Dealing With Deep Long Term Thrush In Horse Hooves

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  • čas přidán 9. 02. 2021
  • Talking about how to deal with thrush that goes very deep in the horse's hoof. I released this video quite some time ago as a member's only video but I think that everybody should have access to this information
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Komentáře • 88

  • @StableHorseTraining
    @StableHorseTraining  Před 3 lety +22

    His feet cleared out with proper trimming and treatment of the frog in a couple of months and have never degraded since that.

  • @susanflowers7969
    @susanflowers7969 Před 3 lety +9

    So good to hear he’s all better now! Not at all surprising with you at the helm. 😊🌹

  • @DaydreamerLaura
    @DaydreamerLaura Před 3 lety +13

    Excellent remedy!
    Side note: I believe that his sheath is swollen.. My older horse's was swollen a few months back. He had an E. Coli infection. We washed his area inside and out and treated with Ascend (blue and white tub) to treat it.

    • @StableHorseTraining
      @StableHorseTraining  Před 3 lety +3

      Thanks for the tip! I had thought the same thing when I saw him and had asked his vet, but she said it was very normal for him. No problems at all :)

    • @DaydreamerLaura
      @DaydreamerLaura Před 3 lety +3

      @@StableHorseTraining How bizarre! Glad you mentioned it to be on the safe side. I saw you look at it a few times too.

    • @StableHorseTraining
      @StableHorseTraining  Před 3 lety +1

      @@DaydreamerLaura yes, definitely an odd size

    • @jennifergudmundson2277
      @jennifergudmundson2277 Před rokem +1

      I too thought it looks swollen.

    • @LaizyDaisy
      @LaizyDaisy Před rokem

      Cushing’s (PPID) also indicated by the extra flabby sheath.

  • @susanflowers7969
    @susanflowers7969 Před 3 lety +3

    Oops! I thought that you said Luke! Which made no sense to me because I know that Luke is your own personal horse. And you take such good care of your horses. NOW it makes sense!

  • @susanflowers7969
    @susanflowers7969 Před 3 lety +3

    Awe! Poor Luke! Thank goodness you treat your horses so well or he would really have some problems.

    • @StableHorseTraining
      @StableHorseTraining  Před 3 lety +1

      Thanks Susan! but that's not Luke :) Luke is dark brown. This was Skip and he's all better not long after this video.

  • @martineinfrance
    @martineinfrance Před 3 lety +1

    I commented months ago and it disappeared. Thank you for these good news and well done !

    • @StableHorseTraining
      @StableHorseTraining  Před 3 lety +1

      You probably made it over on Patreon and not here?

    • @martineinfrance
      @martineinfrance Před 3 lety +1

      @@StableHorseTraining probably but I know I did, but the most important is the good result.

  • @christinenibblettrealtor-k8056

    Hello, I just found your channel researching thrush. Great video! Clear instruction and excellent explanation. This video was posted two years ago. I'm just curious if you've made any adjustments to your routine? Thanks 😊

    • @StableHorseTraining
      @StableHorseTraining  Před rokem +1

      Not really, I trim a bit better now but otherwise no change so far to the overall process. It's effective and works long term with the trimming

    • @christinenibblettrealtor-k8056
      @christinenibblettrealtor-k8056 Před rokem

      Hi me again. What is the medicine you're using for the heel the frog?

    • @StableHorseTraining
      @StableHorseTraining  Před rokem +1

      ​@@christinenibblettrealtor-k8056 check out this point: czcams.com/video/nvts-Rr8ZkQ/video.html as I talk about everything I do to treat this. I mention I use zinc oxide with copper sulfate crystals mixed in, betadine for cleaning and I use mastitis (which is actual medicine) for the deep crack.

  • @shawna7975
    @shawna7975 Před 3 lety +3

    8:01 ive used apple cider vinegar/ water in soaks. Used epsom salt... thank you for sharing this "members" video. I hadn't heard about the mastitis, before. I would definitely say that my horse has one of the most severe cases thrush I've seen. At the tip of his frogs theres one large crack all way across and is open. I've kept boots on him, and he sleeps on a daybed mattress with shavings in our garage, until his hooves get stronger soles and he can be stabeled in barn again. we turn him out on days its not pouring rain, to keep circulation flowing to heal

    • @StableHorseTraining
      @StableHorseTraining  Před 3 lety +1

      I haven't found ACI soaks effective in my time so far. I've heard it being effective for others but I find it just takes so much longer and the way I do it here is more effective and lasts longer than just messing with the PH of the foot with something acidic. Sorry to hear you're having so much trouble, I hope it all turns out.

    • @shawna7975
      @shawna7975 Před 3 lety +1

      @@StableHorseTraining exactly, I've noticed same. The soaks are best at loosening any feces trapped up in frog, easier to clean out. Also helps with hoof trims.

    • @StableHorseTraining
      @StableHorseTraining  Před 3 lety +4

      @@shawna7975 ah yes, absolutely. I'll soak for sure for those reasons too. In fact last year I built a soaking station just for that very reason! Essentially I can flood the whole floor a couple of inches and the horses just stand there for a bit. Then just quickly drain it out by pulling the plug!

    • @MegaPlucas
      @MegaPlucas Před 2 lety +1

      Shawna how is your horse now?

    • @shawna7975
      @shawna7975 Před 2 lety +2

      @@MegaPlucas he is getting better, thank you💗

  • @MadeleneStJohn
    @MadeleneStJohn Před 3 lety +3

    This is marvelous. Do you think you could do one on thrush and contracted heels? Thanks!

    • @StableHorseTraining
      @StableHorseTraining  Před 3 lety +2

      Those are two different issues. Contracted heels is more to do with very poor trim. I cover some of that in this long live stream I did recently: czcams.com/video/RBTBybLzrH/video.html

    • @MadeleneStJohn
      @MadeleneStJohn Před 3 lety +1

      Darn it. It's giving me "video unavailable." Could be the weather. I'll try again, later. Thanks!

    • @StableHorseTraining
      @StableHorseTraining  Před 3 lety

      @@MadeleneStJohn czcams.com/video/klDTDm5X2aA/video.html this link works for me, let me know!

  • @kkdoc7864
    @kkdoc7864 Před 3 lety +5

    . Thrush is caused by a yeast/fungus called Candida albicans in humans as I recall and is part of normal flora until it proliferates for some reason (often from antibiotic or steroid usage). Why do horses get this? What a great way of keeping the medication in place! Betadine kills everything, is cheap and works well . We use metronidazole, fluconazole, or similar drug for that, too, but way more expensive.

    • @shawna7975
      @shawna7975 Před 3 lety +1

      I've tried the metronidazole

    • @StableHorseTraining
      @StableHorseTraining  Před 3 lety +3

      Thanks Kathy. That's some great information. Why do horses get it? No idea if they get that exactly and "thrush" is just a blanket term used in the horse world to describe destroyed frogs. Horses get this problem usually by standing in their own feces/urine for a long time, lack of movement but most usually by poor trimming and good horse husbandry. This is a human caused problem 100%.

    • @kkdoc7864
      @kkdoc7864 Před 3 lety +1

      @@StableHorseTraining it sounds like thrush could be the same for both species maybe. Really bad diaper rash is caused by yeast (exposure to urine etc) and it develops In dark, damp places on the body not exposed to air.

    • @Weejie2011
      @Weejie2011 Před 2 lety

      @@kkdoc7864 Erm...no. They are not the same. Candida is naturally kept under control by bacteria, whereas equine thrush is generally caused by bacteria.

    • @kkdoc7864
      @kkdoc7864 Před 2 lety

      @@Weejie2011 Not true in humans

  • @MegaPlucas
    @MegaPlucas Před 2 lety +3

    I've been doing the copper sulfate powder mixed with desitin every other day. I treated daily for 2 weeks via Epsom salt/ tea tree soaks because he wouldn't let me near his sulci with a hoof pick at first. It seems to be improving but it will take a while for those cracks to fill in with new tissue.

    • @StableHorseTraining
      @StableHorseTraining  Před 2 lety +1

      Be cautious not to treat too often. Proper trimming is the most vital part of this process, less so than soaks and topical treatments.

    • @MegaPlucas
      @MegaPlucas Před 2 lety +1

      @@StableHorseTraining the farrier is coming Dec 31. Should I back off on treatments? I'm doing every other day now.

    • @StableHorseTraining
      @StableHorseTraining  Před 2 lety

      I think so. But I'm not there and don't know what the environment looks like nor what the hoof looks like. I would usually treat once a week or maybe twice and it's the trimming that encourages the healthy growth and cleans off the bad stuff. Without removal you're just topically treating the bad stuff for the most part, and it's already going to be coming off anyways.

  • @susancroft3734
    @susancroft3734 Před 3 lety +1

    Hi Graeme, In regards to the Sweet Itch he has. Have you ever used Nu-Stock ointment? I believe in it a lot as its very good for skin issues on horses, dogs, cats, humans, etc. Its made with Pine Oil and Sulphur and its very effective. Good Luck.

    • @StableHorseTraining
      @StableHorseTraining  Před 3 lety

      Hmm, I haven't actually. I'll take a look at that. His new owner tried all kinds of things but I don't think I recall that one. Thanks for the suggestion!

    • @debla7370
      @debla7370 Před 3 lety

      @@StableHorseTraining his sweet itch might actually be neck tread worms... join that group on fb... no more swollen sheaths for my guy

  • @missys
    @missys Před 4 lety +1

    So clearly I have never seen a bad case of thrush. I yelled ahhh...when you put the pick into the frog because I knew it shouldn't be like that. Are there prevention methods to stop this from happening? And what signs or symptoms would one look for if it's not a severe case? An ounce of prevention....😊. Glad I know now what to look for when things are bad and what to do! Thanks Graeme!

    • @StableHorseTraining
      @StableHorseTraining  Před 4 lety +2

      I'll do a video on this, those are great questions. Yes, there are ways to not have this happen from the beginning, which is proper hoof care. This horse had many other problems which I'll talk about too.

    • @missys
      @missys Před 4 lety

      @@StableHorseTraining Thank's Graeme 😊 that would be great! I always like to know when it's okay for us to manage it on our own or when it's time to throw in the towel and have the farrier come out.

  • @billysmith5407
    @billysmith5407 Před 2 lety +2

    How often do you change out the cotton? And do you have any recommendations for treating thrush through mud season? Unfortunately from Jan-Mar our paddocks stay pretty muddy.

    • @StableHorseTraining
      @StableHorseTraining  Před 2 lety +4

      Every few days should be fine, but you can do it everyday if you want. Thrush is best treated with proper trimming. A healthy hoof capsule leads to a healthy frog in the end. It's a whole hoof approach every time for me.

  • @catherineramiah5559
    @catherineramiah5559 Před 2 lety +1

    Hi…is there anything you can use to help heal the actual crack in the heal? My horse has exactly the same and the crack doesn’t seem to be growing back together. Any thoughts?

    • @StableHorseTraining
      @StableHorseTraining  Před 2 lety

      Proper trim, maintenance and solid footing are the things that are needed. There is no topical treatment for a tearing of structure. It's a physics thing.

  • @carolynskelly4397
    @carolynskelly4397 Před 2 lety +1

    How often would you do a treatment? Daily or every other day.

    • @StableHorseTraining
      @StableHorseTraining  Před 2 lety

      Once a week maybe. It's the trimming that fixes it and the medicine should work really quick and maintain after that. I think I only did maybe 2 or 3 treatments but trimmed every week and his thrush has never come back.

  • @InFltSvc
    @InFltSvc Před 3 lety +4

    They so willingly give up the foot ! Is this some you train them a long time ?

    • @StableHorseTraining
      @StableHorseTraining  Před 3 lety +1

      No, it doesn't take much at all to get horses to feel safe

    • @InFltSvc
      @InFltSvc Před 3 lety +1

      @@StableHorseTraining I wish U were close to me ..not sure of places like yours take volunteers to work in exchange for the pleasure to be near these beautiful creatures.. I live in Tampa Clearwatwr FL and about an 1-1/2 from Ocala..that’s horse country for FL. But it’s a little to far for me. I drove many times up and down the east coast and they have beautiful horse country in the northern part of FL with huge ranches and well maintained property....

  • @wielandla
    @wielandla Před 2 lety

    My horse is at a new farm and developed thrush. She is in a much smaller flatter. paddock than before. I get over there often but not daily to clean her hooves. I noticed her frogs are not sloughing either.
    I have been treating it with betadine solution 2x a week. Would it help me to move her to a larger field?

    • @StableHorseTraining
      @StableHorseTraining  Před 2 lety +1

      Thrush can be caused by a few things, mostly though it's due to poor trim. You can try to move to a bigger location but it might not solve it at all if the trim remains unhealthy. Something to keep in mind perhaps if you don't see results from changing the environment.

    • @wielandla
      @wielandla Před 2 lety

      @@StableHorseTraining well I do have the option to get a second opinion on the trim. But my farrier has an excellent reputation.

    • @StableHorseTraining
      @StableHorseTraining  Před 2 lety +1

      Ok then. I'll leave it at that.

  • @gutts7433
    @gutts7433 Před rokem +1

    Very informative! I've had my boy since 2008 and we never had to deal with it before this summer, I guess it was all the rain last month or who knows what :( A horse friend of mine recommended a bottle of purple liquid called Thrush Buster. But when I looked at the ingredients it had formaldehyde which is a carcinogen and causes chemical burns. I don't think giving him cancer or burning him to beat thrush is a good trade-off lol, it's even banned in some EU countries. We're on a regular trimming schedule but it's a 7-week cycle since it's what our farrier recommended and has worked for us since we hired him 3 years ago. I guess we need to shorten that at least in the wet months.

    • @StableHorseTraining
      @StableHorseTraining  Před rokem

      7 weeks is double the amount of time that is healthy for a hoof. I would expect your horse is slowly degenerating over time of the 3 years and you're finally discovering the results of that. Wet weather doesn't cause thrush, unhealthy feet do.

    • @StableHorseTraining
      @StableHorseTraining  Před rokem

      and yes, thrushbuster is garbage and a complete and total waste of money. Snake oil.

  • @deancamp6836
    @deancamp6836 Před rokem

    How much water did you use with the betadine?
    Thank you!

  • @pennywebb867
    @pennywebb867 Před 4 lety +3

    Should you sterilize your hoof pick, knife, etc after use?

    • @StableHorseTraining
      @StableHorseTraining  Před 4 lety +5

      not a bad idea, especially if you have to deal with more horses like that. Frogs and soles of horse's feet are not permeable though, so unless you're poking more frogs with your pick, then there is non real chance of harming another horse. Also, what grows in there hates air and dies quickly, so if you don't have a chance to give a solid cleaning, it doesn't stay on the pick anyways. In this case though, I do give a solid cleaning but I don't get too worried for the above reasons, just precautionary more than anything.

    • @pennywebb867
      @pennywebb867 Před 4 lety

      @@StableHorseTraining thanks...

  • @jenniferrydell2733
    @jenniferrydell2733 Před 2 lety +1

    Hey are you going to talk about dealing with thrush,or are you going to show what thrush look like?

  • @eddyirwan82
    @eddyirwan82 Před 2 lety +1

    Hi..if this can cause lameness to the horse?

  • @susanford6926
    @susanford6926 Před 2 lety +1

    What are the signs of thrush?

  • @venicebeachsportsnetwork6677

    Have you ever tried no thrush powder, it comes in a white and red bottle?

    • @StableHorseTraining
      @StableHorseTraining  Před rokem

      Nope. Sounds expensive and probably gimmicky. These are the ingredients supposedly:
      feed grade copper salt(sulfate). Insert: high purity air-floated kaolin clay, Wyoming-grade sodium montmorillonite, bentonite, food grade diatomaceous earth, iron, oregano powder.
      Not something I would use.

  • @clintreed9923
    @clintreed9923 Před 24 dny

    Should try Ricken’s Foot Formula #1 for the best results on thrush

    • @StableHorseTraining
      @StableHorseTraining  Před 24 dny

      Completely unneeded. Just another snake oil product. Do you sell it by chance? Trying to get rid of stock?

  • @OliveDeuce
    @OliveDeuce Před 2 lety

    Does ur horse have cellulitis? Sheath is inflamed and not it is NOT normal. This happens to my horse when he flares up

    • @StableHorseTraining
      @StableHorseTraining  Před 2 lety +1

      Thanks for the concern. This is a well known thing for this horse and a vet has been on top of it for years from my understanding. He's not my horse but when he came here initially I checked in about it too and was told it is his norm.

    • @OliveDeuce
      @OliveDeuce Před 2 lety

      @@StableHorseTraining awe okay, that is good to know. I’ve seen it more common with the older horses, but my horse was the first “young horse” I seen with it. Everyone thought it was Because his sheath wasn’t cleaned yet, but in reality that was just the way his body responded to cellutlis. My vet thinks he actually could’ve gotten the cellutlis from his thrush, so that is interesting how it’s a cycle.
      Good luck and thank u for the informative video, I have been using desitin and antibiotic cream for a few weeks now but not totally sure if it’s working 🤔

  • @TaoYingarrani
    @TaoYingarrani Před 2 lety

    His sheathe looks kinda swollen.

    • @StableHorseTraining
      @StableHorseTraining  Před 2 lety

      Yes it does but supposedly the vet said it was no problem, he's always been like that.

  • @mylittlerebornfarm756
    @mylittlerebornfarm756 Před 2 lety

    What about his sheath?? :Looks swollen., maybe needs a good clean

  • @RaniTanny
    @RaniTanny Před 10 měsíci

    Thanks for your video. Not expert...hoof - especially toes looks unbalanced- as in toe too long- preventing frog to get " massaged" to be healthy ( heal-toe-landing).

    • @StableHorseTraining
      @StableHorseTraining  Před 10 měsíci

      horses shouldn't be landing mostly "heel-toe", they should mostly be landing flat. This isn't a video about trimming but long toes do not prevent heel landing. I've got plenty of other videos about hoof trimming if you're interested. I hope that helps :)