Is this Man City side the best ever Premier League team? | The Football Show
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The Football Show panel react to Manchester City's 2-0 victory at Tottenham last night and discuss whether the title race is over.
They also debate whether this current Manchester City team would be the greatest Premier League side of all time.
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So City won 9200 out of 10000 simulations? They are like Thanos
Pep has “lost” the league 3 times in his career. Real Madrid 2012, 100 points 32 wins. Chelsea 2017, 93 points and 30 wins. Liverpool 2020 99 points and 32 wins. That’s the level you need to reach to beat a Pep team
97 points on average
@@DC-zi6se Rubbish Arsenal didn’t need 97 points this season
@@alanchamberlain9902 did I say they did?
A decade of sportswashing and inflated sponsorships set the foundations
@@mymemories925stink
They are by far the most dominant. Not even Fergie, Wenger or Mourinho at their peak could achieve what Pep has done. He is the greatest of all time. I say this as a Chelsea fan, not obscured by bias.
The premier leauge is weak stop glazing
2018/19 season was the one which GOATed this City team.
The greatest title race in English football history!
17-20 ManCity was the best PL team.
There was more competition do Fergie at one stage was up against peak Wenger who went invincible in 04, then Mourinho came and his Chelsea team won in 05 with 95 points and only conceded 15. That was 3 world class teams back then, no one is putting it up to City, Arsenal are average, only Klopp's Liverpool at their best put it up to City and beat them. Most teams in England can't defend, and try to play our vs City, look at how Brighton played against City, played into their hands.
@@alanchamberlain9902 amennnnnnnnn someone who knows football
They said Pep will be found out after first season.
Next, after winning the first title, they said Pep will not be able to retain it.
After retaining the title, they said they won't be able to do a hatrick of titles.
Now, looks like even getting four in a row will not be enough for these media people to consider them the BESTEST PL team ever.
He manages man city, he can’t possibly fail
@@fascinatinglist9654 So why did the managers before him fail?? Same owners!
@@fascinatinglist9654are you seriously underplaying possible 6 out 7 last titles with 4 in a row 💀 SAF with the "greatest" pl team never did it in 26 years 13 titles. Pep has 6 out 7 😭.
Ryan Giggs played 24 years in the Prem with Man U... That’s just how impressive KDB assist stat is
This team has been the greatest team since the 98 point season.
That season proved everything.
You’re forgetting the 100 points the season before!!!
@@imrans2784 That was impressive. But that 98 point season was a testament to this team's mental strength more than anything. That unbelievable Liverpool 97 point team chased them like a phantom but City still somehow managed to come away with the title. Whereas in the 100 point season they had virtually no real competition.
Man city are the best team in premier leagud history. All though this current man city team are not as good as the 17/18 18/19 team imo.
@@colingeddes2172 maybe.
@colingeddes2172 Nah, I think they definitely are, it's just that you now have more teams that are better than they were before
Why is nobody mentioning Everton? Always West Ham this, West Ham that. City have done the Treble, unprecedented Domestic Treble and up for an unprecedented 4 in a row and up for a double double! Simply the best Premier League team ever. CTID
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Because it's in City's hands? Really not that complicated.
We both have to win@@BourbonBiscuit.
@@HowardoColeBrown And if City win it doesn't matter, therefore it is in City's hands.
No one is english football achieved 4 titles in a row, this pep team is special, best ever for sure.
We will see if they can win the championship when they get relegated
@@emrahnmia3893 When then win the title you mean🤣
@@emrahnmia3893 😂😂😂😂jokes on you
I love watching how city plays i used to like how liverpool played when they had mane salah
The greatest manager in Premier League history, pep has changed the philosophy of every club. Every manager copies his tactics.
Man city would dominate every era. Sir alexs era, mourinho, wenger. No doubt they r the greatest.
In their dreams yes They would have got hammered by the Fergie Wenger teams
No one dominates forever. Once their funding is restricted, that's it
@@emrahnmia3893lmao wake up from your dreams bruh
@@emrahnmia3893 Fergie did it by intimidating refs ... so he's tainted.
@@pietrojenkins6901 Oh yeah I forgot about that 🤣🤣
No one needs Opta to know this at this point, after predicting rubbish earlier in the season.
predict
verb
say or estimate that (a specified thing) will happen in the future or will be a consequence of something.
How are you going to dismiss someone for prediction?
How is this even a question at this point.
I'm already calling a 5peat will happen.
6peat
2nd 🥈 that
In fact next season way stronger CITY 🌃
Plus u know thy r buyin 1-2 new players in Summer
5 peat. Ffs. Half a decade of City. This isn't normal.
@@iPhantom27 I want that 6peat badly.
One has to give Pep his flowers when it comes to coaching and managing his teams. I think mutual respect is a catalyst for a strong team. Pep has always establish his objectives for each season like many clubs do but you can't take the fact away that each player in his squad has a winning mentality, players want to win as a team, grow as an individual and achive personal goals. This is perhaps the best Man City team in the modern game. Money also plays a huge role and money has certainly help Man City achieved it's goals and objectives. Try winning the Premier league without buying big names then we can talk about who the greatest team is I guess. Yes Leicester has won the league without big names but they were not consistent so we can't put them in the category of being a great team, we can respect their achievement that year but consistency is what make you great.
Leicester did it
hit the nail on the head with the player's mentalities. Spans to the supposed selling Cole Palmer 'mistake' too; you've got to wait for the time and moment to be integrated into such an intricate system and if you can't wait and just want immediate personal development as a footballer (which fair enough) and not want to grow and fight for your place in the team then fine, go elsewhere; Pep has his system, and you either respect it, or you go. Was the same with Cancelo. In the end, the best players that fight for the badge and the collective and respect the manager are the ones that stay and go on to win trebles and record points etc.
Is the team filled with amazing players.. definately. how the team got assembled and maintained till today still baffles me. the transfer fee they pay for the world's best non-English players is way below market price. Till date nobody or team has even attempted to buy any of their world class players is confusing. When you mention leceister, how do they stay consistent when the next season city come in and buy their best player for a cut throat price? not being cynic here but historically every world class player in epl has been approached, eg. ronaldo to madrid, henry to barcelona, but none have left city, not even an offer. is it any wonder they are "consistent" when they are able to maintain the same team throughout the years?
@cloudstr by slapping big transfer fees on their players, I agree with what you saying. Let's take Barcelona, for example they've put ridiculous buy-out clauses on their players over the years. What buffles me is what's the point in signing a 4 yr contract if the player leave in a year or two into their contract
@@mpr1462 well...if its similar to what barcelona did, the whole world knew the fees. Eg it would take 200mil to sign mbappe. maybe you are more informed then me, but do you know of the transfer fees for any of man city's star players cause till date no one has any idea? what the buy out fees are for KDB the best midfielder in the world? john stones one of the best defenders, or even ederson? Secodly, if that is the tactic they are adopting, its even more unsustainable. What barcelona did was for a few select players, noone is able to put a huge transfer fee for every single player on the squad and still meet ffp, but yet no one manages to get city's players unless city feels they are no longer relevant
The answer to the question is Yes. As for the last stat Giggs played in the premier league over two decades. Manchester City have broken practically every major record in English football to compare the arsenal invisibles and Leicester on a par is hilarious. One drew a third of their games while the other was fresh playing once a week while their rivals were playing three times a week, it`s not rocket science.
I wish fans realize that 115 charges is mostly NOT in Pep's era n don't use that as sth to discredit his great achievements.
I'm not sure if any fan wd reject Pep if their clubs want to sign him.
Leave them with their silly little platitude. They don't have many left. The Emptihad is always full. The CL is in the cabinet, we can sing that. Treble? Always a small club with no history but a full trophy cabinet & a roof that doesn't leak. 😄
Maybe because everything else was built on the foundation of the 115, so it's still relevant to whatever eras come after that
@@aghaluugochukwu6493 Now that u ve taken ur 115 opium, go sleep n forget sorrows caused u by City's success.
@@aghaluugochukwu6493 Keyword "maybe"
Great input from the guests, including Mr Opta 😂😂🎉❤
A few seasons ago Leeds beat them with ONLY 10 men 😂 so they are beatable. 👍
Ofc they are beatable everyone is
Wow 🫵😄
Indeed - a few seasons ago 😅
@@deepstate7264 There you go then.
WAS THAT THE SAME LEEDS TEAM THAT GOT LEATHERED 7-0 ?
Yes they are, anyone saying no is a bitter fan of Liverpool or United hanging on to their past
Pep mentality is to be studied
Nobody talk
It’s all about his ability. He is a genius tactician.
Oil money. It's all about the city groups of clubs where man City, girona etc being owned by Al mansour.
All the teams are doing very well.
They are champions.
Girona almost won la liga.
Girona is a relegation team.
That's the study, do it personally.
@@josephujiadughele6035 I guess other teams are using milk money...
Well yeah obviously best team in Premier league history
How does the best team ever get beaten 3 times
@@emrahnmia3893so if they’re not the best team in PL history, who is? ManU with Ronaldo, Rooney? You wanna go check their stats?
Don't forget everton is tought opponent than westham
Self-evidently Manchester City of the last few years are one of the all-time great teams.
We must still remember that before Roman Abramovich Chelsea had one League title and before Sheikh Mansour Manchester City had won the League twice.
Chelsea were able to bring their success without any financial constraints and City could build the foundation of their success likewise.
And after there have been regulations, City are now facing 115 charges from the years 2009-2018.
You could then investigate also the years 2019-2023 and 2024.
Had to check my video wasn’t on 0.75x speed at the beginning when Rob was talking
It's Man City title to lose. I see them more motivated and prepared to win their 4th EPL title and make history.
Is very difficult to compare with teams at their peaks from Sir AF Man U team, Jose Mourinho Chelsea team n Arsene Arsenal team...As different times...but we have to admit this Man City team from Pep is one of e best in history, if not e best of e best among all!!!
115 charges till 2017😮 but in tat time they only won two title and remember Money don't make a team successful like this I give Credit to Pep for his incredible work . If money did this Look at United did it work for them ,
No one seems to think that Everton has a chance against Arsenal. Everton has conceded 49 goals and that's currently the 4th best in the EPL. There are nine possible combinations for the results in the Arsenal and City fixtures and from those outcomes, the majority favour City. But it's football and not maths.
City are the greatest pl team ever
last year's team were far better, with marez and gundewan. how can you forget the treble?
Imagine City have been a mess this season and not at their best but get the job even when arsenal is at its best in recent years, respect to Pep
I assume the guy next to Dougie is an Arsenal fan from the way that he's talking.
Sky just constantly ignore the big elephant in the room don't they? I wonder why
Could it be, hmmmm, that Man City are innocent until proven guilty, so they actually have to have their tribunal first before anything else can be said?
What elephant
115 charges
Inevitable
Yes oo
Chelsea and Man Utd may well have spent more,but over a much LONGER period , Ferguson and Abramovich era,
not since 2012 !
The fact Arsenal have 16% is mad
Why? It's 1 game
The possibility that they might finish the season without a trophy is crazy
@@thapelotatedi-qk9ko u r wrong 😑 n I’m city 🌃
Ur Arsenal won community
@@blueshadow62 😂
Seems like it should be way smaller than 16 percent.
No its not the best side by far even last season team was better then know but REGARDLESS they have been phenomenal success.. I reali hope they make history 🏆💙
I'd argue the City side that scored 100 points was better
No 18/19 was best
We can only know after the 115 trial
its not a trial its a hearing.
Why do you think an independent panel at a hearing will find some of the biggest companies guilty of fraud? God help you if you do!
@@ifl1476 And, it won't be heard because the useless EPL are looking for a exit strategy
Cry more
Have you not heard? The PL have blown their arse again and are wondering how they get out of this farce without losing all their credibility. City are also targeting individuals and organisations that have been a bit too mouthy about the 115. Watch out for a knick at the door...
For Arsenal to come from where they were, to taking it to the final day against the Treble Winners is crazy. Arsenal need to win it soon to get the respect they want but any of the other rival fans that want to banter Arsenal would trade places with them any day right now.
ManCity spectacular this season big tumb ups for Erling Haaland
Need to proceed with the 115 charges and we need to know what they were!
Ask ur mum‼️💋🫦😆
People know what they are. 🤡
You should understand those charges, are on court bro. Football doesn't played in the court room, it played in the pitch.
Well seeing the confidence of city group and how they have managed to sign long contracts with new players even after those charges, I believe they are more than confidence of winning the case
@@blueshadow62 your mum asked me about this earlier
The celebration was for winning a game, not a silverware. Therefore not over the top
Pep is an absolute monster, the levels to compete with his team requires perfection. You loose 1 game and you can say title hopes good bye.
Every year they ask the same question🤣
Once someone mentions the 115 charges that's were I draw line that they don't have an argument
salty, sour and pathetic!!!
No pep draws the line with the trophies. You guys on the other side just crying 😂
There best signing is the PGMOL
And don't ever forget that Pep is THE GOAT by miles
Alex Ferguson is the GOAT, Pep is a solid 2nd.
He is not a goat coach for me he only coaches rich clubs let him go to Nottingham forest bring it to top then I will believe in him as a goat
When city looses the case we will get our two trophies back
@@jkakiikistop watching football coz u are too naive
@@jkakiiki why did you believe That Ronaldo and messi are the best? They should play for Sheffield United and win titles for Sheffield to prove they are the best
Yes last time I saw team like this team man united under Sir Alex
Overrated United team
Man U Fergie was never this dominant
As a city fan, they r dominant. But citys qualities have dropped this year. Mahrez, gundo left. Bernardo and kdb both have declined by their standards. City must sign some world class players next season. A right winger, a right back, a mid fielder. Then they will be okay.
Next year, city
Goat manager
If they win 4 in a row then it's without question they're the best ever. 100pts. Domestic treble. The treble and 4 in a row in a 7 year period.
Yes they have won almost every combination. Will be another double.
No , Messi xaxi, busquet that team of 2011, are the best. They played play station football that season
Am an Arsenal fan but I accept that Man City is the strongest team in EPL now in terms of playing.
But when we talk about charges, i also don't get it coz of recent, we have seen Everton having some points deducted due to the breach of FFP. And it's like Everton's charges are fewer compared to Man City's and to me it's so ridiculous!
How did the charges stop you from failing to get more than a point against fulham, West ham, 0 against villa 😂. Parked the bus at Etihad instead of going for 3 points 😂
115 fc has more points...
115 charges F.C
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115 needs to sorted then we talk
Lol
You'll still be crying when they clear their name, again.
based on the points they won this season vs the other seasons, definitely NOT!.
Those odds are way way off. 84% chance to win?!!! That's saying 16% chance that arsenal win and man city lose?!!! More like 1% at the very most
all it takes is one lucky draw from west ham, could come from a city mistake, terrible refereeing, a lucky deflection etc... it is football after all
@@lukaslesniak1415 or even a red card
This is one of greatest teams but 98-99 and 08-09 Utd teams are head and shoulders above them look what Ferguson achieved with class of 92 and where he took them pep only takes over teams with mega rich owners he has not proven he can manage normal team fact
Love that argument. He broke transfer records for fun. 🤡
@@drdassler but did he buy whole team from scratch no name me a player that played for FA sorry city 05-06 season or even 06-07 season that was there in 08 when sugar daddy took over face it pep is just good when money is in play fact he never ever be close to the GOAT sir Alex or even wenger
@@davidmorrow3282he is far ahead
They cannot beat the aguero,david silva,fernandinho,nasri,kompany side.
Do you seriously, seriously believe that a team coached by Manuel Pellegrini would beat any Pep team to a league title?
Most definitely. No other team ever won the League title 4 times in a row. Mind you, as i'm writing this, there's still 1 game left, but Pep is too good i know he's gonna beat West Ham and lift that title. Arteta has great potential to emulate Pep, but he must still gain experience. And Pep must retire or leave the Premier League first
Imagine Pep managing Man Utd now
Everton or West ham can play a major part in deciding who will be champions
Both teams lose to West Ham Everton lol that would be hilarious
They will play no role. They have nothing to play for.
@@Doktah_GroundZeroYou never know....West Ham win...Arsenal win....then Arsenal win the title.....so still to play for....even though some think the season has finished.....if it was finished then City are champions and should be given the title last night...but no they are not yet.
@@MrEchoes1962 if any team is losing it is Arsenal. Get over it
@@CR7_THEGOAT777 Yeah okay.....find out at the weekend won't we.
Absolutly because all teams want to beat city plus Guardiola plus barcelona in the same time
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115? Crickets
Boring. 🥱 Unfounded allegations which will be cleared. Then what will you bang on about? 🤔
@@drdassler uefa already found city guilty but couldnt punish them due to time paased restrictions. No time limit with the prem so they should have something nice for them
@@jamesrawl3648 Keep crying
115% sure 👍
Not guilty
115 buckets of tears. Cry more
Keep filling those tanks.
There are 115 reasons why they're the best premier League team ever. You failed to mention any of that.
Drake lost his bet, today's Drake bet is on man city win
Yeah until the last whistle is not over yet
115 reasons why they are
Cry
The title is not over at all
Yes it is
115 FC will be champion again and again
as a city fan put some respect on united
Still speaking of twists 🤦🤦you guys don't rest
The British media aren't honest and impartial. For them, there are always only three that they always want to win. Even if that is always false, their funny analysis is always to please themselves. Those clubs are ManU, Liverpool and Arsenal FC in same order. So, these Media will never appreciate Man City. 😂😂😂
It's the entire establishment. Look how they keep trying to screw them with phoney charges.
Technically yes. But the 115 undermines everything theyve achieved
100 plus charges pending
115...
Surely their chance of winning the league now is somewhere around 115%?
😭
Cry more
good one
@@kontomylitis City won a treble last year and nobody is arsed, people still talk about United’s treble 25 years later, City’s will be forgotten due to how they achieved it
@@gorsty7283Man city is a plastic club whatever they achieve is irrelevant. Liverpool, Man united and Arsenal are the real big clubs in England they will stay forever even if they don't win anything
Winning three in a row twice is harder than just winning 4 in row.
How about city wining 6 in a row ?
We will see Sunday how 16%>84% in football
Theyll wim 115 leagues in a row at this rate
Arsenal gonna hope dortmund miracle last season 😅
Greatest team ever
AS A CITY FAN I DO ADVICE OTHERS TO REALIZE WHE HAVEN'T WON THE TITLE YET! WE ARE FACING A MATCH IN WHICH THE LISTAKE'S ERRORS MUST BE ZERO.
Unlimited budget. Not natural. Sky have to pretend that everything is ok with the PL though, I understand.
115
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everton beat arsenal 1-0 away in 2021 whats he on about
💙💙Best Team in the world
I take it you go home and away watching man city? And loved them for many years 🤔
Are you forgetting real Madrid they didn't cheat .City will never be a big club I respected the old man City more they were a honest club at least they were REAL
@@chrisbee487pays for a ticket but can’t make it due to heavy traffic, like the rest of them 😂
Oh that journalist on the right is proper salty.
on their right?
Not the best or most exciting City side we have seen. They are just a " get the job done" Man City. Like all title winning sides they have rode their luck with moments like Doku with his foot up in the chest of a Liverpool player which should have resulted in a defeat. Kovacic should have been sent off in the Arsenal game at the Emirates. Gvardiol should have conceded a penalty early on at Crystal Palace. Third and fourth goals in that match had a whiff of offside. We must also consider how the heavy handed application of FSR this season has forced so many to reduce spending on players and in some cases desperately offloading players to placate the Premier League. That has the impact of dilluting the quality of the league. Hence nobody can compete against City and Arsenal. City already have their all-stars with their £50million Giant Centre-forward leading the line. No one else could buy such a player even if another existed without facing a points deduction.
115 no's from me
Cry cry
I honestly wonder if Pep is still Pep with limited funded clubs
You clearly don't know how it works. The funds aren't infinite. Do you know anything about any of the things you say?
Screw you, Sky Sports. That made your day yesterday. Manchester City History is no History. Your History is 115 Charged
😢😢😢😢 cry cry
Took record financial doping to become this so yes, thy are the best ever
No cos we have the invisible pls come on guys.
You said it yourself. They spent big in the past and then sold them for big money.
It's like saying you can only spend £50m but you spend £100m instead that they won't fully investigate for a couple of years and get away with it, sell the £100m of players and buy in £100m of new players and say you only spent what you got in and not over and saved £50m that year from the expected spend and turn £50m into a "legitimate" £100m, IE money laundering 🤷🏻♂️
From then onwards, every single signing has been influenced and maintained by laundered money and reputation.
Oh my days, you think that arbitrary rules are money laundering. You have no idea how finance works, especially in football. Sigh...let me explain. If a team signs a player for £50m on a 5 year contract, then on the books it is £10m per season for those 5 years, not £50m in the first season and nothing in the next 4. It is called amortisation. If you then sell the player in year 3 or 4 of that contract, you deduct what is left of amortisation from the books, so you sell him for £100m in year 3, he has cost you £20m so far, giving you a profit of £80m, not the £50m that you aren't able to comprehend.
all those words to make a fool of yourself. Well done
@@handsolo1209 wow, so you don't understand representative values and I have to explain it exactly with £105m over 3 years 🤣
The basics of it is that you spend more than you are allowed but don't reduce it and you take that inflated value and turn it into legitimate values further down the line. The value of the collective team is then inflated because that extra, for example, £50m was never taken away from them, but we all know it's more than £50m, and that was just a representative value of over spend over the 3 year period.
Not to mention the inflated value of the club after financially doping the team to titles.
Same goes for any business because it is a business, fair enough it's a push for money laundering, but it's about taking money that isn't allowed and turning it into money that is allowed, apart from it's a civil agreement instead of criminal, still the same actions and results while going against laws/rules in place, also if you artificially adjust your books, which would appear more favourable to investors and mislead them, that is criminal.
And after the Chelsea fiasco, I think we all understand contract lengths and spreading the cost 🤦🏻♂️🤣
@@jamm8284 You are just digging yourself even deeper. You are allowed LOSSES of £105m over 3 years, not only allowed to spend that in 3 years. There is no "money laundering" going on. There is a constant flux in football of transfers. Some players make you a loss (Kalvin Phillips is a did for Man City and will end up costing them a good £30m if they simply release him at the end of the season), but most players don't actually cost that much over the period of the contract. What FFP means is that some clubs will have to sell to balance the books. A team like Luton selling a player for £50m will be huge for their FFP balance. A team like City spending £300m in a window will have very little impact on the balance. You really shouldn't post about things you know nothing about.
@@handsolo1209 🤦🏻♂️ I know it's £105m losses over 3 years I said £50m losses over what you are allowed, I'm not saying man city spent £50m over either 🤣 they are representative values.
And if the unlawful acts, by the prems conditions, impact the financial strength and capability and affect the shareholders, you can guarantee legal actions will be taken by shareholders.
Absolutely yes!!This is the best ever Premier League team!!About everything!!!They are ALIENS!!Simply ALIENS!!They are aliens from many years breaking all records,playing the best football ever seen in England and winning everything!!ALIENS!!