0o Před 8 měsíci +1

    Do you eventually get Marines to recruit from your own platforms ?

    • @FrancisJohnYT
      @FrancisJohnYT  Před 8 měsíci

      Not that I can recall. Some NPC stations give better marines than average, you can google the good one's if your interested.

  • @DeanO418
    @DeanO418 Před 6 měsíci

    when trying to set this up, got to adding guns and it said I have no guns on the list. How do I get to add guns.

  • @OGSomeOne
    @OGSomeOne Před 9 měsíci +1

    I tried 3 x 2 discs and 2 k destroyers came through and killed one of the discs before I could do anything. So I go 3 x 4 now :D Also blew the 1m6 dock out for a 3m6. Got tired of some random trader camping my dock so I couldn't land the corvette I use to harvest the drops. On active docks, i.e. Hatikvah 1, I would build a L XL dock so I could park a destroyer, in case you get multiples of the station killers, there is something with a heavy hit in system. The Destroyer will help defend the base with the turrets while docked.

    • @FrancisJohnYT
      @FrancisJohnYT  Před 9 měsíci +1

      Strange the K's should have gotten shredded before they even got in range. You got any mod installed to make the enemies more dangerous?

    • @OGSomeOne
      @OGSomeOne Před 9 měsíci +1

      @@FrancisJohnYT playing vanilla, as I have not played through x4 completely and steam is notorious for removing access to the badges when you mod. I noticed that the turrets can be upgraded just like the ship weapons. Probably had generic turrets. But, I've seen 2 K and an I walk through on my 3 x 4 and melt

  • @bigtoemagoo9257
    @bigtoemagoo9257 Před 11 měsíci

    New to game really, Why does no one mention Boron tech? Are their Disc Platforms not good? They seem to be above average turret/shield slots.

  • @angrypidgeon1714
    @angrypidgeon1714 Před rokem

    or you can first build the loadout of 1st disc, then copy the disc along with the loadout :P

  • @falklandmoon4328
    @falklandmoon4328 Před měsícem

    Will this work with VRO in 7.10?

  • @Maxtorym
    @Maxtorym Před 6 měsíci +1

    How do you see the range from the gate = 10 km?

    • @FrancisJohnYT
      @FrancisJohnYT  Před 6 měsíci +1

      If you are in a ship and select any object the HUD will tell you how far away the item is.

  • @timthorson52
    @timthorson52 Před rokem

    Will a fighter go around the station to harrass other stations, traders, or transit to other systems?
    Does this actually take diwn full invasion fleets, including "I"s mixed with "K"s and fighters?

    • @FrancisJohnYT
      @FrancisJohnYT  Před rokem +1

      Enemy ships can potentially leave the gate fast enough to skip by the platform, but I have not seen an I or K manage to do that.
      Where I have placed them and observed everything got drawn to the platform and destroyed.
      It can stop entire invasions, can take out three xenon capital ships at the same time. It also comes with repair down to heal chip damage in between waves.

    • @timthorson52
      @timthorson52 Před rokem

      @FrancisJohnYT thanks for getting back to me. I tested out a similar station since I posted this.
      I was very surprised when I checked on it later and saw a dead I.
      It apparently took a lot of damage, I had forgotten to have it make repair drones, and it dropped to about 74% health. I did have a couple extra modules on that one. i think a pair of the straight argon ones with similar weapons, and I think that damage came from multiple fights.
      I did notice fighters slip by, but adding a boron ring defense with a few large ion net turrets solved that problem. It's pretty rare that anything slips past without being engaged now. I even noticed that it can hit some things using the travel drive, trying to go in the gate from elsewhere.
      Thanks for the video. This is becoming my key to resolving xenon problems, and I think it'll work against ZYA and most other threats.
      It's good to know the "standard" small one can fend off a K + I attack.
      I haven't tried it against a terran attack. How well will it work when getting hit by a syn, asgard or the other terran one with long range weapons? I suppose a similar story for the hop or argon, who can at least field long ranges destroyer weapons, split's are only 6-7km.

  • @magicwordxyzzy
    @magicwordxyzzy Před 11 měsíci

    How can these be modified to be in-sector friendly, to minimize friendly fire risk while still being effective? Even if more disks are required, it's be worth it to not have to avoid all my sectors that neighbor Xenon space.

    • @aimmlegate
      @aimmlegate Před 27 dny

      Replace flak with medium beams, they have less dps but almost no chances of friendly fire.
      Could add couple of bridge modules with large beams

  • @Parzival117
    @Parzival117 Před rokem +1

    Where do I get the flak guns, I don't have that option?

    • @FrancisJohnYT
      @FrancisJohnYT  Před rokem +1

      You get access to flak from four races, Argon, paranid, teladi and split. You need to have 10 relations with them to buy it.

  • @the_elder_gamer
    @the_elder_gamer Před rokem

    Any chance you'll be giving _Farworld Pioneers_ a try?

  • @frag0mat1c
    @frag0mat1c Před rokem +1

    What weapons would you use on a terran version?

    • @FrancisJohnYT
      @FrancisJohnYT  Před rokem

      I don't have enough experience with terran weapons to comment definitively unfortunately.

  • @christhompson9140
    @christhompson9140 Před rokem

    I built one but it either cant range far enough to shoot and kill a xenon I or soemthing else is messed up?

    • @FrancisJohnYT
      @FrancisJohnYT  Před rokem

      You built plasma turrets on the platforms and they actually got built? Double check to make sure the necessary components were delivered.
      I had issues in the past when I did not use the closed loop system, the turrets required components that were not available within range so the turrets never got built until I manually did a cargo run.

  • @SergeyPupkoMusic
    @SergeyPupkoMusic Před 11 měsíci

    Lol, I completely overkilled my gate guards... 😂 something like 1500 M turrets and 700 L turrets... 🤦‍♂️🤣

  • @DoctorChelo
    @DoctorChelo Před 5 měsíci

    What is the use of the admin building?

    • @FrancisJohnYT
      @FrancisJohnYT  Před 5 měsíci

      The Admin Building allows you to claim a sector as your own assuming no other faction has buildings left there.

  • @xxGHOSTxx56
    @xxGHOSTxx56 Před rokem

    i really hope, that comes on humble with the full game (dlcs etc)

  • @craota
    @craota Před rokem

    My Argon Administrative center is totally different than yours... Are you using mods? Edit: NVM.. I just realized that's a TEL admin center

  • @maxiu..
    @maxiu.. Před rokem

    100 hours in X4 and after thinking "defense platforms SUCK" I find out from this video you actually have to build the weapons on each module.. uhh

    • @FrancisJohnYT
      @FrancisJohnYT  Před rokem

      Yeah.... X4 has a bit of a learning curve alright.

  • @Wazza3110
    @Wazza3110 Před rokem +1

    Have tried this 3 times in Hatikva's choice - Every time I get the build complete and all the resources in place, as soon as the builder shows up, the AI sends a couple of K's through and blows up my building before I can do anything. So frustrating!

    • @ianwilliams7740
      @ianwilliams7740 Před rokem +1

      I believe the AI only responds to stations being built once the builder is assigned. You can collect the build resources and once you have them, then assign the builder - which can be much quicker - especially if you're not abusing the cheese "closed loop" system like being done here.

    • @salemprompthous3820
      @salemprompthous3820 Před rokem +1

      As Ian Williams said, having some freighters on standby holding most of the cargo, getting the platforms up and ready is a lot faster.
      If you have the money; have a couple destroyers, each with a small fighter contingent, to defend the plot(s). Unless the Xenon come through with a huge fleet of I and K (the most I've seen in one attack was 4 I, three K and a whole bunch of frigates and fighters. My 4 Odyseus, each with 5 fighters on intercept orders, made metallic swiss cheese out them in no time. I did pilot one of the Destroyers, not sure if that was a benefit or a detriment, honestly), two or three destroyers with a nice loadout should be sufficient

    • @Wazza3110
      @Wazza3110 Před rokem +1

      @@salemprompthous3820 Will try that

  • @isaacsanchezsancho2306
    @isaacsanchezsancho2306 Před rokem +1

    Only 24 minuts?

  • @juliotsd
    @juliotsd Před 4 měsíci +1

    can you please speak more faster! please!

    • @TB-wvvvw
      @TB-wvvvw Před měsícem

      You can change the speed in the video settings (it looks like a little gear).

  • @stopbegging4likes
    @stopbegging4likes Před rokem +2

    Why you need a dock?

    • @sunstormer5064
      @sunstormer5064 Před rokem +4

      For the loot drop ship to dock with the assigned station.

    • @ianwilliams7740
      @ianwilliams7740 Před rokem +3

      i believe you need one for the drone components to be dropped off

    • @alganhar1
      @alganhar1 Před rokem +1

      Manager and Drone components. The materials for the station and the weapons/shields will be dropped off into the construction storage so do not need a dock, but the drone components need a dock. As for the manager you need a dock to assign a manager, as far as I recall you cannot assign a manager if you do not have a dock.