The Best & Worst Agents to CLIMB RANKED for Episode 8
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I am solidifying some changes here. Skye adjustment S Tier -> A Tier. Still very good in the mid-ranks imo
I run omen on breeze bc he has good one ways and still win w him in diamond as solo smokes, harbor is not good anywhere.
@@elijahsiegal5739 I agree. Harbor is not that good in regular comp. Harbor is better with a coordinated team and even better in pro play because people in regular comps tend to just run through the smokes without an issue unlike pro teams who respect it and use util to clear it instead.
Skyes definitely c/d tier now almost dead in my opinion
I feel like if Skye is a tier then gekko should be too I think Skye and gekko are very similar and now with the changes gekko is better
@@ghostcod26 skye has far more guaranteed value than gekko. Id rather have 2 skye flashes than 3 gekko dizzies, a skye dog rather than two wingmen, and a better cypher ult than a fish which can be shot.
Bro I'm singlehandedly bringing down the neon win rate
same😂
Im keeping it high 😔
Relatable bro, 40% win rate with Neon. However I do have good K/D with her.
New player that just started playing. Would you recommend Neon for a new player? Her movement looks super fun and I play a LOT of Zeri in League (Zeri and Neon are very similar in both model, design, and playstyle), so I figured I should try out Neon.
@@lethalfurret9082 I think if you know how to move fast, neon is a great pick! I wish you luck in your games
thumbnail: deadlock S tier
video: D tier
thats what clickbaits are
play with their mind
As a deadlock main I was furious
I come here to say this too, there plenty of way to do clickbait without lying but he choose the worst way to do it.
frfr
You know its bad when all your mains are D tier 😭
buff harbor!!
Why is it bad, if ur winning with em that means ur better than the rest
eh. it’s based on averages. sage is most people’s first pick when they begin playing, so she’s gonna have low kda average. if you like em, u like em
All mine are in b and a
Frrrr
Honestly I think maining one agent and continuing to play that agent in every single game will make someone more comfortable and probably more consistent while ranking up, so it doesn't really matter what you choose.
It doesn't really matter Mr dittoz mentioned every time the word 'statistic' which means it's kind of just an average and trust me it gets affect cause everyone switches and plays a diff agent which affects these data...so just pick an agent depending upon the map and the condition...I'm an omen main but sometime I play cypher like in breeze omen isn't useful but cypher is very good there
You are right. I'm a breach main but at times when I'm agent hoping I'm kinda bad on those agents
Just pick what you like and play them enough times to be really comfortable with them you know
maining one agent isn't really good, what if someone steals that agent and you don't know how to play anyone else?
@@GhostIsBadinstalock
@@wodkdnwiwondsn and if someone is faster?
As a hardcore cypher main(and slight one trick) I would say he JUST BARLEY edges out KJ for the simple fact that unlike her and Chamber Cypher can rotate to the other site and all his gear will remain active
While it does lose its power without at least one person on site it can still give info on postions and getting into enemy heads
Other then that great list man, will for sure look into Yoru this act
i used to be a killjoy main i i will say now that i main cypher i get soooo much more value and fun.the only edge (but a big one) is the postplant that kj has. other than that though, (and chip damage), having you and Ur teammates able to collect free kills through smokes and stopping lurks is very strong.
Im a hardcore cypher main since SECOND WEEK BETA (I no joke have over 1k hours on competetive play on cypher specifically) I will stand for cypher supremacy on ascent over kj but on maps like icebox I unfortunately swallow my pride since immortal people don't fall for cypher gimmicks usually and no unbreakable traps or one ways there hinders him😞
Tier list:
S: Viper, Skye, Raze, Omen
A: Cypher, Jett, Killjoy, Sova
B: Chamber, Brimstone, Kay/o, Yoru
C: Harbor, Fade, Reyna, Gekko, Neon, Astra
D: Sage, Breach, Phoenix, Deadlock, Iso
(Like so this can help people and if this gets enough likes I’ll add timestamps for ease.)
disliked so people CAN'T see
@@remuz3561 imma touch you
If you saw a recent video where every player on a pro team was asked about how they would tier the agents, you would see that some of the common Valorant channels that make tier lists off of pro level pick rates are not in agreement of the pros themselves. Pick rates in ranked may reflect the strength of the individual agent, but in the pro scene pick rate is not a good indicator of an agent's individual strength. For example, a lot of the flash duelist are strong in a vacuum, and have more fragging capability than the high mobility duelists, but in pro play they barely get picked; not because they are worst than Raze or Jett, but because they aren't necessary, due to teams opting to go double initiator to get the same amount of flashes, but you have way more utility and stronger retake potential due to site wide ultimates that initiators typically have. Neon was rated on most of their tier lists at B or A tier, but they admitted that despite her being a strong agent, Raze and Jett would always get picked before her due to Neon lacking the mobility to get to vertical places. On other common Valorant channels, they would have thrown her in C tier just off of pick rate, but she's not a mediocre agent, she just has tough competition. Pick rate is influenced by so many things, some of which has nothing to do with the power of an agent.
He isn't talking about pro play though, he said quite a few times.
@@11ui55 I wasn't referring to him, I was just speaking about a lot of tier lists in general. When I mentioned the part about a pro team, whoc each player gave an individual tier list; there tier lists resembled our reality (non top ranked players) more than immortal to pro player so called tier lists that you typically see. Like some of them had Reyna higher than D tier, and some of them had Phoenix in B tier. One guy even put Brimstone in A tier, and two had Gekko in A tier. I kid you not, I never thought pro players would vary so much in their interpretations. One player even put Killjoy in B tier. More than half their tier lists had Yoru ranging from B tier to S tier. They mad their tier lists based off of personal experience, not statistics, which statistics without proper context is very deceiving. This guy's tier list isn't like the ones you necessarily see on Skill capped or TMV, which base most of their tier lists on pro play, but because he uses a lot of those stats, his tier list is actually closer to TKV and skill capped than it is what some of the pro players think, and TMV and skill capped think their tier lists accurately reflect pro play, but apparently pro players think very different. So yeah, I wasn't trying to say this video is guilty of the same things, but just to tell yall that tier lists can be very subjective, and not to let community tier lists form too much of your idea on who is strong and not. I'll see if I can link the video of the pro team's tier list below.
@@11ui55 czcams.com/video/Ohm81GnKkiM/video.html&ab_channel=NAVIVALORANT
If the address doesn't take you there, look up Patch 8.0 tier list (NAVI Valorant guide) on CZcams. It will surprise you.
i aint reading allat
@@kylew8492 I tried, but it was just way to much.
i heavily disagree with the placement of Breach, Fade and Gekko. As an initiator main who's peaked immortal, i actually think its the low ranks that drag them down, people in low ranks don't know how to use their kit efficiently enough for them to find value. In higher ranks people can communicate their utility a lot better to form better sight takes and retakes, making them great assets. Not to mention the clutch potential of especially Gekko and Breach's ults, in high ranks they can be the deciding factor for winning rounds. I usually play duo/trio and if one of your friends is on duelist, the executes you can make by combining utility is lethal. They deserve to be a lot higher on the list from my experience, personally i would put Breach in mid A-tier, Gekko in low A-tier/high B tier and Fade in mid B-tier. On a side note, i don't play sova but he's still S tier.
As a low rank Breach player (silver), Breach is literally op in these ranks, considering how low rank players dont know what his kit does, similar to what u said.. but that is also the main issue.. 6 times out of 10 when I pop my ult my team does not swing, or when i simply use my stun my duelist does not take advantage of it bc they are absolutely clueless. Its rlly a give or take situation in low elo but I usually see breach picks at the top of the leaderboard regardless. He's a hidden gem
thank you for putting daddy chamber above C tier, he is pretty underrated #buffchamber
don’t say that, they’re gonna nerf him again!
As a breach main who got to asc with only breach, this list gives me big sad
Fr ! Breach is basically a duel below dia coz people can't dodge his flash
The amount of stuff wrong in this Video is hurting me, dw breach is fine
Much love: immortal player
Brother breach is one of the strongest agents in game, the video creator just has brain damage 😭
Tier lists don’t really matter. Imo there's only 3 tiers: Great, Good and Bad. Most Agents are Good, and high Skill Ceiling agents are generally great(except Yoru).
So at the end of the day play whoever tf you want!
@@lead5916agreed 😅
one thing to mention, is playing some agents (such as sova, yuro and cypher) you only get more skilled with theses agents and the impact only gets better. i played sova since silver and now reached immo 3. and i know i only get better with him over time. learning lineups and which util is best for each situation makes a massive difference ones aim becomes less important.
I've been saying Neon needs a buff for a while now, her sprint drains so fucking quickly and ohmygod, removing damage from her wall/fast lane is insane. Make it only damage enemies, not your team imo
As a smoker main duo/solo playing Omen as my main, Brim and Viper on maps where Omen doesn't shine as much, i'm satisfied with this tierlist hihi
22:22 gekko flash also gives you a lot of info, I'd say even more info than skye sometimes since it tells you the exact location of the enemies if played correctly
And if you know how to count it tells you how many people too
@@snwmn4783 Imo Gekko Is one of the best initiators for info if used correctly,the only others better than him for info are probably sova and fade, I'd say that Skye gives the same amount of info as Gekko it's just that no one currently knows how to use gekko in pro level,only a few people actually play him well
As a solo Astra main with her being my highest winning character, I really think she just takes someone who knows her kit to make her powerful as a controller
The absolute best part about being an Omen main is the ability to accurately mark where the enemy Omen ulted to almost every single time. It's gotten to the point that when they use their ult I just mark a point and we flash into a triple swing with some teammates and ruin the poor mans day.
i main raze (about 200 hours of play not including customs) and secondary cypher who i agree is VERY good if you know a good amount of setups. His downfall is if the other team goes to a different site or trying to clutch from the other side of the map. the util is just not there for solid retakes all the team. still a very good agent tho
KJ has the same the problem. That's a sentinel issue in general or any site anchor really. Youre last to rotate. A 2v1 is regularly doable since it's easy to isolate fights but a 3v1 is usually bad or even a 3v2 if you aren't with your teammate and they die while you're still rotating.
as a day 1 omen main, i agree he is S tier bro. So good
i used to be a killjoy main i i will say now that i main cypher i get soooo much more value and fun.the only edge (but a big one) is the postplant that kj has. other than that though, (and chip damage), having you and Ur teammates able to collect free kills through smokes and stopping lurks is very strong.
cypher is borderline broken, i dont think its fair that he has the ability to have unbreakable trips that only 2 agents in the roster have the ability to break is balanced or fair
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phoenix being so low is absurd, he is known to be one of teh best solo q agent as he can do so many things for himself, main reason he has a low winrate is because lots of noobs play him, being below harbour and astra is insane
I do agree that phoenix should be much higher but I feel you underestimate Astra. Firstly you can just place a stun or suck wherever and get free assists when you see your teammates killing people on the map. Second I find that she makes you play a lot more passive and less aggressive which forces you to stop taking fights you don’t need to be taking. I’ve found I entry a lot less as Astra whenever I play her than other agents that aren’t duelists
the thing with astra is that she really needs team play to be effective, which in low ranks just isnt gonna happen.@@_Iceey
the phoenix in D is insane but he is considered on of the best ranked agents as he do most of the stuff need by him self. breach is the opposite need some on to play off hes util
Phoenix is only good if the enemy team is bad. That’s sounds really stupid but phoenix just doesn’t work against good players unlike other duelists
@@toxicvold3164 well phoenix sucks if we are talking about a pro comp, but we arent talking pro comps, phoenix sucks if he is the only duellist but works fine as a 2nd duellist and in a completely balanced game he isnt worth it. but if your team dosnt make the right decisions every time phoenix have the ability to play for him self, unlike other duelist.
@@toxicvold3164he has good flashes for close range, a wall, an alright ult and a molly
Phoenix isn't bad. He's actually who I usually go for if I get stuck as a duelist (which is rare because I'm usually instalocking omen or Cypher/kj). I think his wall is a good substitute for viper on breeze and also let's your viper on icebox keep a permawall on B if you want to hit A.
I rarely play duelists though he's rhe onky one I'm comfortable with
If your playing with a duo and both love controllers, having harbor and another controller probably Viper or Omen is crazy because you get one of the best rushing controllers and los denial for retakes and attacker side but then you also get stalling power on defense, and for the second controller you just get a crazy defender, and post planter. (Unless its omen thats a different story with his paranoia and tp.)
In ascendant playing against a neon only gets worrying when they have good movement and pop their ult. Outside of the ult they are not hard to play against
miniboo would disagree hard
as an immo player, pop flash agents the best in low elo
As an iso main, I am flabbergasted, bewildered, and utterly perplex and bamboozled. I am distraught and decieved. I would say iso is pretty good, but i might just be stupid
ISO is good but why play iso when u could play raze or jett
@@DrPigs Not my cup of tea,
@@user-kz1ir4dl6mreyna does his job much better, having a ult that you can die in does not make sense, just literally no value because of the single fact that reyna exists
harbor is really good at blocking my wallhax arrows.... when he is on my team.
deadlocks actually really good, when it comes to holding down a site, unlike other sentinels she cant hold flanks or anything. It just depends on if the player is good and intelligent enough to compensate for the very niche kit.
that neon movement tho
Just remember there’s no such thing as a bad agent. There are just bad players who cannot use more complicated agents to their full potential. I’d say this is more of tier list about which agents are easiest to have a greater impact on.
Breach is actually so good. Even though team play isn’t that big in lower ranks. If you have any sense of awareness of your team you can still help them. Besides that he has so many aftershock (and flash) spots/combos on which you can capitalize yourself. Let’s also not forget his ability to retake sites.
I think every agent is good if you know how to play it well and if you can create pressure with him
As someone who is reyna main with 1000hrs + and has aim and brain and went from silver to diamond in 2 episodes I say reyna is good if you know how to play her correctly with team and she makes good use and a good agent up until asc or immo
bro im sorry you do not have a brain if your in diamond LMFAO, your opinion is like asking a jv basketball player compared to lebron
as someone who’s played in immortal, its not very different. you want to take fights and keep fighting on reyna. you’ll get more útil in those ranks to help or hinder you though
Hard stuck iron and get to sil 2 by just switching Only Omen to Only Reyna and Practicing Gun fight mechanic.
I would say that IF My gunfight mechanic is better than the enemy. I can solo carry the game. This is only one condition to win in very low rank lobby 😂 and Reyna really fit this.
Bruh....i just find lurking reyna in my plat lobbies. She just steals the kills from behind. As a cypher main.......my kit is highly designed for lurks and info...........these dumfk reynas just pops up in every lobby to lurk all the time. Mostly becuz if she is unable to take entry and make space, she goes to the other site for rotating kills ......... but cyphers cannot take entry. Its hard for them,, they lack movement and flashes
as a cypher main, he is so fun. People thinking where are your trips HAHAHAHA and just watching your cctv while eating 🤣
I agree with the list but i feel like neon is like Yoru. Where she might not be the best when you are new to her but if you figure out how to play her and run she is op and can dominate. ( as a sage main )
6:11 shame to see my main this low, but Skye exists so fair enough
I’ve been keeping a steady climb with neon only, last act I started in Silver and ended in Platinum 2, now I’m dia 2 with 55% wr. If you don’t have teammates that entry with you you’re cooked
gekkos blind also gives info tho (when u started talking abt skyes kit)? either they shoot it or theyll get blinded which u can see by the tracers of the way the goo goes which also will tell u how many ppl are there + his buff where it blinds ppl faster . gekko is a good team player (saying this as a skye kj viper main, no bias) . otherwise, i agree w ur opinion and id say to use him as a second initiator
i disagree with the breach placement because his kit is very much useful, even tho as a initiator it doesnt helps much his blast to clear out angle or cheeky spots, his concussion, his flash and his ult is very much useful, so i would like to atleast put him up to the C tier....
the reason all of these tier lists are based on pro play, is because they know what they are talking about. With a few exceptions, the quickest way to rank up is by playing the agents pro players play. Often pro teams are picking agents because they are strong, not because they have 12 set plays for every round in a half. Every sage, reyna, and yoru in my games usually has better aim than me, only because their rank is being deflated because of the agent they play can't consistently provide util.
Pro play and ranked is not at all the same. Pros pick based on what works well together. Your commebt is stupid af
Chamber Main and sometimes neon T_T
depends, if instalocked duelists are present it will be chamber but if there arent instalocked duelits it will be neon
skye nerf aged this tier list like milk
Switching from brim to omen was best decision ever
Why
Why
Ayyyy… bro called my rank “down there” 😂😂
Thank you for putting sage on the bottom worst thing is the e couples and then the lack of not having any utility on flank is just annoying af
I would personaly put Sova in S tier, the amount of info he can get is rly good and if you are having a bad aim day you can always try doing smth with the shocks or ulti
He isnt S bc he doesn't flash
The only thing i would do is rank them in the ranks like skye is worst than omen so she is high A tier/ low S tier. Otherwise with the nerfs to skye i would change her with sova, but the tierlist is perfect for solo queue (i'm plat)
thank god finally an accurate guide. I'm so tired of hearing great solo-queue agents get put in low ranks because they can't find a place in the pro meta. Also yeah astra is amazing in pro play because of the coordination potential but I appreciate your rankings.
I think breach is not that much of a bad agent tho.. breach's all util is so good even I saw a good breach main can carry a game like a dualist in the silver/gold
against yoru chamber and jett my heart be like😱😱🫀🫀
Very happy as an omen/ sova main and a little
Kj
A gekko with dizzy lineups is scary
Sad to C Gekko in the C tier (appreciate the pun pls, I only just came up with it)
I was having a headache while watching this 😂
17:54 that guy has upgraded prime karambit
dingus
I remember the first time I played valorant I played phoenix but the next game I played I picked sage and I new she’s going be my main for no matter if she is good bad or at the bottom when she got the change to her wall where it had to harden I was mad when she got the change to her walls price I was mad but no matter what I’m still playing her and I will always
I think breach is the initiator the most self sustainable so i would put him closer to b- than d in a solo climb
i think harbor one is bit of a bs i think in some maps other then even breeze he provides a ton of value aside from viper damaging with her wall you manipulate harbor's wall according to the situation only maps i think he can be used are heaven and split and i personally love viper on split but her on heaven is also useless harbor has all the utilities to dely as much as possible and with the 2 moving walls i think he can get you ton of space to your liking and his ult is very useful on retakes too
this is uniqe hope you keep it up hope you reach 100 thousand and 1 million
I'm a phoenix main. I personally love this agent.
Tier List: If played at full potential
S: Viper, Brimstone, Cypher, Omen, Clove
A: Killjoy, Skye, Raze, Jett, Reyna
B: Yoru, Breach, Gekko, Chamber, Iso, Neon
C: Fade, Astra, DeadLock, Kayo
D: Sage, Phoenix, Harbour, Sova
When i get valorant (when i get a pc) i was thinking of maining yuro, and iso (they looked cool)
Doesn't matter anyway, there is always that one guy, that woops regardless.
The best agent is still the Smurf Agent
24:20 that was really funny
astra needs to be a low a tier there good all ranks even if your not 5 stacking as an astra solo queue main whos immortal its so much fun and hard to master but amazing when you do!
I main deadlock on icebox cause she's quiet decent on it but trash on every other map, and I main gekko on breeze mainly because his wingman and flash are really great.
as a bronze neon main with 100 hours on neon alone i 100% agree with you unless you have good movement and genuinely put hours and hours into it she is awful im still in bronze and i think if i had 100 hours in a different agent (like omen) I might be in silver
I agree with most of this tierlist, i would appreciate it if you could put the % on the screen cuz its very hard to understand that part from your voice
this will save me hopefully
Reyna is the best solo queue agent in the game so if u want to rank up fast use her
Ye idk why he put her so low, having good aim on Reyna can get you at least to ascendant without having to think too much. Shes def an A tier and even S tier if you have insane aim. But I understand why he said it
@@historic6752 fr i used her from bronze to ascendant and it was soo easy cuz I have always had good aim so imo she is AT LEAST high A if not S
I am singlehandedly bringing down kayos win rate 💀
I have like a 20% win rate on kayo this act lol, I do NOT know what I'm doing
Nah, every one on my team in my bronze lobby is. I've never won with him and I think I only lost 1 or 2 against him. Usually he just flashes his team lmao
gekko is insanely strong with the refreshing flash
okay than explain why i allways loose when i play cypher with full setup and mostly win with iso? (i was diamond and now i placed gold so ig that's just the aim diff) idk you8 tell me
I absolutely respect that raze is S tier I mean I main her and think she's really op for how u can throw ur granade but neon is really good as well my friend mains her and doesn't really know how to move correctly and gets some nice kills
Bro had smoked everything
11:56, that was so smooth
Less go my boyy
Phoenix should be definitely above astra, harbor and definetly neon
Honestly, I think Viper is absolutely not suitable for solo rank up. Her abilities are revealed only with calls from the team, her lineups only work if the team has played for a long enough time, and it is impossible to contain the entire enemy team in the ultimate. For this reason, Viper is NOT suitable for solo rank at all.
For the same reason, I would lower Killjoy to a C or even D tier. Her abilities are very good for protecting the site, but post planting or attack or retake is very dependent on the team. The same Cypher, on the contrary, can act alone in all these situations.
These agents are really very strong, but they open themselves only with a good team, which is unacceptable for a solo rank up, where randomness decides your good teammates or irons with the rank of diamonds.
me having 80 percent win rate with kayo and 1.50 kd while solo queue kayo only
I feel proud as a peak plat 1 yoru main
breeze need a rework so we need to nerf chamber
he put gekko in c and put skye in s/a for the reasons the two of them are so similar. Dude did you forget that their are voicelines that for when wingman and dizzy see someone? If you pay attention you can actually get more info then skye
with kayo, if youre solo qing dont learn flash lineups, they have no value since you as soon as you q into a team who doesnt listen to you all your practice is wasted, instead learn how to flash YOURSELF in, that way you can clutch more easily and can play duelist for your team when the actual duelist decides to fuck off to lurk.
Playing Astra with my friends in a five-stack is just too fun I barely play solo q anymore lmao. Imo she's viable in solo q but only if you're an insane one-trick astra or something. If both you and your duo are reasonably skilled, she's also viable but yeah the less teammates you have in your party the more she loses her value sadly since its pretty rare to get good comms in solo q ranked or just maybe because you are not used to your teammates playstyle and cant aid them with your util.
ive been scrolling through all the comments for someone to stand up for astra as an agent 😭, i don’t main her but i play her regardless how many people i’m queued with. i think i have a decent 90% post plant 1v1 win rate with astra
I've been saying this since episode 4 but let phoenix OVERHEAL from his molly and wall (make the temporary shield last a little less than reyna)
Fk no he already gets 2 life's every 3 rounds
@@CubeInspectorwell he is still one of the worst characters in the game lmao
I usually main Cypher now, but my backups are Omen and Jett. I just didn't liked that Gekko's placement. Although List is completely fine.
i think phoenix's play style being selfish is so lore accurate LOL
Phoenix should be a solid B tier cause he always has value (i peaked immo 2)
Omen has been my boy for 4 years, he ain’t never gonna stop ‼️‼️
Gecko should be higher cause he does help the team a lot
Yeah all of his abilities help, except a few I’d the gekkos I play with molly is off and then detain us with his ult haha
Bro violating us in the first 0:29 seconds "IRON PLAY"
As a Harbor main, he should be D tier. Even with breeze and icebox he's really not great compared to other controllers
yoru is betteer than jett now , he can do it all reposition , flash , clone , presence , the best ullt arguably
Neon is B the people who know how to truly use her are insane even in radiant and adcendent
I meeean.... if we speaking from iron to diamond, Gekko is the best initiator there is, broken flash (for low-mid elo, high elo just counter it), Wingman, and big zoning molly, good ult for info/stun, and ALL this abilities can be reused. Jett below Immo is B tier max, most players can't play her properly, and her OP value (below Imo) is lower than Chamber. Iso below Immo is in just for his double tap is A-B tier, it's such a good ability for not being traded and against OP players, BUT his whole kit is so MEH, wall is meh, his Fragile skill is also meh, his ult is terrible if you're not under double tap shield... He is meh agent, but double tap shield makes him an absolute unit for mid elo. Skye is only S tier in high elo, in low-mid elo Gekko strongly overshadows her especially now, I am Skye main btw, but I am Asc - Immo (Immo when I don't play 20 hrs per act xdd) player.
Thumbnail completely baited us.
"other agents like skye" bro that's the only other healer lmao
i went from plat to immortal in one episode with sage ONLY
Anyone knows the name of this knife 13:10 never saw that until recently