I have a pair of cp12's & was absolutely floored with how amazing they are stand-alone for karaoke gigs. You talked me into getting the elx200-12sp and it really does round the sound out amazingly for a small-medium room with a 30-40 person dance floor! Surprisingly I bought a used ev elx200-10p 10 inch speaker for a floor monitor & it's even louder than the cp12! Thinking of getting 1 or 2 cp8s for floor monitoring for my singers & grabbing another elx200 10p possibly pushing my cp12's out completely. Thanks for all your valuable videos!
I hope my video helped with your buying decision? You made a great purchase! Still after many years K8.2 is one of my favorites. Make sure to register warranty online with QSC, you get an extra year, making full 6 year warranty.
Thank you for the comment about using the speaker for a keyboard, because that’s what I plan to use it for as well as with the guitar (using an amp/cab modeler).
Another reviewer on CZcams wrote: I've read a lot about the QSC K8.2 here, they seem to be great. But I prefer the CP8. Why is that? - No fan which you can hear or that can suck in dirt or break down as a floor monitor. - No high-tech DSP with display which I don't need for my use and that is probably more sensitive than the simple manual controller. - Price half as K8.2. Another wrote: If your current amplification is not very good (like cheap PA speakers or a "keyboard anplifier"), the CP series will be a huge improvement. K.2s are devine, CPs not excellent, but very good.
Thank you, you are right, I just tried it! I never saw the print over input A that says A+C. Still don't know why they did that. If I have a guitar on input A and turn down the gain it will affect my backing tracks on C.
Viewer comment: After doing gigs with 2 K12.2s and the sub I realized I was totally wasting the fabulous low end on the K12.2s, so I sold them and bought a pair of K8.2s. The 8.2s seemed like they were made to go with the sub, better highs and mids than the 12.2s and the lesser quality lows were out when crossed over. The 8.2s have a wider dispersion than the K12.2s which have a longer throw, so they cover more of the room with less volume.
By the way, the EQ settings are just there under the contour control. That bass boost setting that you used to like, that’s the Dance setting. The speech setting is a bass cut.
Thank you for doing this. If you get a chance, you may want to compare the QSC K 8.2 with the Yamaha DXR 8 MK2. Two very competitive speakers. Very similar sounding, though the Yamaha might have better top end. And the Yamaha has 2 dB more of peak output, even though it’ has lower output wattage. I just think you would enjoy the Yamaha. Killer small speakers.
One advantage of the CP8 over the K8.2 is the fact if you want to use an external power source to run without AC I use a 150 watt unit to run the CP8 without issues. To run the K8.2 I use a power source with 400 watts and of course it is much more expensive.
@@havenlane992 I meant it can be run easily on a 150 watt external power supply. I use Beaudens www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07KPYSN3S/ref=ox_sc_saved_image_1?smid=A7190QURUYUTL&psc=1
Excellent rewiew 👍As like your advice. What you have to recommend Bose Sub2 with 2 speakers QSC CP8, 2 speakers QSC CP12 or 2 speakers QSC K8.2? Which of them would be suitable for Bose sub2 version?I will use them for various events from 40-50 to 150 people, for live vocals, playing the accordion and of course for disco, Pop, dance, Latino. How do you think what will be the quality and louder sound for such problems and what would be better combined with Bose Sub2? Thank you very much
Easy answer, K8.2/Sub2! The only reason I would go with the others is if the extra $$$ is an issue. K8.2 has the most power and vocals and accordion will sound much cleaner at volume because of the 2,000 watt amp. K8.2 also has a locking power cord, locking XLR connectors, separate gain control on 1/8" channel, much better DSP, ability to save scenes, 105 degree throw compared to 90 degrees for the other two, a two position pole mount, and a Hi-Z function that boosts the signal for low output devices. I use it for electronic drums. CP8 with Sub2 would be the worst choice.
Just picked up a CP8 for cocktail hrs and studio monitor. Trained Mackie Thump 15A’s and 17 cash. Not a bad deal at all. Cut that deal with Guitar Center. So now I can add that to my CP12’s. I’m all set for now.
They sound almost the same at med to low volume. Only at high volume 100dB+ will the K8.2 sound much better. You need to hear the QSC House Sound in person. Crystal clean high end, little bass which needs a subwoofer.
Hi! Thanks for all this info! I’m a singer songwriter, play on small coffes and bars, only Guitar and Voice (dont need much bass), its k8.2 whitout sub good for me? I played one k8 and love it! Also, do you ever have any problem with it? those problems people are talking about .2’s scared me a lot! Thanks and… sorry about my english!
You don't need a sub for your application. I have had zero problems with my K8.2! 6 year warranty is there. Only thing to consider, there is audible fan noise that is annoying especially while playing quiet guitar. CP8 no fan.
Great review and very helpful. Ty. Is k 8.2 good for larger sized audience as additional sound coverage with 2 pro 32s on the very front and k8.2 may be placing mid way through the ballroom.
How did you know my secret? QSC K8.2 is the perfect aux speaker for the Pro32! It matches the 129dB output of the Pro32. The biggest benefit is QSC has a crystal clear high end that is missing from the more expensive Bose. EQ ing helps the Bose but NEVER equals QSC. CP8 has the exact same sound but at 124dB not as loud as the Pro32 column. Now if you have the cash my ultimate pairing is the RCF TT10 130dB. I have a single TT10, $3,000! I have it paired over a RCF702 12 inch sub. RCF rig on my left/Bose Pro32/Sub2 on my right. Can't begin to tell you the incredible Hi-fi studio monitor sound at 130dB!
Great advise sir. Learning a lot from you. I have F1s that I want to sell because of the weight. I am thinking may be keep two F1s for large gigs or just get QSC k 8.2. Consider RCF may be later. Is it a good idea to keep F1s. Thank you!
@@WWeiss-nv5vz what mixer did you use with pro 32 and RCF TT10 set up. I can imagine incredible sound. I am planning pro 32/ left and right with couple of k 8.2 for even larger sized events. Placing k8.2 further middle of the ballrooms. Small parties with one pro 32. All mixed through T4s. If my client needs more mics or have a musician or two then RCF F 12 XR. Is this any good. Just ordered I can make changes fast. Thanks for your input. I am still figuring out better wedding ceremony and cocktail hour sound. I have one Bose s1 pro. Cocktail hour is usually playing tracks but they can ask me to sing as I have started marketing my singing now. Replacing F1 system.
Next to the RCF TT series which a $3,000 speaker the QSC K8.2 is considered the second best keyboard amp/PA for gigging pros on the Nord Forum. Check it out, 20 page thread! You know how keyboards need a crystal clear full range sound that can cut through drums and guitars in a live situation. Of course if it can do keyboards it is incredible for vocals! ://www.norduserforum.com/accessories-and-amplification-f8/nord-amplification-faq-t16772.html?sid=50e450245ca022b9d420c710fcb012f8
Yes I do, and remember it is easily run off a low power external battery. Mixer preamps will boost volume to its max. For all my testing I never used a mixer and it is plenty loud. If the bars are huge with incredibly noisy crowds, next step would be the QSC K8.2, EV50, Bose Pro16, JBL PRX One. CP8 at 124 dB is as loud as the small column array speakers: Bose Pro8, EV30m, JBL EonOneMk2. Those speakers have the bass that is missing from the CP8. For acoustic music I see that as wasted money and extra weight. All of these are popular at the Acoustic Guitar Forum- www.acousticguitarforum.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=16
Hi, I have the cp8 as a main speaker, and I want to use my bose s1 pro as my monitor, I also purchased a small yamaha mixer mg06x. I play with pedalboard and I use a mic for singing. Could you please tell me how to connect and which cables to use? I never had this sort of gear and I want to make the best of it. Thank you in advance
You probably already found out. But anyway: You feed the monitor from the pre fader aux. That is to control your own monitoring seperately from the feed for the audience.
Hi Bill, any thoughts on qsc cp12? Do you think it would be a step up from the cp8? Also looks like they have the same power consumption so would probably be able to use a 150w power station. It would be for solo acoustic gigs with a Roland spd kick so I think the 12” woofer would sound better. Plus the price isn’t too bad either.
Couple of questions: Are you planning on running the SPD kick directly into the CP12 or going into a mixer first? The reason I ask, I have the SPD Kick! I love it. If plugged directly into the speaker you will not be happy with the gain unless you run that channel on Mic level. I run it through a K8.2 that has a HiZ channel that solves that problem. CP12 doesn't have the HiZ. Best solution is get a CP8 which has plenty of headroom for acoustic and a small subwoofer for the Roland. A dedicated subwoofer makes a huge difference from a 12" top! If you don't want to spend the extra $$$ or carry extra gear then yes, CP12 will outperform the CP8. Higher headroom up to 126dB and goes lower to 47Hz. Note: K8.2 will not run off 150 watt external power, CP12 should.
@@WWeiss-nv5vz hey thanks for the great info! Really helps my buying decision. I was considering going straight to the speaker but I also use the tc helicon play acoustic that I can plug into as well. The cp12 is within my budget and also don’t want to lug around a bunch of gear. They say it’s the size of a 10” speaker so that’s cool. Yeah the SPD kick is a great little stomp box that adds a little percussion to my acoustic sets! Love it! I’m thinking I’m just going to get the CP 12 since it will have the better bass response out of the two CP speakers, I suppose I could always add a sub in the future if I feel it’s necessary. Thanks a lot Bill your awesome and I really learn a lot from your videos!
@@christopheralan6474 Another speaker you should consider - Turbosound iP300 a speaker with better low end response than the CP12. Cp12 goes down to 47Hz. Turbosound 40Hz. CP12 will be considerably louder but I don't know if that would be a factor for acoustic music. iP300 compared to QSC CP12 CP12 has a few advantages: QSC's great 6 year warranty, 1/8" input for phone, old school controls for quick changes without menu diving, EQed for subwoofer out, max volume louder by 4db. Real world testing, even louder than specs indicate. Probably as loud as two iP300's! iP300: More full range/Hifi sound with bass that goes down lower, 120 degree dispersion which results in less stage volume and less volume for audience that is close to stage, longer throw, built in Bluetooth!, App control, Proper EQ with mid control, 3 band EQ on all channels, future firmware updates, $150 less. Check out this video: czcams.com/video/mXaNcpN2CMo/video.html Comes down to personal preference.
@@WWeiss-nv5vz thanks Bill! I watch the video and the ip300 definitely seems like a worthy contender. I actually ended up placing an order for the Cp12. I think I will be happy with it, we shall see. Thanks for all your help!
Which eq/DSP preset do you use for drum playing? I have an Alesis Surge Mesh kit controlling a Steven Slate sampler through Ableton Live. Do you recommend using an interface or should I go direct to aux from my computer?
K8.2 has a very good EQ section but both of these speakers require a subwoofer for full range sound - especially home theatre! They might go down to 50Hz, nowhere near 30Hz .
Hello! Good video, very usefull I have some questions for you, I want to bought a little speaker for my Roland Spd-sx but I've doubs about the volume and low end between these two speakers and the Bose S1 Pro... Wich one of those three speaker do You recomend most for the Spd-sx? Or do you recomend another one? Thanks!!
Glad you liked the video. I also have the Roland SPD- SX. If money is not an object I have and love QSC KW122. Great weighty sound from wooden enclosure but heavy at 51 lbs. Can get away without using a subwoofer, all the rest NEED a subwoofer. Next KSC K8.2 is excellent because it has a High Z function that will give Roland products enough gain without using a mixer. CP8 would work at a much lower volume, no High Z. DO Not get S1Pro for electronic drums! It will bottom out the first time you trigger a kick drum sound at any volume over 85-90dB. If you need battery power all of the QSC will run on external battery power. I can give you recommendations if that is the way you want to go. My mobile electronic drum PA: KW122 over K Sub. You will need a sub!
@@WWeiss-nv5vz hi sir. I want to use roland spd 20 and yamaha sx900 keyboard with singers. Which speaker is best ? Qsc cp series or qsc k series? I thinking to buy qsc cp12 speakers and qsc touchmix mixer 8 channel
@@diujay I also play the Roland SPD20. If you have the extra money K series is a big step up. In a band situation the 2000 watt amp of the K series gives that much more headroom. The one downside of QSC speakers is they get harsh near their max volume. For a live band situation the extra money for the headroom will pay for itself. K series also has a digital DSP/EQ that the CP series lacks.
Hi, I'm very confused, I sing and play electric guitar with a looper. I have the s1 pro that I like but I need something louder and that spreads the sound better. What do you think about headrush 108 or 112? Or I just get qsc?
QSC is many steps better than the best Headrush product! The clarity of QSC for live vocals/guitar is on the Pro level. Headrush has a muddy mid heavy tone in comparison. The QSC has a 6 year warranty! That alone is worth the extra money. K8.2 is the way to go if $$$ is not your deciding factor. It has a larger 105 degree throw than the CP8. CP8 is MUCH louder than the Bose S1Pro. CP8 has a similar tone to the Bose S1. Remember QSC doesn't have reverb. Don't go cheap and buy the Headrush, you will regret it!
@@WWeiss-nv5vz thank you so much for answer! You don't know how much you've helped me with this! So I'll try to get one of the qsc that I can afford and use my s1 pro as a monitor. Do you think it would be a good idea?
No I haven't. At 110dB in the home for the CP8 I figured I'll never need more volume for my gigs. The difference that does stand out, at that max volume even though not clipping, the CP8 is sounding harsh where the K8.2 isn't even breaking a sweat! At lower volumes they sound about the same.
Check out the Nord Forum. Most players might use a pair but a sub is not often mentioned. When you say playing backing tracks, that changes everything! K8.2 are not full range speakers. Adding a good sub makes a night and day difference! Depending on size of room, I would suggest a Bose Sub1 or EV ELX12-SP. Outside gigs or 100+ people go with Bose Sub2. If you want filtering, sub first then monitors. If you want a tad more bass, monitors first then sub. Either way it will sound better. www.norduserforum.com/accessories-and-amplification-f8/nord-amplification-faq-t16772.html?sid=52ea7eef617b81641f1309236cdcbef3 My video, K8.2/Sub2 czcams.com/video/PLT-192t-Wc/video.html
Does the k8.2 perform well in a live band setting with drums? I tried out the CP8 for a rock band show and they were definitely too weak. But I wonder if I need a sub rather than a high watt speaker. Basically would a pair of CP8 and 1 or 2 subs but good enough or would a pair of k8.2 get the job done? My main issue is that everything is going through my PA, no amps or guitar cabs.
Both the CP8 and the K8.2 NEED a sub for full range sound, especially if drums are involved. K8.2 is better but more expensive. Pairing CP8s with a strong sub still won't give you any more dBs than you already heard. You will need a good sub for kick drum. I would go with a Bose Sub2, RCF 702, EV ELX200-12 or QSC KS112. A pair of K8.2's and a good sub is the minimum for live band. You didn't mention budget. K10.2s and a 18" sub would be better. If $$ is an issue check out a pair of Turbosound iP300s. Almost the performance of the K8.2 for a lot less money. Not sure if they will be loud enough though. They have 120 degree dispersion so two speakers will really fill up a large space. Of course sub is required. czcams.com/video/mXaNcpN2CMo/video.html
@@basedkek8297 I just recommended the K10.2 because that was the next step up in price after the K8.2. If you want max volume go K12.2 at 132dB. K10.2 at 130dB probably not very noticeable difference since you will be using a sub. K10.2 has a wider spread 90 degrees vs 75 degrees for the K12.2. Forgot to mention the RCF line. HD10 is supposed to be a great speaker for the money. Yamaha DXR line should also be looked at.
@@diujay CP8 90 degree dispersion, K8.2 105 degree dispersion. If you are using one speaker the higher dispersion speaker will cover a larger audience from left to right.
good morning friend I am interested in the cp8, but I would like to know before buying one of these two if there is a lot of difference in power and sound quality friend that is what I am most interested in knowing, I really want it more than anything for karaoke Do you think that this CP8 DE QSC is useful for me, it is actually for a small space and to share with the family, I hope you can help me
For your use I would not recommend the QSC K8.2 At medium to low volumes it sounds the same as the CP8. K8.2 is only worth the extra money if you are playing at very high volumes over 100dB. The CP8 is perfect for what you are describing, you will be very happy!
@@WWeiss-nv5vz Thank you very much for answering friend, if I already bought it, very kind and I also bought an AKG D5 brand microphone that I read are very good, even much more than the shure sm58. Thank you
Hi, how do these two compare at lower volume? I am looking for a speaker system for livingroom type concerts! Also considering that one has fan and the the other one doesn’t ! Thank again
Fan noise, good point! The K8.2 at low volume will give off audible fan noise, especially at high gain, the CP8 would be better for that application. For live use at high volume you would NEVER hear fan noise. At low volume these speakers sound basically the same. K8.2's advantage is higher head room and more features. Unless you play at 110+dB you won't benefit from the K8.2. Either of these speakers NEED a subwoofer for any type of in house H-i fi listening. I have a lot of suggestions for subs if you don't have one. My ultimate in home combination run from a mixer is the QSC CP8 for those crystal clear highs paired with a Bose Pro8 which has smooth mids missing from the QSC House Sound and 180 degree dispersion that will fill a large house. The ultimate living room concert experience!
Thank you, much appreciated! I am thinking to buy 4 CP8’s , would you agree that it is better to get 4 at lower volume that two at higher if I want to spread the sound more evenly? That way the musicians that are closer to the speakers don’t get overwhelmed….
@@michaelklein4582 Tell me more about your application. So you are talking about live musicians in a home? 4 CP8's would be a waste of money.I take it you will be using a mixer. What instruments and how many musicians? Type of music, only for the home or larger spaces?
Hi, so the room will be approximately 60m2 . There can be anywhere between 2 to 6 musicians. It’s going to be mostly NeoSoul Jazz, songwriters in either guitar or Piano! We will use a electric Drumset, so we can keep the overall volume low! There may a small audience , no more than 15 people! I will use a mixer and will record directly into the DAW. I haven’t decided on the mixer yet, either analog or digital. All of this will also be video recorded!
It is mostly for the purpose of this particular project, but I don’t mind if it also works for other use cases, such as little concerts at small venues!
@@WWeiss-nv5vz Hello Sir, I see You are a Mastermind about speakers. Could you please suggest me which speaker I should buy for small DJ mobile events in Pubs in UK ? Is combination of Boss Sub 1 and Evers 8 good choice ? Or Sub1 and Boss S1 pro together is better choice ? Or qsc k8.2 with something else? Could you suggest something light and mobile with good performance and no price limit?
@@texasranger2398 Thanks for the compliment. Depends if you need battery power. Then EV Everse 8 over Sub1 or EV ELX12 sub is the way to go. Bose S1Pro is a step down. Also depends on crowd size and type of music you play. If you need loud and don't need battery and can handle the weight go with QSC K8.2 over Bose Sub2 or RCF 702 sub which is lighter. CP8 over either of these subs is the next step down if you don't need max volume. czcams.com/video/PLT-192t-Wc/video.html If you don't need max bass the Bose Pro 16 will equal the bass output of the Sub1. Of course my ultimate system if $$$ is not a factor is the Bose Pro32/Sub2. So many choices, but depends on factors I listed above. Get back to me.
@@WWeiss-nv5vz Hi Bill thanks for info. I think Pro32/Sub2 will be good choice. A lot of people have positive opinions about this system. How big is the difference between sub 1 and sub 2 ? I want to be portable as possible.
I think I stressed they basically sound the same. A sound demo would be pointless. The K8.2 gets louder and has more features. Not everyone reads specs.
@@WWeiss-nv5vz That’s a relatively complex issue. 3 dB is a doubling of power 6 dB is a doubling of voltage or sound pressure level (SPL) 10 dB is considered to be, to humans with a non linear sense of amplitude, a doubling of apparent loudness. When expressed as a negative number its the inverse i.e. -3dB is half power -6 dB is half the voltage or SPL
Great video! Highly informative and thank you for not going through a pointless sound comparison on a video! Thank you, Rich
Glad you liked it! Thanks for the feedback.
I was buying my first speaker, and watched all your content. You helped me a lot to choose, I ended up with QSC k8.2. Thank you!!!
You bought the best! I'm glad I was able to help you make the right buying decision.
Thanks for the review and comparison. I have the cp8 and k12.2. I love my cp8. You're right, the cp8 is the best bang for your buck in its category.
I have a pair of cp12's & was absolutely floored with how amazing they are stand-alone for karaoke gigs. You talked me into getting the elx200-12sp and it really does round the sound out amazingly for a small-medium room with a 30-40 person dance floor! Surprisingly I bought a used ev elx200-10p 10 inch speaker for a floor monitor & it's even louder than the cp12! Thinking of getting 1 or 2 cp8s for floor monitoring for my singers & grabbing another elx200 10p possibly pushing my cp12's out completely. Thanks for all your valuable videos!
Glad my video, helped you decide on purchasing the ELX12 sub. Thanks for the feedback!
Thank you for the comparison video and I bought a brand new K8.2 4 days ago and I love it ❤
I hope my video helped with your buying decision? You made a great purchase! Still after many years K8.2 is one of my favorites. Make sure to register warranty online with QSC, you get an extra year, making full 6 year warranty.
Thank you for the comment about using the speaker for a keyboard, because that’s what I plan to use it for as well as with the guitar (using an amp/cab modeler).
QSC K8.2 highly recommended on the Nord Piano Forum for Pro users.
Another reviewer on CZcams wrote: I've read a lot about the QSC K8.2 here, they seem to be great. But I prefer the CP8. Why is that?
- No fan which you can hear or that can suck in dirt or break down as a floor monitor.
- No high-tech DSP with display which I don't need for my use and that is probably more sensitive than the simple manual controller.
- Price half as K8.2.
Another wrote: If your current amplification is not very good (like cheap PA speakers or a "keyboard anplifier"), the CP series will be a huge improvement. K.2s are devine, CPs not excellent, but very good.
The gain control for the C input (1/8" input jack) is the same as the A input on the CP8, so it has one, it's just not dedicated to the C only.
Thanks, another person also commented on that. Thanks for the feedback.
Thank you for the comparison. Just one correction, on the CP8, input C (3.5mm) and input A share the same volume control.
Thank you, you are right, I just tried it! I never saw the print over input A that says A+C. Still don't know why they did that. If I have a guitar on input A and turn down the gain it will affect my backing tracks on C.
@@WWeiss-nv5vz I suppose it's all about keeping the price down.
Very helpful, thanks.
Viewer comment: After doing gigs with 2 K12.2s and the sub I realized I was totally wasting the fabulous low end on the K12.2s, so I sold them and bought a pair of K8.2s. The 8.2s seemed like they were made to go with the sub, better highs and mids than the 12.2s and the lesser quality lows were out when crossed over. The 8.2s have a wider dispersion than the K12.2s which have a longer throw, so they cover more of the room with less volume.
Thx ❤Bill .. great review
Glad you enjoyed it, thanks for your feedback.
Thanks , looks like the K8.2 is what I need
Can't go wrong!
By the way, the EQ settings are just there under the contour control. That bass boost setting that you used to like, that’s the Dance setting. The speech setting is a bass cut.
It says Vocal boost. On my K10 I have both the bass boost and Vocal boost engaged. One boosting bass the other cutting bass - what's left??
@@WWeiss-nv5vz The highs. Vocal boost boosts the mids.
Thanks Bill
Thank you for doing this. If you get a chance, you may want to compare the QSC K 8.2 with the Yamaha DXR 8 MK2. Two very competitive speakers. Very similar sounding, though the Yamaha might have better top end. And the Yamaha has 2 dB more of peak output, even though it’ has lower output wattage. I just think you would enjoy the Yamaha. Killer small speakers.
I've never heard the DXR, but have heard great things about them. Also I believe Yamaha has a 7 year warranty beating QSC's 6 year.
@@WWeiss-nv5vz It’s a little less expensive, too. $650. And built like a tank.
I run a pair of the DXR8’s with a single DXS12 as a small system. It’s great.
@@bennettshapiro7711do you think a dxr8mkii would be just as good as a dbr10 or dxr10/12mkii for just 1 acoustic guitar and 2 vocals? Thanks
Sorry to say there was a QSC price increase today. CP8 went up $20 to $420 and K8.2 went up $50 to $750.
One advantage of the CP8 over the K8.2 is the fact if you want to use an external power source to run without AC I use a 150 watt unit to run the CP8 without issues. To run the K8.2 I use a power source with 400 watts and of course it is much more expensive.
What fo you mean by a 150 watt unit?
@@havenlane992 I meant it can be run easily on a 150 watt external power supply. I use Beaudens www.amazon.com/gp/product/B07KPYSN3S/ref=ox_sc_saved_image_1?smid=A7190QURUYUTL&psc=1
@@WWeiss-nv5vz thanks again sr
@@WWeiss-nv5vz thank you for information
Would the Halo Bolt power the CP8?
Excellent rewiew 👍As like your advice. What you have to recommend Bose Sub2 with 2 speakers QSC CP8, 2 speakers QSC CP12 or 2 speakers QSC K8.2? Which of them would be suitable for Bose sub2 version?I will use them for various events from 40-50 to 150 people, for live vocals, playing the accordion and of course for disco, Pop, dance, Latino. How do you think what will be the quality and louder sound for such problems and what would be better combined with Bose Sub2? Thank you very much
Easy answer, K8.2/Sub2! The only reason I would go with the others is if the extra $$$ is an issue.
K8.2 has the most power and vocals and accordion will sound much cleaner at volume because of the 2,000 watt amp. K8.2 also has a locking power cord, locking XLR connectors, separate gain control on 1/8" channel, much better DSP, ability to save scenes, 105 degree throw compared to 90 degrees for the other two, a two position pole mount, and a Hi-Z function that boosts the signal for low output devices. I use it for electronic drums.
CP8 with Sub2 would be the worst choice.
Have you seen this video: QSC K8.2 over Bose Sub2 czcams.com/video/PLT-192t-Wc/video.html
Hi, how does the current price point of 500$ and 850$ factor into your overall conclusion, especially when compared to other brands! Thanks much!
The Alto TS308 Powered 8 Inch PA Speaker These are pretty good speakers and they thump pretty hard Alto
For $290 can't go wrong! QSC 6 year warranty I think is worth the extra money.
The Alto TS308 THE DRIVERS its Burning. Is very very bad.
Just picked up a CP8 for cocktail hrs and studio monitor. Trained Mackie Thump 15A’s and 17 cash. Not a bad deal at all. Cut that deal with Guitar Center. So now I can add that to my CP12’s. I’m all set for now.
Great rig you got there!
It would be nice to hear how they sound.
They sound almost the same at med to low volume. Only at high volume 100dB+ will the K8.2 sound much better. You need to hear the QSC House Sound in person. Crystal clean high end, little bass which needs a subwoofer.
I have 4 QSC CP8's. Awesome speakers... Great review...
Thanks, Agree at that price point CP8 is #1 Just read about the new RCF HD10MK5 at $500 128dB Have you heard them?
@@WWeiss-nv5vz what you think about the rcf? I had the hd12a they where amazing
@@mrproblemchild88able I haven't heard the lower line RCF. I have the RCF TT10 and a RCF 702 sub which are both incredible!!
@@WWeiss-nv5vz Tt10 😳👍🏾nice I had 705 wasn’t powerful enuff for the music I play but it’s sounded Great and was lite weight
@@WWeiss-nv5vz I haven't heard of those. Have you reviewed those yet?
Hi! Thanks for all this info!
I’m a singer songwriter, play on small coffes and bars, only Guitar and Voice (dont need much bass), its k8.2 whitout sub good for me? I played one k8 and love it!
Also, do you ever have any problem with it? those problems people are talking about .2’s scared me a lot!
Thanks and… sorry about my english!
You don't need a sub for your application. I have had zero problems with my K8.2! 6 year warranty is there. Only thing to consider, there is audible fan noise that is annoying especially while playing quiet guitar. CP8 no fan.
Great review and very helpful. Ty. Is k 8.2 good for larger sized audience as additional sound coverage with 2 pro 32s on the very front and k8.2 may be placing mid way through the ballroom.
How did you know my secret? QSC K8.2 is the perfect aux speaker for the Pro32! It matches the 129dB output of the Pro32. The biggest benefit is QSC has a crystal clear high end that is missing from the more expensive Bose. EQ ing helps the Bose but NEVER equals QSC. CP8 has the exact same sound but at 124dB not as loud as the Pro32 column.
Now if you have the cash my ultimate pairing is the RCF TT10 130dB. I have a single TT10, $3,000! I have it paired over a RCF702 12 inch sub. RCF rig on my left/Bose Pro32/Sub2 on my right. Can't begin to tell you the incredible Hi-fi studio monitor sound at 130dB!
Great advise sir. Learning a lot from you. I have F1s that I want to sell because of the weight. I am thinking may be keep two F1s for large gigs or just get QSC k 8.2. Consider RCF may be later. Is it a good idea to keep F1s. Thank you!
@@WWeiss-nv5vz what mixer did you use with pro 32 and RCF TT10 set up. I can imagine incredible sound. I am planning pro 32/ left and right with couple of k 8.2 for even larger sized events. Placing k8.2 further middle of the ballrooms. Small parties with one pro 32. All mixed through T4s. If my client needs more mics or have a musician or two then RCF F 12 XR. Is this any good. Just ordered I can make changes fast. Thanks for your input. I am still figuring out better wedding ceremony and cocktail hour sound. I have one Bose s1 pro. Cocktail hour is usually playing tracks but they can ask me to sing as I have started marketing my singing now. Replacing F1 system.
@@sazprodj Like you said F1s are heavy! K8.2 at 27 pounds are almost as loud and will actually improve the total sound paired with the Pro32s.
@@WWeiss-nv5vz That’s good to know. Ty
You will absolutely need a mixer for the CP 12 to add highs to the vocal channel. Sounds muffled if you dont
Next to the RCF TT series which a $3,000 speaker the QSC K8.2 is considered the second best keyboard amp/PA for gigging pros on the Nord Forum. Check it out, 20 page thread! You know how keyboards need a crystal clear full range sound that can cut through drums and guitars in a live situation. Of course if it can do keyboards it is incredible for vocals! ://www.norduserforum.com/accessories-and-amplification-f8/nord-amplification-faq-t16772.html?sid=50e450245ca022b9d420c710fcb012f8
Do you think the cp8 makes a good solo acoustic performer speaker?. I play in loud bars often so I need some muscle. Will the CP cut it?
Yes I do, and remember it is easily run off a low power external battery. Mixer preamps will boost volume to its max. For all my testing I never used a mixer and it is plenty loud. If the bars are huge with incredibly noisy crowds, next step would be the QSC K8.2, EV50, Bose Pro16, JBL PRX One. CP8 at 124 dB is as loud as the small column array speakers: Bose Pro8, EV30m, JBL EonOneMk2. Those speakers have the bass that is missing from the CP8. For acoustic music I see that as wasted money and extra weight. All of these are popular at the Acoustic Guitar Forum- www.acousticguitarforum.com/forums/forumdisplay.php?f=16
Hi, I have the cp8 as a main speaker, and I want to use my bose s1 pro as my monitor, I also purchased a small yamaha mixer mg06x. I play with pedalboard and I use a mic for singing. Could you please tell me how to connect and which cables to use? I never had this sort of gear and I want to make the best of it. Thank you in advance
You probably already found out. But anyway: You feed the monitor from the pre fader aux. That is to control your own monitoring seperately from the feed for the audience.
Hi Bill, any thoughts on qsc cp12? Do you think it would be a step up from the cp8? Also looks like they have the same power consumption so would probably be able to use a 150w power station. It would be for solo acoustic gigs with a Roland spd kick so I think the 12” woofer would sound better. Plus the price isn’t too bad either.
Couple of questions: Are you planning on running the SPD kick directly into the CP12 or going into a mixer first? The reason I ask, I have the SPD Kick! I love it. If plugged directly into the speaker you will not be happy with the gain unless you run that channel on Mic level. I run it through a K8.2 that has a HiZ channel that solves that problem. CP12 doesn't have the HiZ. Best solution is get a CP8 which has plenty of headroom for acoustic and a small subwoofer for the Roland. A dedicated subwoofer makes a huge difference from a 12" top! If you don't want to spend the extra $$$ or carry extra gear then yes, CP12 will outperform the CP8. Higher headroom up to 126dB and goes lower to 47Hz. Note: K8.2 will not run off 150 watt external power, CP12 should.
@@WWeiss-nv5vz hey thanks for the great info! Really helps my buying decision. I was considering going straight to the speaker but I also use the tc helicon play acoustic that I can plug into as well. The cp12 is within my budget and also don’t want to lug around a bunch of gear. They say it’s the size of a 10” speaker so that’s cool. Yeah the SPD kick is a great little stomp box that adds a little percussion to my acoustic sets! Love it! I’m thinking I’m just going to get the CP 12 since it will have the better bass response out of the two CP speakers, I suppose I could always add a sub in the future if I feel it’s necessary. Thanks a lot Bill your awesome and I really learn a lot from your videos!
@@christopheralan6474 Another speaker you should consider - Turbosound iP300 a speaker with better low end response than the CP12. Cp12 goes down to 47Hz. Turbosound 40Hz. CP12 will be considerably louder but I don't know if that would be a factor for acoustic music.
iP300 compared to QSC CP12
CP12 has a few advantages: QSC's great 6 year warranty, 1/8" input for phone, old school controls for quick changes without menu diving, EQed for subwoofer out, max volume louder by 4db. Real world testing, even louder than specs indicate. Probably as loud as two iP300's!
iP300: More full range/Hifi sound with bass that goes down lower, 120 degree dispersion which results in less stage volume and less volume for audience that is close to stage, longer throw, built in Bluetooth!, App control, Proper EQ with mid control, 3 band EQ on all channels, future firmware updates, $150 less. Check out this video: czcams.com/video/mXaNcpN2CMo/video.html
Comes down to personal preference.
@@WWeiss-nv5vz thanks Bill! I watch the video and the ip300 definitely seems like a worthy contender. I actually ended up placing an order for the Cp12. I think I will be happy with it, we shall see. Thanks for all your help!
Which eq/DSP preset do you use for drum playing? I have an Alesis Surge Mesh kit controlling a Steven Slate sampler through Ableton Live. Do you recommend using an interface or should I go direct to aux from my computer?
I use Default/Sub setting on the QSC
I can't recommend anything dealing with computer set ups, I go direct from my Roland modules.
@@WWeiss-nv5vz thanks a lot
Do you know if you can use the eq/dsp to boost LF enough for home theater use ( ca 30hz ) ? Cant seem to figuren this out myself.
K8.2 has a very good EQ section but both of these speakers require a subwoofer for full range sound - especially home theatre! They might go down to 50Hz, nowhere near 30Hz .
Hello! Good video, very usefull
I have some questions for you, I want to bought a little speaker for my Roland Spd-sx but I've doubs about the volume and low end between these two speakers and the Bose S1 Pro...
Wich one of those three speaker do You recomend most for the Spd-sx?
Or do you recomend another one?
Thanks!!
Glad you liked the video. I also have the Roland SPD- SX. If money is not an object I have and love QSC KW122. Great weighty sound from wooden enclosure but heavy at 51 lbs. Can get away without using a subwoofer, all the rest NEED a subwoofer. Next KSC K8.2 is excellent because it has a High Z function that will give Roland products enough gain without using a mixer. CP8 would work at a much lower volume, no High Z. DO Not get S1Pro for electronic drums! It will bottom out the first time you trigger a kick drum sound at any volume over 85-90dB. If you need battery power all of the QSC will run on external battery power. I can give you recommendations if that is the way you want to go. My mobile electronic drum PA: KW122 over K Sub. You will need a sub!
@@WWeiss-nv5vz Thanks a lot!
Very usefull information :)
@@eugeniovega1995 Thanks for the feedback! Glad you liked it.
@@WWeiss-nv5vz hi sir.
I want to use roland spd 20 and yamaha sx900 keyboard with singers. Which speaker is best ? Qsc cp series or qsc k series?
I thinking to buy qsc cp12 speakers and qsc touchmix mixer 8 channel
@@diujay I also play the Roland SPD20. If you have the extra money K series is a big step up. In a band situation the 2000 watt amp of the K series gives that much more headroom. The one downside of QSC speakers is they get harsh near their max volume. For a live band situation the extra money for the headroom will pay for itself. K series also has a digital DSP/EQ that the CP series lacks.
Hi, I'm very confused, I sing and play electric guitar with a looper. I have the s1 pro that I like but I need something louder and that spreads the sound better. What do you think about headrush 108 or 112? Or I just get qsc?
QSC is many steps better than the best Headrush product! The clarity of QSC for live vocals/guitar is on the Pro level. Headrush has a muddy mid heavy tone in comparison. The QSC has a 6 year warranty! That alone is worth the extra money. K8.2 is the way to go if $$$ is not your deciding factor. It has a larger 105 degree throw than the CP8. CP8 is MUCH louder than the Bose S1Pro. CP8 has a similar tone to the Bose S1. Remember QSC doesn't have reverb. Don't go cheap and buy the Headrush, you will regret it!
@@WWeiss-nv5vz thank you so much for answer! You don't know how much you've helped me with this! So I'll try to get one of the qsc that I can afford and use my s1 pro as a monitor. Do you think it would be a good idea?
Did you do your own max spl test between the cp8 and k8.2?
No I haven't. At 110dB in the home for the CP8 I figured I'll never need more volume for my gigs. The difference that does stand out, at that max volume even though not clipping, the CP8 is sounding harsh where the K8.2 isn't even breaking a sweat! At lower volumes they sound about the same.
Price
Here we go again - price increase: CP8 $480, K8.2 $820 You guys should have got them when I made this video:(
Do you recommend a Sub for the K8.2? Im a keyboardist/vocalist who uses backing tracks for live gigs. So all the instruments are covered
Check out the Nord Forum. Most players might use a pair but a sub is not often mentioned. When you say playing backing tracks, that changes everything! K8.2 are not full range speakers. Adding a good sub makes a night and day difference! Depending on size of room, I would suggest a Bose Sub1 or EV ELX12-SP. Outside gigs or 100+ people go with Bose Sub2. If you want filtering, sub first then monitors. If you want a tad more bass, monitors first then sub. Either way it will sound better. www.norduserforum.com/accessories-and-amplification-f8/nord-amplification-faq-t16772.html?sid=52ea7eef617b81641f1309236cdcbef3
My video, K8.2/Sub2 czcams.com/video/PLT-192t-Wc/video.html
Thank you sir!! Much appreciated
I might get the QSC KS112 sub
I looked at the KS112 but at 63 lbs was too heavy. Might want to also consider the RCF 702 12" at 46 lbs@@marcbourgeois4133
Does the k8.2 perform well in a live band setting with drums? I tried out the CP8 for a rock band show and they were definitely too weak. But I wonder if I need a sub rather than a high watt speaker. Basically would a pair of CP8 and 1 or 2 subs but good enough or would a pair of k8.2 get the job done? My main issue is that everything is going through my PA, no amps or guitar cabs.
Both the CP8 and the K8.2 NEED a sub for full range sound, especially if drums are involved. K8.2 is better but more expensive. Pairing CP8s with a strong sub still won't give you any more dBs than you already heard. You will need a good sub for kick drum. I would go with a Bose Sub2, RCF 702, EV ELX200-12 or QSC KS112. A pair of K8.2's and a good sub is the minimum for live band. You didn't mention budget. K10.2s and a 18" sub would be better. If $$ is an issue check out a pair of Turbosound iP300s. Almost the performance of the K8.2 for a lot less money. Not sure if they will be loud enough though. They have 120 degree dispersion so two speakers will really fill up a large space. Of course sub is required. czcams.com/video/mXaNcpN2CMo/video.html
@@WWeiss-nv5vz thanks for the quick feedback! I guess if I plan to get a sub, why go with k10.2 over k12.2?
@@basedkek8297 I just recommended the K10.2 because that was the next step up in price after the K8.2. If you want max volume go K12.2 at 132dB. K10.2 at 130dB probably not very noticeable difference since you will be using a sub. K10.2 has a wider spread 90 degrees vs 75 degrees for the K12.2. Forgot to mention the RCF line. HD10 is supposed to be a great speaker for the money. Yamaha DXR line should also be looked at.
@@WWeiss-nv5vz what is the cp8 wider degrees?
@@diujay CP8 90 degree dispersion, K8.2 105 degree dispersion. If you are using one speaker the higher dispersion speaker will cover a larger audience from left to right.
good morning friend I am interested in the cp8, but I would like to know before buying one of these two if there is a lot of difference in power and sound quality friend that is what I am most interested in knowing, I really want it more than anything for karaoke Do you think that this CP8 DE QSC is useful for me, it is actually for a small space and to share with the family, I hope you can help me
For your use I would not recommend the QSC K8.2 At medium to low volumes it sounds the same as the CP8. K8.2 is only worth the extra money if you are playing at very high volumes over 100dB. The CP8 is perfect for what you are describing, you will be very happy!
@@WWeiss-nv5vz Thank you very much for answering friend, if I already bought it, very kind and I also bought an AKG D5 brand microphone that I read are very good, even much more than the shure sm58. Thank you
@@pjmsnca Nice set up!
How many mic can it connect?? I hope no need of amplifier
One mic input.
So I want to get everyone's opinion on here are the 8" really 2000 watts each? I'm thinking about buying some just want to get an opinion first
Most pros don't consider watts. Look at max dB rating.
The best Bluetooth speaker of this size??
EV Everse 8 is the best. They just came out with an Everse 12 but for me too heavy at 31 lbs.
Not sure why they didn't make a EV Everse 10 @@WWeiss-nv5vz
Hi, how do these two compare at lower volume? I am looking for a speaker system for livingroom type concerts! Also considering that one has fan and the the other one doesn’t ! Thank again
Fan noise, good point! The K8.2 at low volume will give off audible fan noise, especially at high gain, the CP8 would be better for that application. For live use at high volume you would NEVER hear fan noise. At low volume these speakers sound basically the same. K8.2's advantage is higher head room and more features. Unless you play at 110+dB you won't benefit from the K8.2.
Either of these speakers NEED a subwoofer for any type of in house H-i fi listening. I have a lot of suggestions for subs if you don't have one.
My ultimate in home combination run from a mixer is the QSC CP8 for those crystal clear highs paired with a Bose Pro8 which has smooth mids missing from the QSC House Sound and 180 degree dispersion that will fill a large house. The ultimate living room concert experience!
Thank you, much appreciated! I am thinking to buy 4 CP8’s , would you agree that it is better to get 4 at lower volume that two at higher if I want to spread the sound more evenly? That way the musicians that are closer to the speakers don’t get overwhelmed….
@@michaelklein4582 Tell me more about your application. So you are talking about live musicians in a home? 4 CP8's would be a waste of money.I take it you will be using a mixer. What instruments and how many musicians? Type of music, only for the home or larger spaces?
Hi, so the room will be approximately 60m2 . There can be anywhere between 2 to 6 musicians. It’s going to be mostly NeoSoul Jazz, songwriters in either guitar or Piano! We will use a electric Drumset, so we can keep the overall volume low! There may a small audience , no more than 15 people! I will use a mixer and will record directly into the DAW. I haven’t decided on the mixer yet, either analog or digital. All of this will also be video recorded!
It is mostly for the purpose of this particular project, but I don’t mind if it also works for other use cases, such as little concerts at small venues!
Which speaker cost double price than qsc k8.2 you talking about at the end?
More than double, RCF TT10 $3,000 each!
@@WWeiss-nv5vz OK thank you.
@@WWeiss-nv5vz Hello Sir, I see You are a Mastermind about speakers. Could you please suggest me which speaker I should buy for small DJ mobile events in Pubs in UK ? Is combination of Boss Sub 1 and Evers 8 good choice ? Or Sub1 and Boss S1 pro together is better choice ? Or qsc k8.2 with something else? Could you suggest something light and mobile with good performance and no price limit?
@@texasranger2398 Thanks for the compliment. Depends if you need battery power. Then EV Everse 8 over Sub1 or EV ELX12 sub is the way to go. Bose S1Pro is a step down. Also depends on crowd size and type of music you play. If you need loud and don't need battery and can handle the weight go with QSC K8.2 over Bose Sub2 or RCF 702 sub which is lighter. CP8 over either of these subs is the next step down if you don't need max volume. czcams.com/video/PLT-192t-Wc/video.html If you don't need max bass the Bose Pro 16 will equal the bass output of the Sub1. Of course my ultimate system if $$$ is not a factor is the Bose Pro32/Sub2. So many choices, but depends on factors I listed above. Get back to me.
@@WWeiss-nv5vz Hi Bill thanks for info. I think Pro32/Sub2 will be good choice. A lot of people have positive opinions about this system. How big is the difference between sub 1 and sub 2 ? I want to be portable as possible.
Can you compare qsc cp12 vs qsc k12 ?
I don't have either. K12 will be louder, cleaner at max volume and has digital EQ.
@@WWeiss-nv5vz thanks for reply sir
K8.2 does have audible fan noise when the music gets soft. CP8 NO fan!
CP8 $500/K8.2 $850
19:58 This needs an actual sound comparison. Almost anyone could read the specs.
I think I stressed they basically sound the same. A sound demo would be pointless. The K8.2 gets louder and has more features. Not everyone reads specs.
3 db doubles
No, 10 dB doubles. When you add a second exact same speaker you usually only get a 3dB volume boost.
@@WWeiss-nv5vz That’s a relatively complex issue.
3 dB is a doubling of power
6 dB is a doubling of voltage or sound pressure level (SPL)
10 dB is considered to be, to humans with a non linear sense of amplitude, a doubling of apparent loudness.
When expressed as a negative number its the inverse
i.e. -3dB is half power
-6 dB is half the voltage or SPL
@@wellnesswisdom-vi2sb Thanks for the education :)