What's My Line? - Robert Young & Jane Wyatt; David Niven [panel] (Sep 21, 1958)
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- MYSTERY GUEST: Robert Young & Jane Wyatt [played the parents in "Father Knows Best"]
PANEL: Dorothy Kilgallen, David Niven, Arlene Francis, Bennett Cerf - Zábava
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I must say it is refreshing and sadly nostalgic to see the chairmen of the two main parties behaving as adult American human beings striving for the common good, rather than the current vitriolic mutual contempt such officials now display. And, in fact, WML often radiates a good deal of patriotism and national pride, usually expressed by John Daly.
Especially true here in 2020
I think another party will be forming in America.
Lead needs to fly to eliminate the slave masters, who own every aspect of our once great country...decades of divide and conquer is how they opperate... just look at the mess LIBTARD thought has created!
Centrists like you who think people didn’t have a reason to be vehemently opposed to the poor excuse for a man in power three years ago and his band of bigots will be the downfall of this country.
@@ct6410 "Poor kids are just as smart as white kids."
I have always loved Jane Wyatt's sophisticated beauty and that wonderful voice.
What's sophisticated about it? List ten things.
@@keithhyttinen8275 You list 10 that's not.
This episode can go on a short list of great ones to use to introduce WML to new viewers. A little politics, but in a nice way; a little pop culture; two beloved entertainers; a great guest panelist; and most of all, wonderful good spirits all around. If your friends are wondering what you like about a six-decade-old game show, this might show them why we get addicted to it.
To this day I still watch Father Knows Best
Me too.2022. Also Leave It To Beaver and Perry Mason
@@dinahbrown902 I watched an episode of "The Waltons" just yesterday. A 1970's show, but the setting for it was primarily the 1930's. It's better than anything on network television today.
@@watchman1178 Truth
Me too!
Did you know that Robert Young was drunk most of the time while filming?
A very civilised, charming and witty show. Daly was a brilliant host.
Just think, this was how the world used to be - polite, kind, and fun. How sad we are going downhill like all of the other civilizations before us. But there is a Savior who died to rescue us from ourselves -and give us new life and hope. The Lord Jesus Christ.
Ike was president- the war was over- (we all felt safe).
I do so love the humor and verbal banter amongst everybody. It's so much fun to watch these shows! Thank you, WML, for giving us this chance to enjoy these looks in the past. :)
I'm 67 years old and still have my original hula hoop-I also have my marbles-it was great staying up late on Sunday night watching Whats My Line.
+Paul A Kosik
Congratulations! There are many people a lot younger than you who no longer have all their marbles!
I have my marbles
There are not many people who would even fit into a hula hoop today, let alone make it twirl around.
I hoop every day during my afternoon workout at home. My research indicated that hooping is beneficial to glutes, thighs, abs, and lower back. Found out recently from my uncle who goes to a gym that people hoop there!
What about jacks? Did you ever play jacks, and if so, do you still have yours?
Two very wonderful entertainers from the forgotten past!
@z Everyone there!!!!!
I was a little girl when this show was on TV. I loved watching with my parents!
Wyatt and Young both seem like very nice people.
Loved Jane Wyatt in ' Lost Horizon.' My all-time fav movie. Beautiful lady.
absolutely !
Yes, another Frank Capra gem.
Jane Wyatt had such a sweet and yet sophisticated Beauty. And that voice. The civil way the 2 political gentlemen behaved toward each other was impressive.
With 9 down and 1 to go Miss Francis pulls the mystery guess occupation, the two heads of Dem/Rep parties in the first round. This show always amazing in how they regular to do that seemingly out of thin air
I love David Niven's smile!
When hula hoops came out, our dad made some for us out of water hose and a push in fittings. Worked fine!
Love this show❤️
Jane Wyatt is most famous for being in three highly idealized places: Shangr-La, Springfield and the Starship Enterprise.
And she lived for decades in ultra tony Bel Air, California...so she even achieved that status in her private life.
Indeed , she was delightful In " Lost Horizon "
@@michaelnivens6267 ... a timeless classic where she symbolized nothing less than hope for humanity.
How refreshing it is to hear two different political parties sit and talk civility to one another not like the immature babies that are running our political parties. This is for both parties.
We have almost completely DEVOLVED into a nation of chaos. I remember those days in the early 60s, a few years after this broadcast. They were CIVIL times. Though still imperfect in many ways.
We were a better people then.
Politics are simply a reflection of who we are as a nation.
@@thesweeples3266this was before the civil rights movement. It was still perfectly legal to have "whites only" signs. You were not a better people back then.
Always liked Jane Wyatt and Robert Young
Did anybody understand David Niven’s question about a “manhole”. It was in reference to “Leave it to Beaver” when in the opening credits of the show during I believe the first season it showed a illustrated sidewalk with a manhole cover and the names of the stars of the show would scroll over it. So David Niven was thinking that this was possibly Barbara Billingsley and Hugh Beaumont.
I think the manhole reference was to Art Carney in the Honeymooners whose character worked in the sewers
Thank you. I think you are right.
Barbara Billingsley was a Hottie. 🔥
LedHed Steven 🎶 🎸 🎹 🎸 🎶
During the mystery guest segment, I thought Daly was giving a big clue when he said he'd have to check with his doctor.... then I realized that "Marcus Welby" was still 10 years in the future. :-D 19:55
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😅😂
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David Niven won the Oscar for his role in separate tables.
"Once More, With Feeling" ran for 263 performances on Broadway and was produced by Martin Gabel.
And became a movie starring Yul Brynner and Kay Kendell
"Father Knows Best" actually started in 1949 as an NBC radio sitcom with Robert Young as insurance agent Jim Anderson. The rest of the radio cast was completely different from the cast of the CBS television program. The TV sitcom of the same name featuring Jane Wyatt as Margaret Anderson aired for six seasons (1954 to 1960). One strange thing is that the TV series moved from CBS (1954-55) to NBC (1955-58) and then back to CBS (1958-60). I've known of more than one TV show that started on one network and continued an another one, but I hadn't heard of one that started on one network, continued on a different network and moved back to the original network.
+ToddSF 94109 Even more interesting is that the first CBS season...it was the lead in to LINE on Sunday nights.
After its ending in 1960 with the original episodes, the series continued to air in prime time with reruns on CBS for three more years. It is fascinating to know that. Has that ever happened again?
@@robertgold3868 And then to ABC .
Fascinating move between networks, wonder why?
@DonaldStanfield Back then, the sponsor owned the show, not the network. Sometimes the sponsors moved their shows to different networks. Maybe a better time slot came up or something like that. I was watching a video with John Forsythe and he was talking about a tv show he did called Bachelor Father. He said the on 2 or 3 networks during its run. He said it was the sponsor’s decision. It didn’t seem like he cared that it was moved around.
There were nearly 30 westerns on network tv in the 1958-59 season!
I lived much of my younger life in a country in which both political parties mostly behaved in respectful ways that valued our Democracy.
What a great episode!
My get away from it all place to go during the lock down 2020. So many stars from my youth both panel and guests. Also the fashion of the 50s!
Wham-O always tickled me.
Knerr lived until January 2008.
Imagine if the heads of the Democratic and Republican parties did a TV show together today? Instead of sitting beside each other and smiling amicably, they'd be strangling each other and cursing the other one.
I know it looks that way, but the two parties have a long history of being gossipy cut throats. Just look at Andrew Jackson's campaign against his supposed bigamist wife or Grover Cleveland and his alleged sexual assault on a woman which resulted in his illegitimate child. Today's politics is nothing new really
Galileocan g Maybe
Galileocan g maybe :P
Don't forget this was shortly after the McCarthy era; one of the most contentious in history.
That’s what happens when one party is full of racists, sexists, anti-intellectuals and conspiracy theorists who believe the those of us fighting for everyone to have food are “inhuman” and “should be killed.”
They just don't make shows like this. Thank you.
Gawd! I LOVE THIS SHOW!!! ❤️ I remember watching it on Sunday nights with my family, but it’s all new to me now in my 65th year. And I’ve got so many more episodes to enjoy.
Ha! Me too! Sunday night at 9:30 PM local time. Being a "school night" my mom would let us watch the show provided we take our bath, brush our teeth, get our PJ's on, get a drink of water, and go to the bathroom BEFORE the show started. It was them immediately off to bed when the show was over.
I'm wishing there was no end to them! I'm 67 and LOVE watching these! They are wonderful!!!
David Niven was so suave.
Pat Gawne -- Also debonaire as Dorothy said -- and elegant.
Magnificent Failure a gentleman's gentlemen
David Niven played a fool in Chitty Chitty Bang Bang, while Dick Van Dyke had a wonderful part!
Thank you for these. The memories. The people. The America 🇺🇸 that doesn't exist anymore.
LedHed Steven 🎶 🎸 🎹 🎸 🎶
David Niven best actor winner for his role in 'Separate Tables.'
Loved him when on this show. Funny.
These were simpler times.
I long for simpler times.
We were a better people then.
I love Father knows best
God Bless President Eisenhower! Great general. Great President. If I were born then I would have voted for him.
I did. It was the first presidential election that I was old enough to vote.
Born then? You’d have to have been 21. ;-)
@@hennpaul: Exactly. I was born then, but toddlers can't vote. ;-)
A good thing that Arlene didn't keep asking the stage manager during her theater performance, "What's my line?"
Good one, Lois!
I was born on that exact date! Sept. 21, 1958.!
David Niven the perfect English gentleman, so ideally cast as the RAF pilot in the very moving
A Matter of Life and Death 1946.
That was a good one.
Robert Young in the days before all of his friends became too tense from too much caffeine! :)
For a while, "Father Knows Best" was sponsored in part by Maxwell House coffee...a decade before he switched to Sanka!
The hoola-hoop guy was so handsome and charming - I would have loved a date with him! Maybe I could have charmed him - I once won a hula hoop contest! Most creative with a hula hoop AND kept hoola-hooping the longest amount of time without it falling! :)
I am in my late 60's and tried to do a hoola hoop, when my leg cramped and my friend had to help me to the car to get home. I called in to work sick the next day and told them I sprained my ankle at a restaurant. This was my birthday. I wouldn't dare tell them the truth! I limped for a few weeks and soaked a lot in Epson Salt. Never again.
I love Dorothy Kilgallen!! What a witty, sharp, interesting, intelligent and accomplished lady!
Bennett had a point - why not encourage donations to other parties instead of constantly funding the same dysfunctional two-party system?
Is it not. It dysfunction domestically and looks slight unhinged from abroad. Would you say it's deeply dysfunctional? Terminally dysfunctional? Or mildly/not at all? If the last I know who is also suffering from dysfunction, in this case cognitive.
+Ray Izard
Having watched about 9 years of Bennett by now, as well as remembering him from when WML was on the air, I would say that Bennett was joking. Norman Thomas as the Socialist candidate got a tiny fraction of the vote when he ran for President. The highest percentage he ever received was 2.2% in 1932, the first Presidential election after the stock market crash on 1929. He only received more than half a percent of the vote one time (0.7%).
This is not to say that Thomas himself was a joke. An ordained Presbyterian minister and a good orator, he was respected beyond what his vote totals would indicate despite espousing generally unpopular positions. But he never had a 3rd party impact on a Presidential election the way that Robert LaFollette (1924), Strom Thurmond and Henry Wallace (1948), George Wallace (1968), John Anderson (1980), Ross Perot (1992/96) and Gary Johnson (2016) had.
Furthermore, Thomas had not run for President since 1948. During that election, he received nearly 140,000 votes (~0.3%). In 1952 and 1956, the Socialist Party nominated Darlington Hoopes. His vote total declined to little more than 20,000 votes in '52 and barely over 2000 votes in '56. There was no significant third party support during the 1956 Presidential election. Nor was there any during the 1958 elections for the House and Senate.
John Texas In my 55 years as a student of politics I have never seen the 2 major political parties (President and legislative at all levels) in a more dysfunctional state than in the last 20 years. I cannot seeing it getting any more dysfunchional short of anarchy. That the types of Sen. Harry Reid did what he did is stark testimony to my assessment and I'm an independent (with a small "i"), so foolish to vote for the most qualified candidate.
You're delusional!
@John Texas Standing by that still?
they should have had groucho on when the party heads were appearing
Paul Butler was an attorney from Indiana was never was elected to public office. He was chairman of the DNC from 1955-60 and he died in 1961. He was only in his mid-50's when he died.
Meade Alcorn was also an attorney. He won various elected offices in his native state of Connecticut and was chairman of the RNC from 1957-59. He died in 1992 at the age of 84.
Jane is so gorgeous.
@Randy Acuna, and even at 80 as Spock’s mom
I think they look so cute together.
The politicians? ;)
lol!
Because I had to look it up: Norman Thomas, who Bennett mentions at 11:30 or so, was a Presbyterian minister, pacifist (who opposed American participation in WWI), and overall progressive liberal socialist. (Among many other things, he helped found the forerunner to the ACLU.) The reason Bennett mentions him in this context is because he ran as the Socialist nominee for President six times.
That's interesting information. I looked him up and will read some more. Hmm!
+juliansinger
There is a high school in Manhattan named after him (formerly known as Central Commercial High School). It is in a rather imposing brick building on the NE corner of Park Avenue and E. 33rd Street and one of the first things you see when you emerge from the 33rd Street station on the 6 train (East Side IRT Lexington Ave-Pelham Local).
A good thing for Rich Knerr that John Payne didn't come back as guest panelist for another week.
I grew up in San Gabriel Ca where Hula Hoops were made along with many great other products. I knew several people who worked at the company and went to school with the Melin kids.
This was before Jane Wyatt would dump Robert Young for a Vulcan ...
Wish she'd dropped them both for me!
Father knows best was the best of the two.
I wouldn't dump Robert Young for ANYONE.
On this date, the Milwaukee Braves would clinch the NL pennant during the first of four seasons without a NL team in New York City. The Yankees had already clinched the AL pennant. The 1958 World Series would see a rematch of the teams that contested it in 1957. This time the Yankees would win in 7 games after losing in 7 games in 1957. Perhaps reflecting the mourning of New York City for the loss of the Dodgers and Giants, baseball was conspicuously absent from WML in 1958 ever since Duke Snider appeared in January on an episode that took place at CBS's Television City in L.A.
I'VE ALWAYS THOUGHT ARLENE AND BENNETT HAD A CRUSH ON EACH OTHER!
Eeeewwwwww
Mutual admiration is more like it I believe.
They have great chemistry, anybody can see that.
Loved Jane Wyatt as Amanda,Spock's human mother on Star Trek
Jane Wyatt had timeless beauty.
Jane Wyatt had such class
Yes, she was well-educated from a wealthy background. It was genuine.
@@MTknitter22 Yes; she was written up in the Social Register
Ten years and a day before I was born, and had this version of WML still been on the air, would also have aired 'on' my birthday. I was born on a Sunday.
My grandmother was 8 when this episode aired...
I was 7 years old when this episode aired!
+spikebythesea I wasnt even in the planning stages when this episode aired! :)
I was 6!
I was -4!
@Purple Capricorn
Wow, your grandma was born in 1950? YOU are YOUNG! My grandma was born back in 1915! You couldn't be more than 25 when you wrote that. I hope you can make this world a better place, cuz the way it's going now is frightening!
Speaking of Father Knows Best, I met Elinor Donahue about 1981 or 82 when she was playing in a theater production at a local theater in St Petersburg! she was staying at the apartment complex, temporarily where I used to live. She's very nice.
Loved her on The Andy Griffith Show too!
I watch that show because Elinor is so cute. I have a photo of her in a bathing suit. I guess she's in her early 80's now ?
@@dancelli714: 84 now.
Interesting, Eisenhower was president when I was a born but I was too young to remember. I remember president Kennedy.
Arlene looks much better the older she got.
Back then they knew how to make pretty, feminine dresses.
Politicians asking for money.
Nothing new.
Fantastic show.
Well, I feel silly. The whole time I was thinking "gee that doesn't look at all like Jane Wyman"! Oops! 🤭
You're not the first to confuse the two of them. :)
I always did confuse the two of them.
One was the first wife of President Ronald Reagan.
@@RonGerstein my first introduction to Jane Wyman was as a kid in the 80s watching her play the villainous matriarch on Falcon Crest. My parents informed me she was once the wife of our president, which I found both fabulous and hilarious.
jane is almost 50 yrs of age here
Jane looks fantastic!
@@deboraholsen2504 She was born in 1910, Arlene was born in 1907, and Dorothy in 1913.
The way John says "with a WHAT??: at 21:43 is just hilarious
That was fun thanks coolsweet agreed
Celeste Gray """"
I imagined a romantic movie with images and music with starrings Jane Wyman and Gregory Peck
Jane Wyatt is uniquely beautiful.
We lack a lot of patriotism and country pride.
Well. Father does
Francis was such a smart A.
Reminds me when my mother and mother in law took a picture together at my husband's and I's wedding.... Arlene's comment..... They will never be in the same room again because they hate each other but they are both full of the same sh*t and were probably sisters in another life they're so alike in their stupid ways
I am also thinking of an extra chair
A minor blooper at 1:25. Actually a director's blooper. Maybe Gary can use this in the next blooper edition
+Dick Wilson The bloopers video is already done, Dick. :) But thanks for pointing out this moment.
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Dick Wilson maybe the director was anticipating another appearance from that random guy running through the set again!
What would those two committee heads think of our disgusting and despicable 21st century politics?
At least they spoke civily. Politicians long-winded as usual. Give them nothing.
Just a question about US politics from outside the US, could there ever be a 3rd or 4th party competing with the Democrats and Republicans in national elections? I seem to remember Ross Perot trying to be elected as an outside presidential candidate. Is there something in the US constitution or electoral system that rules out a coalition of parties as we see very often in Europe?
There are different parties on the ballot, but they don't have the money the two major parties have. To travel all over the country campaigning. Ross Perot did run as a Independent and was very rich.
It's almost impossible. The two parties have rigged it. Just like they rig everything else. It's ok for them to squabble with each other, but no one else. They get their money no matter which side wins. It's not about us, it's about them.
Anyone else besides me think that Jane Wyatt and Joan Collins lookalike? they really do and so sad Robert Young had such a troubled life
coolsweetgroovy ?
Rebecca Quartieri, Young suffered from depression and anxiety for much of his life and battled alcoholism for many years. He was shy and deeply insecure, with low self-esteem (probably the result of childhood trauma) but later spoke out about his issues, hoping it would help others. He was a kind, talented, intelligent man and he had a long life. Left behind a great body of work. Jane Wyatt was a lovely person too. RIP both of them.
Somewhat. But there were differences.
@gcjerryusc Well, he was very bitter about Hollywood casting practices. And just because someone is famous and successful doesn't mean that they haven't got issues from traumatic events, inherited tendencies, and brain chemistry problems. I wish you well.
@@Muirmaiden I think we all suffer from depression time and again. I just work through it.
To be the by rep the no nonsense no prisoners taken type of columnist that Miss Kilgallen was ,she seemed prim and proper with a girlish high speaking voice .
I miss David Niven
Meade Alcorn looks like Don Knotts. Does anyone ELSE see that perfect comparison?
Slightly.
I wish they had Don Knotts on WML.
But this the mid-1950's, before the wealthy and powerful corporate PACs emerged and took over our political parties during the 1980s and now very much control all significant legislation during the past generation. That is why from Carter to Obama there was little real change in the standard of living of middle class Americans. The salaries have been flat since 1975, which not coincidently coincides with the end of the Vietnam War.Legislation favors those with sufficient funds to purchase legislation that is favorable to their own interests.Back in the 1940s and '50s there were such things as liberal or moderate Republicans and of course conservative (often Southern) Democrats.A good book by Brooks Adams is called "The Law of Civilization and Decay." Discusses the consequences of the concentration of capital and the ability of capital to control national politics during the last several hundred years in Europe and now in America. By 2100 probably a rather small group of families will unify the world, but probably not in the best interest of the majority of the world's population. There is always a ruling minority and the majority that is ruled. (Gaetano Mosca)
Donald Whittaker :/
21:28 "Does it have a plot?" LOL
Couldn't the production afford another chair? LOL
They could have just for the show. But to install would have been awkward.
They used a specially designed chair for two in order to establish a reasonably tight two-shot of the challengers. This was particularly comical in the Dean Martin/Jerry Lewis episode where it looked like Jerry was on Dean's lap. The panel shot, of four people, is only ever a brief establishing shot. Whenever a panel member speaks there is a close up. This was pretty much the visual language of television at that time.
I think cause back then didnt have cameras to get tight shot....had to sit close together
Thanks for all of the insights. I've often wondered about this myself.📺
Back when the politicians actually cared about the country and the people.
You actually believe that they genuinely cared?
Arlene looks a lot older than she did in the 1960 shows.
Arlene had some great procedures and plastic surgery. She looked old to me in the Doris Day movie though, early 60's.
How’d she look in her 1932 film appearance?
Arlene. LedHed Steven 🎶 🎸 🎹 🎸 🎶
@@st.louisdxer9616 Dark haired and Jewish.
Why does John insist on addressing Mr. Kneer as Dick when he introduced himself as Rich? And was there a reason they couldn't provide each committee head his own chair? So puzzling to me.
maremacd "Dick" was used as an especially familiar nickname for Richard or Rich. I think maybe Daly was trying to work off his joke when he asked Knerr if he really was "Rich".
The thing with the chair was a kind of running gag on the show. Many times there were multiple guests sitting in the same chair.
12:16
To add extra chairs in advance where the panel could see them would've provided clues. Also, it would be awkward for a stagehand to bring one on just before the contestants appeared and then have to take it off after they left and bring it out again for the next twosome and so on.
One could never imagine what a mess our election is at the time of this show. Cheating seems to be the rule. May the best man win?
In 1958, we were fortunate to have defeated fascism. In 2016, we elected it! 😢😢
12-22-2022.
Robert Young, did not stay Young!
Does David Niven offer to give Dorothy Kilgallen an iPhone? @1:22
"I'd like to pay you back by giving you an item for your column..."
:D
Goddam, Arlene is a sharp cookie.
What was he thinking about the “manhole”?
MyRumplestiltskin
MyRumplestiltskin
2 months ago
Did anybody understand David Niven’s question about a “manhole”. It was in reference to “Leave it to Beaver” when in the opening credits of the show during I believe the first season it showed a illustrated sidewalk with a manhole cover and the names of the stars of the show would scroll over it. So David Niven was thinking that this was possibly Barbara Billingsley and Hugh Beaumont.
Original opening of " Leave It To Beaver "
'this is an election year'? 1958? not a presidential election- not in 1958. as far as congressional elections or governorships or local elections, every year seems to be an election year
I always thought you could eat hoopla hoops?
I refuse to watch any episode that doesn't include Dorothy.
Robert young was 51 here! Not to be mean but looks a lot older