FOUR MAN ENTRY TACTICS - WHAT THE 3 AND 4 MAN DO DURING CQB

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  • čas přidán 14. 10. 2022
  • In this video we discuss the movement and responsibilities of the 3rd and 4th man into the room. For simplicity of explanation on this platform we don’t worry about rear security or other small factors. That might change how that last man behaves, and that may be explained in other videos down the line.
    The key point here is that 3 and 4 check center and scan to their buddies, and assist with anything needed.
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Komentáře • 63

  • @brandongill7125
    @brandongill7125 Před rokem +19

    Not the law and order “duh duh” sound effect on the 4th man entry🤣🤣🤣

  • @JonathanHebert
    @JonathanHebert Před rokem +33

    Love the bloopers. It goes to show you that everything needs to perfected and even then shit can happen. Props to you guys to show it.

  • @prepperbookclub
    @prepperbookclub Před rokem +4

    Thanks for the instruction!

  • @FabUser10
    @FabUser10 Před rokem +3

    Excellent content, as aways.
    Greetings from Brazil

  • @MILSPEC_MEXICAN
    @MILSPEC_MEXICAN Před rokem +5

    Thank you for all the knowledge ! You guys are awesome and we appreciate the work y’all put in to this craft.

  • @Spicydeluxecombo
    @Spicydeluxecombo Před rokem +4

    makes me happy to see another guy who is my size lol( the shorter guy). It's hards to land hits on us lol

  • @arighteousname5882
    @arighteousname5882 Před rokem +4

    Law and order "duh duh". I see what you did there.😂 gotta give the haters something to talk about. Well played sir😂🤙🏴

  • @MrSpicabooo
    @MrSpicabooo Před rokem +2

    Its like a football play. Zone run or playing zone on defense, get to your spot and assess from there.

  • @SudoSolutions
    @SudoSolutions Před rokem +3

    The law and order SE lol.. good stuff though

  • @DJRAJEE
    @DJRAJEE Před 6 měsíci

    Nice

  • @Steve_MP5
    @Steve_MP5 Před rokem +2

    As some one has no training like this I’m curious about soenthing. This may even be covered in “strong wall” as I’m trying to extrapolate off what you said, but what if the room entered has the door up against that wall? That person goes down more to the middle of the room to create space for a 3+ man team? Also, how are things like that adjusted on the fly when the layout of rooms are unknown? Does that have the potential to botch an entry? Or does having an experience team make an situation that pops up easier because you can make adjustments on the fly?

    • @oriontraininggroupllc2782
      @oriontraininggroupllc2782  Před rokem +4

      Corner fed or center fed, the left right movement is a principle, but sometimes having the ability to process and simply get out of the way makes sense too.

  • @ControlledPairsGaming
    @ControlledPairsGaming Před rokem +2

    🤘

  • @tylerclark1801
    @tylerclark1801 Před rokem +4

    I don’t like to assume things so imma ask. Will there be videos on strong walling and points of domination in the manner you briefly refer to in this video?

    • @oriontraininggroupllc2782
      @oriontraininggroupllc2782  Před rokem +3

      No, those are specific doctrines. We teach principles that multiple doctrines are extrapolated from.

  • @tylergarrett4498
    @tylergarrett4498 Před rokem +2

    2rd

  • @chrisengstrom8247
    @chrisengstrom8247 Před rokem +1

    Consider coming off that corner a bit so the four of you can stay online

  • @jamesnichols4807
    @jamesnichols4807 Před rokem

    Im curious. Any security for the entry point? or is that only when you're breaching from the exterior of a building you have security? Bc what I remember doing was essentially the team make a heavy stack entry and the first man button hooks then the second gets the fatal front and 3rd comes in obviously while the other 2 or 3 stay outside and provides security

    • @stevef4930
      @stevef4930 Před rokem +1

      Why not run a tight rear security? That way, once all are in the room, the only rear threat can come through the doorway which minimizes angles of cover. But there could also be many exceptions

    • @immikeurnot
      @immikeurnot Před rokem

      "or is that only when you're breaching from the exterior of a building you have security?"
      Gonna go with "that depends." If you're clearing rooms off a hallway, you need someone watching that hallway. Ditto if you enter a room and it has two more doors besides the one you enter.
      As I've heard many times; situation and terrain dictate. And that's from an old school "flood the room" kind of guy who's got trouble accepting that limited penetration and high port are both not only acceptable, but good.
      Hate to say it, but a ton of life's questions are best answered with "it depends on the situation."

  • @twostangs81
    @twostangs81 Před rokem +2

    L for Love

  • @immikeurnot
    @immikeurnot Před rokem +1

    Wait... L isn't for Loser?
    I thought L was for Loser, referring to how it ends for the enemy.

  • @juanmanuelalonso8907
    @juanmanuelalonso8907 Před rokem

    What do you think of applying limited penetration, like 88 Tactical Trevor Trasher, or modern Israeli penetration like Eli Fieldboy, Project Gecko? Do you think there is less exposure? Cheers!!!

    • @immikeurnot
      @immikeurnot Před rokem

      Just the fact they have a man on the opposite side of the door suggests they're using limited penetration, doesn't it? Typical, traditional room flooding style is a strong side and go.

  • @GTRNights
    @GTRNights Před 5 měsíci +1

    As I always say, better to make an L than take an L.

  • @myrtonen
    @myrtonen Před 5 měsíci +1

    Why does the first guy take the short corner without ever looking at the center of the room, he is vulnerable for a long time.

    • @dothedewinme
      @dothedewinme Před 3 měsíci

      That’s what I was wondering, probably to make sure there’s no hallway or door immediately right there and the second guy behind is already coming through seeing the other corner

  • @willbedone777
    @willbedone777 Před 11 měsíci

    👍👍

  • @anjewblacks3343
    @anjewblacks3343 Před rokem +1

    When will you guys do an impromptu dynamic CQB run on here? Like it’s easy to go slow and make stuff up

    • @oriontraininggroupllc2782
      @oriontraininggroupllc2782  Před rokem +1

      I don’t understand your question

    • @f.t.c5973
      @f.t.c5973 Před rokem +2

      @@oriontraininggroupllc2782 i think hes asking to see you guys do a full speed run of the house as demonstration

    • @anjewblacks3343
      @anjewblacks3343 Před rokem +2

      @@oriontraininggroupllc2782 put all this together so we can see what it looks like at the fastest speed possible

    • @oriontraininggroupllc2782
      @oriontraininggroupllc2782  Před rokem +5

      @@anjewblacks3343 we have content like that coming up

    • @ImperiumLibertas
      @ImperiumLibertas Před rokem +2

      ​@@oriontraininggroupllc2782 I'd love to see some force-on-force action from some professionals.

  • @D_Gappy
    @D_Gappy Před rokem

    America

  • @MrKakemann1
    @MrKakemann1 Před rokem

    Just out of curiosity, are NATO allies welcome to take your courses?

  • @matteomarconi97
    @matteomarconi97 Před 4 měsíci

    Ben Affleck is here!

  • @cosettezosel9716
    @cosettezosel9716 Před rokem

    𝓟Ř𝔬𝓂𝔬𝐒ϻ

  • @gatormcklusky5850
    @gatormcklusky5850 Před rokem +1

    Lmao...I like the 12 year old boy in the tight jeans bests of all ..😉

    • @rlcsgod
      @rlcsgod Před 9 měsíci

      Not too late to delete this

  • @yuval5628
    @yuval5628 Před rokem +1

    goofy pseudoscience

    • @oriontraininggroupllc2782
      @oriontraininggroupllc2782  Před rokem +3

      It’s time tested and proven principles that are taught across multiple branches and LE.

    • @minutemanmedic4143
      @minutemanmedic4143 Před rokem

      Hey man, would you care to explain why? I'd be interested to hear why you think that.