Fizz Giz Refillable CO2 Bulb
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- čas přidán 20. 08. 2012
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FiZZ GiZ home beverage carbonation kits are priced at $34.95 on their website below. The CO₂ dispenser is virtually indestructible. Full patent disclosure may be viewed at the following links:
www.google.com/patents/USD708708
www.google.com/patents/US9173430
Website: www.fizzgiz.com
eMail: MrFizz@FizzGiz.com
Phone: (409) FIZZ-GIZ
This 16-gram refillable CO₂ bulb design was conceived by a FiZZ GiZ customer whose ingenuity is surpassed only by his creativity and his good nature. His contribution to the open source community makes it possible for all FiZZ GiZ kit owners to access and use cheap, affordable CO₂ anytime anywhere. It only takes about a nickel's worth of CO₂ to refill your empty bulb. This makes your savings roughly a buck-or-two-a-pop. Enjoy. - Jak na to + styl
I have no interest in building one of these, but something about your tools, knowledge, and process was hypnotic.
Watch This Old Tony
Wow, way beyond my ability to make them, but I would buy them in a heart beat. Awesome, you def need to sell these.
archie ball = " i can make a refillable CO2 cartridge."
airsoft dudes= "mine mine mine mine mine mine."
I seen a CZcams post today. They fill the cartridge with black powder and fuse. Pretty powerful detonation.
In the '70s, I had a Daisy 44 pellet pistol. I built a refillable 12 gram cartridge for it with a schraeder valve stripped from a bicycle tube. I placed the valve towards the bottom of the cartridge so that it would protrude through the grip in the empty space behind the tip of my little finger. This way, I didn't have to remove it from the pistol to refill it. I learned to wait for it to come to room temperature before resuming my target practice, since it would misbehave , giving poor accuracy and speed, otherwise. As a machinist, this is an elegant solution. Thanx.
Thx, Russ. Check this one out... czcams.com/video/R5RObSrDlXc/video.html, my latest pressure regulator.
@@MisterFizz
Very interesting seeing this done.
I couldn't use it as it is.
The valve would need to screw into the cartridge with an acceptable compressed gas usage thread.
Glue is not ok.
I'm going to make 10 of these tonight... I have all the tools just laying around
Good tutorial thanks.
Pleasure to listen to.
Original idea is brilliant.
I could see these being useful in hard to get mini co2 bulbs used in seltzer bottles
Freaking genius.. I love his narration.. 💯
very slick. I don't expect to do this myself, so I'll wait for somebody to go into biz selling these. I'll pay a pretty penny and won't mind.
P.S. very smooth camera technique
this is amazing, well done to you sir.
Thanks.
Well done. Just one suggestion:
Use a 3/16" end cutting end mill for the first pass - slowly, and with the
tailstock quill as short as possible. This should make a clean starter
hole with no runout. :-)
Lol.. nice casting. Loved the Happy Gillmore!
A few things could have been done easier but brilliant idea and tough enough for me not to cringe when filling. Thanx for the share
Beautifully done!!!!! Thank you very much sir for sharing.... salute!
tomkian Thanks for the kind remarks.
they need to mass produce these things like yesterday
I wanted. In spite of there being lots of interested in the video and the concept, there were insufficient takers when it came to offering to purchase.
Doug Thomassen but then CO² sellers would lose $$$
WCIS !!! duck them?
They already do, look on ebay you can buy anything you can imagine.
Awsome
Oh yes gonna do that because i have complete factory in my small apartment.
I dont what you are doing or why but I enjoyed it very much.
WOW 8-10 HOURS WAS A LONG TIME TO HOLD THAT UPSIDE DOWN UNTIL DRIED!
Beautiful craftsmanship
Certainly. I suppose there are some paintballers left who use the smaller CO² bulbs.
Mister Fizz
If you produced these for CO2 powered airsoft gun you would be raking in the dough
Good idea, if you have a lathe, although using a threaded valve would be safer
There are 2 pressure vessels: A source vessel and a target vessel (aka 'mother tank' and 'nursing tank'). If the pressure is the same in each, liquid will not flow from one to the other. Chilling the target vessel lowers the pressure inside. Liquid flows from high pressure space to lower pressure space.
So much hard work for few cents,onbeliveable.
In Ñl x8 for 5 euros..
I buy 50 for 35 e and i have all year to shoot.time is gold.
awesome work! you're the best!
0XAN Thanks.
Perhaps silver soldering the valve body in would be safer...perhaps a threaded Schrader valve body.
Hey friend, you did a great job.Could you tell me, what is the name of that cylindrical part used for NRV making or from which machine you removed it from...?
Looks great...can you also pump it up and use air??
Simon: The loader is home-made too.
That was great to watch! Nice work! Can it also be used in a BB-pistol??? I hate throwing them away...
Pretty much any bulb can be converted. Some have converted the small 8g bulbs as well as 12g bulbs.
thank you,it's very well done
Thanks for your kind remarks.
Very interesting! Please clarify one thing: you mention that the valve was made from stainless. Does that mean the valve was made by you, or can it be bought somewhere?
Refillable is worth it.
I didn't know it could be done.
Someday it’ll be available in the market place. I hope 🤞 88 or 90
Great how to. One note 6-32 means number 6 size screw and the 32 means 32 threads per inch.
Yes. Many times since the original making and posting of this video, I've regretted that slop-of-the-tongue. Thanks for watching. If you have more than a passing interest in CO₂, you may be curious to know of this alternative use of compressed carbon dioxide gas: czcams.com/video/nH6a2VL-iK0/video.html
Thanks, I've been looking for a reason to buy a lathe...
No Name Now you've got one. Tell me how things turn out.
@@MisterFizz, Ha. Good one:"Turn" out.
Excellent video! Thanks foe the share !
Glad U-liked it. Here is a use for CO₂ I bet you've not seen... czcams.com/video/nH6a2VL-iK0/video.html
Carbon Dioxide is an incredibly useful substance for so many things. Hope U-like it.
Mike Spike, any chance you could try this with a 12g co2 cartridge that we use with air pistols? Can it use the same valve parts??? I wish I was good enough to do this!
Great guide, very informative.
Glad U-enjoyed it. Regarding CO₂, you may be curious to know of this alternative use: czcams.com/video/nH6a2VL-iK0/video.html
cool mod! i have a refillable with a valve intake on the side dont know if it was custom made.
Please check out my comment. I had modded a Daisy Model 44 (S&W M-29), adding Bondo to the grips etc. as I used it for a target pistol, until only the tip of my finger could move. I'm looking for the pistol, because I left it with my son and when he died, his mother threw out all the things I had asked him to keep until I got back. It was some years ago, but I still hope to find it.
That's incredible
that is a nice co2 cartridge!could you tell me what name is that refill tool?
You should have run some low grit sand paper on the outside of the valve, and the inside of the container mouth so the locktite has something to lock into...
there are allot of painballers like us that would give both there arms and legs for a re-usable co2 bulb
Where would I be able to find the valve that you used???? This will save me so much money a month
give this guy a cookie
Can't say for sure. I didn't procure that one.
I got a bunch of these aluminum tanks for the brown motors that I have worn out. The motors wear out but the tanks last forever. I can not think of any reason that I would rather use one of these steel ones instead of aluminum which is far lighter.
Kurt, sorry, no. As of this date I do not have tooling in-place for this. When I do, I'll let you know.
Should you have included cleaning the capsules out before assembling?
Where do I get the valve? Or do I have to machine it myself? And does this also work with 12g Co2 cartidges for airsoft guns?
This is brilliant
Very nice! Less waste too. How did you make the valve? I would thread the valve just to make extra sure.
Espero que alguém se ofereça para contribuir com uma tradução para o português do Brasil. Ajudará os espectadores no Brasil a entender melhor as instruções fornecidas aqui.
Very interesting, thanks.
I think I'd be a little happier if there was something more than cement holding the valve though.
How about cutting a shallow groove into the valve body and securing it with a roll crimp while the cement is still wet?
I agree. Also, it would seem that if the pin disengaged from the seal or of the seal breaks in half while under pressure, the pin and spring could become dangerous projectiles.
evin if the pin were to pop off the ball would still keep a seal unless inserted into a device like this then it would sinply fall to bottom of the container and work just like puncturing the original
Aaron Fletcher I would certainly hope so, but I wouldn't be willing to bet someone's life (or serious injury) on it for what amounts to a novelty item. If it is refillable CO2, it should have a burst disc.
Refillable CO2 canisters are available as small as 4oz and there are compressed air tanks as small as 13ci.
@@screwsinabell They also use this to bond race car spaceframes together because it's more reliable than welding which would stress the tubes.👍
just a quick note, it's a 6-32 (six-thirty two) screw, not a 6/32 (six/thirty seconds) screw. Have a good one.
Positive Pressure Cylinder Cool.
You're to be congratulated, excellent work I will, with your permission, disseminate and multiply this project among paintball players, which use the same cylinder Co ².
Thank you again.
Andre, I'm happy to hear of your enthusiasm. And please feel free to pass the information conveyed in this video to anyone who might benefit. I don't know much about CZcams. But I hear there are people willing to contribute their efforts in translating closed captioning. I only recently found out how to do closed captioning. So I have done so in the only language I'm competent in - English - and I can barely speak that. I would like to see Brasilian Português and Español translations. I'm thinking of using Google Translate. But I hear it sometimes produces intolerable results. That's something I would like to see. All languages reach someone. I'm not particular and will gladly accept translation assistance from those willing to provide it - regardless of the language. If you know how to reach out for assistance in that effort, that would be a big help.
brother is a very good idea
Would have pushed the plug further and bend the casing Back around it. Saver that way
I don't even know why I watched that. I have no use for it but it was awesome!
Wow! Nice fish you've got there in your avatar, RW. Glad U-liked the vid. Thx 4 watchin'. Although slightly off-topic - but still relevant to CO₂, you may be curious to know of this alternative use of compressed carbon dioxide gas: czcams.com/video/nH6a2VL-iK0/video.html
Great vidio, tell me were did you get the loader? *o*
Look for the contact info in the "DESCRIPTION" above, published on Aug 21, 2012. Hope that helps. Contact MrFizz.
all in all good video I wish I would have seen this video when I play paintball would have been much more economical game good video except I used to use the CO2 cartridges for alternative uses empty ones in a drill I never had a problem drilling them out ever now used a hand drill
That was an "Awesome Video. I really enjoyed the "Tutorial" as well. Too bad Gamo, Crossman, Umarex and the others don't design or sell a refillable 12g co2 cartridge, it will certainly save the environment.
Could you consider KWA ERG MAGAZINE for bolt stop? I have a WA daytona hpa, people who use Tippmann envy the boltstop mechanism.
impressive
I need this for my C02 airguns!!! Whoever has a machine shop - please make these and send me a link to buy it! pleassseeeee!
what is the max price you would pay , and how much pieces would you buy?
@Yavuz Onat 40000cent ? in which currency?
5$
Where do I get the attachment you have, that enables you to fill the 16-gram bulb from the larger CO2 bottle?
I have come into possession of a vintage butane lighter that requires co2 style cartridges that no one seems to sell these days. I wonder if this would be a viable solution
Let's C, shall we? Take 2 snapshots (side view and orthogonal w/ business end nearest camera lens). Take measurements (body OD, neck OD, overall length). Send me the pic's & the dim's. Will C what I can find out 4U and will let U-know what I think with regard to its viability U R wondering about. MrFizz@FizzGiz.com
Just need to find a way to get nos to fill these with
Refillable nangs would be lovely
Hahahahhahaa😂
This is a good example of how we could safe loads of resources and money… BUT companies don´t care because finally they would lose money. Kind of sad…
A very good Video! You should massproduce them.
Can the same process be used to make refillable cartridges for CO2 pellet guns too??
can you fill with ups so less chance of freezing up
Love it, subbed
I appreciate the kind remarks. Listened to Dueling Banjos on your channel, BTW. Hadn't heard it in years (too many, am afraid to say). Although slightly off-topic - but still relevant to CO₂, you may be curious to know of this alternative use of compressed carbon dioxide gas: czcams.com/video/nH6a2VL-iK0/video.html. Dunno what brought you to my video here. Assumed it was because you use CO₂ for something, perhaps.
his voice xD is like the guy making the face gram paser test
Muy buen trabajo e idea, enhorabuena.
zangarrucho318 Gracias, amigo.
Could this idea be used with pellet gun co2?
That's bad ass.. thank you
Thanks for the kind remarks.
OMG that freezer!
Well done
I'm sorry can you tell me all the components of the valve and the size? thanks
The cartrige can explote after several use and damage the gun. or a hand.
how can I make a cap for the co2 cartage that when screwed on, I can pressurize it and when off I can put what ever in it like water.
Contact info is in the "DESCRIPTION" above, published on Aug 21, 2012. Hope that helps. Contact MrFizz.
I wasnt clear if you made those valves yourself? If so, Can I buy a 10 pack from you?
The address is on the side of the FiZZ GiZ co2 dispenser (black banana). The domain is fizzgiz dot com. And the name is MrFizz. So it's MrFizz at ...
great video
That is the smartest thing ive ever seen
Thanks for the kind remarks.
I would have created an internal thread to thread in a car tyre valve in the mouth of the bottle.
Mike Spike spikei honestly really need this I have nothing to do that. I will happily pay for them.
Daniel La Breche Will let you know. If 999 others join you, asking for them, I'll build them.
Mike Spike sounds good or if you build an account on etsy to sell them I could buy 6 off you for 120$ etsy let's everyone sell from all over the world . If you ever do please contact me I currently got a co2 12g hooked up to a 38 ounce tank . But it's so builky and I have a line running to it . Not ideal
+Daniel La Breche OK. Leave your eMail address here: (409) FIZZ-GIZ
Where
show de bola funciona em cilindro de 12g tambem, e quanto custa tem como me enviar uma pago preciso de 5 cilindro
Great, could you do the same thing for a nitrous oxide cartridge?
Should be possible.
Very good video but one smal correction, it's not a 6/32" screw, it's either 3/16" or a 6-32 screw which mean a #6 screw with 32 threads per inch.
BRILLIANT
Using this for my airsoft mauser m712 so I don't need to constantly purchase and throw tons of empty cartridges on the field.
Glad 2 hear it.
very cool
Very interesting... Nice Job! So... you said that the MrFizz could sell the finished valves for us? The worst part of the process is to make the valves itself, if we can buy the valves it make the things easier for a noob machinist like me. Did you know the price for a pack of 10 valves? Thank you!
so genius
Do these valves provide enough output to power a CO² blowback pistol with a refillable cartridge?
Also, wouldn't it be safer to have cut outs in the valve stem and crimp it into the cartridge neck, using the glue as a sealant only?
The force of compressed gas used as a propellant is proportional to the pressure the gas exerts against the pellet or other projectile being fired. Regardless of the gas used (CO₂, air, other), the pressure inside the cartridge bulb is proportional to the temperature of the gas inside the bulb. At the same pressure, and as long as a sufficient volume of gas is allowed to be discharged at the time of firing, the force exerted by the gas against the projectile should be the same from this co2 cartridge as it would be from any other co2 bulb. If you find that a non-refillable commercially available cartridge you've used has sufficient power to do what you've asked, then this refillable bulb will as well. If non-refillable bulbs aren't powerful enough for your blowback pistol, this bulb will not fix that. Hope that's of some use. Here's a use for compressed carbon dioxide gas you've probably never tried... czcams.com/video/nH6a2VL-iK0/video.html
@@MisterFizz Normal one time use bulbs DO work in CO2 guns, but they don't have anything stuck im their neck that could potentially obstruct the flow of CO2 through it and possibly reduce the maximum output to something non-sufficient. That's especially critical for guns that kick the slide back to cycle the gun, like my KWC Desert Eagle. That's why I'm asking. A successful test with that particular gun would indeed mean that most CO2 powered guns would work using CO2 bulbs that have been converted in this way since it's definitely one of the guns that use the most CO2 per shot and thus require a high flow rate.
And I don't think u've answered my question about the seating of the valve yet. With the high pressure inside those bulbs I fear the loctite may not be sufficient to permanently secure the valve and stop it from turning into a high velocity projectile after a whole bunch of refills, since the repeated change in pressure is basically equivalent to repeatedly pushing on the valve from inside. I think crimping the valve in place and using the loctite as a sealant only would be safer than also putting all that pressure on the loctite. Or u could add threading to the valves and cut matching threads into the bulb necks to then screw the valves in,still using loctite as sealant and thread locker.
That's just a suggestion tho, I do have to say I don't really know what that stuff is capable of, it's just the lack of axial supports that makes me think the glue alone could break after a number of refillings.
@@DualDesertEagle You make a good point about having something stuck in the neck that could potentially obstruct the flow of CO2 through it. I never tested a refillable bulb in a pellet gun of any sort. Since your question deserves a real answer based upon firsthand experience, a guess would be unreliable and inappropriate. And I did completely overlook the 2nd part of your Q re: use of glue only to secure the valve body in the cartridge. Oops. After the video was made, we began threading the outside of the valve body and tapping the inside of the cartridge neck with matching threads to provide a more secure connection. The result was a safer implementation, for certain. If the glue joint failed, the shear strength of the threads made for a good backup strategy, providing a pathway for gas to vent and averting a projectile.
@@MisterFizz Good to know, coz if I ever get myself a CO2 powered gun again I'll definitely consider using this system, provided it works. If ur gonna test it I recommend the most CO2 hungry gun u can find to really find out the potential of this stuff.
Where could i find a valve like that?