Shocking situation, Jimmy. As long as the vehicle has been properly serviced in accordance with manufacturer schedule and standards, then this owner with the help of a solicitor, should pursue a claim under the Consumer Rights Act 2015 for not meeting the "reasonable durability" test. I would also suggest lodging his details with the solicitors Milberg London who are preparing a class action claim against JLR for a variety of defective components.
@@timbo19751975 Really? Have you owned a JLR vehicle? JLR paid out over £3000 to repair the inlet manifold on my X351 Jag XJL diesel, which was 6 months outside Warranty and had more miles on it than the Space Shuttle. I think you are getting mixed up with Mercedes, BMW and Audi. All of whom I have had issues getting them to fix problems, they prefer to kick the problem down the road till the warranty is up.
The motoring press at launch were suggesting the Ingenuim was the most reliable best tested European Diesel ever manufactured 🤣🤣 As turned out it's a complete POS .
Everything the motoring media test is the best looking, most reliable, best handling, great performance, and exceptionally economical car on the market. Almost like they're getting paid for the write up, which of course they are, just not directly.
Hi Jimmy been Subbed for a few weeks now and I’m horrified at the incompetence of some Main Dealers. I have 2016 Evoque with Ingenium engine, thankfully it runs perfectly. 71k and only had regular servicing which is basically once a year. I use an Independent mechanic owned garage. Owner was a Senior LR Technician. I’ve had preventative maintenance carried out, Haldex and auto trans fluid changed at 50k. It’s great to know people like you are out there. Thanks for making the vlogs I’m learning quickly.
If your mileage is around 6- 7000 miles per year, then an oil change at this interval is ok. If it's more than 8000 miles, then your engine is on borrowed time.
Hi Timbo mileage is 10k per annum, I had the luxury of being able to cycle to work so didn’t use car much except for towing the caravan. I was made redundant due to COVID so now I drive to work, we’ll see how it goes, I’m confident it’ll remain steadfast.
I swear if that mileage is genuine then it proves that 0w/30 oil combined with dpf regeneration is shit. I use 5w/30 in ours and it done 85 k miles now. Sure use 0w/30 if you like parts bills
Millage 100% genuine. Bought it with 22400 miles on it from Bentley Cambridge June 2022 with FJSH for £30k. My wife drove it everyday (same as our previous discovery sport) doing normal everyday driving (school runs, shopping and longer runs at the weekends). Light came on in Jan 2023 and never went off again. Wife got completely sick of the stuttering and it being in and out of garages for 9 months with no solid answer as to what was wrong or how to fix it (it was out of the 6 month warrantee from Bentley when light came on). We had to cut our losses and sell to wbac for £18.5k. Never again will I buy a car with and EGR / DPF on it. It's criminal that they're selling these engines. There should call backs on that engine. Absolutely gutted as we loved the car, the looks, the features etc and it drove perfectly for the first 6 months. Even Jimmy couldn't fix this one!
@sempereadem54eadem64 It's an old saying, Same as "buy a Vauxhall and walk" "Get a mini, they are easier to push" "Get free AA cover when you buy a Landrover" "Buy British buy twice" Those cars maybe owned by different countries now buy they are still rubbish.
@@timbo19751975 And why would you even think a 3 year old privately owned E Pace that would appear to get Dealer Serviced has had a "haircut" And JLR can tell if a car has had a haircut because of the numbers of DPF Regens and the amount of AdBlue that is used. Thats if its even still possible to clock a 2020. Because you can't clock modern BMW and Mercedes. The only option being a Mileage Blocker. I think your comment says more about you than the owner of the E Pace. Because the type of person that clocks a car or fits a mileage blocker does it because they can't afford to run the car and need to minimise depreciation. And those type of people don't spend £3000 at Jaguar Dealers fixing and issue a few months out of warranty. They either trade the car in or burn it
@@bigjmllmao, my brother refused a warranty claim on a Dr's bmw 7 series . Autobox failure.. he rolled it back.. Most cars get clocked under 3 years, the ones that do take it back to dealers for services so book looks legitimate and knock it back the day before. All cars can be rolled back, only because my brother is a master tech and the warranty claim is On his head, he counted the abs module rotations.. People who have money roll them back, as money is there god. Don't want to loose a penny..
Cannot believe how many naïve people are still out there buying Jags and Land/Range Rovers. They are utter junk. These Ingenium engines are unbelievable. Stick to the servicing and even let Jaguar do it and they still fall to bits in a few 10s of thousands of miles. On the same par as the petrol EcoPoos. The trouble is, what do you buy nowadays. Direct injection petrols are crap and all the newish diesels are strangled to death with the EURO 5, 6 and soon 7 rubbish. I suppose their plan to stop private car ownership is being helped along nicely. Take my advice, start drinking heavily. Won't be long before they stop that totally. Well, for us underlings anyway.
In there terms and conditions they have a clause, where they can come back.. (iv) you have disclosed to us all matters which a prudent purchaser would want to know about, such as physical defects in the Car (e.g. if it has any material mechanical problems or damage); And then (d) (where appropriate) seek damages from you. And then You will compensate us in full for any losses or costs, including reasonable legal fees, we incur as a result of (i) any breach by you of these Terms; or (ii) infringement of the rights of another person.
JlR deserve to go bust , they have sold cars for year's which are rubbish. All sold on image , sod the crappy engineering that went in to developing these cars
Defo gettibg a good lawyer on that, but first go back to the dealer and give them one more chance, and tell them that you want everything documented for the lawyers(make sure you have all paperwork) But, how can an engine that has done 36k be out of warranty.. madness… stayibg well away from Range Rovers and new Jags, as one chsp said, what a money pit and pile of S these are..
I called Jaguar Brentwood (where we live) and I was informed that I 'bought the wrong car' for our driving style and that if you're not doing 25 - 35k miles a year the EGR / DPF system will continue to fail regardless of any parts you replace! Was quoted £4k to replace the DPF but informed it would crack again if we don't change our driving 'style'. I couldn't believe it. So the EGR / DPF system was designed to cut the NOX emissions but for it to fully function you have to drive more miles in one year than we normally drive in 3 years!!🤷🏻♂ I think it's a criminal / not fit for market CHEAT to get around the EU emission regulations so they could continue to sell the cars knowing full well the systems would fail.
what a crap engine and it is shocking for what is supposed to be a premium brand and the service you get does not sound any better from main dealers not saying they are all the same
Shocking situation, Jimmy. As long as the vehicle has been properly serviced in accordance with manufacturer schedule and standards, then this owner with the help of a solicitor, should pursue a claim under the Consumer Rights Act 2015 for not meeting the "reasonable durability" test. I would also suggest lodging his details with the solicitors Milberg London who are preparing a class action claim against JLR for a variety of defective components.
Agree, but JLR are experts at deigning all claims
@@timbo19751975 Really?
Have you owned a JLR vehicle?
JLR paid out over £3000 to repair the inlet manifold on my X351 Jag XJL diesel, which was 6 months outside Warranty and had more miles on it than the Space Shuttle.
I think you are getting mixed up with Mercedes, BMW and Audi.
All of whom I have had issues getting them to fix problems, they prefer to kick the problem down the road till the warranty is up.
No such thing as a Class Action Lawsuit in the UK.
Good call. It is of course a Group Litigation Order (GLO). Mea culpa. The same in all but name. 😉
@@rafflesnh Their case is for DPF Failures.
Not engine wear.
Unless they have added something since I read about them on the Discovery Sport forum.
What a great mechanic you are.
I shall be using you.
Even though your 110 miles away.
You know your onions mate
The motoring press at launch were suggesting the Ingenuim was the most reliable best tested European Diesel ever manufactured 🤣🤣 As turned out it's a complete POS .
Everything the motoring media test is the best looking, most reliable, best handling, great performance, and exceptionally economical car on the market. Almost like they're getting paid for the write up, which of course they are, just not directly.
Hi Jimmy been Subbed for a few weeks now and I’m horrified at the incompetence of some Main Dealers. I have 2016 Evoque with Ingenium engine, thankfully it runs perfectly. 71k and only had regular servicing which is basically once a year. I use an Independent mechanic owned garage. Owner was a Senior LR Technician. I’ve had preventative maintenance carried out, Haldex and auto trans fluid changed at 50k. It’s great to know people like you are out there. Thanks for making the vlogs I’m learning quickly.
They seem to be like the K series Rover engine, the odd good one escapes the factory and just keeps going.
If your mileage is around 6- 7000 miles per year, then an oil change at this interval is ok. If it's more than 8000 miles, then your engine is on borrowed time.
Hi Timbo mileage is 10k per annum, I had the luxury of being able to cycle to work so didn’t use car much except for towing the caravan. I was made redundant due to COVID so now I drive to work, we’ll see how it goes, I’m confident it’ll remain steadfast.
Great channel, awsome content and explaination. Every days a learning day with your uploads.
Thank you jimmy 👍👍👍
I appreciate that!
Another one bites the dust!. Shocking quality, assuming the servicing was done.
Wow ! Simply wow !!!!
could a stuck open egr valve cause blowback into the intake ?.
Park it in Luton airport car park next to a Land Rover Job Done
But then it wouldn’t burn because it’s that unreliable 😅
Love your style, your vids, you know your stuff....when you next in Glasgow? Lol
I swear if that mileage is genuine then it proves that 0w/30 oil combined with dpf regeneration is shit. I use 5w/30 in ours and it done 85 k miles now. Sure use 0w/30 if you like parts bills
Millage 100% genuine. Bought it with 22400 miles on it from Bentley Cambridge June 2022 with FJSH for £30k. My wife drove it everyday (same as our previous discovery sport) doing normal everyday driving (school runs, shopping and longer runs at the weekends). Light came on in Jan 2023 and never went off again. Wife got completely sick of the stuttering and it being in and out of garages for 9 months with no solid answer as to what was wrong or how to fix it (it was out of the 6 month warrantee from Bentley when light came on). We had to cut our losses and sell to wbac for £18.5k. Never again will I buy a car with and EGR / DPF on it. It's criminal that they're selling these engines. There should call backs on that engine. Absolutely gutted as we loved the car, the looks, the features etc and it drove perfectly for the first 6 months. Even Jimmy couldn't fix this one!
what a shame for such a nice car to have all the problems 6-7 grand to fix , maybe stay away from jaguar, i bet the owner is pissed....
How can a modern engine be "tired" after 32k miles??
Jaguar: Made in Britain, built to break down.
Well you are wrong there.The E pace is made in Austria
@sempereadem54eadem64
It's an old saying, Same as "buy a Vauxhall and walk"
"Get a mini, they are easier to push"
"Get free AA cover when you buy a Landrover"
"Buy British buy twice"
Those cars maybe owned by different countries now buy they are still rubbish.
Maybe a faulty PCV (positive crankcase ventilation valve ) is causing the back pressure?
That level of blowback?
On a car with just over 30k miles and 3 years old?
Does that really sound likely?
@@bigjml Unlikely to have had a haircut at 3yrs old ???
@@timbo19751975 And why would you even think a 3 year old privately owned E Pace that would appear to get Dealer Serviced has had a "haircut"
And JLR can tell if a car has had a haircut because of the numbers of DPF Regens and the amount of AdBlue that is used.
Thats if its even still possible to clock a 2020.
Because you can't clock modern BMW and Mercedes.
The only option being a Mileage Blocker.
I think your comment says more about you than the owner of the E Pace.
Because the type of person that clocks a car or fits a mileage blocker does it because they can't afford to run the car and need to minimise depreciation.
And those type of people don't spend £3000 at Jaguar Dealers fixing and issue a few months out of warranty.
They either trade the car in or burn it
@@bigjmllmao, my brother refused a warranty claim on a Dr's bmw 7 series . Autobox failure.. he rolled it back..
Most cars get clocked under 3 years, the ones that do take it back to dealers for services so book looks legitimate and knock it back the day before.
All cars can be rolled back, only because my brother is a master tech and the warranty claim is On his head, he counted the abs module rotations..
People who have money roll them back, as money is there god. Don't want to loose a penny..
@@johndavies4644 You can't clock the 7 Series G11/G12.
A MasterTech would know that
You really need to get a front head or a side camera Jimmy. Life would be so much easier.
32k and it's shagged!. Are the valves made of wax?.
Well done Mr 😎
I was considering buying an E Pace, now I am a bit nervous....🤔🤔🤔
Drive her like ye stole her would be my recommendation 😅 that or put a match to her. 💰
Exactly what crossed my mind, nightmare car.
Did you give him directions to the nearest scrap yard?
Cannot believe how many naïve people are still out there buying Jags and Land/Range Rovers. They are utter junk. These Ingenium engines are unbelievable. Stick to the servicing and even let Jaguar do it and they still fall to bits in a few 10s of thousands of miles. On the same par as the petrol EcoPoos. The trouble is, what do you buy nowadays. Direct injection petrols are crap and all the newish diesels are strangled to death with the EURO 5, 6 and soon 7 rubbish. I suppose their plan to stop private car ownership is being helped along nicely. Take my advice, start drinking heavily. Won't be long before they stop that totally. Well, for us underlings anyway.
Hey jimmy do insignia 2 ltr diesel have cracked DPF 2016 sri thanks jimmy great description as always 👍👍
Not common for those to crack a DPF
Nice looking motor, shame about the engine 😂😂😂
Basically it needs a solid remap and all that shit removed
Australia 🇦🇺
We buy any car and wave it goodbye
90% of my customers said thats what they are doing 😅
In there terms and conditions they have a clause, where they can come back..
(iv) you have disclosed to us all matters which a prudent purchaser would want to know about, such as physical defects in the Car (e.g. if it has any material mechanical problems or damage);
And then
(d) (where appropriate) seek damages from you.
And then
You will compensate us in full for any losses or costs, including reasonable legal fees, we incur as a result of (i) any breach by you of these Terms; or (ii) infringement of the rights of another person.
Planed obsolescence
JlR deserve to go bust , they have sold cars for year's which are rubbish. All sold on image , sod the crappy engineering that went in to developing these cars
Honest opinion of the n16a1 civic idtec 1.6?
Who cares?
@@bigjml you my friend.
Defo gettibg a good lawyer on that, but first go back to the dealer and give them one more chance, and tell them that you want everything documented for the lawyers(make sure you have all paperwork) But, how can an engine that has done 36k be out of warranty.. madness… stayibg well away from Range Rovers and new Jags, as one chsp said, what a money pit and pile of S these are..
I called Jaguar Brentwood (where we live) and I was informed that I 'bought the wrong car' for our driving style and that if you're not doing 25 - 35k miles a year the EGR / DPF system will continue to fail regardless of any parts you replace! Was quoted £4k to replace the DPF but informed it would crack again if we don't change our driving 'style'. I couldn't believe it. So the EGR / DPF system was designed to cut the NOX emissions but for it to fully function you have to drive more miles in one year than we normally drive in 3 years!!🤷🏻♂ I think it's a criminal / not fit for market CHEAT to get around the EU emission regulations so they could continue to sell the cars knowing full well the systems would fail.
Time to part-x 😢
what a crap engine and it is shocking for what is supposed to be a premium brand and the service you get does not sound any better from main dealers not saying they are all the same
Hey mate how do i get in touch with you? You number Keeps going on voice mail really need your help