The problem some counterfeit now becoming more advanced and they make it exact replica of DENSO...we are almost helpless sometimes ...why not DENSO sell directly online in each every country with DENSO certified ...all the counterfeit will die at all once...
As a retired OEM parts supplier myself let me shed light here. Main reason most suppliers don't sell direct is parts will disapear from all the parts distributors shelves. Because, why would you stock items you can't sell cause customers buy direct? Then the first time you need a radiator, starter, alt etc asap to get to work tomorrow & you lose your job the third day because your parts not on your doorstep, who will you blame for it all? How pissed will you be because your home was repoed over losing that job all because parts stores don't stock your part, or their gone? We can wait for some parts, eventually parts stores will go as more people buy online anyway. But until then, we better support them more so they are there when we need them. Peace
@@harryballz6358 I paid once from EBay years ago and I believe those plugs were legit from MGK because I drove the vehicle until it reached 200k. My friend held a fake and a real ones and I was hardly noticed the differences. They are all exactly the same to me. They were not any close as this video. I also purchase plugs from OEM Honda online, and I don't think they sell fake plugs. But, those plugs they don't look 100% as in those videos at all. I believe, those Honda online don't intend to sell counterfeit products, unless they want to be out of business!
@@donniev8181 Sorry the Ohm test will not work. Some counterfeit does show the range between 4-5kOhms. The best you can deal with those phugs if you can call the company to have them verify the parts with their 4 digit lot code.
First, thank you because it is the first video that has a very good and detailed explanation, really, thank you very much, very good. And second, I'm going to make a comment that nobody makes, about spark plugs, timing chains, fuel filters, etc. The changes of these articles are based, very wrongly in my opinion, on KM traveled, eg: change the spark plugs every 40,000 km o miles , the distribution chain every 100,000, this is wrong. And I explain why. In cities like Bogota, Buenos Aires, Caracas and I could name many more, one can take hours with the engine running to travel only 30 KM, due to traffic jams, etc.. If this is your case even if the car does not travel many KM, the engine if they are on, with their spark plugs generating spark, with their distribution chain turning, etc. . For these cases, do not be guided by the number of KM traveled because it is a false unit of measure that does not represent the real wear of the spark plugs and these parts. I think it's a very important point that no one talks about in the videos. Moreover, I believe that cars should have a timer or timer that shows how long the engine is running and according to that one should make changes to these products.
Agree. Where is our Federal Consumer Products Division, or the FBI's fraud and counterfeiting Division? It's only getting worse, and the Chinese (CCP) are eating us alive with cheap crap.
I bought some year ago for my jeep and now I’m afraid to install em I have 226K and I feel like I paid too low and they’re fake I’m not gonna use em I’m heading to oreily and cop from them my jeep grand cherokee laredo still running amazing and don’t like the risk of using a fake ones
@@tuantran7494 oh thanks for the heads up. So I'm currently at my mechanic the Denso TT I bought kept jerking . Misfiring . Upon checking he told me they are fake and also not meant for my car. And that the best plugs for my car which is a 2000 sonata is NGK 11. So he's servicing my injectors now. After that we'll go for a test drive to see. But will quickly check the NGK site to confirm if the new ones we just bought are original too
Главные отличия поддельных свечей (в моем случае это DENSO SC20HR11 IRIDIUM) от оригинала такие. Центральный электрод был со следами ржавчины и не имел приваренной лазером иридиевой шайбы/цилиндра, а на боковом электроде была штампованная имитация "вваренного" контактной сваркой диска. Указанные отличия подделки от оригинала можно увидеть только воспользовавшись бинокулярным микроскопом.
There are some Honda online dealerships sell those plugs very cheap too. I can't tell a difference between a fake and a legit sparkplug! They do look the same to me!
I bought 6 denso platinum from Amazon and they all check off but the scratches on the hex failed I tried scratching w pocket knife tip and there’s visible scratches and I only paid $26 for all 6 I’m leaning they’re fake 🥺 and I’m afraid to use them in my 2007 jeep grand Cherokee Laredo w 226K still running good just don’t want to gamble I’m gonna go oreily and buy some from them any suggestions what kind or what brand any suggestions would b greatly appreciated guys ty! jgc laredo limited 3.7 v4 awd 🫡
Ohm test the plugs, oftentimes the Chinese counterfeit plugs will put off numbers far outside spec. Normal ohms for a spark plug should be between 5-10,000 ohms, fake knockoffs will be way outside this range.
I cannot believe they make counterfeit spark plugs.... What is the world coming to. I recently purchased from ebay thinking they were genuine toyota denso plugs after only 2 weeks 1 cylinder started misfiring. Immediately I knew something's not right cause my original ones lasted years and 100K miles. I took the plug out and you can tell right away it's off. Had to go to the dealership and buy 6 more of these and do the spark plug replacement all over again. What a waste of time and money.
@DENSO Auto Parts I bought KJ16CR-L11. The plant code is JD. Is this a legit code? Bought from authorized distributor Advance Auto Parts brick and mortar store in the USA.
@@buddhull i just bought denso iridium spark plugs cheap for like 6 euros and sometimes each and now I'm returning them, good thing i didn't install them. since denso is from Japan and chances to get real ones is low I'll look for bosch ot ngk.
@@difsid569 yes, I got a 4 pack of mismatched Densos (all had the same box but 2 of them were different plug sizes) from a bad source and had a hard time returning them. If I hadn’t put them all next to each other I possibly wouldn’t have noticed.
@@buddhull i bought 4 from Amazon and each one in a box all same boxes, after checking some comments some people said they are fake and one said he contacted denso and after giving them details about these spark plugs they said they are Chinese ones. so I'll not even take the risk to try them I'll just return them and buy bosch or ngk and wanna be 100% sure that they are real ones
@@difsid569 I think that’s the right call. I’ve never regretted doing the same and it’s nice to have confidence in your daily driver’s ignition system… a pretty important piece of one’s vehicle. I drive two older Japanese make cars (a 1992 Nissan and 1999 RAV) and I try and make everything I do with them count so they keep running.
I bought a denso AC condenser and radiator from their authorized dealer, and BOTH were made in china. It was a somewhat red flag but both did fit right, and after two years have been fine. Four years ago, I installed two denso O2 sensors - one was on the way out so I replaced both on the same bank - and one is already going bad. Two other 02 sensors are original Toyota 17 (yes, SEVENTEEN YEARS)/230,000+ miles old. No more denso for me.
don't blame Denso, blame yourself who buy it from unknown retailer. Denso sparkplugs and O2 sensors are often made in Indonesia or Thailand. Does not have to be made Japan. Often made in Japan label is a red flag for fake product.
@@rondhole Your assumption is... well, [ass]umption - I bought questionable denso O2 sensors from DENSO site. Having said that, both radiator and AC condenser are so far fine after five years. Nevertheless, I buy OEM parts from Dubai - 2-3 times cheaper than in the US and delivery is faster than from some alabama.
@@nofyfb123 if you google counterfeit parts in Dubai, then you will find a lot of information. Amayama Japan is a good place and historically reliable source of OEM japanese car parts. Dubai sellers are hit and miss but Amayama, Rockauto, A1Auto, Advanced Autoparts/Carquest, Autozone, etc. are better. We can use Online coupon as high as 50% off from Advanced Autoparts and pick up locally. You get things instaneously. I never have any genuine Denso O2 sensors failure within 15 years/200k miles. The sparkplugs iridium last 120k miles or more. But there are tons of fake Denso iridium in eBay from China and labeled made in Japan. Most of Denso sparkplugs for newer Toyota are made in Indonesia, not Japan. I always buy Denso or NGK sparkplugs from Advanced autoparts with often 20-50% discount and pickup locally. Sometimes the items are in Carquest store too.
absolutely atrocious welds on my iridium electrodes! so bad I dont even wanna risk installing them... they look Worse than the fake example you show here and nothing like the pristine weld on the legit one
Theres another video out there showing a close up of the center electrode, and you can clearly see it wasn't laser welded. It had what looked like epoxy holding the tip in place. We really need a dedicated Task Force to go after the US distributors that are selling these fake products. The Chinese dont care, and know thay are untouchable. But in the meantime we all need to spread the word and post reviews and comments when and wherever we see this counterfeit crap. Multiple bad ebay reviews to a counterfeit seller is a start.
The problem some counterfeit now becoming more advanced and they make it exact replica of DENSO...we are almost helpless sometimes ...why not DENSO sell directly online in each every country with DENSO certified ...all the counterfeit will die at all once...
As a retired OEM parts supplier myself let me shed light here.
Main reason most suppliers don't sell direct is parts will disapear from all the parts distributors shelves.
Because, why would you stock items you can't sell cause customers buy direct?
Then the first time you need a radiator, starter, alt etc asap to get to work tomorrow & you lose your job the third day because your parts not on your doorstep, who will you blame for it all? How pissed will you be because your home was repoed over losing that job all because parts stores don't stock your part, or their gone?
We can wait for some parts, eventually parts stores will go as more people buy online anyway. But until then, we better support them more so they are there when we need them.
Peace
The more Denso shows their mistakes is the better refinement those counterfeit can be!
@@harryballz6358 I paid once from EBay years ago and I believe those plugs were legit from MGK because I drove the vehicle until it reached 200k. My friend held a fake and a real ones and I was hardly noticed the differences. They are all exactly the same to me. They were not any close as this video.
I also purchase plugs from OEM Honda online, and I don't think they sell fake plugs. But, those plugs they don't look 100% as in those videos at all.
I believe, those Honda online don't intend to sell counterfeit products, unless they want to be out of business!
Ohm test the plugs, counterfeits will not be within the 5-10,000 ohms that they are supposed to be.
@@donniev8181 Sorry the Ohm test will not work. Some counterfeit does show the range between 4-5kOhms.
The best you can deal with those phugs if you can call the company to have them verify the parts with their 4 digit lot code.
First, thank you because it is the first video that has a very good and detailed explanation, really, thank you very much, very good.
And second, I'm going to make a comment that nobody makes, about spark plugs, timing chains, fuel filters, etc. The changes of these articles are based, very wrongly in my opinion, on KM traveled, eg: change the spark plugs every 40,000 km o miles , the distribution chain every 100,000, this is wrong.
And I explain why.
In cities like Bogota, Buenos Aires, Caracas and I could name many more, one can take hours with the engine running to travel only 30 KM, due to traffic jams, etc.. If this is your case even if the car does not travel many KM, the engine if they are on, with their spark plugs generating spark, with their distribution chain turning, etc. . For these cases, do not be guided by the number of KM traveled because it is a false unit of measure that does not represent the real wear of the spark plugs and these parts. I think it's a very important point that no one talks about in the videos.
Moreover, I believe that cars should have a timer or timer that shows how long the engine is running and according to that one should make changes to these products.
should be big fine for those who are selling fake denso on ebay and amazon.
Agree. Where is our Federal Consumer Products Division, or the FBI's fraud and counterfeiting Division? It's only getting worse, and the Chinese (CCP) are eating us alive with cheap crap.
the ones i complained about in my post were from amazon and are going back.i wouldnt even screw those into my engine
@@skip741x3 what dealer sent you the plugs? I have some on the way and I am nervous that I tried to save money and trust Amazon.
I bought some year ago for my jeep and now I’m afraid to install em I have 226K and I feel like I paid too low and they’re fake I’m not gonna use em I’m heading to oreily and cop from them my jeep grand cherokee laredo still running amazing and don’t like the risk of using a fake ones
Can Denso creates a website that the customers can verify with a serial numbers?
If they really wanted to help consumers, this one of the surest way to go
@@IsaacAppahK Hello Isaac, the NGK already has a hot line to verify spark plugs for the customers.
@@tuantran7494 oh thanks for the heads up. So I'm currently at my mechanic the Denso TT I bought kept jerking . Misfiring . Upon checking he told me they are fake and also not meant for my car. And that the best plugs for my car which is a 2000 sonata is NGK 11. So he's servicing my injectors now. After that we'll go for a test drive to see. But will quickly check the NGK site to confirm if the new ones we just bought are original too
How can report a store that sells fake spark plugs here in Brasil?
How do you spot a fake Denso youtube channel / site ?
Главные отличия поддельных свечей (в моем случае это DENSO SC20HR11 IRIDIUM) от оригинала такие. Центральный электрод был со следами ржавчины и не имел приваренной лазером иридиевой шайбы/цилиндра, а на боковом электроде была штампованная имитация "вваренного" контактной сваркой диска. Указанные отличия подделки от оригинала можно увидеть только воспользовавшись бинокулярным микроскопом.
There are some Honda online dealerships sell those plugs very cheap too. I can't tell a difference between a fake and a legit sparkplug! They do look the same to me!
Where to buy in nairobi City
Is it true that it can light small LED?
Sorry to dist:sir, may i know the price if command 3 spark plug denso double iridium sk 20 h r 11 please
Please were can I get denso iridium sparkplug in Nigeria?
Ur respond is very appreciate to me
Hey, what plug should I use for Toyota Rav 4 1999 model 3s engine
pk20tr11
Please, spark plugs for Denso are manufactured in Indonesia, with the same performance as mine, manufactured in Japan. Thank you.
I bought 6 denso platinum from Amazon and they all check off but the scratches on the hex failed I tried scratching w pocket knife tip and there’s visible scratches and I only paid $26 for all 6 I’m leaning they’re fake 🥺 and I’m afraid to use them in my 2007 jeep grand Cherokee Laredo w 226K still running good just don’t want to gamble I’m gonna go oreily and buy some from them any suggestions what kind or what brand any suggestions would b greatly appreciated guys ty! jgc laredo limited 3.7 v4 awd 🫡
Ohm test the plugs, oftentimes the Chinese counterfeit plugs will put off numbers far outside spec. Normal ohms for a spark plug should be between 5-10,000 ohms, fake knockoffs will be way outside this range.
How can will get it
I just bought set of 6 from Toyota dealer for $28.
Wow in live in Nigeria where can I get original,
Useful and informative👍👍
Just wanted to know if they're pre- gapped
did you find out? confirm it? i don't have the tester but i do have calipers, gonna try to measure with that
Would rockauto be selling fake ones? I see they have them for sale
No
I cannot believe they make counterfeit spark plugs.... What is the world coming to. I recently purchased from ebay thinking they were genuine toyota denso plugs after only 2 weeks 1 cylinder started misfiring. Immediately I knew something's not right cause my original ones lasted years and 100K miles. I took the plug out and you can tell right away it's off. Had to go to the dealership and buy 6 more of these and do the spark plug replacement all over again. What a waste of time and money.
I stick with Denso and NGK
Acho que uma peça contrafeita não é a mesma coisa que uma peça da concorrência . Não está a falar da mesma coisa,são coisas muito diferentes
@DENSO Auto Parts
I bought KJ16CR-L11. The plant code is JD. Is this a legit code?
Bought from authorized distributor Advance Auto Parts brick and mortar store in the USA.
Ohm test them
Thanks for sharing godless stay safe
Please how can I get the original plug
AutoZone has them.
I really need a genuine plug but am in Africa
That new look box, yellow/blue
Looks fake as hell and cheap, I use 5346 IKH24 and was not the same performance compared to the old model.
Where can i buy original denso spark plugs?
Your local auto shops with proper distribution sources and Rock Auto for online. The worst offenders are retailers like eBay and Amazon.
@@buddhull i just bought denso iridium spark plugs cheap for like 6 euros and sometimes each and now I'm returning them, good thing i didn't install them. since denso is from Japan and chances to get real ones is low I'll look for bosch ot ngk.
@@difsid569 yes, I got a 4 pack of mismatched Densos (all had the same box but 2 of them were different plug sizes) from a bad source and had a hard time returning them. If I hadn’t put them all next to each other I possibly wouldn’t have noticed.
@@buddhull i bought 4 from Amazon and each one in a box all same boxes, after checking some comments some people said they are fake and one said he contacted denso and after giving them details about these spark plugs they said they are Chinese ones.
so I'll not even take the risk to try them I'll just return them and buy bosch or ngk and wanna be 100% sure that they are real ones
@@difsid569 I think that’s the right call. I’ve never regretted doing the same and it’s nice to have confidence in your daily driver’s ignition system… a pretty important piece of one’s vehicle. I drive two older Japanese make cars (a 1992 Nissan and 1999 RAV) and I try and make everything I do with them count so they keep running.
❤
weight of genuine spark plug is heavier
I bought a denso AC condenser and radiator from their authorized dealer, and BOTH were made in china. It was a somewhat red flag but both did fit right, and after two years have been fine.
Four years ago, I installed two denso O2 sensors - one was on the way out so I replaced both on the same bank - and one is already going bad. Two other 02 sensors are original Toyota 17 (yes, SEVENTEEN YEARS)/230,000+ miles old. No more denso for me.
don't blame Denso, blame yourself who buy it from unknown retailer. Denso sparkplugs and O2 sensors are often made in Indonesia or Thailand. Does not have to be made Japan. Often made in Japan label is a red flag for fake product.
@@rondhole Your assumption is... well, [ass]umption - I bought questionable denso O2 sensors from DENSO site. Having said that, both radiator and AC condenser are so far fine after five years. Nevertheless, I buy OEM parts from Dubai - 2-3 times cheaper than in the US and delivery is faster than from some alabama.
@@nofyfb123 if you google counterfeit parts in Dubai, then you will find a lot of information. Amayama Japan is a good place and historically reliable source of OEM japanese car parts. Dubai sellers are hit and miss but Amayama, Rockauto, A1Auto, Advanced Autoparts/Carquest, Autozone, etc. are better. We can use Online coupon as high as 50% off from Advanced Autoparts and pick up locally. You get things instaneously. I never have any genuine Denso O2 sensors failure within 15 years/200k miles. The sparkplugs iridium last 120k miles or more. But there are tons of fake Denso iridium in eBay from China and labeled made in Japan. Most of Denso sparkplugs for newer Toyota are made in Indonesia, not Japan. I always buy Denso or NGK sparkplugs from Advanced autoparts with often 20-50% discount and pickup locally. Sometimes the items are in Carquest store too.
absolutely atrocious welds on my iridium electrodes! so bad I dont even wanna risk installing them... they look Worse than the fake example you show here and nothing like the pristine weld on the legit one
Theres another video out there showing a close up of the center electrode, and you can clearly see it wasn't laser welded. It had what looked like epoxy holding the tip in place. We really need a dedicated Task Force to go after the US distributors that are selling these fake products. The Chinese dont care, and know thay are untouchable. But in the meantime we all need to spread the word and post reviews and comments when and wherever we see this counterfeit crap. Multiple bad ebay reviews to a counterfeit seller is a start.
We're can I get it
I need the denso spark plugs pls we're can I get it
Hm
Nothing bad about Denso.