Comparing NBC Air Filtration Systems For Your Bomb Shelter
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- čas přidán 23. 02. 2022
- Ron shows you the differences between all the NBC Air Filtration Systems that are available in the United States. The differences will be disappointing to many people who already have bomb shelters.
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I do maintenance work on a underground mining refuge chambers that have filters and CO/CO2 scrubbers. The blower motor actually doesnt look too dissimilar to these, but that said I've only ever had to change 1 out, and the problem had been misdiagnosed, the motor was actually fine but the circuit board controlling it failed. I was surprised when I changed it because the replacement motor came from a boat supplier and was actually a 12VDC bilge pump motor, even though in the refuge chambers its only supplied from a 5VDC power source. I queried why, turns out engineers had done calculations and that it was sized precisely for what was required in air changeover if there were 20 people average people inside to keep the CO2 level at 0.5%, no more no less.
Just stuff that needs to be considered with these things, you put a big beefy motor in, thats fine but if your pulling 500% more volume of air through your filters, they will clog up and need changing 500% faster. Also you might be running off limited emergency power/auxilliary batteries, in that case do you want the blower motor to be bigger than what you actually need using more power?
🙏 Praying for you still. I pray things are going in the right direction for you my friend.
Well, he is doing the right things - like getting a "good" health insurance.
I really really am considering making an air filter here in the US. It seems to me, that there is a market and desire for well made American products.
Ron I am very surprised that people can actually get away with selling the cheap air systems without being sued and put out of business!
At least you take a bit of pride within your products and company.
Again good video and have fun mate!
Yes it's sad people have that in their shelter and don't know it
EVERYBODY NEED A SHELTER NOW💯
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Those cheap ones can’t draw air through the filters, they just recirculate the existing air. I doubt you could measure any air coming out of a 40 foot exhaust pipe. These filter systems would just kill people
Good to see u again, how are u feeling brother? Hope all is going well with you and family. Your in all our prayers 🙏. Stay strong 💪 and safe. God bless!
Good job Ron
Congratulations for the video. You show your respect for the people's life. God bless you.
Thanks for taking my call Ron. Hope you are doing well.
Thank you, Ron! Great information!
God bless you brother thank you for what you do !!!!
Thank you for this, I was JUST looking for something like this!!
Love to see your order books lately!!
Good on you Ron 😁
Fantastic info! As soon as I win Publisher's Clearing House, I'll give you a call!..
Thank you for the information Ron.
Your welcome 😊
Great video. I feel the gentleman's lisp actually adds to the videos
I’ve been praying for you brother
Hey i just started the purchase f some land in south WV and its basically a small mountain and 1/2 the valley on one side. The lower area has an old cave system in it that was mined for minerals and precious stones for a decade or so. There are three different caves with the largest in the middle and two smaller caves which are still pretty large them selves on either side of the main. The plan is to have the large one for a work shop vehicle and the bomb shelter it self. Then the larger of the two smaller one was connected to the main by the old miners that worked it. The one that is connected will be part hospital and part storage for all food and medical supplies as well as a decontamination area and clean room. Since i had access t actual hospital quality items i will have a pretty awesome one with a doctor and surgical dentist(what ever they are called) for staff. I also have two daughters that work in the medical field as one works in a lab and the others as a medical assistant at a local hospital. Then we have about 5 family that are either retired or have been in the military or are active military so security is covered. The last cave which i will construct a safe connection from the main to it as well so all three caves connect. Since the main has a spring at the bottom of it at the deepest part of the cave water wont be an issue. But the last cave is a big enough cave to have the armory and munitions storage along with sleeping quarters and kitchen and bathroom facilities. There is also a large area that could be used for a hydro or standard grow area for food. I have had grow lights for years in storage and will have a chance to use them. If there a company that you can give me contacts for so i can see how i what i would need and the kind of system i would need to supply air for the whole complex? Since with minimal work inside of the caves and most of my cost and work ,will be involved in covering the entrance ways for all three and separating all three areas from each other with air tight entrances. Compartmentalize it like a submarine almost? So that if one area fails you can retreat to another and not all is lost. Always good to have plan "B" and "C" since there is three common areas. If i were to guess i would probably need three of your set ups ,one for each area. All independent of each other. So once again backup to the backup of the bacup....heheThe caves are so old and have been so completely explored the entire cave system is air tight so this is perfect for a nutjob like me to prep for my family. LOL I would also like the largest storm shelter i can get put in the ground under the home/cabin we are going to build that will be a emergency exit or entrance to the complex as the building sight is just out of sight of the caves yet close enough too it that it would be easy to do. So it would be a huge storm shelter that could be entered as a safe room to stat with and if there is a reason to flee to the main bunker one of your escape hatches will be in the rear with the door hidden in some way? It al came to me in a dream! I just need to get the dang land deal done to get a move on it before all hell breaks loose with Russia and China!!! I would be about 100yrds of tunnel from the home site to the caves. Which the entrance t the caves will come up just outside of the main cave. That way if the people we would be running from may have the resources and time to search for a way in they could find the tunnel and have access to the door of the bunker tunnel. So if it dosnt go all the way into the main bunker they cant possibly use it to gain entrance to our bunker. Then of course i have an Engineer looking for the best place for us to build an escape tunnel from all three caves that will join together to lead people out of the main bunker and come out on top , of the mountain or just about 100feet down from the top of it on the opposite side? I have not decided that part yet? Well for now all i need is time to speed up so the full paperwork can go threw and i can start actually working the land? Could take up to 30days :>/ One way or the other i will need at least a 10person bomb shelter. Once i get some land if this deal falls threw as well? Both times i started and they balked! ??? Its not been easy finding just the right parcel of land we want?! :>( thanks great video
Thank you for posting these videos.
I do it to protect you
Thanks Ron. (JF)
Why won't you answer anyone's question about how many hours of continuous use the filter will last? Please just answer how many hours of use a filter has before needing to be serviced and/or replaced.
I learned a lot. Thanks for the info.
informative video. thanks for all you do
Nice job on air filters I would take the big one. 642
Wow! Wow! Wow! Thank you!
Those sureflow dc fans are great...for pushing a bit of air in your open boat bilge. (What I have seen them used for on some boats here in the UK)It will work as a low power extraction fan but it is no way powerful enough to pull air through pipes and filters to supply a bunker. Maybe a storm shelter, but not an NBC bunker!
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I’ve been asking for this video for awhile. Good to know you listen, or maybe it’s a coincidence since there are many unanswered questions.
What are the space/occupancy limits of your Swiss and Israeli air filter systems?
How often does the filter need to run to keep good air in the bunker if my plan is to not visit it for months at a time or maintain power onsite?
If the bunker is occupied does the filter need to run continuously or is there a recommended duration per hour per guest?
If someone were trying to smoke you out with carbon monoxide or a wildfire burns up the local oxygen, how long can you stay buttoned down with no intake?
As carbon can be damaged by humidity, do you recommend keeping the filter sealed until needed, and rely on a dust filter for refreshing the bunker in normal environments?
Could this air system be incorporated into an
What is the difference between a NBC air filter and common home ventilation systems where the resident needs protection from smog, smoke, odors and allergens?
God Bless you and your for staff
Love the video thanks for the info I hope you are doing well
What a great educational video love it
Sad that "Made in USA" which used to be the world standard of quality is now crap in thousands and thousands of products.
@Debs not sure it's always intentional to rip the customer off but when you go too far maximizing profit or lose either pride in your product and respect for your customer base the product cheapens. They think "so what if we lose some of our customers, there's plenty more who don't know better and will still buy"
I've worked in 17 other countries and seen some bad shit (ex: in Nicaragua, Venezuela or Columbia) where there was epidemic graft and corruption and life is cheap.... It's better here in the US (which is why millions of people around the world want to come here!) and with all our flaws we're still trying to 'be better'.
Good info , life saving . The Israel requirements. Hard times
Right on! 👍
Ron, that Rising S fan is used to vent BOAT BILGES! I owned one of those fans. They have got to be kidding
The big question is how would you service it and find parts in an unfortunate nuclear event, Its not like you could call some one for service
I’m still confused on WHERE, the filter air particles are inside the bunker. Are there trapped, radioactive particles trapped inside my bunker? In that giant filter sitting in the corner? Just curious. I can see having a separate room for incoming air, but I still have a radiological catastrophe awaiting me as I change the filter. Thank you Ron for all you do, love the updates!!
How long does the air last inside a bunker? from my understanding understanding last a while having said that you have a strong point on what you say
gracias bro, saludos desde argentina.
When the times comes for me to build one do you walk through with your customers all the best options to put in the bunker and why I want one I can live in for an infinite amount of time
How does your filter stop the particles from radiation radiation after the trapped in the tin can
Does the internal filter system (carbon, filters, etc) need to be replaced periodically?
I am curious how long they last and if it would be prudent to have backup filters and carbon for whichever system is chosen for a bunker.
I tend to lean toward double redundancy.😊
How many watts does your fallout shelter air filter use per hour
what is the power consumption of the vf150? is it 120v 180watts? or is it 240v?
Can this filter out nuclear radiation and how long will this filtration system last?
Can buy carbon filters for indoor grow house, may not filter radioactive particles, but work for VOC's. Like ww2 gas mask use.
Every day the world proves your on the right track!!
Hypothetical question. If I’m in my bunker and there’s a fire above me, will the air system work? And also will my bunker get hot?
I'm sure the price is out of my league, but have enjoyed all your videos. Just wondering
how big are the shelters in Israel? Kudos to all your staff.
Do you really want a filter in your shelter? Trapping all the radiated particles it suction. radiation go right through the metal.
Looking for a good filter, get the filter they use on the marijuana plants
do you guys install worldwide
How does it work manually if the power goes out?
And all of these are put inside the bunker right next to you. Meaning the radioactive dust will be sitting right next to you with basically no protection.
What are you talking about???
@@everythingluxury7 the filter filters the dust with radioactive particles out of the air. Meaning the filter cathches all of the radiation that you are trying so hard to filter out.
This is a whole lot better than breathing it in. But you still have a barrel of radioactive dust sitting right next to you without anything to block it.
For this reason you will often see seperate rooms for the filters with thick concrete walls and dirt between the filters and living areas.
@@kaptein1247that's interesting, are there any alternatives?
@@nar2cc Like I said, isolate the filter. Problem is this will make the shelter a lot more expensive and complicated.
When you can’t breathe nothing else matters don’t matter where your at or what you have in preps !
hi
where can we buy airfiltration sir im your follower im from philippines
So for those of us who don't have 5 to 10 thousands to spend on one of these filtration systems nor the 10s of thousands for the professional bunkers we should not even try to make a makeshift setup and just lay down on the ground and wait to die?
Do you have Air filter good for 150 or 200 persons inside na concrete bunker?and how much Sir rom?thanks from Philippines
Sir how can i order nbc air filtration system since im in the philippines?is it possible?
I know in usa they make big anything, but in this case the "fan" I'm surprised, like more Chinese trend, u the best 👌
how do these run with no electricity?
Make one from temet filter nbc shelter
Polish FASER company is still making military grade filters for shelters!
Very interesting vid. Perhaps a more relaxed delivery style would make it even better.
I've got a lunor system I'm trying to wire but the electrical name plate is calling for 3x400v 50hz. What's the best way to convert 240v 60hz standard US?
Where did you buy it at ?
@@AtlasSurvivalShelters I didn't purchase it, I'm just the electrician installing looking for some guidance
It was operational (in the us ) before they moved it to a new location so all I really have for info is the nameplate unfortunately
People need to do their homework, it's up to each person to make an informed decision, and "The Other Bunker builders" are only in it for the money and not the safety of their customers
How much is the air system that would work for five people, and what's the cost of a blast door
$8800
I noticed you did NOT open up your air units to show us their fans? Not really a fair comparison. I will say that based on airflow the Swiss and Israel units are most likely metal fans with stronger and more durable motors but until you show us, we really do not know? Like showing us a Briggs & Stratton 100CC engine compared to a Ferrari car with NO look at the engine. I do agree that those 2 plastic units are junk and I would not risk my life using them.
Can send it to Malaysia?
How often does carbon need replaced?
I'd change the carbon after each disaster.
@@warrensteel9954 .. or at least after each nuclear war!
Castellex AIR350 NBC
What is best for if I want to put lots of 27 small animals in it 😅
We all might need bunkers soon .....
Does your bunker act as a faraday cage against EMP.
Does anyone know how long this filtration system will last under continuous use?
Chemical 30 days smoke 30 days radiation 30 hours
If you’re lucky
CAN YOU GIVE US SOME PRICES ON THEM ???
LOL looks like a PC Computer fan! I've got more air and fans blowing through my PC than the Safe cell or other one... You get a bigger fan in a home ventilation system!
Fallout shelter should be mandatory in America
What about 'freedom'?
@@davidhuett3579 depends, wearing a seatbelt is mandatory. Plus houses have to be built to code according to state and county regulations. I'm just suggesting new construction should have it mandatory. Older houses of course should be grandfathered.
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Aaaaand all of this depends on electricity that you will not have in a war?
You can have a generator system or Battery Bank and inverter to supply the power, but then you run into another problem initially ... what if its a nuclear strike ?
The EMP will knock out the electronics in the inverter and batteries .. if they have internal BMS .. then there will be no power at all.
The only way around this is to have the power generation system fully enclosed in a metal enclosure (farraday cage) and made entirely EMP proof!!
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My heater fan in my car is 3 times the size of fan then those cheap filters fans.
Thank you for this video.
Still can’t afford to live. Will keep searching for someone who can help me build one myself. Anyone reading my post with links appreciate a tag.
I made my own air system with a electric turbo
Running the electric motor off a 12v car battery 🔋 that I have connected to my solar system
Have a video?
@@dirtridr not yet but I can make one
All that money they want for these filters, if you sit down and think about it you could build it with a Shop-Vac.
I wouldn't use that tiny motor for my grow tent definitely not in something to live in
To me, as good as the Swiss and Israeli filtration units are, the 'typical' installations that I've seen .. don't seem to make sense.
As can be seen in the video, fresh air comes in through an intake duct .. into a pump (electric/crank handle driven) before being output to the inside of ones protective shelter.
In the case of a 'nuclear' detonation .. the filter canister is inserted into the circuit (as can be seen with the flexible hoses) and this carbon filled canister filters out 99.99% of the irradiated particles. Great!!
This does however, leave one further issue of 'vital' importance .... the now 'radioactive particle catching canister' is INSIDE your protective shelter .. and the radiation being emitted is NOT going to be stopped by a thin piece of sheet metal.
It seems to make much more sense to me, to have the 'canister' located on the outside of the 'protective' wall .. probably in its own heavy concrete enclosure, so that the filtered outlet can now pass through the main wall without compromising its shielding effectiveness. (ie. a 6" hole in the wall where the duct comes in)
Obviously, the pump/hand crank needs to be located safely inside the main protective shelter area. (bunker)
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Normally I would say if the product were made in a western country vs china then the western country would be a better made product because we cannot compete with price but can on quality. But there is some Rising S products in this video so my observation is mute here.
You must no't make a mistake with this
I've never wanted one of your shelters more than I do now. And I'm in Philly ! I can't imagine what citizens in Ukraine are going through right now and I hope I never have to find out. And it could be much worse. 💔😢😠🤬. 🕊️🙏💟
Britain is becoming swizz they air pressure test most new buildings it's for heat control and efficiency that ironically needs an exhaust system. Israel have different requirements
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That tiny fan RS is using for their system is pathetic. I think those are supposed to be for exhaust blowers or stove vents.
It's a marine fan
Could sell them to the Ukraine now
Great but u don’t talk about the cost at all there is this assumption that price is no object that is not realistic
Interesting timing....
Looming WW3
Your "review" seems very biased. You can't say you want to show difference.
Yet, you only show the one you call junkie / sub standard.
Necer got to see a break down of the systems which you like or recommend.
Not even showing the air flow created by the more expensive models seems bad when trying to compare.
I do not doubt your claims are accurate, yet still can lead to questions