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- The following is an episode of the quiz show Dotto. It was this particular episode where a stand-by contestant found out the champion on stage had the answers to the questions shed was answering in a notebook in the contestant's dressing room. Because of this episode, all quiz shows became open to investigation of being rigged.
I do not own any rights to this show or music, this is uploaded for entertainment and nostalgic purposes.
Ironically, Marie Winn would many years later write a book called "The Plug-In Drug", criticizing television!
I was in 8th grade and school was on double session. Watched Dotto every morning and it was my favorite. Especially liked the contestant with the "magic finger" who, no matter how few dots he had connected always could figure out the answer. Oh well!!!
To answer the Brit, U.S. daytime TV had back then a lot more commercial time than TV in a lot of other countries. Colgate-Palmolive had six minutes to sell their products and took every minute. Also, American TV has always been allowed to plug the providers of their prizes, which are provided either as a straight trade for time, a discount for purchasing larger prizes (like vacations or cars) or with a promotional fee attached. It became more regulated after the quiz scandals.
As some of you may now, Marie Winn went on to write the book "The Plug-In Drug," an indictment of American television, particularly involving children. Did her appearance on "Dotto" provide the seed for the book?
Wish so
The book Prime Time and Misdemeanors gives the whole story of how the New York District Attorney's Office was notified about the rigging of this show.
A great read...would also recommend the much earlier Television Fraud (1976) by Kent Andrews, if you can find it...actually includes a transcript of this ep, plus two from Twenty-One!
The answer to the secret is Beethoven. Where's my Edsel convertible?
Is it okay that your edsel has deteriorated and scratch marks and a broken windshield
It got those scratch marks and broken windshield even before it left the showroom. Also, the engine was defective!
LOL! :)
According to Mr. Hilgemeier's affidavit to the FCC- he, Mrs. Kimball-Slatin, and her lawyer met with the producer of Dotto that evening. The next day Dotto began with Jack Narz announcing that Marie Winn would not appear due to illness, adding she would be back on the show after she recovered (she never did return).
The sad thing is that this is actually a good concept. Only problem was the lack of a bonus round just like the Jack Barry Tic-Tac-Dough.
Such a shame that the corrupt powers behind this show rigged it, and to this day, it has yet to be given a second chance (like Tic-Tac-Dough and 21).
I hear there was a British version around this time that wasn't rigged, but good luck trying to recover what remains of that version.
Best shot is a Belgium and French revival I read somewhere, but haven't exactly found anything like that.
The stand-by contestant who spied Marie Winn's book was named Edward Hilgemeier, and he actually didn't appear on the show.
He and the defeated contestant confronted the producers, and both were paid money to keep quiet. When Hilgemeier found out he was paid less than the defeated contestant, he contacted CBS (which aired the daytime version), NBC (which aired the prime-time version), sponsor Colgate-Palmolive, and finally, the Manhattan (New York) District Attorney's office.
Yes. Once they looked at a kinescope of this show they yanked it off the air. That was what *really* opened the eyes of the public - and the government. They held hearings in New York State, but the judge sealed the findings, which prompted the Federal government to do their own investigation....and the rest is history.
What a gem-thank you for posting this!
WOW...been wanting to see this ep for many years...since this is the famous Marie Winn ep where Edward Hilgemier (sic?) found her notebook with the answers in it backstage....and the rest is history. The Dotto scandal made the government investigate all quiz shows, and for good reason!
+L. V.E. It was the smoking gun...
+Paul Duca oh absolutely. I've seen a few documentaries on the quiz show scandal, and also read some of the transcripts from the Federal investigation of quiz shows. To read and hear what they did....the lengths they went to just to keep up ratings and please the sponsor is just sickening.
BTW I do NOT recommend watching the movie Quiz Show because it distorted some of the facts.
Huey, Dewey and Louie? I think they're Donald Duck's nephews. Disney cartoon characters.
I remember watching Dotto when I was a kid. In fact, I seem to remember
this particular episode or one very much like it.
Only I remember the comic strip character "Henry" being the subject
of the puzzle.
One contestant got it right away, forcing the champion to either also
answer or lose the game. She then also answered correctly --- without
a single dot being connected.
Maybe my memory is playing tricks on me and this was the episode.
But at the time, even as a little kid, I smelled a rat.
I remember watching Dotto and loving how they made the drawings appear bit by bit. I also remember that the nighttime version was preceded by Love That Bob, with Bob Cummings. (I think it was called The Bob Cummings Show in first-run.) Sixty years ago?!?!? Get OUT!
That "Dotto-graph" music was creepy as hell...sounded like something out of a horror movie!
Yes it does!🕵️♀️
It sounded better in Primetime lol
I just randomly discovered this show today. 2 episodes in and I felt the whole thing was staged, or at least, in this episode, Marie was a plant. I scrolled down and was surprised to learn that she actually was. That was a scandal I had never heard of before! I wonder if the at-home audiences found it as sketchy (no pun intended) as I did upon first viewing.
The game show "Twenty One"was the focus because of its two contestants, Charles VanDoren (Literature Professor at Columbia U in NYC, good looking, extremely smart and well put together: and Herb Stempel, (From Brooklyn, working class, and not too handsome, but smart). Everyone back then watched the show, which became a rivalry of the brilliant vs. the nerd. No one knew it was rigged until Stempel but the game show producers on blast. It changed how game shows are done from that scandal.
What I noticed is the promotion of name brand products have come a long way.
she must have been cheating because i can't work out how the heck she got the hewey dewey and louie one
She was cheating! She was given the answers in advance.
Not one, but two Edsels!
I thought this started the whole "21" scandal. Wasn't the $64K question,also, under reproach??
Before this, yes. And tic tac dough, the original. (Don't ask)
Both $64k Question and $64k Challenge were rigged, but not in the way the Twenty-One or Dotto was. They knew what their contestants knew and if they wanted one to go, they'd just ask them something they didn't know the answer to. Revlon put pressure on them to keep certain ones, and drop others.
***** that failed though. Ask Dr. Joyce.
witherblaze yes she outsmarted them!
***** now, for $64,000 give me the category of the first $64,000 winner and the exact question he had and the answer on that question.
This is very interesting. The returning challenger, Marie Winn (born 1936 and still alive in 2017) had been provided with the answers ahead of time. A stand-by contestant, Edward Hilgemeier, found her notebook backstage with the questions and answers written ahead of time in it, tore out the pages, and turned them over to authorities. As the caption on this video says, this began the investigation into the honesty of all quiz shows at the time. Edward Hilgemeier, a frustrated entertainer who never found success, died in 1975 at age 41 in Indiana.
Neither Ms. Winn, nor Charles Van Doren (who I believe is also still alive) will talk about their experiences. Many contestants who were on these rigged shows went into hiding, and only a few (AFAIK) have talked about it.
Van Doren did speak out in a NYT article in 2008.
@@bigblue9996 He also did an interview on the Today show in the 1990s.
@@psalm37v4 Van Doren passed last year, and just recently Herb Stempel, the man told to lose to him.
@@psalm37v4 My father used to deliver Meals on Wheels with his mother, a volunteer job. He said she never mentioned anything about the scandal.
The exciting adventure of THE THIN MAN was, as they used to say, "on another network" (NBC)
@11:00 I was thinking I would say Winston Churchill and the lady said that, lol.
They were reluctant to give Michael credit for saying "Huey and Dewey" until Marie gave her (correct) answer. Only then did they accept Michael's answer. Suppose Marie messed up and answered her question wrong- would the "judges" have then told Michael "Sorry- the correct answer is Huey, Dewey, and Louie. You were so close!".
This is how you know it's rigged. It's either you say "Donald's nephews" or you list ALL three of them. Listing two is not good enough.
Interesting that the Cavalcade of Cars shown for the home winner included two Edsels! It was a running gag in 1958 that, when someone took delivery of a new Edsel, someone invariably asked: "Where did you win it?"
Thank you, thank you, Brian!! Been wanting to see this for years! Too bad what happened----a home game of this could've been a million-seller! Also---considering the fate of this show, IMO that "home viewer" grand prize couldn't have been more apropos. :)
+cd637299 Within weeks of DOTTO's premiere in January 1958, it was not only the top rated daytime program, it was the most watched program outside prime time up to that point.
+cd637299 Even more so is the air freshener ad done by Bess Myerson...who, like Marie Winn, would become part of a public scandal--the central figure, in fact.
There was a home version of the British version of DOTTO that i bought on ebay a couple of years or so ago. It plays just like the show. Very interesting game indeed.
Jack Narz was also hosted "Now You See It".
Not to mention replacing Bob Clayton on Classic Concentration. Also hosted the Canadian Beat The Clock. I also heard that Jack once hosted an episode of Name That Tune, while his little brother, Jimmy Tom hosted an episode of Concentration (ala Pat Sajak and Alex Trebek swapping their game shows for one day).
Happily the scandal didn’t hurt Jack Narz, who worked in TV for more than 30 years after Dotto
This is the daytime edition of "DOTTO" [CBS, weekdays at 11:30am(et)], as originally telecast on May 20, 1958; as mentioned at 1:11, classical pianist Van Cliburn's debut at Carnegie Hall was the evening before. 29:18- "THE MILLIONAIRE" episode (also sponsored by Colgate-Palmolive) that was seen the following evening [9pm(et), same network] was "The Paul Naylor Story".
Take your Leastern Time Zone bias, and shove it up your
1st letter
19th letter twice
8th letter
15th letter
12th letter
5th letter!
Oh, she is a cutie...and a cheat.
+Carl Wolf She still is for her age. Cute, I mean. Her sister is writer and journalist Janet Malcolm.
+Carl Wolf She looks just like Yvonne Craig, before she grew her hair out and became Batgirl...
is it ludwig von bethoven
Interestingly the nighttime version of Dotto aired on NBC, not CBS.
I thought it was very insulting and stereotypical when Jack Narz said goodbye to the first lady contestant, who was Native American, he said HOW to her before she left the stage. listen carefully and you'll hear him thru the applause.
I bet 1950's TV drives you crazy.
he said "how" alright
Even better, she wasn't native at all, she was a white woman that created a false native identity.
@amberola1b it was 1958. Stuff like that was expected on TV during that time. It was a very different world from what we know and respect today. Back then individuality, cultures, etc. were NOT respected.
I do not recall seeing DOTTO. I do remember Queen for a Day,64 thousand dollar question. I even remember who the first host of The Price Is Right.No it was not Bob Barker. It was Bill Cullen.Why I never saw ''Dotto'' I just do not know.Hell we left Glendale,Calif. Went to Texas to a city that did not have a functioning TV Station yet. Hello KMID Odessa Midland.
So one white woman masquerading as a Native American and another woman who had a notebook of answers she left lying around offstage. This was one wild show.
Why do you say she was masquerading?
I think she is a real American Indian, I don't see any reason to doubt it. And besides it's hard to tell her true skin colour because the video is overexposed a little.
Kineoscoped
The announcer is the old Colgate-Palmolive commercial spokesman Ralph Paul .
I wonder if the sponsor was aware the show was rigged? On Twenty One, the makers of Geritol and NBC damn sure knew what was going on.
Ralph Paul is the 1st voice you hear on "Dotto".
Back when there were a lot of Ralph's in the country.
Sailordude2012 Ralph Paul is better known as an announcer on "The Ed Sullivan Show.", along with "What's My Line?" & "Number, Please".
Was Jack prophesying something at around 1:25?
Jack Narz had no idea the show was rigged.
Jack Narz would return to TV game show hosting(briefly)in 1960..when he was hired by Bob Quigley and Merrill Heater to mc"Video Village"weekday mornings on CBS TV.
And he quit that show after a couple of months, as part of an unsuccessful attempt to save his marriage (to a woman whose sister was married to fellow game show host Bill Cullen)
Yes millennials, that strange white thing you see at the start of this video is what used to be known as the Telephone 📞, and it had to be plugged into an electric outlet, and the only thing you could use it for was calling and receiving a call. If you wanted to watch TV, listen to radio, hear some music, know what time it is, type a letter, paint or draw a picture, take a photograph, film a video, etc, you had to buy everything you needed separately: TV, radio, typewriter, camera, watch, clock, etc in order to do all those things your dinosaur phone cannot do, and believe it or not, back then that was progress and video games 🎮 did not exist 😮😂
Pretty sure millennials know that since half of them grew up before cellphones and the internet where a thing.....
even us zoomers can at least recognize "retro" tech....
(ik your comment was probably a joke)
I have got to ask, Is this a game show or an infomercial?
Never in my life have I seen a Game/Quiz show that spends more time advertising products than actually playing the game.
It is not something we did in the UK.
1950's (American) TV was similar to the same era radio in that the whole show was sponsored by one advertiser.
My grate grate grate grate grate grandmother remembers this episode.
that's great
@@AlexTheBugMan But it’s grating on my nerves!
Who was in the home dotto picture?
Van Doren died yesterday.
16.03 a real electric model sports car for kids. Now that was neat!
Somehow I find it funny that one of the prizes in the home-viewer showcase is a 1958 Edsel, a car that was probably the biggest automotive disaster of the decade; nothing seemed to work right on it and production was discontinued after two years.
My dad knew the inside workings of an Edsel better than most people. He was a Ford dealership mechanic at the time who specialized in repairing a car’s electrical systems. He absolutely hated working on Edsels - to get at the electrical system that operated the Teletouch Drive gearshifts he had to rip apart the steering wheel and almost the entire left and center portions of the dashboard! Then he had to put everything back together once he was done fixing it!
....... = DOTTO DOTTO DOTTO DOTTO DOTTTO DOTTO DOTTO
I guess this show, was in the 1950s.
What a fraud this show was. Doesn't matter how it was played or the difficulty, if one of the players got the answers it's easy to win.
Dotto dotto dotto dotto dotto dotto dotto dotto
Announcer Ralph Paul
Is Dotto similar to a later draw in the dots show like The Object Is ? i guess those shows were about as honest as the old TV sit coms with their canned laughter machines to make you think those were funny lines . Picking players based on their appeal and supplying some with answers was in their opinion no worse then writing stories for fiction dramas .
Who is the announcer
thanks
Ralph Paul announcer
what are the rules and announcer
Go to Wikipedia
Filthy cheaters
I mean sure.... ._.
Jack Narz was Tom Kennedy’s brother. Jack Al’s hosted a program called Let’s Go To the Races. Films of past horse races and play cards give. Out by local grocers. On street level is was rigged.
Only brothers in TV to be game show hosts?
@@sandrasanders706 - Off of the top of my head.
PS - I would have love to have seen Jack host Nick Arcade, while Jimmy Tom hosted Video Power even though both were in the "retirement home" by then.
Jack is indeed the big brother of Jim "Tom Kennedy" Narz. Fun fact: Jack's last game show was an obscure kiddie show AFTER Tom's final game show (Wordplay). Not counting any failed pilots of course.
7:42 she knows she's gonna win