HowTo: Interchange Your Bosch & Dremel 12V Max Li-Ion Batteries ~8220 Multi-Max 8200 PS41
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Here's how to easily interchange your batteries for all of your Bosch 12v Max Lithium-Ion Batteries with your Dremel 12V Max Lithium-Ion batteries.
It only takes a few seconds to convert one battery to the other tool. No Modification required. ~
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Just bought a Dremel 8260. My existing 12-year-old Bosch drill/driver batteries fit perfectly in the Dremel and vice versa. There's no need for any modifications or removal.
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I recently (2/2020) purchased a new version of the excellent tool that uses these batteries to take advantage of the multi-head feature. One of the two batteries was defective from the outset. No worries, when I called to register the warranty I reported the issue and a replacement is being sent. When I asked about returning the defective one I was told to dispose of it in an environmentally responsible way. Always the geek I wondered about the possibility of repair and as a result viewed this "excellent video".
In the 7 years since this was made there have been some changes. Most notably the end cap on the Bosch battery pack is much harder to remove. A very sticky adhesive has been applied between the end cap and the rest of the pack. I ended up using my Dremel clone to cut away the center of the end cap. That revealed and loosened the adhesive allowing the end cap to be removed. The rest of the pack case is now a single piece of plastic that the battery assemble is press fit into (no cap). It appears that there is now a rubber insulator between the batteries. This insulator is compressed when the batteries are inserted into the case. This produces a very tight fit. The resulting assembly has so far resisted my attempts at non-destructive disassembly.
Same me. To use Bosch 12V on my 10.8V Deremel 8200 I had to cut out some walls of new cap. So now I can run it no problem. And bosch 12V has 2.0 Ah while Dremel 10.8V had 1.3 Ah. A good thing to use now.
I ran into the same problem. I did do a partial destructive disassembly of my battery to figure out how best to handle this in the future. The battery can slide out of the case, but it is in tight. I did a test where I used hot melt glue and pull tabs from a dent puller kit. I was able to successfully pull the battery pack out of the case. If you did not have dent puller tabs it might be possible to just use a wooden dowel.
It seems that this video would also be VERY useful for owners of both green (DIY) and blue (pro) lines of Bosch tools so that they could use same batteries in both tools. Everywhere on the forums they say that batteries are not interchangeable but (to a wide extent) the only difference seems to be geometry of the caps that are easily exchanged as shown in this video.
I can affirm they can fit with some modifications. I own a 12v green Bosch tool, and I've bought some 12v blue batteries (cheaper and easier to find) and within a few minutes with only a Dremel tool I was able to use them in my green Bosch tool.
You do a great job of explaining the unobservable aspects of the procedure, like the forces you're applying when gripping the battery. Very thought out and informative. :thumbsup:
Genius, simply genius! Thank you so much for this! I knew there had to be a simple way to switch between the two besides altering the bases. I know this is old but I hope this video is monetised for you.
Fantastic. Just bought a Dremel 8220. Very useful information. Thanks.
Dude, you just saved me like 20 bucks! These damn dremel batteries are double the price of the bosch ones. unbelievable.
Aren't Bosch batteries more expensive than Dremel?
@@kornelijekovac9793 market has changed over the years, I guess.
I look at booth few days ago just renewed a battery like that just the bottom plate you can replace also interchange the batterys in ya bosh and dremel with 18650 Samsung 40T and get more amps and also 3100mah
Unfortunately, they just re-released the replacement batteries on the Bosch side (Bat414) and they got rid of those cap release tabs on the bottom. I was just about to buy a battery and decided to look at your video again and compared it to the product that picked up off the shelf. Those tab openings are gone.
Nice !!
Saved me a bunch. I have a few bosch batteries but the dremel only came with one!
Super useful!!! Thank you for your hard work!!
my 8220 came with a charger that looks identical to the bosch charger..... the battery was poop; bought 2 generic batteries and they kinda saved the usability of the thing for me, nearly thought I had bought into a gimmick
Hi , why some BOSH 2 or 3 amp the NOTCH on the battery one is on + side and some are on Negative side ?
What an excellent video!
Thank you.
Your Welcome!
Great job explaining!
Super helpful, thank you
The same batteries but with a slightly different casing bottom to restrict swapping out between brands.
with dremel being a part of the bosch group, I am confused why they even included this restriction
Thank You for the video
Hi there. I have a Dremel 8200 with 10.8V battery, and I am not aware if I can change it for a 12V unit. Do you havve this information ? Thank you.
I tried to replace old bosch 10.8v 1.5Ah for a new 12v 2.0Ah and the 12v is a little bit taller and the clips inside my PSR 1080 screwdriver handle aren't catching the battery so it isn't fully inserted, shame it didn't worked for me :(
Wasted £30 for 12V which doesn't fit at all
thank you been looking for dremel batts, but now can use my 10.8v bosh. great video.
I would like to exchange with Milwaukee batteries. Both are very interesting 12v line.
Excellent video.
Hi. Do you know if a Bosch charger bc430 will charge my dremel 8220 battery? Thanks
Sadly, Bosch 12v are no longer this way.
Now, the removable base, is the base of the battery itself.
Awesome- Thank you
I wonder if the milwaukee 6.0ma 12volt battery will fit the dremel.. with some modification it should fit...
I though the same only the positive and negative are reversed, they are one step ahead on this one
Please tell me how to open the battery 8100 device to replace the internal battery?
Any idea if the same can be done with Milwakee 12v?
Great info, seen so many other makes with similar ends cheers
Bosch makes a 12v rotary tool
Useful stuff to know...
Thanks
Hi aren't the dremel batteries the same as Bosch batteries for green 12V tools? "Power For All" format.
I have a bunch of batteries for the greens, and I'm trying to figure out if I could fit them in blue tools.
I just bought a Dremel 8260 and the battery design is the same as these Bosch 12V Max.
If you use another type of battery on a dremel charger that can defect the charger it happened with me
They should make standard sizes for these batterys. Its a pain in the ass when your battery fails and you have another battery from a different manufacturer which doesnt fit...
Every battery from every manufacturer of these tools should be interchangeable. They should also make 16850 cells swappable like AA or AAA ones are. People should boycott brands which do not follow these guidelines. No, not the people, they are not reliable. Government should not give licence for production or import of goods that does not follow standards.
Very good video. Thanks for sharing!
Nice!
any idea if this will work with other brands like bosch for milwaukee or bosch for makita?
Unfortunately not. The only reason it works between Bosch and Dremel is because Bosch owns dremel.
cr38er can you help me please I bought Bosch 12v cordless drill, impact and saw I just realized that is not working in Africa because back home we use 220 V is there any option that I can get the 220 v charger so that I can use them thanks 🙏
Thanks a lot!
Great info, thanks. Which Bosch batteries are you using please? They may be cheaper here in Aus than the cripplingly expensive Dremels. Thanks.
The model numbers for the Bosch Batteries are BAT414 and BAT413
Common name is "Bosch 12v Max"
How do you do it with a 6ah Bosch 12v battery
In the dremel
Will this modification work on the Bosch BAT420 4 amp-hour battery so you can use it in the Dremel 8220 cordless rotary tool? I would love to use the extra capacity and the Bosch 30 minute charger with my Dremel 8220. The base of the Bosch battery looks like it might be a problem, though.
Brent E Not as easily, you would have to use your dremel to modify the plastic where it meets the body of the dremel.
can the battery just be placed into the dremel bare I know it won't lock
Excellent :-) great idea. Just wondering though, would a dremel 8220 battery fit my 8200? I know 8220 is 12v and 8200 10v though
Yes they use the same battery. The 8200 shipped with older batteries with les Ah, but the batteries are interchangeable.
cr38er excellent :-) many thanks
Bri w They're both _~10.8V; 1.5Ah._ They just slap _12V MAX_ on them in the USA as some kind of marketing ploy. Also, the _4V_ version is _~3.6V; 1.3Ah.
You mentioned in the comments below that you used the BAT414. I noticed that Bosch has a newer 4Ah version called the BAT420. The base looks different so I'm assuming it won't interchange. Do you have any experience with it?
That's a good question. I haven't seen one in person yet so I can't say for sure. The cylinder part will always be the same so the only question is whether the back clips are detachable. If you try it let me know so I can update the video.
Seems like it would be better to break the snaps that secure the battery to the fascia. This would allow the plastic pieces to act as battery lids/caps instead.
Like a remote control's battery door.
cool! Thank You for the video.
You're welcome :)
Bosch owns Dremel AFAIK ... hence the same batteries
_Dremel_ is a subsidiary of _Robert Bosch GmbH_ & a division of _Robert Bosch Tool Corp._ But this style of battery connector is also used by completely unrelated brands; like _Milwaukee,_ and _Black & Decker._
does the dremel battery charge in the bosch charger?
+Max Maguire Yup it does.
Its kinda dick move imo, given the fact Dremel is owned by BOSCH so its basicly same manufacturer.
You are an awesome person! LoL!
nice job
Thanks!
Will the Bosch 2.0Ah work on the Dremel ? I think the Dremel's are 1.5Ah.
Yes, they are the same except for the back part which will snap onto either battery pack.
dat clickbait. you didnt even showed the modification.
Anyone who has a 3d printer (or a friend with a 3d printer) can print a new base with this, I'm trying it tomorrow.
Dremel 8200 battery container www.thingiverse.com/thing:225780/#comment-611334
This video shouldn't need to exist. Thanks though.
Thanks for this video. Good karma your way.
MODIFY THEM.... be much better than this unclipping. Nice trick tho.
Does the same work for 10.8 v dremel battery? I can't find a charger to replace my bad Dremel
I'm searching to see if the 12v batteries are usable in the 10.8v sold dremel here in Australia. Normally I'd think no...... But on the side of my dremel that came with a 10.8v battery, it says ...... 12v!
The charger that came with my dremel won't be usable if I get 12v batteries as its max is 10.8v.
Not sure if that helps you.
How opened Bosch battery 10.8V 4Ah?