The Victorinox Killer: Best Budget Kitchen Knife under $30: Mercer Culinary Genesis 6" Chef's Knife

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  • @sheltermonkey6065
    @sheltermonkey6065  Před 4 lety +4

    Specs from the manufacturer:
    Precision forged construction for better strength and durability
    Ergonomic Santoprene® handle offers superior comfort and a non slip grip, even with wet hands
    High carbon, no stain German cutlery steel resists rust, corrosion, and discoloration
    Shortened bolster exposes full blade edge, allowing for easier sharpening
    Bolster strengthens the knife, adds durability, and provides excellent balance for better handling when cutting food
    Tang provides excellent balance
    Taper ground edge allows for added stability, easy honing, long lasting sharpness, and increased efficiency when cutting and chopping
    Limited lifetime warranty
    Size: 6" (15.2 cm)
    Product Material: High Carbon German Steel
    Handle Material: Santoprene®
    Construction: Precision Forged
    Color: Black
    Certifications: NSF
    Blade Angle: 15°
    HRC: 56+/-1

  • @ndzapruder
    @ndzapruder Před rokem +2

    I just bought an 8" Genesis and absolutely love it. Mercer's BPX series also now has a chef knife which I love too, but it is so *uncannily* sharp out of the box that it creates drag against the board when slicing. It's an unsettling effect I've never encountered before.

  • @joepangit6938
    @joepangit6938 Před rokem +3

    Thank you for the great video! I love cheap Mercer Millenia Colors. They cost less than Victorinox Fibrox Pro. Their steel isn't quite as good as Victorinox. But that makes it so I can keep a Mercer razor sharp with just a few strokes on a $25 12" Cook's ceramic rod. The Victorinox Fibrox handle and the fat Mercer handle are both very different, but both are non-slippery and work well. For me it's down to cost, and sharpening ease. $20-$25 for a Mercer boning, santuko, or nariki that will last for ages, and I can easily keep razor sharp is a great deal. Oh, and the wife loves the colors they come in :) I had to make a deal with her. You don't put them in the dishwasher, and I will keep them sharp as razors. We are both pleased with the deal.

  • @polarbear4612
    @polarbear4612 Před rokem +1

    I have a Mercer Renaissance 8” chefs knife.
    Uses the same steel as WÜSTHOF, same 58 on Rockwell, triple riveted handle but the handle is not quite as comfortable. It sharpens and holds its edge the same since it’s the exact same steel (X50 Cr Mo V15 ) It’s very hard to justify the Wusthof at triple the price.

  • @jamesmorrison7847
    @jamesmorrison7847 Před 3 lety +2

    I was in the restaurant business for 15 years and saw Mercer knives in every professional kitchen. Workhorse beater knives that get the job done for cheap money. I like 6 inch knives too because I have overly strong hands and snap the tips off 8 inch and 10 inch knives, but the 6 inch ones don't give me enough leverage to snap the blades. In this case smaller is better.

    • @sheltermonkey6065
      @sheltermonkey6065  Před 3 lety

      Snap the tips off? Whoah! What are you doing with them? Thanks for the data point on professional kitchen usage.

    • @viveviveka2651
      @viveviveka2651 Před 2 lety

      What do you think of Dexter knives compared to Mercer?

  • @wngimageanddesign9546
    @wngimageanddesign9546 Před 3 lety +1

    6" sized chefs knife is a great size for prep work and more finesse than a larger traditional chefs knife. Due to being lighter and shorter. I have one made by Bradshaw with a shallower blade. Also have a 6.5" Kiwi Thai knife 172. That low cost knife is excellent for slicing. And a 6" Korean Santoku, and several 5.5" Santokus made by Bradshaw. The smaller Santokus can be a bit too small, but the 6" length is ideal. There are several high end Japanese prep knives of similar size, but cost prohibitive, albeit excellent quality.

    • @sheltermonkey6065
      @sheltermonkey6065  Před 3 lety

      Thanks for commenting. I love the 6" length. It is extremely versatile. For example, I can grab the blade and use the tip to remove pineapple eyes. It's surprising to me that this blade length is so rare for chef's knives, though as you mention, there are many santoku blades in this size range. One drawback: The 6" length does not do well for rocking chopping.

  • @mynameistooey
    @mynameistooey Před 3 lety +1

    thank you for taking the time to create and post this video keep up the good work

  • @gwine9087
    @gwine9087 Před 3 lety

    Just bought one and love it. Along with my Zwilling Four Star I am set.

    • @sheltermonkey6065
      @sheltermonkey6065  Před 3 lety

      Thanks! Glad you like it. I really am passionate about the 6" size. It's small enough that I can do precision work like cutting all the "eyes" out of a pineapple, but long enough to span the biggest food that I work with.

  • @michael-c.
    @michael-c. Před rokem

    Full of detail reviews. Thanks! 😃

  • @wcreview8227
    @wcreview8227 Před rokem

    Great Review.. I am a knife nut and just bought the 8" Mercer!

    • @sheltermonkey6065
      @sheltermonkey6065  Před rokem

      After a move, I've been using their Genesis 5" steak knife as my main kitchen knife for a full year.

  • @friedmule5403
    @friedmule5403 Před rokem

    I do really like your review, and you are great at explaining why you prefer one from the other. When that is said, do I hope you know that I am not condescending or anything negatively when I ask you: What can you use that knife fore, is it not to small for preparing a meal?
    (I am by the way thinking of getting a 6" myself, therefore the question)

    • @sheltermonkey6065
      @sheltermonkey6065  Před rokem

      A 6" is much better balanced and more nimble than a full-size chef's knife. Full-size chef's knives are very blade heavy. 6" is large enough for most all tasks. For example, 6" is long enough to span a pineapple. For rocking chopping, a longer 8" - 9" knife is superior.

    • @friedmule5403
      @friedmule5403 Před rokem +1

      @@sheltermonkey6065 Thank you so much for your reply! So a 6" is simply much easier and precise for the small tasks, a bit like you do not use a sledgehammer for assembling a picture frame? :-)

  • @allnighter2011
    @allnighter2011 Před 3 lety +2

    I am sorry, but did you just put your number one reason for preferring a 6" knife to an 8" knife is your kitchen size? I mean seriously, 2" will require, and I quote, "A really big kitchen with a lot of open space"?

    • @sheltermonkey6065
      @sheltermonkey6065  Před 3 lety +1

      A 6" knife is more nimble and has better balance than an 8" knife. By the way, hunters generally prefer knives in the 3" - 4" range. For rocking chopping, the longer 8" is better.

    • @joepangit6938
      @joepangit6938 Před rokem

      @@sheltermonkey6065 So true. I started deer hunting with a big old belt knife. A friend watched me struggle, and pulled out a 4" or so folding Case knife that was razor sharp and the little knife worked way better. Lesson learned.

  • @railshot9
    @railshot9 Před 4 lety +6

    You compared a 6 inch Mercer to 8 and 7.5 inch Victorinox. In both cases the first advantage you bring up is Mercer's smaller size. All the while Victorinox has it's own 6 inch chef's knife that would have been an apples to apples comparison. This is a bit like comparing a Corolla to an Suburban and liking the Corolla better because it fits in your garage - meaningless.

    • @sheltermonkey6065
      @sheltermonkey6065  Před 4 lety

      I can't find any Victorinox knife that would be comparable in profile to the 6" Mercer. The closest that Victorinox makes is probably their 7" Santoku knives. They have a Swiss Modern Chef's Knife with a 5.9" blade, but it has no usable knuckle clearance. Thanks for commenting!

    • @derg6222
      @derg6222 Před 3 lety +2

      @@sheltermonkey6065 victorinox does have a 15cm (which is close to 6 inch) blade knife in their fibrox series. has a different profile though: www.victorinox.com/de/de/Produkte/Haushalts--und-Berufsmesser/Kochmesser/Fibrox-Küchenmesser/p/5.2003.15?gclid=EAIaIQobChMIqL24-4ba7AIVKiB7Ch1FLg4pEAQYASABEgLyOPD_BwE&gclsrc=aw.ds
      understandable that you didn’t choose that one. still it would have been more adequate to compare it with the 8 inch mercer.

    • @kevowski
      @kevowski Před rokem

      Exactly what I was thinking.
      Victorinox do a 6 inch Fibrox chefs knife and it is priced against the Millenia range not the Genesis which is approximately 50% more expensive.

  • @jacksailor1411
    @jacksailor1411 Před 4 lety +1

    Great comparison! I have both))

  • @spigotface
    @spigotface Před 4 lety +1

    Fyi, the balance point on the 8" Mercer Genesis chef's knife is right at the location you said you wish it was at on the 6" knife.

    • @sheltermonkey6065
      @sheltermonkey6065  Před 4 lety

      Thanks for the info on the eight incher. The balance point of the 6" short bolster is about 1/4" rearwards of the edge of the rubber... which I still think isn't ideal, but honestly I haven't thought about it since I made that video, and I do use the knife a lot.

    • @smspain09
      @smspain09 Před 4 lety

      I also have the 8" Mercer Genesis and I am very, very fond of it. I just tested the balance and found your take to be correct. It's a really good knife for the price.

    • @sheltermonkey6065
      @sheltermonkey6065  Před 4 lety

      @@smspain09 So the 8" is balanced where you index finger lands? Thanks for watching!

    • @smspain09
      @smspain09 Před 4 lety

      @@sheltermonkey6065 Yes, it's dead on for where I hold it in a pinch grip.
      I do have the standard bolster version, though, which I like for grip - I could see that changing the balance somewhat, though.

    • @sheltermonkey6065
      @sheltermonkey6065  Před 4 lety +1

      @@smspain09 I never understood why the standard bolster versions exist. Perhaps you have solved the mystery! Thanks.

  • @geof98
    @geof98 Před 2 lety

    I think ill buy a short 6" mercer knife number, Ill see how it controls versus a 9"victorinox

  • @trq3000
    @trq3000 Před 5 měsíci

    Any recommendations for a budget knife with better edge retention?

  • @me446
    @me446 Před 3 lety

    smaller kitchen=smaller knives, really makes alot of sense

  • @foedspaghetti3290
    @foedspaghetti3290 Před 3 lety

    Good looking knife, but I do like the bolster

  • @MrSlicer2424
    @MrSlicer2424 Před 4 lety

    Great review. Im ordering the 6in today! Have you seen Mercer's stamped series of knives like Victorinox? At only $14.99 i think a comparison is in order. Hint hint lol.

    • @sheltermonkey6065
      @sheltermonkey6065  Před 4 lety +2

      Hi. I have not looked at that series. Perhaps I should for review purposes. I have lots of expensive kitchen knives, but the short-bolster version of the Genesis is so good, that it's become my main "go to" knife. Thanks for commenting!

  • @jamesjacocks6221
    @jamesjacocks6221 Před 4 lety +1

    "So why do I prefer the Mercer..." you would have to like paper plates over china to like the Victoriox. My wife is going to like the 6" Mercer--she presently uses a 15 year old Kitchen Aid santoku that is never sharp. (Tomatoes scream and hide). To me, steel composition is a two-edged question: ease of sharpening v. blade retention. At the start everyone wants the hardest steel but when the knife needs sharpening those soft German steels look pretty good. The soft steels hold edges better if carefully sharpened and honed and used with good technique. I have a ZDP-189 slicer that mocks my sharpening stones.

    • @sheltermonkey6065
      @sheltermonkey6065  Před 4 lety

      The steels of the Mercer and Victorinox mentioned are very similar, but I like the feel of the Mercer much better. Mercer does offer some models with VG10 and other steels. I think all Mercer knives may be made in Taiwan now. I hope she likes the 6" Chef's knife as much as I do. I really do believe it is an ideal size and shape. Thanks for watching!

  • @whocares6901
    @whocares6901 Před 4 lety

    I'm curious what your preferred chef knife is after watching your video. Thanks.

    • @sheltermonkey6065
      @sheltermonkey6065  Před 4 lety

      Hi... I'm not sure I understand your question. In this budget price range, I prefer this Mercer Genesis 6" short bolster. At higher price points, I don't have a strong opinion. It really comes down to personal preference and what you enjoy using. I have quite a few kitchen knives in VG10 and maybe one or two in SG2. I don't have any in S35VN or exotic steels. I really like this 6" length, but YMMV.

  • @Lobo47478
    @Lobo47478 Před 2 lety

    Needed to know if these Mercer knives stain? I recently bought one and it’s showing some slight stains.I wash and dry all my blades regardless stainless or carbon.are there some tips on removing that you can give? Liked and subbed

    • @sheltermonkey6065
      @sheltermonkey6065  Před 2 lety +2

      Do you mean corrosion? I haven't seen any of mine. Whether your stainless steel knives will corrode depends on whether you live in a humid environment, whether you use AC at your house, how close the knives are stored to the sink, and how you store them (in a drawer is much better). To remove minor corrosion, get some Mother's Metal Polish from the automotive section and buff with a small piece of cotton rage. I have a video on stainless steel and corrosion.

    • @Lobo47478
      @Lobo47478 Před 2 lety

      @@sheltermonkey6065 thank you for responding back and thank you for the info,I will definitely watch that vid and take your advice and give it a go! Thank you

  • @ivanrodriguez346
    @ivanrodriguez346 Před 4 lety

    Any more suggestions? Higher up on the price point by a little? Thanks

    • @sheltermonkey6065
      @sheltermonkey6065  Před 4 lety

      The next step up is probably a knife with VG10 steel which will have better edge retention. There is a Chinese brand called Sunlong that uses VG10. I've been using a nakiri style one from them for 2 or 3 years. It's excellent... as good as a Shun. You can buy them on dhgate for $50 (shipping from China) which is what I did, or $80 on Amazon. Someone in the comments below was asking about Tojiro DP, available at chefsknivestogo. I have no experience with Tojiro DP, but it should be fine. In my opinion, ergonomics / form factor are just as important as edge retention, so it depends what you are looking for.

  • @pattiturk6407
    @pattiturk6407 Před 3 lety +1

    Where can someone order the mercer 6 in chef knife?

    • @sheltermonkey6065
      @sheltermonkey6065  Před 3 lety

      Hi! Search for "Mercer Culinary Genesis Short Bolster Forged Chef's Knife 6 Inch" on Amazon

  • @scottlouis6116
    @scottlouis6116 Před 4 lety

    What do you think of Tojiro DP?

    • @sheltermonkey6065
      @sheltermonkey6065  Před 4 lety +1

      I don't have any experience with them, but they look like a good value. I see chefknivestogo stocks a lot of them. I like VG10. It is a step up from the steel in this Mercer, but of course it's considerably more expensive. Thanks for watching!

  • @MrBraffZachlin
    @MrBraffZachlin Před 4 lety

    you compared the Victorinox to the Genesis but i think it is more similar to the Millennia.
    here is the link for the other Mercer... you can see this would be the proper comparison to the Victorinox knife you showed
    www.amazon.com/Mercer-Culinary-M22608-Millennia-8-Inch/dp/B000PS2XI4/ref=sr_1_2?dchild=1&keywords=mercer+millenia&qid=1595948567&s=home-garden&sr=1-2

    • @sheltermonkey6065
      @sheltermonkey6065  Před 4 lety +1

      From a construction perspective, I agree with you that the Mercer Millenia line is much more similar to the Victorinox Fibrox Pro. But from a price perspective, the Genesis is more similar. I have not tried a Millennia, but either way it seems you get more for your money with Mercer. Thanks for commenting!

    • @MrBraffZachlin
      @MrBraffZachlin Před 4 lety

      @@sheltermonkey6065 i agree with what you are saying. i think if they used the genesis high carbon blade on the milennia it would be an apples for apples. as it stands they are doing the style in a cheaper knife or changing the style for a more expensive one. i think for sure the genesis is the better knife.

  • @scottholmes8374
    @scottholmes8374 Před 3 měsíci

    wish you would show yrself using the knife instead of just talking about it then we could see you know what yr talking about

  • @bushrasew
    @bushrasew Před 3 lety

    I don’t like the Handel

    • @sheltermonkey6065
      @sheltermonkey6065  Před 3 lety

      Which one and why? I use the Mercer every day, and it's an excellent handle.

    • @jinw8974
      @jinw8974 Před 3 lety

      The handle is not a good one. G10 or micarta are better for handle.

    • @sheltermonkey6065
      @sheltermonkey6065  Před 3 lety

      @@jinw8974 Each has their benefits. Rubber has more grip and has lower thermal conductivity and though not relevant for kitchen use, is more shock absorbing. I prefer rubber.