How To Paint Rusty Metal
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- čas přidán 4. 07. 2016
- Here is how to paint rusty metal the easy way. Rather then sending all of the rust off of the metal, you could buy a rest converting primer, which mixes with the rust and converts it into a primer paint that protects the middle underneath. You can paint over it once you are done, or you can just use it as a standalone coat of paint. If you want to paint rusty metal, and you don't care if it looks really good or not, rust converting primer is a great option, and it is a lot faster and cheaper than sending all the rust off of the metal before you paint it. Here is where to get it:
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I had a stroke at the Beginning
Ha ha! Sorry about that.
hoohoohoblin nah mate it was funny I was like am I ok 😂?
don’t hear it very often thanks for the Kwl vid helpful you and the 100 other vids I have watched 👍
Lance Uppercut 🤣🤣🤣
Lmfao me too!!! I thought I was having a seizure. Too funny
Whole lot of talking going on. I felt the same.
One of my eye balls popped out of my head during that intro holy Sh!t
2.5 mil views and my guy still hasn't realized that 15 second out of body experience in the beginning of the video.
3.2Mil now 😆
The double talk at beginning was pretty gnarly dude 🤙 I looked around to see if the shadows of my past were coming back 😆
I knew all those hits of windowpane would come back to haunt me
😂😂😂😂
Lolol
@@spiketaterman5181 oh my gosh, cracking up here.
I have used a similar rust converting product like this for years. Hard to believe but it really works well and is very durable. I recommend it.
What did you use?
Corroseal
@@robbiesharp311 I used a product called Plastikote for many years. Scrape off loose rust, paint it on as a clear coat and it dries to a dark blue/black hard coat which I then paint with the car colour. It is stunningly good. I now find Plastikoat was bought out by Dupli-Color. Looking at their website Dupli-Color does a product called Rust Fix which I suspect is Plastikote rebranded. Unfortunately they only sell it now as an aerosol from what I see, though I could be wrong. I always keep a bottle of Plastikote on the shelf and touch up rust whenever it appears. That, combined with an annual Rust Check spray treatment every year means the bodies of my cars never fail me. Hope that helps.
On reading further, Corroseal is evidently an identical product judging by the described action, plus it is sold in a small plastic bottle (non-aerosol). That would be my choice for future purchases.
the beginning was suitable for my other me, we both understood.
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Well I am restoring my 1984 GMC K2500 again, 1st time in AZ and now in NC, very humid and salt on roads here. After looking at scores of these rust stop videos I am thinking about Fluid Film or similar lanolin type product. There is a bit of maintenance and you don't want a cat hiding up there, due to it being gooey. From what I see it does a great job of stopping and preventing rust.
Hell yea! exactly what I was looking for. And the needle scaler comment made it great.
@Cory Miller >He says “Its best to clean the loose stuff off with a wire wheel”. Then goes ahead and paints the converter on the loose stuff. ASE Master since 1978 - Retired
Muito bom.
Fiz o mesmo no carrinho de mão e ficou muito bom.
Pintei depois de preto e ficou ainda melhor para durar!
I thought the spirits were talking to me in the beginning of the video lol
I remember way back in the 1980s when they are selling a particular paint that contains fish oil, and all you have to do is to use all of the different kinds of steel brush inorder to reach all of the rusted metal parts and components inorder to remove all loose rust flakes and then spray or bush that fish oil-based paint because the fish oil will allow the synthetic resin component of the paint to penetrate right through all of that stubborn and tenacious rust UNTIL IT COMES INTO CONTACT WITH UNRUSTED STEEL OR IRON ITSELF.
Appreciate your video, short , yet well detailed.
Thanks.
Wire brushed my frame & front end etc(E350 4x4 van)... then put this stuff on and wanted to see how long it would last. So far its been 3-4 years and only a little has come back through, so this time I'm gonna do it again with Rustoleum Professional grade Oil gloss black to seal it since Corroseal is only a Primer. Even a body shop guy said stay again from those undercoatings cause they are all rubberized and just peel. You can also just mix the rustoleum with acetone to spray it in the hard to reach areas with - 4 parts rustoleum to 1 part acetone ratio, then clean gun with Lacquer thinner first then mineral spirits.
Same thing happened to me with the truck in the video. I ended up putting a coat of rustoleum black barbecue paint over it. This stuff works great as a primer, but a coat of paint over it makes it last a long time.
Thank you. Exactly what I wanted to do. Never knew this existed. I will do this.
You’re welcome
You really need to push and stipple the loaded brush into that rusted metal (rather than just brushing it on lightly) and apply two or three coats of it for better coverage and protection. Priming and painting is then advised.
Wow, looks great.
Woah, that's wicked! I know your channel from watching your mountain bike videos, but I was surprised to see your channel pop up when I searched "how to fix rusty metal", so I could fix my old Ranger.
Ha ha! I’m everywhere!!!
Been using POR-15 for 20 years on many east coast rustbuckets. Always worked for me.
I’m sure that’s good stuff too. I used it to patch a leaky motorcycle gas tank years ago, and it worked great.
@@hoohoohoblin plastic or metal tank?
@@sean.g4516 🤣🤣🤣
I use adcoat by the gallon
I use it same on frame but also under the hood on even the partially rusted and painted parts it dries clear on them give the compartment a clean great look
Ion hey rusted areas I treat them 3 times to get them to totally stop rusting.
I replaced the cap with a tip style cap and squeeze it out on a tooth brush or paintbrush to get all the smaller parts it made my Cadillac look great and I did valve covers and repainted o er it with paint
Good panted areas like air cleaner I brushed it on them let it partially dry the criss crossed the brush strokes and looks fantastic when dry co.es out like a faint orange peel Clearcoat
When repainting car parts that were rusty a make a date of when i painted it. I know how long it lasts before it needs doing it again. I use zinc primer which should help.
Michael David agreed zinc helps
I own semi trucks and trailers and It's really unfortunate how these companies are misleading the public. All the rust converters/ rust reformers are pure bs. The best method I found to work is getting an angle grinder with a flap disc, getting the frame as close to bare metal as possible than power washing it thoroughly let it sit for a few days to dry. Than roll, spray or brush rustoleum oil based paint apply it very thick. Give it at least 3 passes. Thank me later.
I use stuff called Black Star.. it’s amazing stuff.. how do you say it’s pure bs if you put it on and the rust doesn’t come through again??
What about miriatic acid? I heard it eats away the rust, then u paint it.
@Rick Simpson so after all my research it looks like a product from lock tight called naval jelly is the best, cause it's got phospheric acid, as muriatic acid has a different kind of acid that makes things worse. Would u agree. Also after I pressure wash it all off, do I still need to use alcohol or brake cleaner before I paint using Rust-Oleum oil based..??
@Rick Simpson ok. I only have surface rust so a hammer it too much! I was thinking of a grinder with one of those pleated disks. So just good ole elbow grease huh? Then after I get down to bare metel, clean with brake cleaner, then paint. U sure I don't need a primer first??
@Rick Simpson 03 Xterra 4x4. Exhaust and shocks rusted through, but I'm replacing all that. Frame has minor surface rust, as well as all the bolts, etc. Bottom and frame not too bad.
"and now my rusty metal is protected!" loool
Very cool! Thanks for the upload!
You’re welcome.
Up here in eastern Canada when our highway snow plows start to get rusty they get sand blasted and a coat of zinc paint before they get another coat of snowplow yellow. Makes a huge difference when one accidentally doesn't get the zinc paint and pops rust by next spring. Use it anytime I paint something rusty.
Thanks
Thanks.
The video itself is GREAT...
Great information.. Thank YOU.
It is phosphoric acid, a common old-time brand is called "Ospho", been around for ever, it works.
I was going to post but noticed you already had it here lol. Home depot sells a gallon used for concrete etching that is super concentrated and can be sprayed as well for soaking. Rust turns black and it is ready to paint.
I'm a body repairer and we put a rubber glove on and rag it on only use a brush on the tight bits that way you can rub it in and get an even coat,put a mask on too
Seems identical to Bilt Hamber Hydrate 80. Good stuff!
I used this stuff and it looked good for a few months and rust spots popped right out again. Mine dried black by the way!
Same case here. What it do is reform upper layer of rust and it is ok for a few months. That rust proofing system is worthless.
I hear u, what I did now was used fluid film. I picked it up at Lowe’s. It sprays a greasy liquid on the surface that is supposed to stop rust from continuing and protects it for about a year. So I would have to shoot another Cote on it next year. U should check it out!
I've used rust converters before but they have never worked properly, they'll convert some of the rust to the black non corrosive stuff but not all of it and thats where the problem is, the bits that arent converted just rust underneath the surface.
The best product I have used is Penetrol (not sure what they call it in other Countries) but thats the stuff they use on boats to stop the rust.
thanks that was great video iam old man starting on my 95 ford xl once again thanks
Looks much better .. great job bud..
I thought I was tripping balls the first few seconds!!!!
“Look at the debriss bois” 😂
The echoes at the start were really cool
thanks for the tip. I’ll give it a try on my truck.
I make my own oil mixture up to coat the frame and floors, 1 gallon can with motor oil and 5 or 6 tubes of h.p grease used for ball joints etc, mix it up til it's gloopy and thick and paint it on, it lasts way longer than the oil guard at Ziebart and when it starts drying out gloop on some more, I do the engine compartment, underneath the inside door jambs and anywhere I won't brush on getting in the car, my 04 Hummer had a couple small spots starting and I completely avoided them with the gloop.
I'm pleased that you've come up with a remedy just like mine. Thanks. I noticed that the frame and suspension parts don't rust when they get coated with old oil and grease just from ordinary driving. My poor old '93 "Jimmy" has a severe rust problem in the frame and the two "A" frames. I save used grease and old motor oil for my mixture. After flushing out the rocker panels, and letting them dry, I poured my solution through the long holes under the door thresholds after I covered the drain holes, and blasted the inside with compressed air which splashed it on the tops and sides, as well as the bottoms of the insides of the rockers. I let them set for a day so the mixture would sink into the bottom seams. One video recommend automatic trany oil, as it contains a rust preventer. No rusted rockers for at least 10 years.
It slows the rust down but remember.....rust never sleeps.
Used it years ago and worked great
This would be a great application to stop the rust from spreading , buying you time to properly address it later down the road
I'm sorry as a restoration shop owner for nearly 37 years I can't agree with your process, you have to remember that if you don't at least get the loose rust off your rails then all you're doing is sealing in the rust which will grow inside quickly and this will become a nightmare. At least take a high-speed polisher with a flat wheel or a large scuff wheel and get the loose stuff off and this actually works pretty good after that
He literally said that in the video to get all the loose rust off, you just didn't watch an hour of him wirebrushing it off.
For heavy rust use a needle scaler to remove it. It's much faster than anything else. When you use the rust converter you should also paint over it to better seal the rust from the oxygen it needs to grow,
Sage advice, always apply an aerosol spray of galvanising paint, then a coat of Smoothrite black afterwards to achieve the best results👍
Best car video in 2021 I as can say!
Hmmm, I'm will be on the lookout for this product , thanks.
You’re welcome. There is a link to it in the description.
is it ok to use around the brake line and rubber bushings?
Anyone else get led here directly from that other dude's frame rust removal video with the truck frame?
Wire wheel or brush. Clean with prep sol. Paint with POR15 chassis paint. Done!
Very cool, thanks for the tip.
You’re welcome
I was gonna call an ambulance out because I though I was having a seizure stroke
I thought I opened a rift in space time for a minute there.
Beautiful thank you for the video 👍
You’re welcome
It looks really good.
Thanks
If that’s rust I’ll gladly take that in Chicago lol
I thought I was high as a kite at the beginning
Great job!!!!! I gotta get some of that stuff!
You should!
Thank you so much. Was getting worried I'd have to really shell out to get this crap off my truck.
You’re welcome. This is cheap to do, and it will last a lot longer if you put a coat of rustoleum over it after you paint the rust converter on it. Either way, it will make your truck last a lot longer without rusting.
A needle scaler will get rust off better than any air tool or chizel.
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Thanks, the neighbors are gonna love me. LOL
Harbor freight air hammer
All rust converters are temporary, you need a permanent paint coverage over the metal; after primer. Most rust converters say this on the container, and mention to paint anyway.
You are right. I think the best thing to do would be to hit it with Rustoleum or with truck bedliner after it dries.
@@hoohoohoblinRustoleum is crap. Oil based pain, like the shit you put on your walls, is the best. 3 layers. It'll last a couple years easy.
@@timothyandrewnielsen Rustoleum is oil based paint. Wall paint is latex.
gary24752 true
hoohoohoblin slightly thin the rust paint to penetrate all the crevices and welds
Wow! What cruel fate that I didn't discover you 4 years ago. Thanks for the info!!
You’re welcome
Wow that’s awesome!!!
Thanks
Мы, в России по другому боремся с ржавчиной!
Ага, просто хер на неё забиваем... Ну и пушечным салом не забыть помазать, может и спасет.
I paint rust with copper grease. Never bothered to clean the rust off first. I am too lazy and have a theory that the rust would act as a barrier. The exhaust then produces quite a bit of smoke, on the outside!
@Will Swift It smoked until the grease is evaporated by the heat. It's like over heating cooking oil in pan. I haven't checked, the exhaust hasn't developed a hole or fallen off. The exhaust is 18 year old and 130k miles. There is only smoke on very hot parts.
Is there any spray instead... for tighter corners
Mine looked about the same. Rusty & dusty orange. All I did was spray it with StaBil rust stopper. A temporary film. It's a 1995 suburban just rotting away in my driveway.
Acid had me tripping at the start
Rust Never Sleeps
True.
That’s what Neil Young says too.
Ewan Yengi Rust forever young.
Ewan Yengi Rust never die.
Ewan Yengi Rust forever hungry. 😂🤣
Wow looks good. I think I'll use this on my truck
It does a great job of neutralizing the rust and creating a paintable primer base. I’d recommend painting over it with something like rust oleum.
l have used this. works well. paint over after dry
Thanks. You’re right about that. It does last longer if you paint over it with rustoleum after it dries.
A bit of a jeckal and hyde moment at the start, I thought it was my device piling in 😂👌😁
Nice talking over your talking at the start😂
this stuff been on the market for years am 56 i first got this for my motorbike when i was 16 yep that long a go
Looks good
Tell your friend to stop talking over you
That’s exactly what I was thinking
I thought something was wrong with my phone lmao
Turn off the captions
No it was a editing glitch
Ha! That ain't rust. Come to Michigan,. I'll show you rust!
Ed Grigsby nah that’s rust bro, y’all cars just falling apart
Ed Grigsby come to canada
Damn, people from Michigan are so cool with all their rust.
@@CrispyHulk1 not much of a choice road salt 3 - 4 months a year
or to Canada rather =)
thank you!!
+Alex Thomas you're welcome.
1.) Fe(III)O + oxidated Lineoil .... time for setting .... 2.) bitumen coating oder more of 1.)
Trust me that rust will just come straight back. Ive tried all them rust converters, a year later RUST! just get it back to clean metal with abrasives
POR15 buddy
If you don't use a sealer on por15 it will rust, but it still takes many years.
what kind of sealer? whats the process you use?
Brush rust off buy metal rusting+any color mixed paint and later on do undercoat with this. I do every 2 years and its fine :)
Yep, soon as it touches salt. My truck looked so nice, the frame even got compliments when it was inspected. The next year it looked worse.
Can you give an example of a water-based cleaner (or two) that you use after the Corroseal?
AS SOON AS IT TURNS BLACK I PAINT OVER IT! AS IT IS FROM RUST TO PRIMER.
@@tradmanmike3360 thinking this does not address my question.
Yeah the correct way is to grind or bristle the old rust away first and then seal and paint if you want, but that stuff will come back through because you never removed the oxidation,...but if you don't mind going thru that process every year or so, then you're fine
Nice results. I guess if you get it before it goes to far its good. Thinking about purchasing an old Tacoma (95'-03') but they had a recall for rusted frames
+myCarRepairChannel Thanks. I think I heard that the Toyota frames would actually break because they weren't strong enough. If you buy one, make sure you crawl under it and check for cracks.
At the start of the video I thought my wife was talking to me.....that’s usually what I hear. Lol
😂😂😂😂😂
is your wife a man?
@@mg6192 Just smokes a lot of cigarettes
@@mg6192 possible, it’s 2020 after all.
@@SpencerLemay LOL!
1:22 Especially on thick metal like this knocks on it with his hand rust begins to fall off
I was going to say that same thing 😂😂
It was leaves blowing in the wind watch pay attention.
The begining is like what it sounds like in my head when i discover new rust.😳
Sand blasting is the best
Corroseal is a great inexpensive rust converter. U have About 2 weeks to add paint over top of it. You should definitely paint over corroseal for the long run. I use epoxy paint from auto parts store in a spray can. Vhr black epoxy (purple can ) works amazing.
Thanks!
A rust converter containing Phosphoric acid? The Phosphoric acid bonds with any iron oxide still present ( Rust ) and changes it chemically into ferric phosphate ( Black Stuff ) which is an inert compound that will absolutely stop any rust coming back
Science! Thanks.
Moisture will find its way, but it will be many years for that metal to fall apart. Metal will contract in winter and will expand in summer leaving micro surface areas exposed to moisture. You can slow down oxidation, but cant completely stop the process
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I agree. Tell that to the guy a few posts up that owns semis and trailers. Apparently, just because you own those things means you know more about science. Lol
looks great i think im going to do this then spray a body underliner on top to protect
+kcwkembm that sounds like a good idea to me. This rust converter works well, but it works even better if she put something over it, and that underliner stuff is perfect.
DO NOT put undercoating over rust, even converted. Undercoating is something that has to be done at the factory on pristine metal for it to have any impact. If you apply it over even a little rust spot it will just hide the cancer until its eaten a hole through the frame.
Doing this exact same thing on the exact same truck. It's a '95 Z71 in full blue, ext cab, short bed.
+BrettK it's a great truck. Doing this to it will make it last forever.
hoohoohoblin yes it will, truck has perfect paint all around, fenders under the trim are getting bubbles and the cab corners are rusting out. Rocker panels are getting there... hood has a couple rock chips but other than that there's not much else to do and the paint isn't faded or scratched. 190,000 miles, drivetrain never touched. We JUST redid the drums for the first time 2 years ago and the vac booster last year.
May have been asked already. Can you apply POR 15 over this and expect good adhesion? And if so, would you want to thoroughly rinse prior to applying POR 15? I know POR makes their own metal prep but I think it's very weak. Great video, thanks!
I don’t know. I’ve never used POR15.
You would use por 15 instead of this not in addition to.
No. You need to clean the metal, then acid etch before you can apply POR-15. You cannot topcoat this with POR-15 or else it will flake off
Do I have to paint it after? If I'm happy with the black color, can I just leave it as is?
It is best if you paint it. After being outside for a little over a year, mine started getting a little bit rusty in spots. The best thing would be to prime it with the stuff, and then paint over with the rust oleum or something else that is tough.
If you're happy with Black, paint it Black !
Looks the same as "KURUST" IN THE UK by hammerite . Used it 25 years ago with a top coat of hammerite paint once curred it worked very well but the rust always slowly crept back , the more rust removed prior to treating the longer it lasted before some rust showed threw ......5 years plus so a great product imho
+Noxious Rooster i’m sure it does work better if you sand most of the rust off. I agree that this is a pretty good product even though it doesn’t last forever. I was pretty impressed that it turned the rust and to paint as well as it did.
Thanks for the reply buddy 0)
Great video it is very helpful i,m messing around with a rusty trailer in a few weeks wish me luck
Cheers
Thank you
You’re welcome
Notice he never sprayed the inside of the box frame. still rusting.
Dude, Thank you, Thank you, Thank you, Ill be sure to buy some of that miracle shit for my rat rod that has sat in a field and that i'm trying to revive.
You’re welcome. This should work for that. There are videos of people painting rusty old tractors with this stuff, and it works. It’s a good idea to put some regular paint over it once it dries.
LOL Wow that looks awesome.
It really does make a difference. Adding another coat of paint on top of it like Rustoleum will make it last a long time.
Been looking at rust conversion paints...thanks for sharing
You’re welcome. The stuff is easy to put on, and it works best if you put a layer of paint on over it. Rustoleum is probably a good way to go.
What I'd do.
Buy some of that acid that removes rust. Spray it inside and outside the frame. Clean it off.
Paint frame
Apply a fluid film or another kind of oil like film over the inside and outside of the frame.
After that all you need to do is re apply the fluid film once a year.
Avoid that rubberized undercoating, it'll just cause the vehicle to rot out faster.
@LAFOLLETTER pretty much addressed all of that in my post.
How to paint over rust.
Step 1 - dont
Andrew Stewart step 1: remove rust to bare metal
Lmfao right it’s just like scale as soon as you ding something on the paint that’s over the rust or let a rock hit it then BOOM there goes your seal and it will all fall off lmao🤣🤣
Andrew Stewart super agree , and in my opinion rust encapsulating products are rust trappers I don’t care how much methyl di isocyanate they put in the paints and encapsulated products . Mechanically remove the rust ,chemically clean the bare metal prime with primer zinc rich is best and apply several coats of rust paint let dry and then undercoat let dry then spray with environmentally friendly chain bar oil and veg / corn /canola oil the entire body and frame inner box tail gate doors floors lines and line retainers ,fenders ,rad mount don’t get any on breaks or rotors , drums, engine and not on exhaust components or catalytic converters on manifolds or headers or header wrap as it could ignite I wet all rags from clean up in water to prevent spontaneous combustion as you would using linseed oil in wood refinishing then dispose of soaking wet
... or don't need to. Many just want to extend the life of the vehicle while making it look better. Not trying to get 20 more years out of it.
@@samdamico6948 same fucking thing with powder coating,so what now?
Pettit rustlok paint right over rust use it on my 1947 steelcraft all steel boat works under water best primer I found
This stops or conserve the rust? No need to take off some rust before using this? After this product do you paint?