Two Pullmans and the Bells at Carlisle and Lockerbie 27 07 24
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- Yet another day that didn't go according to plan - when do they ever?
Two Pullmans due in Carlisle today, including the beautiful Blue Pullman - yes, I know it's not the original - and our ever-faithful 34067 Tangmere.
The weather forecasters got it wrong, Tangmere was let down by her diesel support loco, Northern Rail cancelled trains which left me unwilling to risk my original plan for the day - - - and at the end it turned out to be a great day!
I enjoyed it - hope you do too!
Thanks for the video. I have distant memories of frequently passing the oil refinery at Grangemouth on Sundays during the 1950"s. My father was organist at the parish church and would travel from our home in Edinburgh, often with some of the family. As a small boy I was fascinated by the flame burning off gas.
I have similar memories of travelling by train from my home in Darlington to the seaside at Redcar. Back in the 1950s the train ran right through the middle of the vast steelworks along the Tees estuary and you could actually see the molten steel pouring out from the blast furnaces - fascinating - but, of course, all long since gone.
Lovely voice, Tim is the David Attenborough of the railways. Amusing to see a steam charter delayed by its diesel backup.
@@AndrewHatton85 Thank you - high praise indeed - if only it were reflected in the income!
Thanks Tim, more good footage again, much appreciated.
ps living in Derbyshire, I well remember the original Midland Pullman trains including thie mid-day trips to Nottingham
Thank you. Sadly, I never ever saw the original Midland Pullman - one of my major regrets.
Excellent presentation.
Thank you - glad you enjoyed it.
Very good video and I did wonder 💭 why the train Pullman train was an HST but having heard that the original blue Pullman trains are not longer useable that it explains why Tim but a very interesting video
Thank you Fraser. Glad you enjoyed it and found it informative.
You’re welcome at least it wasn’t raining when you were at the station
As usual Tim, a really informative vlog. Lots of action and information, especially re the ‘aviation fuel’ train … Nice to see some sunshine too … 👍🏻😊
Thank you. Sunshine - yes - we haven't been over blessed with it this summer! Best wishes.
Excellent day's filming Tim and a long one at that, must be keen. 👍👍
Keen - or insane - opinions vary!
The irony. A problem with the diesel!
In my trainspotting days (1960s) and much later, I made a number of visits to major railway centres, but cannot recall such weed-strewn approaches. (Q. Wonder what happened to BR's Weed-killing trains that used to be run regularly???) NICE bit of 'film' of 34067, however!
I must admit that I haven't seen the weed-killing train this season - but, sadly, it's not allowed to spray within station confines - elf and safety, don't you know! The tracks away from the station seem to be in good fettle, so I can only presume that the spraying train (invariably the dirtiest train on the railway) is still in use - perhaps by night?
another great video Tim a long day and plenty of coffee to keep you going
Thank you - but only one coffee, would you believe?
30:45 ah you're in there boy - either that or you're not safe anywhere these days ;).
Great vid - and thanks for the commentary.
No Chirky chipboard train today. I'm getting the hang of it slowly . .
The price of fame, eh?
No, the logs didn't run although they were scheduled to.
Cheers - might get back to you (constructively) on this one... Elfan' Safety??? Well, I used to be a very poorly-supported 'Safety Systems Manager' (new-fangled description) on BR around "privatisation" and am pleased to recall that the gentlemen from The Railway Inspectorate and initially on the attack, duly considered what I HAD managed to achieve despite extended full-on bullying by my so-called 'manager', declared, "Well, I'll go away and leave you alone then." (RESULT!!!) I did leave "railway service" after total demoralisation - which did take "them" five years to achieve.
You really had a long day for this one and lots going on. The aviation fuel train is long, I wonder how often it runs and what a long way it runs is that the nearest refinery we have now. Tangmere repaired and a diesel lets them down always something happens to mess up your plans. Northern must of had a lot of problems getting staff I heard a few cancellations on my day out as well. Nice to see the clock is repaired and I like the one at Lockerbie. The blue Pullman is still my favourite train, a real shame the only thing preserved was, as far as I know, two seats. I have to agree the HST replica does look so good and our best looking train, what also makes it is the attention to detail, the staff in replica uniforms and even at that time in Lockerbie still looking cheerful with time to say hello to you, certainly a very long tiring day for them. It looked like the lady was asking if the train was going to ??? If only our regular service trains were that good
Hi Colin. I believe the plan is for a daily aviation fuel train, running north overnight and south, empty, in the daytime. It's early days yet and we'll have to wait and see what materialises.
I wish I could afford to travel on the Blue Pullman. It's doing a trip from Dumfries to Penzance next month and my first thought was "Forget the cost - let's do it" until I discovered that it's a three-day trip and accommodation in Penzance for two nights is not provided. Idea dropped!
The lady on the platform at Lockerbie was actually asking if the station loos were still open - needless to say, the train crew had no idea.
The clock tower at Lockerbie is on the town hall which is where, twelve years ago, I took my Day Skipper qualification for inshore vessels. All I need now is a boat!
Best wishes.
@@schoolshorts Thats a heck of a lot of fuel Tim Makes you realise just how much aircraft use. Blue Pullman is not cheap but I have seen video on board and sat in similar seats on their Push Pull train when it came to KWVR railway Very comfortable. I may treat myself to ride on it one day. It does some very long day trips as well as the overnight ones I wonder how many do the full tour. Looking at the weather at Carnforth on Saturday you were lucky not to need a boat LOL. We chose the right places to go that day.
What was the reason behind the design of this type of locomotive, surely the design does nothing for aesthetics or aerodynamics ? Any ideas ?
Just before the 2nd World War the Southern had developed the basic carriage wash which we see today. The idea was for the locomotive and train would go through the wash together so as to reduce manpower for cleaning purposes. The air smooth cassing caused problems typical for the railway!
In the 1930s streamlining was all the rage. Gresley streamlined his A4 class locomotives for the LNER and the survivors retain their streamlining to the present day. Stanier streamlined some of his LMS Coronation class engines but the outer casing was eventually removed leaving a more conventional machine.
Oliver Bulleid had been personal assistant to Gresley and after taking over as Chief Mechanical Engineer to the Southern Railway he tried to modernise steam locomotive design using practices taken from the motor car industry - chain driven valve gear, enclosed oil baths etc - which caused more problems than it solved! He never referred to his Merchant Navy locos as "streamlined" but rather as "air-smoothed". I agree with you re the aesthetics - I've never liked the looks of them, but that's a matter of personal taste. I'm sure there'll be many who disagree with me. Many of the Merchant Navy and Light Pacific classes were rebuilt with conventional valve gear and without the outer casing, becoming - to my mind - some of the best-looking steam engines ever. Once again, a matter of personal taste. They were very powerful and lightweight, leading to a marked propensity to slip - and remained notoriously smoky to the end of their days - many examples can be found among my videos.
@@geoffreyford7288 southern railfans niknamed them [spam cans]
I believe the designer (one O.V.S. Bulleid) required to lower the engine's air resistance at-speed , but in war-time was not readily allowed to refer to this as "streamlining". This was accordingly modified to (an) "air-smoothed casing"...