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Hi John and Lisa I Love You Guys and I am Very New to this Aquarium Hobby So I really Need Your Help
So I Got a 6 Gallon Tank Recently Dimensions Are : 15.74Inches x 9.05Inches x 9.84Inches
and I also Got A Good Internal Filter and the Temperatures are also All right as I Live in India my Water Temperature is around 26-28Celcius.
And I Wanna Buy A Beautiful Looking And Hardy Fish.
So can you suggest Me Fish Please
Many Suggested Me Bettas But still I am not sure If I should get bettas or anything else.
Which Fish do you Suggest Me?
And Thx a Lotđ
i didn't see the link to buy discus.
Wait I canât find the discus guys link, btw great video!
@@Covid--be6pi get two pairs of fancy guppies a betta will do fine too
But while getting the guppies look for females
Most Stores don't keep females
@@aniketpatil1452 why don't most stores keep females any particular reason?
I work at a petstore and a customer wanted discus cause her son liked them, she had a 5 gallon tank and complained about having to clean it. Never refused a sale as quickly as that one
Good for you Bobby Mckeel. đđ
Indeed, that would be animal abuse.
Even 1 Discus in a 5 gallon would be inhumane.
@omdarne00 cbc can True, even a 30 would be tight but OP was talking about a 5 so i went with it.
Just sell it to me Bobby, I'm an adult now and my mom don't clean my tank anymore
Whatâs the problem? Donât you love the idea of living in a closet all ur life đ
One thing Iâve noticed about keeping Discus is the more you have the better. I once had three in a tank and the most dominant one killed off the other two. But if you have 6 or more the aggression is distributed out more evenly and not as stressful for the fish, especially the less dominant ones.
Hi Game Changer. Everything you said is accurate in my opinion. I had only 3 discus in a 90 gallon and boy did the dominant one terrorize the 2 less dominant ones. So I set up a 150 gallon 6 foot long with 6 discus and things are going better. I am so tempted to purchase 1 or 2 more. There is still plenty of room for 1 or 2 more. They are constantly spawning. I keep my water parameters good and the temperature at 86 degrees. I also keep my ph steady. It is nice to run into a fellow discus keeper! đđ Sincerely, Marty Borst
I found they did good in a bottle community but even better when it was planted with ro water change
Of all my 23 tanks, my Discus/Angel tank is the one we actually sit in front of and watch every night. Love my Discus!
I have a 75g aquarium beside my computer desk with Discus and Angels.
Being able to glance left and see those beautiful fish is the greatest thing.
Discus are A-holes and bullies but they are the coolest fish ever.
BTW I've been raising Discus for 50 years.
Hi Michael Clark, it is so nice when I hear one of my fish hobbyists family house discus. I keep my 90 gallon and 150 gallon discus in my living room in front of my living room couch. I donât put the t.v. anywhere the tanks. I was told that the constant flashing coming from the t.v. can stress them out. What do you think about that? 50 years...Wow. Thatâs awesome! Sincerely, Marty Borst đ
Hello! Can I raise them with 8.2 ph or 8.3? Please answer to me
I love my discus. I only have two tanks and they are discus. 2 in a 90 gallon because they terrorize any other discus I put in there. So I also set up a 150 gallon 6 foot tank that houses 6 discus. They are constantly breeding. I keep their water clean, set the temp at 86 degrees and a steady ph. I got them from Discus Hans. I want to give John and Lisa credit for that since they did a couple interviews with Hans. Lisa, I just adopted another cat that nobody wanted. Great to be back! Sincerely, Marty Borst đș
Discus are just stunning đ Hella expensive thooo
Yeah but sometimes local shops will have small discuss that I have seen for 50-60 a piece vs the normal 200-300 range I see for fully grown ones
Get them as babies. I've never understood paying so much for a creature more than half way through its life span. Buy them young and keep them for even longer as you raise them.
@@shrekdonkey9551 babies babies babies. Buy them young and raise them for more time with them and more value
Tell me about it, my Orange Marlboro was almost $100 and my Blue Diamond was $130. . . as babies.
But now, as a breeding pair, they are worth at least twice that.
xAkira X, I agree discus are stunning! Sincerely Marty Borst đ
Once we move to our new house that has a 20x40 insulated building Iâm doing at least a 300 gallon discus tank. The building is going to be my reptile/fish room. Iâve dreamt about having a room like it for about 30years
Congratulations. Sounds like it is going to be very nice. Hope everything works out for you.
Discus are one of my bucket list fish. This video does a great job of putting the most important info about discus keeping in a compact way. I especially appreciate the info about German bred fish. My water is 7.8 pH and 150-200 TDS, so it sounds like German bred fish would be the way to go for me.
You are right about the work! I used to keep and breed discus but I stopped about 8 years ago because of the work and time involved. I think there's just as much enjoyment in other types of fish with far less time and effort.
I built my way up to keeping discus. I did research and found that Angel Fish are cousins to the Discus and are a little easier to keep, I started out with 6 quarter size Angels and kept them for about 8 years with great success.... I was very afraid of the price if I missed stepped with the Discus. So after keeping those 6 Angles successfully for over 8 years I went out and got a new tank and 6 discus almost 2 years ago, got 3 and then waited a few weeks and got 3 more. All of them about 2.5 to 3 inches long (2 red pigeon blood, 1 yellow pigeon blood, 1 cobalt blue, 1 red checker, and 1 red eagle) I first fed them 4 times a day and then have now cut back to 3 times a day. I do 1 water change a week at 20% and change the filter once a month. I have just added 3 panda cory's and 3 otocinclus cats and 1 hillstream loach to keep the bottom clean. (Discus are very slow and messy eaters).
Iâm new to fish keeping and actually look forward to doing water changes, itâs something I enjoy doing. I never thought to dislike water changes, before I got into fish keeping I knew thereâs gonna be some work I gotta do to keep a happy and healthy fish.
Man I want a huge blackwater aquascaped tank with Discus and rummynose tetras. Can't wait to have the appropriate tank for that project
A $3 Tiger Barb killing a $300 Discus Theory , makes so much Sense . Haha!
P.S. I love Barbs
I had a school of 9 barbs with my discus and they live together happily never ever the tiger came near my discus for a year now
Thanks, im planning on getting my first big tank, and would love to have some discus, this was very helpful,
Theres a lot of information about when you take Asian discus and German discus and mix them you will get problem. Something about different bacteria. Would be interesting if you could do a show about that.
My discus are 3 years old now and the 2 of them are fine. There isnât much aggression because my angelfish is the king of the tank and anytime the discus start making a scene he always chases them down and breaks it up.
Hi guys, this is the video I was waiting for đ.
I'm from India and my tap water pH level is 8.0 and my discus are happy healthy and growing. So I think pH is not the thing we should be worried about unless you are trying to breed them.
Fantastic content as always.
Your right John, I asked my local discus breeder, an discus produce a special slime coat when breeding fascinating isn't it, nature is awesome â€ïžâ€ïž
Some great points love the discus clips in the video. Canât wait till I get mine Iâve got the tank but got to wait to the new floor to be done before I set everything up but filters all ready running on other tank. Excited đ
Great and true video as always, I have to admit I did chuckle when you said I can't remember ever a fish owner looking forward to doing water changes and cleaning filters let alone new fish keepers. I must be on my own in this regard because when I first got into aquatics that is one thing I was looking forward too aswell as water testing, discus where my first fish and they breed well admittly with a few loses at first of the fry.
Beware everyone. I contracted MTS from this channel! I though I was immune. I only had a single 20G tank; then a 36G, then a 40G, but now I must have my 4th tank. Looking for a 75G /w stand.
Lol I had been happy with my 2 tanks for a while but now I'm getting a 75 gallon đ
Great information for new discus keepers. Thank you
I love these dudes, I have a 75 gallon next to my PC with a small school of discus, an angelfish and 3 red head geophagus. My webcam is angled towards the tank while I sit in front of it so itâs always awesome to be in a discord or zoom call and have that as my background
What's the next one going to be,? We've had bettas and discus. Love all of these videos and keep the series up, its great
While I love looking at Lisa's and other people's Discus - I don't think I'll ever own any. The temperature requirements for keeping Discus happy wouldn't work well with the aquariums I have: planted community tanksđ
Thank you John and Lisa, great information about gorgeous fishđđ
I love these true and false videos đđ
Part of my story as a fish keeper began years ago keeping Jack Wattley discus.
Over 20 years ago, I really got into the hobby Head over heels keeping these amazing fish. The only resources I had was just one aquarium shop in a very small town and as many books as I could find on the subject!! It was very rewarding, but also very stressful because I loved my fish so much and It was a lot of work!! I had them for many years until I had a heater fail.. I have to admit losing my fish was one of the reasons I kind of got out of the hobby for so long!!
I'm so excited to see how much things have changed in the keeping of discus!!
Thank you for sharing, it's really piqued my interest for keeping these fish again!!
Happy discus keeping and
I hope you all have an amazing day!!!đđżđđżđ
Hi Mary Paige Flynn, I remember you stating in Prime Time aquatics that you lost your discus awhile back. I didnât realize you were thinking of getting them again. That would be awesome! Just have a backup plan so you donât lose your discus. A extra heater stored away and something that keeps your heaters running in case of a power outage. I bought a small generator for $450 just a year ago. I realize that is a lot of money. I am definitely not a wealthy man. So what I did was make a generator fund account and put a little money from every paycheck into it. It really adds up after awhile. Sincerely, Marty Borst đ đđ»
@@martyborst5645 Thank you for your wonderful comment Marty đ€ This is why I love this community so much and everything I'm learning here. Honestly not having the resources like we have today is what held me back a lot in the hobby!! You guys have me excited again and I'm waiting to get moved and have the room to get bigger tanks đ It's going to be an exciting time for me knowing I have so many people that can help!! I appreciate the feedback and I hope you have a blessed day!!đđżđđżđ
I finally have my 200 gallon cycling for discus.
Hey!! Just saved your fishes by subscribing!
And thanks for calming down my anxiety about killing my discus because of hard ground water. Just bought my discus(s) sometime back.. Been using RO water for water changes..
I was literally just thinking about a bigger tropical for my tank and was thinking Discus or Angel fish so this helps a lot!
Love to try having discus. They price tag keeps me away.
You can buy juveniles
Great video guys! Iâm starting to stock discus on my store and this helped a ton.
I have a blood red one in my community tank it is thriving
The true or false series is Goated đđplease keep this series lol also, yâall are the best fish channel on CZcams đđœ
Honestly, i have a 110 community aquarium with Discus, Angels, Tiger Barbs and Bueno's Aires Tetra's (all fin nippers) and they're fine. The key that I've found is to get the stocking right, most fin nippers are projecting stress and interspecies behavior onto other species in your tank. You need to make sure you're fin nippers have a large enough population to keep that interspecies behavior contained to their group (in my experience thats 9+ tiger barbs, and 7+ Bueno's Aires. You also need to make sure they have room to escape and places to hide, so they don't stress nip, if your tank is too overstocked, fish get stressed and will be more likely to nip.
I love Lisa and Kevin you two are amazing fish aquarium youtube folks,I love this channel â€
Discus, along with the zebra acara are two of my dream fish that I would simply love to have in a giant and heavily planted aquarium.
Great video Iâve never kept discus but the are beautiful!!
Mine are thriving in a ph of 8 lol warm water
Iâve had one for about three months now and heâs happy and healthy with my angelfish and tetras. Keep them HOT, keep your water super clean, and feed them well. They arenât that hard.
Exactly, Discus like hot, soft, clean water.
@@MichaelClark-uw7ex True! And the captive bred ones are really tolerant of almost any PH so thatâs a big plus, I have relatively hard water and mine is doing great in just plain tap.
@@nsane992002 Back when I started raising Discus in the 1970s it was much tougher to keep them because so few were captive bred so they were a lot less tolerant of water conditions and food.
Back then it was beefheart or nothing, now today they will eat almost anything, my Discus will even eat Tetramin flakes but their favorite is live blackworms.
@@MichaelClark-uw7ex Mine loves Omega One sinking pellets! Let me ask you this, what in the wild were they eating that beef heart was a natural substitute for? Iâve always really scratched my head at that.
@@nsane992002 To be honest, that has always bothered me as well.
In the wild they eat small crustaceans, copepods, mosquito larvae, baby fish, insects, that sort of thing.
I have no idea how the collectors/early breeders came up with the idea to try beefheart.
I heard about it from Dr. Herbert Axelrod's books
Lisa and JohnâŠI appreciate you sharing your knowledge!
I have to dispute Discus is hard work and they must be kept in over 28 degrees! If you look at the Discus kept @ over 28, their gills are working overtime.
IÂŽve over 30 years in the hobby, and if you just want to keep discus, even wildcaught discus will do fine in harder water. Just make the transfer/change to harder water slow (like in acclimatizing them in soft water, then do water changes with harder water). Even wild caught discus might breed in harder water, but the eggs will not develop. Keeping discus in harder water is fine, but when breedng them, they need the lower pH. Also consider how to keep the water clean - the nitrifying bacteria prefer a higher pH. At a pH around six, the nitrifying bacteria will have a hard time. With a pH just above seven, the bacteria thrive. Do not forget plants - floating plants are very efficient in removing ammonia. Ceratopteris is easily controlled, but even with the "nuisance" duckweed, the water quality will improve. This is especially true with soft water.
I want to get a discus so I can call it "Biggus Discus".
Hey John, can you tell us "Why" you have a preference for the German species over the Asian other options?
Also, can you tell us why you personally wouldn't mix the discus from different origins? Assuming buyers are doing their due diligence and quarantining them fish prior to adding them to the school/shoal, they should have adapted to your water parameters by the time they go into the main tank.
What am I missing here?
As always, thanks for the info. You can never get too much, especially when it's coming from people who are successfully keeping them.
I'm just guessing, but I have a feeling it is due to them being raised differently. Lisa mentions that German bred Discus are typically raised in harder water than Asian bred Discus.
â@@ItsExtraCelestialGerman Discus have a much rounder shape apposed to Asian Discus that are more diamond shape!
In Wisconsin anything Asia breed falls apart in are water. This is my experience along with a store I work with. Witch hah make them expensive again because u have to cover the cast of loss
I love discus. If I could I would keep them at some point, but the prize and tank size are way to much for me to even consider it at this point
Now I really want discus, thanks John & Lisa for your encouraging video
Having raised Discus for 5 decades, I can safely say that Discus are a-holes and tank bullies.
But I wouldn't trade them for anything.
I love doing my tank maintenance. I look forward to doing it.
Great vedio!! Please talk about African butterfly fish â€ïžđđ
I would argue that its not that people are too lazy, but for beginners its too difficult to get the perfect water parameters that a discus needs. Maintenance is obviously a huge part of it, but just cleaning the filters and doing water changes wont keep them in the water conditions they need. You should do the same amount of maintenance as you would with any other fish, but granted i am saying all this assuming the person ISNT lazy.
love your work and we agree completely anyone who doesn't love Oscars and Betta's can kiss our "red tail"
Rummynose and Cardinal Tetra in with a group of beautiful Discus, that would be one awesome tank. đ
Where's the link to buy the discus? Awesome video as usual!
I had a discussion pair out of 8 originals. They basically tormented the other 6 so had to sell them. A month later the female jumped out of the tank. Parameters were perfect. Male was lonely so bought 4 youngsters. One ended up pairing up with him. So had to sell 3 fish. Now they both live in a breeding bare bottom tank making babies.
I was always skeptical to get discuss as i thought it is sensitive. 6 month ago i want give a try and bought 4x 2" discuss put into comnunity tank where got rainbows, congo tetra, severum and geos. They are really doing great and active. Now i setup a 150gal tank with 12 beautifull 8" discuss. My water is 6.5ph and temperature maintain between 28-30degC
How are they doing with the Severums?
I haven't commented on a fish channel for months due to burnout. But this video was so spot on for the average discus keeper i just had to applaud the great info for a quick introduction to discus. đđđ
Hello Mark always so wonderful to see you!!! đ I hope you and all your beautiful fish are well my friend!!đ€đżđđżđđ
@@marypaigeflynn4512 hey Mary thanks for your thoughts. I responded to you on the other comment. â€
Hi guys! Thank you for this! For some reason I cannot locate the Hans link.
I always wanted this breed and was told years ago that they were aggressive, should only be kept together and in rain water (soft).... After seeing this video, I am now more happier lol ...
My question is, how often would a water change need to be done? Roughly ..Great video and Thank you guys đđœ
Mine were never aggressive and they are typically kept with docile fish. You might be thinking of cichlids
Im looking at putting a couple in with my anglefish. Update have not found any discus yet but they will be happy because I keep all my aquariums at 82-84
Big tanks, good water, good food, buy healthy fish and they are easy to keep. I love them. They have awesome personalities.
Im moving and just broke down 5 of my 6 tanks. Im planning on setting up one tank (discus) when i move but really having a hard time parting with my dojo loaches. Are my dojos too active for a discus tank?
I saw one website recommend a pH of 4.5 to 5.2 for Discus. I was in shock and never clicked off a website faster
I'm currently cycling a 115 gallon tank and setting up a sump system for these fishys đ
Can't wait!!
Great video here is a topic for you. Do you really need to climatise your fish over long periods depending on the fish.
I have discus fish always got them from the same place when I get the home put bag in the tank water for 10 minutes then scoop them out the bag straight in the tank no issues none of this acclimatise for an hour or so.Just look at how fish are caught in the wild the water parameters are constantly changing from being caught from sea for example to holding tanks then put in bags for shipping you got wee in the bags maybe poo in the bags all this is altering the water parameters then they go to the shop. It's an extremely stressful process. Personally all this about climitising your fish dont make sense considering there journey. Personally as long as your own water parameters are in the range for the fish your keeping I don't see the need. There are people that will disagree but it's common sense.
My dream fish was on my list when i got a 55. But with 8.4 ph out of the tap i have had to back off of the idea. Never see any at stores where i live. Still love to watch them on youtube though. Love this video!
Mine is that high also but their doing well. Only thing I use is a little Seachem neutral regulator 7.0
Thanks mark. Will keep that in mind.
@@DidisFINDen np Debra, I'm not trying to breed them but they are even producing fry in that tap. I was always told the eggs wouldn't even hatch. Hope you get some đ.
i have a 735l fish tank and i do water changes every week 30% is this good for discus ?
I Must Try Breeding Discus .
I've Had No Luck Breeding Shot Puts .
but the discus in the wild swims alongside other popular fish in the same water,
like cardinal tetras or neon tetras, angels etc.etc.
So what's the reason people prefer to keep their discus from the same suppliers? I know we touched on water parameters but that got negated somewhat by the statement that the temperature is the most important thing.
Discuses have no particular environment other than the tank itself. Where they are located is adaptable to your situation. Discus can adapt to almost any environment as long as that environment has consistent elements of traffic, noise and your interaction with your fish. Maintenance, Water changes and feeding are all import activities that build trust. If you are netting your fish and scaring them more than necessary, each time you approach the tank your fish will be suspect about why. If you make the experience a good one you build trust. Plan long term for your fish so that they can continue throughout their life cycle to experience the same environment and not disrupt their life experiences and patterns. This is True with all Tropical fish but some more than others. Discus fish are in that category where great care in planning a safe and stable environment yields the best results. They are not that fragile, they just need your trust. Good Luck!
Hi , need some advice please guys. Got a 300 lt(65 gallon) tank and got a fluval 307 external canister, which filters 1150 lt/ hr, but apparently thats not enough, what filter can I add on to the existing one. Plan to keep discus fishes in there. Please advise as I heard they need calmer outlet.
I'm loving these true or false vids, full of information. Thanks Y'All.
would a water conditioner like api stress coat help with the slime coat recover if they nurse fry?
I am having a custom built tank to get started in the discus fish hobby. I want to have live plants and real tree stumps from a lake as decor. is more important to have a longer wider tank or is it better to have a taller tank. I asking because I wanted it in the corner of my front room I was thinking of 36"x36"x90" is that a mistake? I would like to have a 5 to 6 German discus in the tank with fancy tail guppies and neon's fish too
Very imformative! Thanks!
If we keep discus fish on pellet diet & limit no of fishes to 6 in a 100 gallon setup then we don't need to do frequent water changes. Would once a week water change would do?
great video as always,greets from belgium europe
Would discus thrive in a cylander type aquarium? Or are they more comfortable in a horizontal aquarium?
Thanks for Sharing
please do a video on dwarf gourami.
Great Video Lisa, John
I have one centerpiece discus in my tank, it's not really extra work just the usual water change and tank maintenance
Discus are beautiful Iâm going to add them to my fish room very soon
I love discus but I won't keep them simply because I can't always keep up on water changes, and they are to exspensive to risk it. I'll just stick to angels for my feature fish in my community tank. They are tanks that can handle anything.
I only get mine from Hans. In my opinion they are the best and he is awesome.
The difference in number of water changes is seascape. Plants help keep the water column clean. MD Fish keeps discus with no water changes. It's the difference of livve plants..
sorry to hear about all your fish.
Sounds like the hardest part would be having room for A large enough tank and also the electric bill for heating!!! Maybe someday ill have them, for now ill stick with the shrimp and neon tetras haha
Don't forget the increases in the water bill.đŠđ
Great infirmitive video ,but nothing was mentioned about water changes. I hear they need 2 or 3 time water change( 25 to 50 percent each time) a week. Is that correct?
Whats the best way to transport adult discus when moving?
I have never had discus maybe one day I love the channel
Years ago I bought 2 discus. Both died from hole in the head disease. Seemed to me it was because the parasite was present in those wild caught fish. Just bought 2 discus. I havenât heard of that disease being a problem for years.
Looks like PH adjusting isnât as critical as it once was . My water out of tap is Hard with PH of at least 7.5.
which are more sensitive rams or discus?
I have 2 new discus fish and they hide the 1st day and the next they went to top of the tank and would stay there so I went and got a air pump to get air in and one would stay under my filter and would go sideways. What should I do about that?
I do want to save your fish. Thanks for the infomation.
HOW IM GONNA KEEP PLECOS TO WITH A TEMPERATURE THAT HIGH!?
From where did you buy your discus ? I would love to buy some German discus đ
They do awesome with appisto's