Rapper Killed and ATE His Roommate
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When Tynisha Ysais was found dead in her apartment, it looked like she had been attacked, and eaten, by an animal. The man responsible was found wandering in the streets nearby, high on PCP and covered in her blood - the rapper, Big Lurch (Antron Singleton). His label said the PCP made him act out his murderous song lyrics and become a cannibal, but Antron claimed he was set up.
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Not only is it disgusting that he walked away from her screaming, he went to her friend and casually commented about her being potentially SAd absolutely vile
He didn’t walk he weeled 😭 , but yeah it’s sick
And hours later!! If he said something sooner it could have stopped this heinous attack
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@matildajane6446 how dare you make me laugh like this? Now I'm going to hell 😂😂😂
@@JB-bm1to im comin with u 💀💀
The man who walked away and left that woman screaming is absolutely evil. I hope he feels guilt for the rest of his life, knowing that if he had done the right thing that he could’ve saved her. Men like him disgust me.
To be fair he was in a wheelchair so he didn’t walk anywhere , maybe he thought he couldn’t do anything at a slight disadvantage
@@jaslynn_nicholehe could still have said something to the neighbours who carried him downstairs tho... and he didn't do that either.
Absolutely disgusted. Some people have no heart.
@@jaslynn_nichole how careless to think you’re the only person able to help.
All it takes for evil to succeed, is for good men to stand by and do nothing 😔
My mother was schizophrenic, and, honestly, during one of her breaks, this makes sense. Like how he neatly folded his clothes before taking his walk. My mom once obsessively folded the sheets of my bed, in front of me, and then pulled out a knife, stabbed my arm, and demanded to know where I had kidnapped myself to and accused me of being an alien who replaced her daughter. So, this kinda makes sense to me that he might have imagined the pit, but it was him. And the blackout makes sense to me too
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CZcams COMMENTS CASUALLY DROPPING THE CRAZIEST STORIES?
Woah, so capgras delusion on top of the schizophrenic episode? That's awful. I'm so sorry you went through that.
I hate to tell you this, but I wanna see this made in a segment on Creepshow or another horror anthology.
I'm so sorry that you went through that. I hope she got the help she needed and I hope you stay safe.
I’m sorry but the fact that Tynisha’s parents don’t think he did it blows my mind. Antron was literally found covered in blood! How does that happen if he just walked in and found a piece of meat and ate it?!
Wow. I wonder why. Who is the boyfriend...?
This case isn't as blatant as that, do some more research and watch other videos including police evidence. You'll find out why the victim's parents didn't blame Big Lurch... pay some respect you're detached from this case and so am I so don't throw out accusations so carelessly
@@Tm-li4gm why just make vague statements? If you know something that we don't, after watching the video of someone who usually does really thorough research, at least explain or list a source to back up what you're saying. From what we can all find so far it seems really straightforward
Despite how long this video is, it’s very misinformed and is missing a lot of details. All the bloody fingerprints, handprints, and foot prints at the murder scene did not belong to Lurch. That same night, Taneisha was planning on leaving her abusive boyfriend. Not to mention that his lawyer( who also was the owner of his record label) didn’t represent him correctly and just made him plead insanity. What Taneishas mother believed is that her boyfriend killed her, and Lurch being in his delusional state, saw her body as meat and began consuming her. Because he did in fact eat parts of her, they charged him with the murder.I’m not saying he didn’t or did do it, but he must definitely deserves a retrial
Yea I can see it, walks in, sees a dead body, takes a couple of bites as she screaming, tells the friend she looks said & just walls out. Innocent. 😂😂😂 come on. They're building river that goes from the pacific ocean all the way through to Idaho, give me 10,000 & become a prime investor today.
As an emergency room nurse, I can vouch for the fact that PCP makes people act like animals.
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Nurse as well and you’re so right!
As an ER nurse can you comment on how it effects people’s mental health when the US healthcare failure cuts them off when they are in the middle of treatment and these patients are left to their own devices??
@@ajpthequeen Thank God I’m Canadian! ❤️🇨🇦🇨🇦🇨🇦
@@loiscassels8966is it true that firefighters can't fight the wild fires in BC unless they have the c*vid vaccine? I recently saw something about this. And a woman in Canada needed a transplant but they wouldn't operate because she didn't have the c*vid vaccine. She died.
it’s sad that you have to remind people that these cases are REAL and that they can’t say whatever they want about victims.
I completely agree. ):
It’s not even just the victims either! So many people online are feeling qualified to try and delve into some of my favorite content creators’ personal lives, and I’m really turned off by it. Like, if you’re not dating someone, how is their personal life or recovery or whatever super personal thing, any of your business, you know? And then, some of the creators get really bogged down trying to prove themselves to folx who’ve never even met them.
Ok, rant complete
i completely agree with you. its so sad to see people saying inconsiderate things not realizing that these are real people.
i mean freedom of speech and all that
Agreed...
I will never understand how ANYONE would volunteer to smoke/ingest PCP. I remember hearing a story of a woman smoking PCP and putting her newborn baby in the oven, switched it on and "cooked" her baby. Her neighbours called the police because of the smell of the baby burning to death.
Big Lurch knew how it affected him and still did it. I understand he had a lot going on but you can't blame others for taking drugs especially when BL took it before and ended up having a full psychotic break. RIP to the victim.
Omg I remember that story, I never knew she was on PCP. Just shows how dangerous this drug is and how it can easily lead to terrible outcomes.
Immediately thought of that case as well throughout this one as well.
That’s what I thought of as well. Also the mother who killed and dismembered her baby on PCP
My God... dare I Google these
thats a lie made up story
While he is guilty I believe this falls on the insurance companies/medical industry. They set him up to fail. While they couldn’t have known what would happen, they are fully aware how these withdrawals & pain management issues cause.
I wonder if he thought he became a dog while high. I mean, he was barking. Maybe the pit bull thing was real to him. This whole thing is disturbing. I can’t fathom the victim’s mom finding him innocent. Great storytelling on a tragic case. Don’t do drugs kids. Rest in peace, Tynisha.
ohhh connecting the barking to the pitbull is smart. Would be interesting to hear from a user of the drug to see if it's possible.
Some drugs are fine, just don't do anything like PCP or meth.
@@jenniferj5324um…. No fent, x, coke , crack , heroin all that is bad for you don’t so drugs period weed is a plant so is shrooms so Ian add those
I think this is what happened even weed for some people like myself is dangerous I genuinely think he has no knowledge of what he did but because he did it he should do the time
@@luxurypetscz I wasn’t a regular user but it’s completely possible. I knew someone who would think he was a three year old, this was a huge macho guy most of the time, when he got dusted. I only ever got dosed and it was terrifying, each time. Time didn’t pass the same, I didn’t feel like I was inside my body but at the same time I felt like I was trapped inside myself and could only envision myself wriggling like a grub. I just know I screamed for hours because a friend was there who hadn’t gotten laced. I’m sure regular use of it blurs things even more between reality and psychosis
Honestly I hope Derrick desperately needs help one day and everyone just leaves him. Absolutely disgusting behavior. Props to Tynisha’s friend for not hesitating to go check on her.
I think Derrick and the record label needed to be held accountable for their parts in this tragedy.
And Thomas for bringing that psycho into their home with their children at that. He should be charged with child endangerment as well
@@Angel-jn3gjto be fair, he hadn’t showed any signs of being dangerous before this happened, if anything the drug dealer roommate is the bad one for raising his children in environment where all the adults are taking hard drugs and distributing them.
@@pandapooh1668 it is the drug dealers children. It’s his house and his kids.
Unfortunately, in California no one can be held accountable for not helping out another person who is in danger or in a emergency situation
@@arielperez3613 to be fair, if derrick could hear tynisha screaming, the neighbors would have as well. why didnt they stop it? they would be as guilty for not stopping it as derrick was in that case. i think it's pretty fair that he doesnt get charged since the neighbors didnt either.
I love how Eleanor always prefaces these with "I mean no disrespect to anyone I talk about in this video" and then she (rightfully) calls the "friend" a coward and all sorts of things, saying she hates him after he left the apartment.
The fact that the doctors didn't release him with a weaning plan off the morphine is criminal. That pain is intense. I know for a fact that withdrawals are hell.
PCP is such a dangerous substance. A young woman lost her life, two young kids lost their mother and a man became a monster because of it. To think that perhaps had he not been thrown out by his health insurance before being completely healed none of this would have happened. Just awful
I know, right? It’s kinda sad how the American healthcare system works and that he had to result to self medicating. :(
I Don't Beelive that to be True but ok a different take
i still find it crazy it’s legal to rip someone off of a pain killer just like that like that’s a disaster and addicted waiting to ahppen
You're absolutely correct. If you look up the history of strong pain killers and why/how they were prescribed and created drug addicts all over the US.
They can cut people off of legal medication, and when people are still in pain, they feel like they can't function without them. And street drugs are cheaper but dangerous.
The government and the insurance companies could easily win the "war on drugs," but it's better to control the population by keeping them addicted and criminal.
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Soon as Eleanor mentioned PCP I was like 'Yup. I see why he ate his roommate'. Totally agree about Derrick being a coward. Absolutely disgusting just walking away like that. I hope he feels some guilt
He doesn't have to feel guilt.... He already proofed how useless and worthless he is. I just hope his surroundings keep remembering him, cause ppl like that can excuse anything with their delusions.
I mean he’s in a wheelchair, he didn’t walk anywhere…
But yeah, absolutely terrible
They ALL should feel guilt. All animals
@@bonniewade1931 I meant in a metaphorical sense
Do you know what I think it’s super messed up? Someone had to help him get back out of the apartment, so how did they not hear what was going on as well? Someone should’ve done something but I think you’re less than a human for being a coward. You might be less than human if you eat someone’s face off though.
derrick is also guilty because how can you actually leave hearing someone scream for help? THEN go tell her friend like it’s local gossip? disgusting.
Nothing about this is funny but you saying "getting money and fucking bitches" killed me
same 😭
ikr 😅
I always find it extra sad when the murderer has convinced their victims family they didn’t do it despite all of the evidence. That’s manipulation on another level
Yeah, I am struggling to understand how Tynisha's mother is convinced it wasn't him. Denial to the extreme?
@@sfcitygirl88that’s what I’m saying there is sooo much evidence it’s crazy
Yeah that threw me a little. How is it her boyfriends fault? I mean yes he was the dealer BUT he is not the one that stabbed, ripped and ate her. So disgusting!
$$$ I'm sure the label paid them to say that for public image.
@@refinnej5302or they wanted him out and able to make music and $$so they could get a cut of it. I wouldn't put it past the owner of the label to attempt to make a deal with the victims family.
Two things can be true at the same time. Her boyfriend being abusive AND Antron killing and mauling her. My dad was a cop and he told me of people on PCP getting shot multiple times and still running at them, trying to kill them. PCP can "turn" people into zombies with the violence and weird desire to rip and chew flesh.
I'd go one step further and say 'Three things can be true at the same time'. His lawyer probably DID fuck up his case on purpose. Well, fucked it up on purpose is probably the wrong term to use, because there wasn't much any lawyer could have done to even try to salvage anything about this case in the first place. But I do believe he didn't really give a fuck about even trying to make things better for his client. If he did, he would have just incriminated himself so he probably did take the opportunity to strike a deal with the prosecution.
It's embalming fluid Right??
@@sicilyny5375nope
Yikes, just alcohol makes me bitey.... I'll stay away from PCP for the safety of everyone 😂
He is a horror rapper rapping about canibalism etc, and now he is a cannibal himself. Crazy story.
When the label offered to "nurse him back to health" they were letting him know "don't worry about the drugs, we'll get you what you need".
my ex and i used to smoke those cigarettes (15 years ago). at that time it was called "smoking wet. " his cousin went way too hard one or and ended up having a total psychotic break where we had to lock him in our bedroom for his own safety until he sobered up a bit and we could take him to the hospital. it was terrifying, and i never did it again
My HS biology teacher died because of PCP and Ecstacy. He was shot by the police 6 times at a hotel because he broke through his handcuffs while lunging at the officers. It's extremely dangerous and makes you feel like you're superhuman... Its awful.
The school didn't fire him after knowing he is on drugs?
@zurielsss No he had resigned on the last day of school. The school, the students and his family had no idea. This came as a shock to the entire community.
Woah that's crazy.
And it makes you hallucinate and makes you see things that aren't there. And PCP stays in your spinal cord for the rest of your life. When people who take PCP and they crack their backs, they can start feeling the high of the PCP that's in their spine. It's so dangerous !
PCP does give you superhuman strength.
All Derek had to do is the use the phone that he called for drugs to call the police... how disgusting
As a writer, I totally agree with not using lyrics and art against people in court. I presented a paper on how Oscar Wilde’s Picture of Dorian Gray was used against him in court and it was just completely barbaric. I am a super positive person and a lot of people who read my writing ask why it’s so dark. I have killed so many characters but I wouldn’t dream of doing it in real life!
I love Oscar Wilde so much 😭
Writer or not, it's clearly just a lame attempt at (non-literary) character assassination which is always BS.
exactly. people are always looking for parallels between the story and the author's real life... it's almost like people cannot imagine that a writer actually uses their imagination to make stuff up...
How could the neighbors NOT hear her screams!?
i know that everyone handles situations differently but as a victim of rape it infuriates me that derrek could have saved tenisha and didn’t. he was 100% able to make a difference. literally disgusting
Literally, he could’ve stopped it, or even if he just told the neighbor that was helping him
I had to write a huge essay in high school on PCP for chemistry class. The teacher wanted ALL the details. Everything we could find. One part of it was to find a case in the news past or present that involved the drug we were assigned to research (each of us had a different drug.) I found a case similar to this where a couple while high on PCP had started to eat each other while alive and conscious. Just grabbed a knife and took turns cutting chunks and feeding each other. In the end he very very violently SA'd her and beat her to death. The details were gruesome and just horrifying. The guy ended up jumping off a 20 story building. It scared the crap out of me researching it. This research project was our teacher's way of teaching us how horrid drugs are and why we don't want to do them. It worked on most of us.
My insurance tried to tell me my terminal cancer was a pre-existing condition so they wouldn't pay for anything after the initial surgery. So yeah, the insurance here is horrid.
May I ask what case this was?
@lucasmaguire5014 This was over 30yrs ago, sorry. I don't remember.
@@Takillama ahhhhhhhhh you’re good
@@lucasmaguire5014what did you mean by his good, did you mean his jab at the insurance industry in the last paragraph ?
@@munaabdillahi9631 I meant he was ok
also if she was mauled by a “dog” as the parents believe would their not be bloody paw prints all over the floor? insane
I am so amazed at how insane people really are while living amongst us as normal functioning people.
This is actually such a sad case when you realize that a series of events set in motion by pure chance that, had those events never happened, probably wouldn’t have ended the way it did. Imagine where and who Antron could be if someone hadn’t driven drunk and crashed into him. Or if his insurance never dropped his care. Or if he had the support to fight against withdrawal so he never turned to hard drugs to self medicate for his pain. It’s absolutely insane that he came within an inch of dying and then within an inch of being paralyzed only to go on to do what he did. He was so lucky to make it out alive and more able-bodied than he could’ve been.. just to end up murdering someone. Damn.
stop trying to make people feel bad for this monster. y’all are sick in the head. you write paragraphs about him, but nothing about the victim that was tortured and killed all because HIS life didn’t go well.
This
@@queenc9570no one's trying to make anyone feel bad for him, they're just saying that if some of the events that happened, didn't, then things might've been different. it's pure speculation, not empathy
@@queenc9570 I’m not trying to make people feel bad for him? There’s no excuse for what he did. I’m just trying to emphasize that good people can turn into bad people at the drop of a hat all because of a series of random unfortunate events. Like I’m sure you were a very nice person at some point in time but then you weren’t hugged enough and now you just blast people on the internet so people talk to you. It’s all right dear, you’re entitled to your opinions, however apathetic and jaded they may be, okay? ☺️
many cases can be looked at that way..if this happened then that wouldn't have happened.."victim of circumstances" excuses in some ways. It is truly horrible though things that pull people down these paths to do horrendous things. But we don't know how much of a 'good guy" he even was prior.
Lurch in the Addams family is just mostly non verbal, which might make him creepy but he’s actually the kindest and most nurturing one in the house.
This makes his stage name painfully ironic. The original Lurch was a gentle giant.
you rang
I loooooved lurch growing up. Gomez as well. Growing up with a raging alcoholic for a dad made lurch and Gomez look like the most loving gentle men I’d ever seen. 🥰
Lurch was nice
My face when you said you’ve never seen The Addams Family 😭 I almost broke my jaw off with how hard it dropped
It was hard listening to what happened to Tanisha. Probably one of the most horrifying things I've heard so far. Her poor babies I hope they are doing well and are safe now
“that was actually misogynistic!” and “is the pit bull in the room with us??” might be some of my FAV eleanor quotes of all time 😂
I’d add “he was now just rawdogging his injuries” to that list 😂😂
i was looking for this comment 💀💀
I think what she said before that was hysterical, hearing her say f*ck some b*tches, 🤣
Came here to say the same thing. Her cringe moments are fire 😂
Yep. Her accent makes it all sound so funny, even on a serious topic.
The way I shrieked when Eleanor said “fuckin bitches” so casually 😂😂😂😂😂
I was looking for a comment like this because I was low key in shock I couldn’t stop laughing
Lol! Yup...cracked me up too! She says things the way they are, and knowing she's not "above" being real just makes me like her more.
The way she curses is so cute.. the way she says fucked up.. lol😂
me too bro
Same lmao, I was so shocked 😂😂😂
Wait, but what happened to Derek? Did he ever get into trouble for not reporting what was happening to Tanisha before she was killed?? Is that even illegal for him to not do anything 😐
i don't know if, legally, the POLICE could charge him with anything. but Tynisha's parents could 100% sue him for something - don't know what, but a case could be made
As someone who plans on getting a roommate in the future sometime this decade, I find this case just absolutely abysmal.
This is easily one of the disturbing cases I've ever heard
My aunt and 4 yo cousin were murdered by someone who was high on PCP in 2007. That day has forever changed my life. As you can imagine, I absolutely cannot stand being around anyone who is on PCP.
P.S. The stench of that drug is horrid and highly detectable. If you smell it you instantly know what it is. Most major cities in the US has a high rate of PCP users. It’s truly horrible
So so sorry for your loss 💔 may they rest in peace together 🥺🤍 I hope today is a good day for you hun
I too am sorry for your loss, I always feel that those words feel and seem so empty because there are no words to describe the pain that you have been through. I hope you are doing well ❤
@@Shiba_Draws I really appreciate it♥️
@@selenaphelps1150 I greatly appreciate you for your kind words. The past 15 years has been a journey, my family and I are still coping with the trauma. As the year progress, it has gotten easier but we will continue to take it one day at a time.
I am so sorry for your lost 🙏🏽❤️
Appreciate your new addition to your disclaimer. It's obvious how much compassion for you have for the victims
I use to smoke liquid PCP as a teen after school. Usually black out around 230 memory comes back around 730 it’s like playing Russian roulette each timeand it’s a nightmare. My actions on it put me in juvie at 14 for a year but I’m glad it happened cus I’ve had my shit together and never looked back
I am a paraplegic with severe nerve pain who became addicted to opiates. In my opinion, I don't think he sought out PCP solely for pain management. Opiates are much easier to get a hold of and a much more reliable way of managing pain. I think he was an extremely low point and sought out something that could detach him from his reality, especially considering he knew the dissociative effects of PCP had on him in the past. I think his emotional and physical pain was greater than his ability to reason.
They r a lot more expensive tho, babe. & This was 20 yrs ago in Texas, maybe opiates were hard to find.**& BTW I am awfully sorry to hear about ur predicament. Good luck, hun.
@NyxAfterDark hi!! Yes I will admit I have no idea what the drug market was back then or even what it's like in Texas today. When i mentioned opiates i wasnt specific but i meant heroin. I'm also thinking about what happened in the 2000s with Pfizer and the pushing of opiates medically and wonder if thaf had happened yet? Could he have just gone to a corrupt clinic like so many eventually did? I'm not sure and this is all hypothetical and not necessarily important to the story, I was just trying to understand his mindset cus it makes 0 sense to me and probably 99.9% of people who have heard this story lol
I was wondering this like why wouldn't you just go buy percs or even heroin
The same reason tht coke addicts go to meth, cheaper and much easier to get
When he was arrested he was “barking like a dog” then later on he blamed it on a Pitt bull… him he’s the Pitt bull he IS the dog.
I love the relaxed and down to earth way yourself, Eleanor presents your videos. You don’t feel you’re listening to something heavy & dark, you are cheerful without being inappropriate for the type of content & I love the fact you make such long episodes. Loveeeee💞
Good LORD. I listen to a lot of true crime, and not many of the cases faze me. This one, however, was genuinely stomach-turning. My heart goes out to poor Tynisha, may she rest in peace. The contrast between Alyssa's incredible bravery and Derrick's cold-blooded apathy is insane. I hope she's okay, and I hope he gets what he deserves. And the fucking NERVE of that record company to shamelessly try to profit off such a gruesome tragedy!!!
Great job, Eleanor and team! Beautifully presented and researched as always.
i never thought i’d hear Eleanor say “get money, fucking bitches” lmao
Ha, Eleanor has posted your comment on her IG story 😂👊
@@hayleyb2552 omg i missed it 😔😔😭
The way I would haunt my family if they didn't think my killer deserved prison time .
To be fair, PCP is like having a psychotic break. He honestly wouldn’t know what he was doing.
😂😂😂😂 I would probably do it too....like "how dare they " lol
@@jennaxoxox4821shut up
This is such an intense and horrific story. May Tynisha rest in peace. 🕊️ Such a bizarre response from so many involved in this case… You are such a brilliant story teller!! 👏🏼 (I’m new to your channel and I can’t stop binging! I am so appreciative for the subtitles you have! 🫶🏼)
this case is horrific in so many ways.. Derick deserve some sort of time aswell. How can he walk away knowing something is happening to a vulnerable woman..
I think it's interesting that he was "barking like a dog" when the officers came to arrest him and then he later blamed it on a pitbull in court. Maybe the pitbull was inside him all along...
he got that dawg in him
Yeah if I’m remembering correctly Austin harrouff also thought he was a dog when he attacked and ate that couple
I thought that as soon as she said “is the pit bull in the room with us right now?” I was like wait…. That could literally explain half of this
omg i feel for alyssa so much that poor woman seeing her friend like that and hearing the story from someone who could of prevented it and then SEEING THE PERSON WHO DID IT TOO JUST IN THE STREET this is beyond traumatizing for sure
Just have to say Eleanor your content helps me so much through seasonal depression and dark times. I often forget the things i enjoy and then end up on your channel and your kind, respectful energy brings me so much light. It has been such an experience watching you and your content grow and develop, thank you ily 🥰
WHEN YOU MENTIONED A LITTLE PIECE OF HEAVEN MY JAW DROPPED
PCP is a terrifying drug man …. When my mom was a little kid a guy high on PCP broke into her house, nearly killed her dog with a lead pipe, and it took 6 cops to fully restrain him. It’s horrific to think how much it can alter someone. There’s no excuse for what he did, and he deserves to stay behind bars forever for it. So heartbreaking what happened to that poor woman, and also - Derrick is the worst person in any case I’ve heard. Ugh makes my blood boil
At first I felt kinda bad for Antron, but as the case goes on I’m just not really buying the whole “I was out of my mind on pcp” thing. Reasons being
1. He had taken PCP before to the point of being hospitalized, but had never tried to kill and eat someone else before.
2. He WAITED until Thomas had left and then specifically went after Tynisha.
3. The fact that his PCP levels were 5 nano grams away from being negligible.
4. Him telling Derrick that he’s gonna “go get some p*ssy” and targeting Tynisha shows his OWN intent.
Maybe Tynisha rejected his advances and he “snapped” bc of the PCP but either way, there was some vile and heinous shit going on that had nothing to do with PCP.
Agreed. I'd say that the biggest role the PCP had to play here was making him feel like he *could* do what he wanted to do, rather than causing him directly to do it.
@@KittyCat260 yes I 100% agree with that
I will also tie in that he is bipolar so I’m assuming even with the little bit of pcp, because remember Thomas and tynisha had as much as him but he felt it harder , like I’m bipolar and tried an edible and hallucinated so I’m assuming maybe his was heightened by his already chemical imbalance
4!!!! Like he went after her with the clear intent to SA her... fully conscious and aware of his surroundings. I can totally imagine him going to r@pe her, get mad that she's defending herself or something, mudering her either on purpose or by accident and then canibalizing her either because of the drugs or to get the insanity plea.
I just... want to point out the PCP could have been laced with something else? AFAIK, you don't just dump a sample into a system and it tells you what drugs someone is on, you have to test for specific ones and considering what PCP is, the police would probablty just stop at that. We also don't even know if the "I'm gonna go get some p_ssy" actually happened, or if he said something else, or eeven nothing at all, and Derrick lied to save his own ass by saying "I thought he was just raping her" like that's better. He does have reason to lie and it's a small enough lie to maintain. Even if it did happen, all it does is show Antron was willing to commit SA or had convinced himself Tynisha was interested, not commit murder and cannibalism.
Antron also never showed these tendencies when sober, or at any other time when he had zero control, so why would he suddenly just decide to do this if not because of the drugs? IMO it makes sense if there was something wrong with the angel dust that wasn't tested or that had already been through his system by the time he was picked up by the police.
This is such a wild case! Thanks so much for covering! Be safe out there everyone ❤
As a recovered heroin addict, I can say just the pain of the withdrawals from opiates alone is enough to drive someone insane.. let alone the pain, stress and pcp with it. I just can’t even imagine he was even close to his right state of mind
ellie! im from brazil and a case that happened here in 2008 are being spoken a lot again because netflix made a documentary. isabella nardoni was a 6yo girl who was killed by her father and stepmother, being thrown out of the window from the 6th (if im not mistaken) floor. they said she fell but police found out she was suffering from abuse before that and it certainly wasnt an accident, as they told. you should look it up!
I found it so hard to heard cases about kids. Poor little girl.
What is the Netflix doc called?
@@LittleMissBettyPage A life too short: The Isabella Nardoni Case
Omg i seen it
Omg yeah that needs covering, make sure you use Ellies link in her description, I think that’s how she’s taking case requests now ❤
Oh yes, if insurance here decides they ain’t payin’ anymore, they ain’t payin’ anymore, and you’re done.
There are always instances of patients just getting dumped out in front of the hospital, still in their hospital gowns!
Our country is PATHETIC. 🙄
Totally agree.🇨🇦🇨🇦🇨🇦
that is insane
It's crazy, I don't understand how insurance companies can refuse to help a person who still needs so much help and care?! Like wtf
@@gemmatomlinson1822 My aunt was kicked out of the rehab/retirement home when she still couldn't walk on her own. She was a total care patient when she came home. And they only paid for a handful of home visits. Exactly why I'm leaving the US ASAP. $ over people's health & lives.
i listen to these american health insurance horror stories and i feel so sorry for you guys. i hope u all stay safe
I’ve honestly never had a case that has me so undecided on what to believe. I think the blame lies with so many people but I just have so many questions about so much surrounding it. Thanks so much Eleanor, this was so thorough and well researched. You always do such an amazing job, we are all very grateful 💚
this case is honestly so crazy...
I would have liked to have heard more about Tynisha and the reactions of the boyfriend? What did he think about what happened? Was he surprised? Where the hell did he go? I still have lots of questions, this case is insane!
Me too. Whose teeth were on her body that wasn't his? Why does her family think the rapper didn't do it? Why were the kids not home? Why did the label even call him back? Did the boyfriend know the victim was about to leave him because he was abusive? How did a gangster label turn in incriminating music unreleased and why? It seems so open & shut BUT I don't like loose ends.
I’ve been scrolling through these comments trying to find someone who also WANTS TO KNOW WHERE THE BOYFRIEND WENT and why he left???? Like it’s so weird how he randomly walked out and like nothing else was known of him??
I don't want to speculate too much on the victim's mother, but I suspect she just simply can't accept the horrid thought of her child being tortured and her body desecrated by someone who was essentially a stranger. It is probably easier for her to believe her daughter was killed by a literal animal set on her by a man she was involved with who treated her badly, which probably softens the horror a tiny bit.
Late reply, but after doing research on the incident, I don't think it's just bias that makes the victim's mother skeptical about Lurch's involvement. First of all, the bite marks on the body didn't match Lurch's dental records. Therefore, how could he physically consume her meat without having to bite her. Keep in mind, this guy was blasted out of his mind on PCP, so I highly doubt he somehow intricately and delicately managed to get her meat in his mouth without biting or using any tools such that there was no trace.
Speaking of tools, the supposed murder weapon that was found at the scene didn't even match. Therefore, she was murdered by a weapon that was either disposed of or simply never existed. If there was no foul play involved, the only other option is that lurch somehow successfully disposed of the weapon whilst being so high on drugs he could roam the streets bloody and naked, or she was killed by another weapon by someone else that was disposed of.
Additionally, the whole ordeal took place in a dope house that was supposedly stashed with drugs. When the police arrived, no drugs were found which means that somebody had cleared them out. Between a guy strung out on PCP who somehow miraculously disposed of the murder weapon too, and a woman that was already dead, the only logical conclusion is that foul play is involved.
Therefore, whilst lurch obviously did consume her meat, as it was found when he had his stomach pumped, it's highly implausible that he murdered her, successfully disposed of the murder weapon, cleared out evidence which could have incriminated others for no reason at all, whilst also somehow eating her without having to bite into her.
He obviously consumed her meat, and the mother knows that. She just has the common sense to know that it was physically impossible for him to have killed her the way she was killed, and that foul play had to be involved.
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The mom isn't coping or delusional. Being the mother of the victim she obviously knows what evidence was brought up against antron, and is probably the most knowledgeable about this situation besides the actual lawyers and judges.
The fact that the record label were never held accountable for giving him the pcp is ridiculous. Also, the insurance company that didn’t pay for the medical bills could’ve prevented this in the first place!
literally what i was thinking, so sad 😢
One thing i don’t understand is even IF it wasn’t him and he walked into the apartment to see this gruesome scene, HIGH ON DRUGS, wouldn’t you be shitting bricks and want to get the hell out of there … not eat a piece of meat off the floor??? and be calm. Nothing is adding up, this is truly a devastating case.RIP Tynisha, may you rest peacefully.
“All I know is it’s really shit and evil.”
The best assessment of the American Health care system that I’ve heard in a bit…
I feel so bad for her friend for seeing something so gruesome, like the amount of damage that image probably did to her is so sad.
As soon as you said PCP I was like uh oh. It really does have a tendency to cause psychosis and aggression. Scary stuff.
What! Eleanor, I can't believe you covered Big Lurch's story! You're the first I've seen to do it! My bf & I have been listening to him for the longest. It's a crazy story his life
Alyssa is the real hero! I feel for her having to find Tyneshia like that. Derrick is a b1tC$ for not at least calling the police…even if he didn’t say who he was and just did an anonymous call. She most likely could have been saved. 😢
You can’t call anonymously unless you call from a pay phone/someone else’s phone or call a third party like crimestoppers which is not an emergency service. 911 will record your phone number and they can trace it to you
Fr, all he had to do was make one anonymous call down at a pay phone by the apartments, not traceable back to him, could have also called her boyfriend to tell him and let him deal with it but he chose to let her be SA'd, sure maybe he didn't know she would die but he knew she was being SA'd at the very least. Absolutely human trash
I cannot believe that Tynishas own parents thank that Antron didn’t do anything and we’re actually on his side. And the fact that she was in an abusive relationship and was ready to leave said relationship but couldn’t because she was sadly murdered before she could makes this case all the more heartbreaking.
That's making me think hard. Hmm...the kids weren't home either. And whose teeth marks?
You're detached from this case. Do more research, this stupid video is a regurgitated perspective of a highly complex murder case spewed out by a random young girl who has no business sticking her nose in this case. It feels exploitive.
Despite how long this video is, it’s very misinformed and is missing a lot of details. All the bloody fingerprints, handprints, and foot prints at the murder scene did not belong to Lurch. That same night, Taneisha was planning on leaving her abusive boyfriend. Not to mention that his lawyer( who also was the owner of his record label) didn’t represent him correctly and just made him plead insanity. What Taneishas mother believed is that her boyfriend killed her, and Lurch being in his delusional state, saw her body as meat and began consuming her. Because he did in fact eat parts of her, they charged him with the murder.I’m not saying he didn’t or did do it, but he must definitely deserves a retrial
In the video she mentioned all that wym 😂
@@rickyaburgos well clearly you didn’t watch the video fully, cause she literally mentions all that in the end???
This case is so shocking . I’m can’t fathom the victim and what she endured in her last moments 😢
The whole thing about the tragedy being caused by a pit bull plus the mistery meat doesn’t explain why he was naked and covered in so much blood.
My ex was a cop. One night I asked him and his buddies why they didn't just shoot a person in the knee. They all told stories that were pretty horrible that the PCP puts them in a place where they might not even feel pain and they will keep coming at you and put the cop's life in danger. It's a state very similar to extreme psychosis.
Also, a knee is a MUCH smaller target than a torso. It’s a lot more likely you’ll miss if you’re aiming for the knee and hit something/ someone else completely by accident. Not saying it doesn’t happen when aiming for a torso, it’s just less likely
"You say your ex-boyfriend's a policeman, well I say you need better standards" (sorry)
No but seriously, ACAB
Also, aren't you supposed to shoot at the largest target, the torso?
@@jenniferj5324 My ex was very abusive. It actually gave me one of his guns and said if he ever comes after me, he pointed to his forehead and said that's where I do it. He's damn lucky I didn't.
I once accidentally smoked pot that I'm certain was laced with PCP when I was 16 and it was literally one of the most terrifying experiences of my life. At first I was euphoric and couldn't stop laughing but then not long after I started hallucinating (and I have absolutely no history of seeing things that aren't really there). I was sitting next to my best friend watching a movie when all of the sudden I saw demons on either side of the TV & I physically felt that I was sinking into the floor & I became convinced that the demons were trying to drag us into hell. To escape them I ran into my other friend's bathtub to hide & he came in with my best friend's brother and suddenly their heads started to turn into snakes. I cannot describe how utterly horrific it was. I was convinced I was going to die and ran out of the house into the street yelling for someone to please call my mom (this was in the days before cell phones). And it felt like it lasted forever. Another girl at the party who smoked it couldn't stop crying and then she got sick. It was God awful. I smoked pot a week later and it was normal pot but I was having flashbacks of the week prior. I didn't lose my mind again or anything but it wasn't pleasant at all. I can't even begin to imagine why or how anyone could do that on a regular basis and not completely lose it. However I agree that there must've been something in him that was violent already b/c despite how terrified I was & the things I was seeing, at no point did I want to harm anyone else. If he was trying to treat pain and deal with morphine withdrawal, he honestly would've been better off just doing heroin (I say that as a recovering heroin addict). I mean maybe *he* wouldn't have been better off in the long run but everyone around him certainly would've. I can assure you as dangerous as opioids can be, nobody ever wants to eat anyone else when they're on them. My heart absolutely breaks for that poor girl and her family. As ludicrous as it seems, I can understand why they'd want to believe a pit bull did it. The truth is just too horrific to face 😢 May she R.I.P. always 💙🙏🕊
Wow that’s so crazy that you experienced that in real life.
Your spiritual eyes were opened
Yeah, I find it very suspect that he went for PCP as a cure for pain, when heroin and prescription pain killers (legal or not) are easier to acquire and safer. PCP is not the go to pain killer drug, and it's bad reputation is very well known.
Getting addicted to any drug is like turning your life over to Satan. Cause once you're high the devil takes control. I ain't never heard of anybody going to church right after doing drugs or while they're doing it
@@SexiestManAlive4327so true
“You coward “ yesss!! So digusting you could’ve stopped it 🫤
Neatly folding your clothes is actually crazier when in a state like that
As someone that suffers from Bipolar Disorder Type II, I find it reprehensible when those caught having committed horrific crimes claim to want to use the “insanity defence”. It adds to the stigma that anyone with actual mental health issues are possibly violent.
I don’t have bipolar disorder, but 100% agreed.
Um, as someone with Bipolar disorder, you should know that folks with Bipolar Disorder can suffer from psychosis AND therefore wouldn’t be criminally responsible for their actions. The fact that you see this as an “excuse” actually stigmatizes those with this disorder who struggle with this symptom.
@@wackybrattyxeverybody’s experience is different. their point being: mental illness doesn’t always usually cause someone to be extremely and astronomically violent just because.
@@beautiful10381pretty sure everyone knows that lol
@@beautiful10381 Huh…well, OBVIOUSLY. How does that refute my point that PSYCHOSIS (where the person isn’t fully control of their actions) is experienced by people who have Bipolar Disorder, including someone who may act out of character and commit a violent act. Citing their psychosis as a DEFENCE isn’t an “excuse” as OP is suggesting. It’s very offensive to say that PSYCHOSIS and what might happen during an episode is an “excuse”.
Ive barely started watching this video, but instantly my heart broke for his son.
i really love and appreciate Ellie’s new disclaimer. i feel like it adds in more respect for the people involved and encourages respect. ❤
As soon as insurance stops paying, as long as you aren't actively dying, the hospital will discharge you
My dad used to be an Air Force cop. Once he was called to break up a party and there was a teenage girl there on angel dust. She'd chewed her own finger off and swallowed it. She had to go to the hospital to have it removed.
what happened after she became sober? was she freaking out to find her finger missing
The victims mom not thinking that he committed the crime takes us down the hole of a conspiracy theory
Have u done any real research on this case? Bc there's more than only that pointing towards his innocence.
@@gabriellewear3080he ate her! He ate her dead body.
@@gabriellewear3080her body was digesting in his stomach… you can’t convince me anyway anyhow that he didn’t do this
Tbh I think she just wanted her boyfriend to pay for the abuse that he did to her daughter kinda like 2 birds one stone
@@erinturner9618 Well, that was never able to be entirely proven. Being as fkd up as he was, it would've been very easy for someone to say "here, eat this"...
It infuriates me how horrible our health care system is. This is why we are in an opioid epidemic. It’s truly sickening. This being said, he is 1000% guilty and has no excuse for what he did.
I used to love this rapper. I would look up all the music he was featured in and listen to it just to hear his verses! His work with Mac Dre was particularly good. It’s so wild what he went on to do. I think a lot of the time people assume that rappers are just using a persona in their music, but this really pushes that to the test!
I love your content Eleanor thank you for all your incredible work!!
You know it's gonna be a good day when Eleanor posts a video
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Amen. 💖
And it’s an hour long
Yesss, I love her 😍
And get so excited and happy when I see she has uploaded a new video
The fact that this could've been avoided if his insurance didn't fail him and if Derek (sorry, not sure if that's actually his name) called the police or went back into the apartment after hearing the screams.
Really impressive amount of research went into this video!!! You really did a phenomenal job covering this ❤❤❤ thank you for giving us such a well-rounded account!!!
Wow...This is the most horrific rap downfall story i've heard. Unreal on too many levels. First time coming across your channel & this upload did NOT disappoint!
"gettin money and F*cking bitches" is the coolest thing Ive ever heard Eleanor say
I just said the same thing lmfao 😂😂😂😂😂😂
On the insurance bit, my niece was hospitalized for intense abdominal pain (so bad they were testing her for colon cancer and actually found a mass) and then once they determined the condition (thankfully not cancer) causing it, her doctor prescribed her a newer medication that works very well for her condition.
Her insurance said she had to go through months of more invasive treatment that her doctor believed wouldn’t work for her before they would cover it. Each injection is a few hundred dollars without coverage, and her pharmacy *refused to fill it* without insurance. So they basically said no, you can’t have this treatment even though you’re bleeding out of places that shouldn’t bleed.
Insurance companies, pharmacies, and even sometimes doctors themselves will tell you no, you can’t have that lifesaving medication you need. No, actually you get to suffer. No, we think you’re addicted to the meds that help you function so you can’t have them. It’s very disheartening.
Yeah. I think insurance needs to be entirely redone. It shouldn't be for-profit ever, because it's actually become an evil industry.
@@amberkat8147Yes, but a good doctor should be on the phone with insurance companies to get approval. I have to be very careful here because I get super angry at medical "professionals."or anything to do with corruption in medical yes it's bad & yes people are suffering & dieing because of judgemental policy's. Have a nice day . Hope anyone in need gets proper care. I will leave with that.
@@amberkat8147 The whole concept of insurance has always been based on a scam. The only way they get money is to take in more money from people than they will ever pay back out to them. Abolish health insurance altogether and make prices affordable for the average person. Heck, make the prices based on income so the rich pay their part and the poor still get the care they need at a price they can pay. No one should ever be in debt or not receive the care they need to live just because they aren't rich, especially when most of the things they need help for are things they couldn't control. Whether someone lives or dies shouldn't ever be based on how much money they have at that moment in time.
Yeah. I've experienced judgement from pharmacists and pharmacists who refused to fill a prescription even though it was for me, from the doctor, and not a new prescription, it was just a different pharmacist because I wasn't close to home. I don't think pharmacists should have the power to refuse filling ANY medication if it's a legit prescription and the correct time to refill it. It's infuriating how much judgement is passed on multiple levels in the medical field. I also think it's inhumane to not give pain medication, if someone's in pain, simply because of their "past prescriptions or use". This is one reason I hate how nowadays our medical records are in the network and follow us.
“Getting money, fuckin bitches” ~ Eleanor Neale 2023
It’s crazy that her family doesn’t find peace in the verdict. That’s sad for them. 🙏🏾 He guilty as hell! I can’t help but to wonder if the PCP played more of a role tho. He didn’t really have a violent track record.Regardless, I agree with his sentence. Sad all around. All I know is when you said “ is the dog in here right now?” I lost it!😂😂😂
12:40 "even people like Eminem" Eleanor is so kind to spread the word of unknown rappers like Eminem
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Me: literally getting married tomorrow morning.
Also me: Yes. Eleanor's new video about a cannibal rapper is perfect for calming my nerves.
Ed. It's very sweet of you to congratulate us. Thanks you so much to all of you. 💕
Hey!! All the best for your future! ❤
@@ranoydv Thank you! ❣️💕 For you too!
Congratulations!! Hope you have the most amazing wedding day ❤️
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How could he just leave her there??? The boyfriend. Derek. How??? How terrified she must have been! Im so glad her kids weren't there but now they are without their mom! I can't stop crying! I hate ALL THREE OF THOSE DUDES... THEY ALL HAVE BLOOD ON THEIR HANDS IMO😭😭😭😭😭🤬🤬🤬Rest In Eternity young lady 🕊️🕊️🕊️
45:57 What about the neighbors? She didn't scream? I'm so so confused 😕
53:07 if he is being truthful about not remembering any of it, that's got to be completely f'd up... that would seem like a movie or like a nightmare.... IDK but dayem! BUT BUT BUT still no sympathy because he knew wtf PCP did to him so he's absolutely responsible for all his actions.... PERIODT (IMO)
1:00:23 what would the record company have to gain by being intentionally crappy lawyers? It ain't like he could even afford a lawyer. What would they have to gain by setting him up to be a cannibal? He was not making them racks on racks on racks. Did the record company have a beef with the young lady he took out? Like come on dude, you are guilty. You literally got caught with her blood on you and her flesh INSIDE of you... what did they do? Inject her into you??? GTEFOH!!😂😂😂
This is my first time listening to you and I am very impressed with your articulation. You tell a story the way it should be told....in my opinion. Thank you
Fun fact- cannibalism isn't illegal in the USA. The reason people go to jail/prison is because it's almost impossible to commit cannibalism without committing an additional act that is illegal (like murder)
Apparently there was a case where a guy had to get his leg medically amputated and he asked to keep it. Allegedly, he and some friends then BBQed it and ate it, and it was all completely legal since he acquired the body part through a medical amputation. Don’t quote me on this, my father told me about this cause I told him the same thing as your comment, and I’m too scared to search it and see something I don’t want to 😅
@@Usernames_are_hard_to_think_ofI've heard something similar 😮
that’s a really good point… even if if the “consumer” doesn’t commit murder… they could probably be charged with abuse of a corpse
@@Usernames_are_hard_to_think_ofyeah, that guy skeletonized his leg after everyone had a lil snack and kept his bones iirc
@@Usernames_are_hard_to_think_ofdon't know if it's the same person, but I heard the same story, only it was with the guy's foot. It was definitely proven to be true cause he posted about it on reddit... with pictures. Not for the faint of heart. 🤢
The fact that Derek could've saved Tanisha. Could've done something and he did NOTHING. He should've gotten a sentence too.
You don't have an obligation to save anyone unless you put them in the danger.
@@ssjalpha6593if you PUT someone IN danger, why tf would you help them? You wouldn’t. you’re the one who is causing them harm. Derek DID NOT need to bust down doors and beat up Anton in order to save Tanisha. All he needed to do was call the police, or knock on a neighbor’s door, but no- he just pretended as if he didn’t hear or see anything. He could have saved Tanisha’s life. Tanisha knew Derek was still in the apartment, she was probably so helpless and confused as to why Derek wasnt helping her.. knowing he can hear her
Unfortunately in California no one can be held liable for not helping out someone who is in danger or in an emergency situation.
I’ve seen people do weird stuff on PCP and getting naked is definitely one of them!
HELLPP- WHY DID I ACCTUALLY CHECK SPOTIFY ONLY TO FIND HIM THERE GIRL PEOPLE ARE INSANE😨😨😰