🇵🇭 World's Best Duty Pistol you've NEVER heard of...AND CAN'T buy | Taurus TS9 vs Taurus G3 Tactical
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- čas přidán 4. 07. 2024
- Lifting the lid on the exceptional story of possibly the world's best duty pistol, the Philippine National Police torture trial winning Bubits designed Taurus TS9.
Photos/Video credits: Taurus, The Truth about Guns, Bubix Bro and The Firearm Blog
The Firearm Blog TS9 story: www.thefirearmblog.com/blog/2...
travisp11 original TS9 video: • The Taurus TS9 is FINA...
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Hello, I have the Taurus TS9 and it is an excellent, accurate and reliable pistol, with an incredible grip. greetings from Argentina!
Excellent, thanks for watching and for the good report! Greetings from Alaska!
Philipines is a recognized refference when it comes to service Pistols testing. If they attest the product, I will gladly bet my life on this product.
Nice that’s good to hear. Thanks for watching
Have to ask, are you serious or being sarcastic ? Honest question
@@s.vernon5118 thanks for asking. NOT serious. I was joking…
Looks great... the slide to frame fit reminds me of the CZ P10F. This would be great for the US market just needs an optic cut.
I think so too, it's already proven
Big fan of Bubits! Sad so many don't know about him and his designs and patents.
HUGE thanks to you for taking the time to enlighten me @FernandoChaves 🙏🏽
20K rounds is sheer MADNESS! I'M GETTING ONE, SAY NO MORE! I'D kill for a two tone one, seriously.
I commented with Travis p11 to check out the new TH series pistols while he was doing a review or cleaning on the Taurus PT-809 and informed him that Taurus was coming out with the TS series as well prior to the release of the TH series in America!
Just noticed the TS9 for sale on buds.
I had one here in Brazil. I sold it to help me buy a SIG (that is very expensive here in Brazil) for my personal defense. But I'm considering buy another one again, for IPSC runs, since my intention is to use something more affordable due to the wear over shooting it too much. It's a great pistol, but mind it was never design to be a conceal carry. It's a better pistol than the G3 BY FAR. Best recoil, best trigger and best handling. The small ejection port really scares at the beginning, but if you be a little more careful when choosing you ammo (this isn't exactly a problem in USA, but here we depend too much on cheaper reloaded ammo), it will not jam easily. All the problems i had with my old pistol was with cheap reloaded ammo. The projectiles was too large, it was not feeding properly.
I really appreciate you taking the time to explain your experience. I wish we could buy it here. Honored to have you watch and comment thank you sir
@@LWRoad Thanks man!
Just now, Taurus is releasing the compact version of the TS9. It increases the chances to export it more. BUT at the same time, we elected a communist president, that is determined to ban weapons here.
It will be a harsh time around here. Hope we talk again with better news.
@@brunoks6951 Yep, our country is in bad hands now, I hope he gets out of office as soon as possible.
@@LWRoadjust picked mine up for 279.99
I am from Brazil and have a Ts9. Its a war tank. Great vídeo. They told something about the deal was not sell the Ts 9 in usa because the bb6. Taurus bought the project,but the bbtech was operating in usa. Sorry my english
Very interesting insights! Also the last video about the Kimber. I recently met Mr. Bubits and got an introduction on the Bubix Bro, my review will be published in a few hours, but in German. Greetings from Vienna 🇦🇹✌🏻
@SAPIENSPARABELLUM Thank you sir, what a treat and honor to have the opportunity to make his acquaintance. I will be sure to subscribe and check out your video. Cheers from Alaska👍🏽
I just picked up the TS9 and can't wait to shoot it. I went on Taurus's website and found no information or accessories. I like that it comes with 2 double stacked 17 round mags, speed loader and 3 different back straps
Good thing you can use 17rd th9 mags!!!
4 back straps, TH9 magazines fit. Galloway ballistic makes an upgraded SS firing pin guide and +3 magazine extensions. I'm trying to find sights, I'd love tritium but would even settle for fiberoptic. Good luck ;)
It looks like it was supposed to be here at the beginning of this month, but I don't find any for sale. I am going to contact my local dealer that comes up in the Taurus dealer search and see if he can order one. I do dig my Kimber Mako as well. Finally got one. It's amazing and dead reliable.
I would love to get my hands on the TS9,,, it would be a hit here in the US. The slide to frame fit is great and the Arex delta has that fit and it’s a nice pistol.
Definitely @Jeff
The ts9 has much less recoil than the arex delta.
@@marciomeira1876 so you must have one? Do you live in Brazil?
@@Jeff-xn1ew Yes. And i pay for ir more than 1000 US$. In Brasil 🇧🇷 guna are very extensível. One G19 cost TO ué more than 5000 US$.
Expensive
Great looking gun I hope it comes to the states. I love my G2c and personal fave Girsan MC28
Looks like a great pistol to go with my Taurus collection 😂. I currently have the Taurus G2C, G3, TCP, TX22 and PT140. Hope it comes to the United States. Thanks for the video and have a great day.
That's awesome @KeithTate! I had no idea you had so many, appreciate you watching and you have a great day too sir
I think what I'd like to see is the Tarus G4 line come out, with a lot of the improvements founds in the GX4 and TX22 development, most notably the trigger and grip shape.
Yes me too. I’d love to see a compact “Glock 19” size GX4.
Yes I’m surprised they haven’t expanded that line yet, maybe it’s still coming
Agreed. The GX4 is an upgrade and the trigger is WAY better.
@@2jzgteSupraJZA80they have it now. It's the GX4 carry and it holds 15rds!!! Also can come in the Toro package to be optics ready!!!
Thanks
Appreciate you watching @DanO'Neill, good to hear from you
Thanks for the recognition sir 👍🏻👍🏻👍🏻
Appreciate the heads up and info @Jeff 👍🏽
Bought two when the Taurus TS9 became available in the U.S. What I don't like about it? Rear of the slide is plastic where the striker and other parts are located. Also don't like how the breechface is a separate unit and not part of the slide. Had feeding issues the first 300 rounds but it went away. Definitely not your norm Taurus pistol and glad I bought them.
Hey I see you found it 👍🏼👍🏼. It looks like a solid piece for Taurus bubits
I did, it was a late night project, fun to learn about
Glad you found it informative. I thought it was for sure. I have the tx22 and said damn taurus needs a 9mm in this frame. Then I saw that video from travisp11 2 years ago and said that’s it. Well I got to looking around and saw the bb6 and said that’s bubits design for sure. Bubits has been around along time steyer,Glock,Caracal he was involved with all of them in one way or another.
I just bought a Taurus TS9 (made in Brazil, imported by Taurus Georgia, USA) with the Wilhelm Bubits mechanical design, 4" compact barrel, full size 17rd capacity, similar in dimensions to the Glock 45 9mm, two 17rd 9mm mags, very good trigger, excellent grip texture, reduced barrel tilt due to rearward barrel-to-slide lockup for better feeding, 4 different back straps, uses affordable easy to find Taurus TH9 17rd mags, fully ambidextrous mag release and slide release, unusual foreign manual safety deleted in US model, metal 3 dot sights, tactile loaded chamber indicator, 3 slot accessory rail, no optics cut, tallest extractor claw I have ever seen, perfect extractor tension, great grip feel, very low bore axis, deep trigger guard undercut, easy unique take down, no “Glock gap” between slide/frame or slide end cap, dual captured recoil spring, passed a 20,000rd torture test and was adopted as a Philippines service pistol. Limited release in US from a government contract overrun. Bought the only one in my area. $399 new. Outstanding value and high quality throughout. The mag’s top round points at the chamber due to the reduced barrel tilt (although not quite as good as a Beretta rotating barrel system). The smooth feeding geometry and controlled extraction/ejection means this design has reliability advantages. Probably Taurus' best pistol, but not generally available. Buy one if you get the chance. TH9/TS9 17rd mags are in stock online.
Update: My TH9 17rd mags from MidwayUSA are on the way, but now I have heard conflicting info about TH9/TS9 mag compatibility. One CZcamsr says his old TH9 mags are too short for the TS9. The Taurus sells TH9/TS9 mags under the same SKU as do several online retailers who sell them as TH9/TS9 compatible. So don't take my word on it yet. I will update once they come in.
Update #2: My Taurus TH9 17rd mags from MidwayUSA came in (SKU: 358-0009-01) and they fit and feed perfectly in my Taurus TS9, are reasonably priced (I went with Midway out of familiarity but have seen them for less elsewhere), are made in Italy by Mec-Gar (considered the best), are identical to the two mags that shipped with my new TS9, and are made with snag-free seamless tube construction. This is good news because TS9 pistols are new to the US market and hard to find, but compatible 17rd TH9 mags have been generally available online for probably 10 years.
Looks a lot like the P10c.. Noticed that immediately. Hopefully we get one because the G3c will still sell well! 🇺🇸
It's more like the cz p10F with a slightly shorter barrel, and 17rds.
Mornin Man!!
WOAH TA BEEN SCALPED!!!
Morning! Haha, wife was over it
@@LWRoad Happy Wife. Happy life!
I dont ask mine as I know her answer. But I had whiskers on my face since high school. Never been completely bare faced. Altho I shave my head... (since 1989 BEFORE it was cool...) So there is that!
@@cw2a Exactly....and you're on a roll, keep running with it!
I got a TS9, bought it locally for about $100 less than MSRP, it was the only one they had. Excellent pistol on first inspection. Definitely a duty pistol. I haven't shot it yet. I have no idea if we will see more come into the US, so if you want one, grab one now before they are gone. The darn thing feels like a BB6 to some extent when racking it and dry firing it.
I contacted Taurus about a spare recoil assembly, they say no parts available in the US. I contacted Lakeline and they don't have them, and have no plans for the moment to produce them. I just like to keep spares on hand. It takes the same mags as the TH9, so I will pick up a few spare mags. By the way, the Taurus Tactical (LEO) catalog does show a TS9C, a compact version. You can download a PDF of that catalog. I do wonder if we will ever see the compact in the US.
This is a serious pistol, but somewhat obscure in the US. When I bought mine there was a Ruger rep there trying to sell Rugers. Nice guy, but he didn't even seem familiar with his own product. I told him I just bought the only TS9 in the house and wasn't prepared to buy a second pistol that day. He looked confused. When I told him it was a Bubits design he looked unconfused. LOL!
If they have any brains at all, they'll bring that TS9 compact to the states ASAP!!!
Sounds like an awesome pistol and in this vidio I would say maybe a hose job sir
Yep, good to hear from you @LesSage
What I know ...The PNP also acquired the MC9s by Girsan as the new side arm...I think they are replacing all the Glock that were issued...
VERY interesting, thanks for the info, sorry for the late reply, appreciate you watching and weighing in👍🏽
@@LWRoad a pleasure sir...
Btw,I subscribed already..😁
That's good news,bro. Let's keep watching.TS9 needs more time to produce in the state. By the way, great to see you have a hair cut in this video!
Haha, thanks buddy!
At least it's proven before being released here and not us being used as the beta testers!!! That's why I won't even consider most guns when they first come out. I'm not willing to be a beta....... tester!!! LMAO 😂😂😂
Great video Taurus can make some excellent weapons if they apply themselves. Ive been happy with their products. Im surd this would sell well in the US as an option. 🎩🎱🏁🎯♠♦♣♥🌼🏵🌸💙💛🔱🌻🇺🇸🍀
I think so too, they need to bring the TS series to the US
They need to bring here with an optics cut
YES they do
Why don't we have the Bubix Bro in the US? Have you seen it?
Hey @fernandochaves! Good to hear from you again, no idea why not. I think Bubits is retired now though
@@LWRoad Yes, retired as far as I know. But I believe his son is picking it up. I know they were working on importing the Bubix Bro to the US, but then it just sort of fell off the radar. I don't know what happened. I am now curious about the Springfield Echelon. It resembles the Tara-TM-9X from the neighboring country Montenegro. The first version was the TM-9, and it was released as the Schmeisser SLP-9 as well (only one is in the US I am aware of). There is also a compact TM-9 available outside the US that was never available in the US. I am thinking there is a design commonality between the Tara and the Echelon, especially because I know that Tara did not design the pistol (it was not Bubits). I might pick up an Echelon to see if the mags are compatible with the TM-9 or TM-9X, I have both. I want an Echelon anyway. LOL!
@@FernandoChaves Interesting! The Echelon is hands down the best full size polymer striker fired pistol I've ever shot and I'd put it up against anything currently on the market in the sub $1500 range. The balance is what really really impressed me and the return to zero. So much more but those two things really impressed and surprised me
@@LWRoad And that's why I want one...
iam getting one asap
I've been following this model for a while. I honestly don't see it being too different from the G3 enough to warrant importation.
Fair enough thanks for watching👍🏽
Inside there are big differences. It has less recoil than any other 9mm taurus.
They're completely different, G3 is SA/DA, while TS9 is Striker Fired with a much better trigger, unfortunately it lacks TORO, but it's the best pistol on Taurus lineup here in Brazil.
@@alencastrofelipe Dual strike capability of the G3 is not the same as DA/SA as there is no way to avoid the long DA-like first pull. On a DA/SA one can drop the hammer to bypass the DA pull. Therefore the difference between the TS9 and the G3 is simply a long first pull, that's it
@@Tusk_Tact Taurus states on their website it's a DA/SA, also some of the first G2 (PT 24/7 G2) had a decock lever, which was later on removed. G3 is carried in SA with a tensioned firing pin spring, thus the need for an external safety, while TS9 being a proper striker fire only starts tensioning the firing pin spring when the trigger starts getting pressed.
The beard is gone!!! Wow didn’t know any of these designs existed!!
Haha yep, the wife won.
We in the us states are always getting a shit deal!!!but the g 3 Taurus has to much invested in it to bring a new name plate to our market at the moment, I believe
It was already in the United States before you made your comment. I just got mine after looking at it for the last 3 months, and I got it brand new for 279.99 in a local shop.
It sounds like Taurus may have had some marketing analysis done and the TS9 may not have "polled" well. We all know how reliable testing and polling are for the real world 🤢 🤮. After the TX22 being "gun of the year" in 2019 it seems like the TS9 should be given an opportunity to be sold in the US, especially with Taurus' surge in popularity. If Taurus doesn't release it in the US very soon, it would seem like there may be undisclosed issues with the design and they don't want to have it hit US shooters hands. Hey, it's pretty much all speculation at this point but it is a pistol that is definitely intriguing.
Well this pistol just hit the USA.
@@Jeff-xn1ew
Thanks for the info, much appreciated. 👍
Here is a tid-bit. The one I got has the manual safety deleted, it has a polymer filler piece. I didn't even know they were available that way. The box is indeed marked "NON-MAN SAFETY". I am not sure if I am disappointed or not. I don't think I really care. But I am wondering if all of the ones shipped to the US have that safety deleted. I still haven't shot it.
The safety on mine is deleted.
@@Wildwestwrangler As it turns out, the safety is an option. I don't think I have seen any with the safety in the US yet.
I love my taurus Th9.
Not really a big fan of striker pistols.
These got replaced by Arex deltas in the PNP
I dontthink there is a bias, because I never heard of him before today.
When you getting it?
You can get it now.
Their official in North America now
These other gun manufacturers better step up their game because Taurus is making world class firearms these days at a good price.
Dang, Taurus is earning their keep. *nod*
Since Jan 2020 with their new CEO they’ve been making a remarkable turnaround
@@LWRoad ya good for them and I hope they keep coming up with more stuff. We are living in a golden age of firearms and gear and ammo
@@donsal.t.1765 Definitely
Want one
YES, thanks for watching👍🏽
@@LWRoad My pleasure. You cover the kind of unique and value added products I love
TP9DA, Taurus 605 Poly, 111G2. All would rest my life on if it came to it. Haven’t hiccuped yet.
Thanks for keeping it real and the wealth of knowledge and research you share. It’s insp/aspirational!
I would think it has nothing to do about nothing too. That Design is very nice and should ad Greatly to the Taurus lineup. I wonder did Walther PDP design was inspired by the Taurus TS9 to me they look to have very similar lines. I have been waiting for the pistol to be sold here USA for a while now. Taurus current line is proving to be as good as othe know brands and very reliable too. Am also hoping they would do away with the re-strike trigger in favor of a shorter stroke lighter trigger but with the excellent reset their current triggers have.
I found it for sale but it's out of stock 😶
Brazil just outlawed handguns, so now Taurus is using the US market to deplete that stock. I'm sorry but the G3 is still a better option
I have a BBTech BB6 and the TS9 is a clone of the BB6.
Wow, hold on to that, it may be a worthwhile investment a few years down the road. Not many people got their hands on a BB6
@@LWRoad Will do- Yeah I got it for less that $300 when they were available 😂👍
Taurus is doing a limited run of the ts9 in the usa.
tx22 is hands down he best .22 out there eats anything a tank just bought ts9 enroute now I expect the same
Oh I'm quite certain there definitely a bias. God forbid we could have a better pistol design than from all the other big gun makers and from TAURUS at that.
U can next Spring 2024
Need My BBTaurus
Yep
TAURUS'S answer to glock 45 9mm. But with 2 extra rounds.
I M P R E S S I V E
At the very least we need the TS series here🇺🇸
@@LWRoad Definitely second that👍
I WILL HAVE one of those IF they are Released here in USA... C'MON TAURUS just get the OPTIC PLATE on it... HOWEVER as far as kimber.. I wouldn't even by a GLOCK if they just came with ONE MAG.
I'd love to know the real story behind them pulling it back from US release at the last moment. Good to hear from you again @SteemerXaxon, thanks for watching
I say…RELEASE THE KRAKEN! I mean, release it in the US and let the market decide.
Flat, Flat, Flat, Flat, Flat. Bubits mind
I would carry a slingshot, or big stick as my duty weapon, before I would carry a taurus firearm. The model I have seen is more then a glock, by 100 dollars. Almost 200 more then the base m&p
Interesting, I've only seen Taurus's with cheaper MSRP's