Jason, ForeFlight pro tip for you when you drew the pattern. Open the FPL, click Procedure, click Traffic Pattern, select the runway, select (straight in, 45, cross midfield teardrop/direct) and it will draw it for you.
Went to a very busy Charlie airport (John Wayne) yesterday and totally butchered my clearance readback. Feels bad, but it was my first clearance I'd ever done and I was very stressed out, so I studied the 4 items he gave me afterwards so I'm prepared next time. (1. Turn/Heading 2. Altitude 3. Radio Frequency 4. Transponder )
Hey Jason! I just watched your intro video to aviation leadership for Liberty University (totally none related to this video); it really resonated with me - thank you for all you do and share with us- you're fantastic! Also, awesome video!
As a pilot and controller - another great video. Only thing to add is when you get the atis, let atc know. And yes, that atis guy is annoying! Even in the break room :) safe travels!
My private pilot training were at "Pompano Beach airpark" (KPMP). I never saw guys from the tower but their voices sounds like a 70+ years old mans. Every time after landing I heard "cherokee 7500 contact ground". And you know what? After changing frequency I heard the same voice in my headset. Old school ATC.
I so wish I could go up and fly, even if it's just for a short flight in one of those Cessnas one day. God knows, it may happen. Maybe it's just because I'm blind and am used to speech and voices evolving over the years, but that voice reading the ATIS is kind of cool to hear, But I completely understand why it could creap some people out. And it's fasinating to listen to ATC! I love these videos! Keep it up the both of you!
Transferring from a profession where radio traffic needs to be clear and concise, I find the "I can talk 1,000 words a minute" annoying and doesn't sound as professional as people think. That speed is negated if I need you to read it again.
Fast != Efficient. There’s no reason for the approach controller to speak so fast; the spacing requirements certainly leave enough gaps to speak at a normal pace. It’s a very inefficient way to communicate because it increases the likelihood of a miscommunication or results in back and forth clarifications which end up taking more time than had he spoken at a normal pace. I re-listened the part where he clears Jason to proceed to mid-field left downwind 24 and can barely understand it. Personally I’d just repeat the part I understood, and then request clarification followed by “speak slower” as per ATC Pilot/Controller Vocabulary: SPEAK SLOWER− Used in verbal communications as a request to reduce speech rate.
Quick question here. When you are handed over tower form APP, is it okay to say just distance and direction with tail number like you in the video? I know app and tower are kind of connected and share our info so just tail number could be enough. but I want to know official standard phraseology. Should I say all info to tower like when I go class D airport(name,direction,distance,intention,ATIS.etc.)?? Thanks.
Nav Canada use a computer ATIS at many airports but with a much more sophisticated speech synthesis system. My home base (Kamloops CYKA) has an 8000 foot runway and I'm practicing tailoring my touchdown points. It's hard not to touch down just past the numbers...
A question, Jason..... what is the red flashing light next to the Dynon at the top under the glareshield? I tend to be adverse to red lights and flashing even more, so I wonder what this might be given that it flashes for the entire flight.
That first ATC sounded like a fast talking teenage valley girl. Just because you can talk that fast doesn't mean everyone can understand you. Guess I'll never be a pilot. :(
Yeh, where's your shades today? Don't let that creepy ATIS stay in your head. Also, we heard from the air that tower was controlling ground traffic when 1103 asked about something being open.
Ft. Meyers needs to switch to decaf.
Have you ever flown in NYC?😂😂😂
That was Exactly my thought!!!
Did my early flight training in that area but don’t remember Fort Myers’s controllers being that over-caffeinated!!
Jason, ForeFlight pro tip for you when you drew the pattern. Open the FPL, click Procedure, click Traffic Pattern, select the runway, select (straight in, 45, cross midfield teardrop/direct) and it will draw it for you.
Thanks for this. Very cool feature I hadn’t looked at before
Nice!
I just learned that feature too....love it.
Jason you literally read my mind. I’m going into a Class C airport tomorrow and this is the video I need. Thanks a lot man!
Went to a very busy Charlie airport (John Wayne) yesterday and totally butchered my clearance readback. Feels bad, but it was my first clearance I'd ever done and I was very stressed out, so I studied the 4 items he gave me afterwards so I'm prepared next time. (1. Turn/Heading 2. Altitude 3. Radio Frequency 4. Transponder )
Love it- turns date night into a flight lesson!
I’m lucky to train out of a busy class C. I feel super confident with my radios as a result
Hey Jason! I just watched your intro video to aviation leadership for Liberty University (totally none related to this video); it really resonated with me - thank you for all you do and share with us- you're fantastic!
Also, awesome video!
Liberty Flames! 🔥God bless you, Adley! Good luck with your aviation schooling! I'm over in Cali doing the same. ✌
As a pilot and controller - another great video. Only thing to add is when you get the atis, let atc know. And yes, that atis guy is annoying! Even in the break room :) safe travels!
My private pilot training were at "Pompano Beach airpark" (KPMP).
I never saw guys from the tower but their voices sounds like a 70+ years old mans. Every time after landing I heard "cherokee 7500 contact ground". And you know what? After changing frequency I heard the same voice in my headset.
Old school ATC.
Always good to see your stuff in my feed
Learned to fly in class B and C airspace. Have have ears really working
Thank You...very calm and relaxed...Appreciate the video and learning opportunity.
I so wish I could go up and fly, even if it's just for a short flight in one of those Cessnas one day. God knows, it may happen. Maybe it's just because I'm blind and am used to speech and voices evolving over the years, but that voice reading the ATIS is kind of cool to hear, But I completely understand why it could creap some people out. And it's fasinating to listen to ATC! I love these videos! Keep it up the both of you!
As usual, a great video from the best!!
It’s also cool in ForeFlight where you can zoom in and it’ll show you the floors and ceilings of each part of the airspace as well as the frequencies.
I wish these controllers would slow down just a little.
Transferring from a profession where radio traffic needs to be clear and concise, I find the "I can talk 1,000 words a minute" annoying and doesn't sound as professional as people think.
That speed is negated if I need you to read it again.
And second importantly remember to like this amazing video:)
I really like the digital guy!! He's doing his best! :) LOL
Between the manic atc guy and the creepy Atis I dont think Im going to Ft Meyers any time soon.
Fun fact, the “regular” AWOS guys name is Jim for real and yes the automated guy is creppy
Fast != Efficient. There’s no reason for the approach controller to speak so fast; the spacing requirements certainly leave enough gaps to speak at a normal pace. It’s a very inefficient way to communicate because it increases the likelihood of a miscommunication or results in back and forth clarifications which end up taking more time than had he spoken at a normal pace. I re-listened the part where he clears Jason to proceed to mid-field left downwind 24 and can barely understand it. Personally I’d just repeat the part I understood, and then request clarification followed by “speak slower” as per ATC Pilot/Controller Vocabulary:
SPEAK SLOWER− Used in verbal communications as a request to reduce speech rate.
Agree, He even had to ask twice for number and type of AC.
Awesomeness thanks
Quick question here. When you are handed over tower form APP, is it okay to say just distance and direction with tail number like you in the video? I know app and tower are kind of connected and share our info so just tail number could be enough. but I want to know official standard phraseology. Should I say all info to tower like when I go class D airport(name,direction,distance,intention,ATIS.etc.)?? Thanks.
I grew up next to RSW! I am a flight student in Utah and flew into SLC a class B airport with my instructor and it didn’t seem as intense as this
I love the robot atis :)
The atis sounds like a cross between sylvester stalone and steven hawking
That controller should become an auctioneer when he retires!
blablablabalabalabalaba mike zulu. Holy moly! ATIS " would you like to play a game"? 🤣
I had to check my playback speed on that controller!
Nav Canada use a computer ATIS at many airports but with a much more sophisticated speech synthesis system.
My home base (Kamloops CYKA) has an 8000 foot runway and I'm practicing tailoring my touchdown points. It's hard not to touch down just past the numbers...
A question, Jason..... what is the red flashing light next to the Dynon at the top under the glareshield? I tend to be adverse to red lights and flashing even more, so I wonder what this might be given that it flashes for the entire flight.
I think those are recording lights from the GoPro's.
200 words per minute gusting 300 😂
RE: Adding sunglasses to the ACS - don’t give the FAA any ideas!
That first ATC sounded like a fast talking teenage valley girl. Just because you can talk that fast doesn't mean everyone can understand you. Guess I'll never be a pilot. :(
Yeh, where's your shades today? Don't let that creepy ATIS stay in your head. Also, we heard from the air that tower was controlling ground traffic when 1103 asked about something being open.
Australian robot ATIS are far less robot like. I found in general when I lived in the states speech synthesis is stuck in the dark ages.
Lol yeah the digital voice is creepy. I live within Class Delta airspace, so the controllers record the ATIS themselves.
Might have been easier if you had Uniform before calling in.
I was wondering that.
@@chrisbeber9177 Usually you would know what the ATIS or ASOS is prior to your "cold call."
can't hear single words atc said... am I the only one?
Yes, somewhat creepy and definitely too busy for my liking.
I don't like the robot atis much but not creepy.
That’s too fast to talk. That’s how stuff gets missed.
robot ATIS.
You should really fly from the left seat unless you are actively instructing.