The BEST Budget Keyboard in 2023 (For Beginners)
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- čas přidán 1. 06. 2024
- How to build your first mechanical keyboard, or custom keyboard! In this video I build the Zoom 98 with thocky Morandi switches and Akko Keycaps!
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0:00 Intro
0:22 Why Build A Custom?
0:51 Preview of Keyboard Build
1:08 What's the BEST Keyboard?
2:08 How to Pick Switches
3:14 Josh's Keyboard
4:07 THOCK VS CLACK
5:09 Picking a Keyboard Layout
5:55 The Keyboard Unboxing
7:55 Why The Zoom 98?
8:53 More Building
9:53 Switches and Stabilizers
11:19 Plate Types
12:17 How to Lube Switches
13:37 IMPORTANT PSAs
14:33 Gaskets?
15:37 How to Pick Keycaps
17:35 Trying the Keyboard
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I didn't think I was a numpad person either until I got into smaller keyboards without them. I found out pretty quick that I used a numpad a lot more than I thought I did.
windows login code lol
same here..i thought i hated the full sized keyboard but when i changed to 75% keyboard,it just felt weird. and i also realized that i used it quite a lot when i have the numpad.
@@Learning2BeBraveThis for sure. I currently use an old ass Razer Blackwidow and I never ever typed the Windows code in the useless number row.
I ended up going down the path of 75% keyboard and a separate numpad on the side which I can away under my monitor when not using it. Best of both worlds
perfect solution is to get a separate wireless numpad and keep it aside. get one with a knob if you can.
The lack of full sized keyboards is the #1 reason I never got into custom keyboards.
Numpad is a must have for me.
They do sell some custom numpads that are detached! So you can put it away when you don’t need it, and have it there when you do!
yeah same... i would love to have a custom keyboard but iam pretty sure those small ones wouldnt fit my needs. :/
There are quite a few 96% keyboards on the market. I have a GMMK 2 96%, and I love it.
@@mikeylaurel That's what I did... It works just like a Full Sized. But I can put it in a drawer when I'm not using it.
I agree. I have a TKL mini and its horrible outside of WASD-gaming. Can't even access my tilde button without using an FN-key.
Who invited Jake Gyllenhaal
Frank the rabbit
Don't tell the swifties
I was thinking Henry Cavill! Good looking chap forsure aha
He looks like Michael Fassbender
Me
I love it when Nola interupts their keyboarding with nothing but cuteness.
Even guests aren't safe from Nola 😄
Cats are weaponized cuteness. That's why I have 4 rescue kitties. 🐱
why not just one? maybe some one else wants a rescue kitty, you'll rescue a cat but give 0 fs to a beggar@@mojoneko8303
@@mojoneko8303wow!
Go Team Numpad!
My Epomaker RT 100 is still my favorite keyboard! 1800 non-compact is way better than 1800 compact. The very small amount of spacing between the alphanumeric section, the numpad, and the arrow keys (which are displaced slightly downward on the RT 100) makes a lot of difference when it comes to touch-typing and knowing where you are as you try to hit arrow keys and go to the numpad. I will also say that when I'm using the arrow keys and want to hit Enter, it's a lot easier (and built into my instincts) to swing out my pinky to hit the numpad Enter key rather than shifting my whole hand upward and leftward to hit the alphanumeric Enter key with my index finger or whatever.
That Zoom98 looked like a great option for someone who rationally likes and needs a numpad. It's a bit closer to a full size keyboard than I prefer, but it's a great start and I hope he's having a great time typing on that! There really is something to be said about the comfort factor in our human-tech interaction, as Taeha Types pointed out in one of his introductory videos.
Numpad is useless u have numbers at the top and numpad is waste of space
@Natyan-VR if you do number entry or use excel at all, then a numpad makes it easier
@@chickenpotipie i hate the numpad tho coz its reversed i prefer the numbers at the top so much more
How
@@Natyan-VR
Reversed compared to... phones? If you're doing data-entry, using excel for any length of time, etc., it's not a problem, haha! I tend to go for the numpad almost any time I'm inputting numbers since it's one-handed and requires very little movement, comparatively speaking.
Honestly, though, it's all about what you're used to. I've had numpads all I life, so I'm used to them. If you're not used to them and don't do anything that they would make easier (like data entry), they might seem superfluous.
Tell Josh I loved him as Magneto.
Keycap video would be much appreciated! I found the OEM keycaps with Keychron were NOT my cup of tea, and switching to a more traditional cherry profile made the typing MUCH more enjoyable. However, some of the cheaper vendors on amazon are hit or miss on quality and there was a serious difference in sound even in caps that were advertised similarly (cherry profile, double shot PBT)
I have a Keychron Cherry Profile Double - Shot PBT Keycaps - Camel. The full set of 219 keycaps is awesome but out of stock in that particular colour. I will be getting another one - the Grey, White, and Blue soon. 😁
@@tca83hey did you get it? And what is the price?
What an amazingly GREAT VIDEO!!! So much fun and so well done! I watched every second. Thanks Josh and you too Hipyo and Nola. As a group, you guys really made this the most fun I've had on this channel.
I just built my Kitsune Zoom 75!!!! I love it so much and sounds amazing! I didnt even tune the stock stabs, just lubed them and they sound great! Definitely the best starter kit!
Someone who respect numpad.....numpad gang less go
Fullsize means more to love
The production on this one is top notch I love the dialog
Another great video Hipyo. Few months back I got motivated to get some better keybaord as well (mechanical this time) . I had to get used to no numpad, but currently running 2x CIDOO AMB084 (the knob is great). First in black color with changed AKKO Silver prelubed switches for Home use (gaming, YT and stuff) and loving it. The second one in white I got for the Office (not to make other peaople crazy with clicky clacky sounds XD) with Gamakay Pegasus silent switches swap . And silent they are. Both are BT/Wireless 2.4GHz and wired compatible a great thing to have. They can run around 10 days on battery life with RGB off. it was something like 250$ for both (original target was 1 keyboard for 100$) yet I'm very happy I did. Thanks for the inspiration and guides from your vids.
I think those final statements nail this hobby... it makes you want to type. The Nola kitty in the box was great as well, nice addition!
I like how he said "I love this guy!! I mean he's having fun!!! :O :O :O"
ty for the heart hipyo :)
the thing that makes numpad important to me is not so much the numbers but the enter and the four function keys i use those a lot. still that keyboard looks sick!
This is me leaving a comment pushing for the 'keycap profile' video. Keep up the great work man!
Josh looks like a movie star, fr
He really is
@@HipyoTechlike he looks like one or he is a actor
I literally screamed joyfully when he unboxed Nola and she meowed.
Still pleased with my QK100 but glad to see more full size boards coming out
What a wholesome and informative video 😅 I’ve been looking into building my own for work and this helped me feel less anxious about it! Thanks Hipyo, Josh, and Nola! 🥰
Probably one of my favorite HipyoTech videos so far. I really like the ones where you have your friends pick out their layout/parts and build!
I live in Seattle as well, BTW… I’ll be over to your place for my keyboard soon. 😉
oh god
@@HipyoTech run
I just built a Zoom 75 that's almost completely silent for work, and I'm going to get in on the Zoom 98 GB so I can build one for home. I really hate the whole GB model, but Meletrix has been so consistent about everything and they are so good about consistently updating and then delivering on time. Also, the Zoom 75 is easily the best keyboard I've ever built; I love how sturdy it is and the little screen on it is so helpful for remembering application commands because it has a notepad function; it's really cut down on the amount I have to Google.
can I get your silent build, please? wanna try with the zoom98
@@Cheffamily Sure!
I used Haimu Heartbeat switches with a POM plate. The Haimu come pre-lubed, but only very lightly with a bit of 105g0, so they are a bit scratchy because of the POM stems, so I very lightly hand-lubed them with Krytox 205g0. There is no need to lube the housing; just lube the stems themselves, including the outside of the stem "brackets" to eliminate the scratch.
For stabs I used Owlab V2 Owlstabs. I lightly lubed the housing with Krytox 205g0 but applied a VERY generous amount of dielectric grease to the wires. The Owlstabs are expensive ($25 for the kit!) but they were TOTALLY worth it. Easily the best stabs I've ever used, and I hope to be able to get my hands on the POM-based V3 versions by the time the 98 arrives.
I used the stock spring that came with the Haimu Heartbeats, but fair warning: they are heavy (62g). I like heavy springs, but I wouldn't blame you if you went lighter. I hand-lubed the springs generously with a cheap, off-brand 205g0 / 105g0 mix grease, but if you want to save time you can use 105g0 and bag-lube them or buy lighter pre-lubed springs. All you are looking to do is eliminate the spring "ping".
I didn't use switch films; it's just not necessary with the Heartbeats. They are really well-made switches as-is.
After that, I just used ALL the foam that came with the keyboard. I didn't need to tape mod it or put latex into the bottom of the case because the Meletrix shells ALREADY have so much material that they absorb noise. Thanks to taking the time to hand-lube, the keyboard is basically silent, with the exception of the spacebar that makes a very quiet "thock". I've gotten no complaints, but I may tape in some foam to the spacebar just to get really quiet.
The feel of the Heartbeats is quite soft. They aren't "mushy" like most silent switches, but they are really ridiculous smooth and they don't have a noticeable "bottom out" with the heavy springs due to how they are designed. They are actually really unique and interesting switches, but you may want to try them out before committing to a build because they aren't for everyone. My wife likened the experience to typing on soft memory foam. I love it because I can type all day without my fingers hurting, which was a problem with the tactile switches on my last keyboard.
You can use whatever keycaps you want as long as they are double-shot PCB, as the thicker material dampens sound. I used the XVX shine-through, side-print, all-black keycaps (the ones with the wave pattern are low-profile) because I work in a dark space and having shine-through legends is helpful to me. I do like the "stealth" look of the black SE with black-top keycaps for a work environment, and I don't want anything flashy or loud on a work desk. I'm also a fan of the $25 price tag for a set of 136 keycaps!
I hope that helps. I'll answer any questions you may have. I'll be building two Zoom 98s, but I haven't settled on the switches yet.
@@Josh-99 this is great. I've bought the Heartbeat already! May try typing for a few days to see if i want to go for 35g springs. Thanks for the lubing tips.
This is so amazing!!! Love your videos Hipyo ❤ this is so interactive fun and easy to watch!! Thanks for the knowledge. I salute you from Mexico
Now that's what I call thock!!!
I got the Keychron Q1, after lots and lots of reviews from Hipyo and some others. Thanks a lot for all this work Hipyo! ❤
There may have been some brands that might offer more for less, but Keychron has an excellent model range and availability in comparison.
For example, I need a keyboard with Nordic ISO layout - that already narrows things down a whole lot. Then I needed it to be in stock, relatively affordable, and to not need much modding.
I found a blue Q1 v2 knobless barebone at -50%. With some affordable end Gateron Pro Yellows and a Keychron blue and white PBT set, the total came to around 150€ including taxes and delivery.
All I did to it was the "force break mod", and I'm very happy with the results. Really pleasurable to type on. I do miss my numpad, but my forearms really like the position more for both typing and gaming.
More than the numpad I actually miss shine through keycaps. The Keychron ones aren't, but on the other hand they are lightyears ahead in quality from the previous set I had. That was a Corsair double shot PBT set which is shine through but just not as nice to use or look at.
That's the next thing I'll try to look at. Or maybe like a tiny keyboard light 😂
1. guy: Get a wireless numpad like epomaker ek21
2. guy: get some nice pudding keycaps.
@@ialwi4262Same guy both times! 😂 But thanks!
If I find I really need the numpad I'll look into it. It's not an actual need - as in, I don't do lots of calculations or spreadsheets - it's more that I'm so used to it that my fingers just look for it instinctively. I'm sure that will go away in time 😊
Pudding caps have the problem that you still can't read the actual legend on the key. I do touch type, but I also do live in Finland where it's dark as heck during the winter - so I do find myself needing a light every time I want to find some more rarely used keys.
@@AleksiJoensuu oh true 😅 didnt know it was an issue for the nordic layout regarding the readability of the keys caption. For US Ansi and standard ISO it should be fine tho
@@ialwi4262 Well I mean - the pudding part is just the lower part of the keys letting light through, but the legends are printed on top so it doesn't really help :)
Very educational and entertaining. 18 mins of my life well spent!
i love how thorough this tutorial is, i feel like this way its so helpful as if you actually teach us how to build one! but i cant help but ask what is that beautiful lilac and white keyboard 😭it sounds SO nice! and lilac my favorite color 🥺
All this video teached me was: you don't need a need keyboard. Sounds like way to much work and money and if you want a keypad u dont have that many to choose from anyway...
Love the Zoom series!
Love these videos with your friends. New here but I love the energy and also the knowledge on custom keyboards. I am from Peru and I am used to ES-ISO keyboards which almost 99.99% of custom keyboards don't have, but I just found out the Keychron K10 Pro has a ES-ISO Layout and it's also 100% (I am a bookkeeper/accountant, but also gamer - so numpad is a must). I would love to see any suggestions of keycaps on ES-ISO. I have struggled for years to find some cool ones. Everything is just Japanese or English keycaps :( A little bit of help please
It was an amazing video, and I don't think I could have done that within a 2-hour time frame. Cheers!
Helping a friend build his own custom keyboard...that was really thockful of you Hypio.
YOU GOT ONE!!!! Yessss gonna watch this when I get home
them cuts scenes were smooth af. nice work dude
so my last keyboard died thought about building one but it was really daunting. ended up going with the scope ii 96 it's decent. getting used to the smaller layout has been an adjustment. might just go with a zoom 98 when I do decide to make a custom.
I just jumped down the rabbit hole of keyboards. This was the perfect video for me.
Hey Hipyo, Keychron K4 Pro and V5 (my keyboard, yes I NEED a numpad, heil the numpad) are 96% layouts as well. Just so you know. Love your content, it's perfect.. and Nola too
Man, that "thocky" sound is so amazing. Now i want one of these keyboards
My work keyboard is a stock special edition purple Keychron Q6 for exactly the reason you mentioned: I was married to the idea of a numpad and it was one of the best pre-built options when I was looking a year ago.
It's been great! Sounds great to me. Not too loud for others. Bonus: No one will be running off with it because they're usually too shocked it weighs roughly the same as a blue whale. 😂
I've been itching to update the keycaps now that it's been a while. I got a second keyboard for my home setup recently and it sounds sooooo satisfying and I don’t want to ruin that effect but there are so many fun options out there it almost seems wrong NOT to update anything...
I've been using a cm storm quickfire tk daily since like 2014. It's my first and only mechanical keyboard and I still love it to bits. This video definitely makes me want to try building another though. I don't know the exact switches, but they are blue in color. I'd want to hunt down some louder ones though or at least nothing quieter. I find the clacks make it easier for me to "get in the zone" and not focus on everything going on around me.
I got the Zoom65 EE, it's only a "beginner" keyboard if you have a decent sized budget, the regular Zoom65 is a much better beginner option but idk if they still drop those anymore, I got the switches for free but even then my final build cost would be around $250-300, but I got nice keycaps so if you get budget switches and keycaps you should be able to get a nice build around that price
Just came across your channel trying to learn about custom keyboards. Glad I did. I've been using the same Steelseries Shift keyboard for 15-20 years and never gave upgrading my keyboard much thought until I spilled a beer on it a a few days ago and it started acting wonky. When I took it apart to clean it for the first time ever I realized how crude and outdated it is. I ordered a Logitech K845ch full size wired keyboard with cherry blue switches that arrives Sunday to replace my dinosaur keyboard as a starting point. It's the first mechanical keyboard I've ever bought. Now I'm considering building a custom keyboard and the Zoom 98 is the one I'm most interested in at the moment. It's one of the few full size custom keyboards I have found and the price isn't horrible considering how much I have spent on the gaming PC I built and my monitors. Thanks for the video. Very impressed with your content. Subscribed. (Typed on my dinosaur keyboard) 🙂
Man, I want free keyboard too. Kidding aside, using a full layout is amazing. Although you might feel an extra stuffyness, but it is better than having 65% with a numpad (imo). Nice build!!
The real move was to make a standalone numpad, so you can tilt it if you prefer or even use your left hand when you want to use your mouse with your right. Also I personally love the standalone numpad look.
Left hand numpad was a game changer for me after i made the silly mistake of going TKL, not realizing how insanely important numpad was in my 3d modelling workflow (silly mistake! only used it daily for 3 years!).
But if you're an epic gamer, youre already used to using your left hand together with your mouse (provided youre.. right handed), took no time to speed up my process after I got a standalone numpad!
BUY NOW! ONLY 99.99! (this message was not sponsored by standalone numpads, unless..)
yes I think this is going to be my move as well
unless you are left handed
@@michaelbrown8441 It should apply even more to left handed people if you think about it, theres almost no keyboard in existence with a keypad on the left. A module keypad would allow you to place it to the left, two birds with one stone!
@@Skyflairl2pkeychron q12 is the answer
I recently made my first custom keyboard, the neo65. It was a lot of fun!! I was not very good at lining the stabilizers though! I do think it was better than the unlubed ones though
Great content as always @HipyoTech. You’re the reason I tried many MANY wild stuff in my mods lol. Question: where do you shop for PBT SA profile keycaps? I need some for a build I’m working on but can’t find them anywhere. Drop, Etsy, deskhero, Amazon,… can’t find any.
Leobog Ice Soul is ny favorite switch. Get it with a nicely weighted key and a well dampened case.
Best Nola content in this one. This might be the direction I go for a work board, I also sadly need a numpad for the dayjob.
Can you share the build of the third keyboard during the switch test? the red one with the gray keycaps i love how it looks and would like to make one like that. Loved the video!
At the end of November I built my first keyboard. I went the 'budget' route because it was Black Friday and there were deals to be had. Now I have to 'fully mod' my prebuilt. Just because I can and I want both boards to have the same type key caps.
I need a numpad for work too so I always go for 96% layout to save space. It's a lot better than the full size for me.
(edited) Josh is such a cool guest, great addition to this video.
Great video,
I'm thinking about starting to nerd into this as well. What would you have chosen as starting keyboard if TKL would have been the preferred layout and I'd like to apply DE ISO? But aiming for the same Thock as Josh?
Thanks a lot
Can you make an comparison for silent mechanical keyboards?
Preferably on a budget, for example for use in the office. And advice when it comes to switches and budget options that are build.
I'm watching this after modding a Keychron V5 for my dad's birthday. About to make one for myself as well.
Your thoughts on k2 pro? Going to use it for productivity. Will mod it. Planning to use brown switch, wouldn't want it to be so noisy. Concerns are, need wireless, and 75% layout, knob isn't necessary
Great zoom98 content.
What are your thoughts on Keychron’s Q1 HE with the magnetic switches? Seems rather interesting. Do you think you’ll make a video on it when it releases?
Great video.
Please review the Keychron Q1 HE as soon as it comes out. Need to know how it competes with Wooting.
So happy you put Morandi on this board. This is what I was looking for. I still want to see someone use oil kings in this board. Sounds amazing
I find Morandis themselves to be too wobbly, so I decided to frankenswitch them with my Flamingos, taking advantage of the "dust-proof" design of the stem. It's a tad bit clackier since the Flamingo stem is made of a harder material than the Morandi stem, but the reduced touch-wobble/rattle is more than worth the trade-off to me.
You know it’s a good day when hipyo posts
why is this hands down one of the BEST sounding keyboards i've heard???? hoooly
numpad is life, it was a key factor to me when i was looking for a cheap mechanical keyboard.
I do not get the hate for the numpad. you could remove the whole top row of numbers and keep the numpad. its so useful
I love your videos so much
This was a great & fun video!
Josh is also dreamy 🤷🏻♂️
Now that deserves a subscriber. 😄
Hey hipyo! How good is electrocapacative ?
Numpad for the win. Can't go without em on my glorious 96/98% keyboards.
bro saying "oh I sure did" like Morty 5:00
Hey great video really makes me wane buy 1 for my wife. but I'm kinda new to this, have been trying to order a complete keyboard without success. Do i have to perches every part alone and build?
I love these videos
can you do a review on the chon chow keyboard and how to mod it?
It’s a good day when hipyo posts c:
This josh guy is majestic. I'm in love
Maybe you can help me out. I have been both interested in fixing my current keyboard, and either getting a new one to turn this into a backup or do my first build. I am currently using a Steelseries Apex 7 with MX Blues(I like my clicky switches and full sized boards) but after a cat triggered spill 13 of my switches RGB had some of their lights burn out(namely the blue portion) and also some now don't read inputs half the time. What keyboard or custom build would you recommend? My buddy is sending me some switches to resolder onto this board in the mean time.
Great vid papa hipyo :)
After months of on-and-off research going into my first mechanical keyboard (after using a membrane for 7 years), I tried to get this one. Thing is, shipping to germany would have cost me 140$ for some reason, bringing the total cost to about 440$, which was way over budget. I finally settled on a Monsgeek M5, which I've had for a few days now. It'd definitely a big improvement over my old keyboard and overall, i think it was worth the ca. 200$ i spent.
I bought a zoom 75 yesterday and the shipping to Italy was 70 eur. It's expensive because of the weight, but still... I understand how it may throw you out of budget in the blink of an eye.
Damn guess i had a real good Deal, bought a rainy 75 for 89€ + 20€ Shipping (also to Germany) today
@@jawline7221 Meletrix ships from China. Where does the rainy get shipped from?
@@jack_2612 don't actually know, just thought I'd sounded amazing and bought It the second you could
I'm actually building my first keyboard here shortly and honestly as a programmer I use my numpad a lot but I couldn't find a decent option so I want with an 85% keyboard and I might get a separate one if I find out that I still need it
numpad is for me because i use the right enter all the time while my hand is on the mouse, it's basically just having an enter button on your mouse.
Strix Scope II 96 wireless maybe his ideal keyboard, thocky + numpad
Any keyboard switches that sound similar to the HHKB? I appreciate any recommendations, and yes I've researched but non yield decent enough results.
I’ll buy one when they make a southpaw version. Right now im using the keychron q1 pro plus a everglide sk21 aluminum numpad
Nice vid mate
Yeah, pls make a keycap video D: and with a sound test.. and wich keycaps make a deeper, or a.. hollow sound.. a tactile sound !
Would love to se you find a good ISO keyboard :) thats our standard here in sweden so the ansi keyboards are not really my thing.
But yeah show some iso keyboards that thock :D
What keyboard is the red one at 16:04? I am looking for a TKL that has that type of curve where the F row is way up compared with the other rows.
Nice video, I am trying to decide if I should get the ZOOM TKL ESSENTIAL EDITION. Curently I have a Anne Pro II at home but I need a TKL for the office.
Edit:
Now that I watched the keyboard with the keycaps mounted seems like what I am looking ..... hmmm .... doest the TKL has the same look?
Can you review or do a build with the ttc tiger Switches
I'm in the process of building a new keyboard, though this one I think might not work too well. Despite that, I'm moving forward, because it'll be the first handwired split keyboard I've ever done.
That said, if I end up not using it, I'm throwing Kailh Owl White so it'll be the clackiest meme keyboard ever.
HIPYO I NEED A FEKER MATCHA REVIEW. one of the most underrated budget switches that use should try.
love you hipyo 😊
can u review the royale kludge typewriter keyboard pls?
What stabs did you use for this? I’m looking for some pre lubed ones
I like those zoom 98 keyboards, where can I get one?
Should I get barebones Zoom98 or Zoom75 + the Zoompad?
by anychance do you think you would be able to do a review on the altcustoms t69 pro
Hi there,
What's the keyboard at the far right (grey and blue keycaps) around 5:14?
Many thanks!!
Hey hipyo, i hope everything's going well. I need your help. I don't know if you own the apex pro mini keyboard but I've been researching for the past 4 days as to why the keyboard is spamming random letters and i still haven't found a solution. I believe that with all of your knowledge you know more than the company themselves. Godbless you and keep up the amazing content.🙏❤️
Ok, I know this video is about keyboards, but man I didn't expect the eye candy
Lol I bought a cheap wireless numpad for work purposes. Speaking on work purposes, I have one of those cheap Redragon K552 boards with tactile switches in it and I'm finding the more I get used to mechanical boards that it sounds HORRID. So much ping. I did put some paper towels in the base and that has helped to dampen the sound a bit but I'm wondering what I can do about the ping. Is that normally a switch thing? If so, would lubing the switches help to solve that or do I need to buy some new ones.
quick question, any way to mod the steel series apex pro? sounds way too clacky and its a hard keybaord to mess with. any tips, please and thank you. (it has rapid trigger so i dont wanna buy another one)
Don’t diss the numpad! As a financial analyst, I use it as much, if not more, than the rest of the keyboard!
That is thock man!