The Worst Nation In Hearts Of Iron 4 Keeps Getting WORSE

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  • čas přidán 14. 04. 2024
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Komentáře • 257

  • @iSorrowproductions
    @iSorrowproductions  Před měsícem +103

    And secret czcams.com/video/rBVJxmKP9D0/video.html

    • @Donyon31
      @Donyon31 Před měsícem +9

      is bo gay?

    • @kimchi2780
      @kimchi2780 Před měsícem +8

      ​@@Donyon31Only for Golden

    • @MCCamels
      @MCCamels Před měsícem +2

      I already saw that one!

    • @masterofallthelakesintown2472
      @masterofallthelakesintown2472 Před měsícem

      @@Donyon31my butthole says yes.

    • @krasnamerah1926
      @krasnamerah1926 Před měsícem +2

      Well, screw it, i'll post here so that it got noticed
      Day 15 asking you to play as Dutch East Indies in East Indies Reworked mod.
      Do whatever you want, but don't make it boring.

  • @everettw.9610
    @everettw.9610 Před měsícem +510

    Imagine being a random rural Indian farmer, joining the brand-new indian marine force to fight in this "world war 2" that barely even affects you, and then in the span of like 2 years invading Rome, Marseille, Paris, Madrid, Berlin, St Petersburg, and Moscow. Then you go home only to find all the farming has been mechanized and also it's Bangladesh now.

    • @flutee6162
      @flutee6162 Před měsícem +39

      Considering his manpower at the end, maybe the wealthy officers survived that long instead

    • @ygma1460
      @ygma1460 Před měsícem +9

      No time to explain! Get on the landing boat!

  • @Nikkidafox
    @Nikkidafox Před měsícem +1122

    Perks to playing India:
    -Early nukes
    -High population
    Downsides to playing India
    -70 day focus for a railroad
    -Literally everything else

    • @EEEEEEEE
      @EEEEEEEE Před měsícem

      ‎‎‎‎‎‎‎‎‎‎‎‎‎‎‎‎‎‎‎‎‎‎‎‎‎‎‎‎‎‎‎‎‎‎‎‎‎‎‎‎‎‎‎‎‎‎‎‎‎‎‎‎‎‎‎‎‎‎‎‎‎‎‎‎‎‎‎‎‎‎‎‎‎‎‎‎‎‎‎‎‎‎‎‎‎‎‎‎‎‎‎‎‎‎‎‎‎‎‎‎‎‎‎‎‎‎‎‎‎‎‎‎‎‎‎‎‎‎‎‎‎‎‎‎‎‎‎‎‎‎‎‎‎‎‎‎‎‎‎‎‎E

    • @snomcultist189
      @snomcultist189 Před měsícem +48

      Pros: People can accuse your India of being below average performance…

    • @transorm987
      @transorm987 Před měsícem +31

      Your population due to agrarian society is alot lower in practice

    • @tiredexplora
      @tiredexplora Před měsícem +1

      nikkidafox from the farm jumpscare

    • @anti-mate407
      @anti-mate407 Před měsícem +2

      @@transorm987 yea but u still can get effective 90m pop easily

  • @enzyme694
    @enzyme694 Před měsícem +421

    8:16 i too remember when india gained independence from the uk by landing in italy

  • @Aaron067
    @Aaron067 Před měsícem +253

    As an Indian, I thank you for being such a stickler to history and showing our extremely diverse history in this video via the only 100% historically accurate game, HOI4 ™

    • @marxistvalor
      @marxistvalor Před měsícem +40

      I just wanted to thank India for conquering Europe and freeing all of it just out of pure generosity

    • @Mountain752
      @Mountain752 Před měsícem +11

      That was the most indian thank you comment, which I love

    • @Aaron067
      @Aaron067 Před 19 dny

      ​@@marxistvalorAfter you colonised and destroyed us for more than 200 years, it's the least we can do

  • @Zealdesu
    @Zealdesu Před měsícem +79

    The dev that changed the focus from infrastructure to railways probably knows no one plays the dominions and just troll

  • @huni_nguyen
    @huni_nguyen Před měsícem +125

    The Together for Victory focus trees makes me be fine with Trial of Allegiance

    • @juergen4ever
      @juergen4ever Před 26 dny

      No wonder TfV is free Vanilla content nowadays.

  • @henriquemachado9941
    @henriquemachado9941 Před měsícem +169

    I played as India before.
    I joined Japan against China.
    _Never again, supply system._
    *Never again.*

    • @AlyssMa7rin
      @AlyssMa7rin Před měsícem +12

      Thank goodness you can just... disable supply to allies.

    • @henriquemachado9941
      @henriquemachado9941 Před měsícem +17

      @@AlyssMa7rin WELL, GUESS WHAT!? I learned that too late.

    • @AlyssMa7rin
      @AlyssMa7rin Před měsícem +6

      @@henriquemachado9941 lol, I know your pain. My first game was back in Death before Dishonor, and boy was it a PAIN to play the Soviets back then.

    • @potato88872
      @potato88872 Před měsícem

      Build supply then

  • @Nexusryan
    @Nexusryan Před měsícem +77

    I love a constant fall of the worst nation, it makes me proud to be an avid El Salvador player

  • @Donyon31
    @Donyon31 Před měsícem +57

    WHERES THE RAT

  • @sharky1213
    @sharky1213 Před měsícem +31

    This.
    India is that one nation that I've never played, and in its current form, I have truly no intention of ever playing it in any way.
    Would really love for them, and all the DLC countries up to Waking the Tiger to get some proper paths forward.

    • @bundayeti
      @bundayeti Před měsícem +1

      China is still pretty good focus tree-wise, though Japan is kind of outdated and the warlords prior to switching to either main or comi focus tree, could use some actual flavour -- Sinkiang, looking at you there

    • @sharky1213
      @sharky1213 Před měsícem +2

      @@bundayeti Agreed.
      Japan is pretty fun, but that's less to do with their focus tree and more their general position and role in the world, and the ability to steal ridiculous amounts of Chinese manpower pretty early.
      Could really benefit from a good rework both for the historical and plausible alternates.
      As well as a few of the wacky alternate paths.
      Hoping for a good Japanese anarchist path, maybe to do with Japanese Anarcho-Communists you see in the Ethiopian focus tree.
      Agreed on China though, and the warlords needing a lot more flavor.
      I actually really like Manchukuo's focus tree, even if it's very painful to actually succeed.
      Personally hoping that a new rework of Waking the Tiger also includes Mongolia and Mengjiang.

  • @Ezio334
    @Ezio334 Před měsícem +9

    My Grandfather served in the Indian Navy in the final years of WW2 at the ripe old age of 14. He's 95 next week

  • @thefireisonfire
    @thefireisonfire Před měsícem +10

    Are they ever gonna fix what used to be the infrastructure focuses but are now railroads. 70 days to make something that take like 15 days to simply construct.

  • @TheRavenLord1
    @TheRavenLord1 Před měsícem +151

    Petition for ISP to play Syndicalist Italy/Roman Empire in Kaiserredux Day 43

  • @electricVGC
    @electricVGC Před měsícem +5

    i also love how you lose the railways when you go independent and lose pakistna

  • @orangensaft5085
    @orangensaft5085 Před měsícem +412

    CHICKEN NUGGETS

  • @vonLowenstein
    @vonLowenstein Před měsícem +19

    When TfV came out I was disappointed there was no path that let you keep the British dude in charge and make India into his personal little kingdom. If they ever remake that tree I wish that will be added as an alt-hist option

  • @FlareBlitzed
    @FlareBlitzed Před měsícem +3

    When other nations gets better focus trees DLC by DLC, this one with the Raj keeps getting further and further down the getting worse hole.

  • @lafox2833
    @lafox2833 Před měsícem +13

    Dont think ive ever bothered playing the British Raj

  • @HoZKiNZ
    @HoZKiNZ Před měsícem +2

    I challenge you to watch this vid with no audio or subtitles
    "Hello there my gravy Timothy's and welcome to HOI4 Focus to Z and Guess what *zooms in* there's no rat today! So i'm just gonna jump right in and..."

  • @cc0767
    @cc0767 Před měsícem +1

    3:20 thats definitely the weirdest part about how HOI4 gets developed, they had to adjust the focus tree anyway.. but literally paid no attention? One of the italian focuses also does absolutely nothing if you dont have la resistance. Its ridiculous

  • @mikerotch7606
    @mikerotch7606 Před měsícem +2

    Never had I thought I’d ever hear Isorrow utter caught me lacking

  • @cyberdreamsinteractive
    @cyberdreamsinteractive Před měsícem +1

    I did an India playthrough shortly after I bought this game in 2017 and it was traumatizing enough I still remember it.

  • @xFALCONIA
    @xFALCONIA Před měsícem +1

    This channel got me into Hoi4 but I got a certain concern: Why do I lose every battle?!
    YES I WATCHED VIDEOS. YES I EDITED MY TEMPLATES. YES I CHECKED THE TERRAIN. YES I GOT ENOUGH SUPPLY.
    I only played as Germany so far to get the hang of it, tried organizing my navy and air support as well as building quality troops.
    I gotta know if I am doing something wrong or why can I not beat Poland in 1940 after preparing for four years? The allies just sit on their borders and won't let me push in. I can't even push through the Netherlands with an Army of 24 tank divisions. But as soon as I just take one division off the border they overtake me within a few days.
    Hope maybe someone can help me cause I really feel the game, just battles aren't fun to me ...

    • @captain_hammer
      @captain_hammer Před měsícem

      Firstly, don't try to play a major like Germany immediately. Maybe try playing as Hungary, Romania, or Turkey (use the generic focus tree, not the hot mess that was added in Battle for the Bosporus). Change ideology quickly, join the Axis, and manually justify on some of your weaker neighbours before WW2 starts, then just help out against the Soviets during the war.
      Secondly, maybe you just don't have enough troops, even if their templates are good and you have air superiority? Generally (it depends on the country) you should build civilian factories until early-mid 1938, then switch over to military factories. Don't just build military factories immediately!
      Thirdly, you said you had 24 tank divisions... Just to check, you are also building infantry divisions... right?

  • @FireCast_News
    @FireCast_News Před měsícem +2

    Isorrowprodutions quotes “CAPITALISM, MONEY”

  • @grunkaro
    @grunkaro Před měsícem +21

    i love men

  • @user-ft9ul5ul5v
    @user-ft9ul5ul5v Před měsícem

    For a bit I thought you planned a D-Day in Britain, not vice versa :D

  • @andruloni
    @andruloni Před měsícem

    I remember reading about the Indian naval landing in Berlin in some obscure history book

  • @PeaceMG
    @PeaceMG Před měsícem

    A sequel series to Focus-to-Z where you get a modded focus tree for each nation so the Raj may have its focus tree redeemed. Though you kind of did this with the interesting ones in a-to-z already

  • @phillipbailey5430
    @phillipbailey5430 Před měsícem +1

    i spit my dinner out at the Crip jokes

  • @mattrobb1130
    @mattrobb1130 Před měsícem

    i find it crazy that isp has stayed committed to the faze banks gravy baby thing for this long

  • @bigpoppa1234
    @bigpoppa1234 Před měsícem

    ISP it's not "liberating" when you're invading the capital of the war aggressor.

    • @devinwhite5064
      @devinwhite5064 Před měsícem

      I'd argue that you'd be liberating them of their bad decision making.

  • @MCCamels
    @MCCamels Před měsícem +4

    TIMOTHY!!!!!!

  • @Pirate222-ho1kk
    @Pirate222-ho1kk Před měsícem

    Cant wait for the Czechoslovakian puppet tree

  • @arch3223
    @arch3223 Před měsícem +2

    Yessir,
    I am a Gravy Timothy...

  • @memazov6601
    @memazov6601 Před měsícem +1

    Play As Bolivia you get all debuffs but you have the Generico Focus tree

  • @privatecanook
    @privatecanook Před měsícem +1

    MAP IS BACK

  • @talosisoursavior3061
    @talosisoursavior3061 Před měsícem

    no one ever does the befriending focuses for germany so you should do that for the focus to z series

  • @scott3017
    @scott3017 Před měsícem

    It would be a hilarious nod to civ if getting Gandhi as an advisor gave you a massive buff to nuclear research and reactor construction

  • @walterengler5709
    @walterengler5709 Před měsícem

    Ah yes who can forget the great moment of WWII, when India invaded Sicily then Italy, taking Rome. Or their historic landings in Southern France then D-Day in Normandy, and the landings in Spain. And oh I remember the films of their Indian raising the flag in Berlin and later Moscow. Brings a tear to my eye.

  • @flynn6862
    @flynn6862 Před měsícem +1

    14:50 ME! ME! ME! I Want to play New Zealand

  • @NotKnafo
    @NotKnafo Před měsícem +8

    paradox should make a dlc for secret weapons
    adding helicopters from hoi3 (designer if bBA is enabled)
    adding hydrogen bombs as a 1952 tech
    maybe satellites as a 1952/3 tech
    lend leasing nukes
    and launching nukes through rocket launchpads

    • @overkill4733
      @overkill4733 Před měsícem +1

      Who is playing until the 1950s? Buddy play a cold war mod if you want that

    • @honeybadger6275
      @honeybadger6275 Před měsícem

      @@overkill4733 I've played road to 56 a few times, not a fan of it, it reaches 1945 levels of vanilla lag by like 1940. 1950s in that mod is just a crawl.

    • @overkill4733
      @overkill4733 Před měsícem

      @honeybadger6275 I said a cold war mod not road to 56

    • @NotKnafo
      @NotKnafo Před měsícem +1

      @@overkill4733 isp do
      also would give pdx a reason to optimize the game

    • @NotKnafo
      @NotKnafo Před měsícem +1

      @@overkill4733 isp do
      and it would give pdx a reason to optimize the game

  • @Minigun_-nj1tf
    @Minigun_-nj1tf Před měsícem +2

    Truly a British Raj moment

  • @droezjjj3927
    @droezjjj3927 Před měsícem

    dear Mr. iSorrowproductions, the people DEMAND the rat

  • @user-we2wu5qx8e
    @user-we2wu5qx8e Před měsícem

    Theres a glitch with the special forces if u create a bunch of 1 inf battalions and disable theyre equipment and switch them to a diff template u can have nearly to infinite special forces hope it helps

  • @Giovanni00831
    @Giovanni00831 Před měsícem +1

    I wish an India secret focus tree about nukes, as Civ teach us, Ghandi LOVE nukes!

  • @elijah7227
    @elijah7227 Před měsícem

    If you do the French chile tree you can play as Polynesia

  • @user-ql4wg4fg8l
    @user-ql4wg4fg8l Před měsícem

    you don't need 2 nation theory just build dockyards and factories give convoys to gain gain autonomy

  • @everythinggamingnow
    @everythinggamingnow Před měsícem

    the road to 56 tree is much better. Well not really, but its much much bigger. I played them yesterday and got so bored i cheated and blasted by way to freedom asap, since i actually wanted to play a ww2 simulator, and not just "clicking on regions" simulator, followed by "balance these 2 things so you can keep some extra land" simulator, at which point by the time your done, most of the war is over

  • @ericmalanowski5547
    @ericmalanowski5547 Před měsícem +1

    Literally to play a commonwealth nation and have fun, you should just install RT56

    • @cyriell
      @cyriell Před měsícem

      Eh canada is fun imo, tend to play canada if i wanna experiment or learn things (like tanks airplanes etc)

  • @pedrolombardero538
    @pedrolombardero538 Před měsícem +1

    You can keep pakistan as a puppet and later annex them back even if you go the hostorical route (Indian National Movement or whatever), though you don't get them as cores. As soon as you become a Dominion, you can release them as a puppet and even after you gain your independence, they'll still be your puppet. Unless they patched it, you should still be able to do it. I just keep them as an integrated puppet since you get to be independent so late in the game. Let me know if it still works!

  • @pujanshah7868
    @pujanshah7868 Před měsícem +1

    The Indian Focus tree has no war goals, is really crap as almost everything is locked behind being at war or being independent. India has very limited building slots too which makes it very limited to inf based armies and the focus tree gives crap in the name of resources and factories. Pardox needs to rework India like yesterday.

  • @PuppetierMaster
    @PuppetierMaster Před měsícem

    This video along with many others is the reason I keep coming back even as a student of history, I get my yuck laughs in while I can. India super marines lead the charge and force a D-Day *_FOUR TIMES_*

  • @Alec_Reaper
    @Alec_Reaper Před měsícem

    Call it, Hocus Focus :)

  • @ubj_skywalker5298
    @ubj_skywalker5298 Před měsícem +1

    Play Ceylon!!!
    Don’t think there are any mods for it though :(

    • @DOppler-kr4hj
      @DOppler-kr4hj Před měsícem

      There's a mod called "Shattered land" that has a Ceylon focus tree.

  • @FriedRiceINC
    @FriedRiceINC Před měsícem

    They do be walking down Los Angeles Boulevard

  • @Weightyloan15
    @Weightyloan15 Před měsícem +1

    As an indian myself i would rather prefer a generic focus tree than that hell hole

  • @jaredsage3250
    @jaredsage3250 Před měsícem

    Is Achievements-to-Z ever coming back?

  • @dogedoge1850
    @dogedoge1850 Před měsícem

    You can say what you want ,but I like The together for Victory focus trees (yes they are very small and not much interesting but i like them)

  • @SpudfudXD
    @SpudfudXD Před měsícem

    That focus tree 💀

  • @FatheredPuma81
    @FatheredPuma81 Před měsícem

    When I did this I just took Rome as soon as the war started and sat there until I got Italy as a puppet.

  • @liambeirowski4680
    @liambeirowski4680 Před měsícem

    4:50 Lend leasing fuel does not increase autonomy gain

  • @almanachim7866
    @almanachim7866 Před měsícem

    ISP are you gonna do a no division gamethrough at 800 k

  • @patchworkpizza5832
    @patchworkpizza5832 Před měsícem

    I'm am curious to know what templates he uses, making good marines in the base game is so weird

  • @OhYNo
    @OhYNo Před měsícem

    I find it funny how the thumbnails and titles are as ambiguous as possible now. Algorithm really is strange nowadays

  • @datdumbguy1067
    @datdumbguy1067 Před měsícem +1

    When are we old enough to not be "Gravy Timmies"?

  • @helpercar
    @helpercar Před měsícem

    I'll say it again, FocA-Z

  • @voidwalker9746
    @voidwalker9746 Před měsícem

    We got chile focus tree before a germany focus tree rework

  • @smolwhiteboi486
    @smolwhiteboi486 Před měsícem

    Bro called himself the dumbest man around when I’m right here

  • @a.cunningham4974
    @a.cunningham4974 Před měsícem

    Thats a spicy chicken tikka

  • @thatdudethat7824
    @thatdudethat7824 Před měsícem

    Wonder if he'll count the generic focus tree

  • @hadenhiebert5576
    @hadenhiebert5576 Před měsícem

    Road to 56 all releasable nations A-Z YOU MUST DO IT

  • @MeLoNarXo
    @MeLoNarXo Před měsícem

    hold on i thought this video was like a year old looked at the upload time and its 38minutes ago?!

  • @667Agent
    @667Agent Před měsícem

    The event were Pakistan rebels can also happen if you become free by the British capitulating, and can be avoided through the puppeting method you described.
    Found that out in a multiplayer game

  • @bundayeti
    @bundayeti Před měsícem +1

    They could have made the foci better. Historically India provided up to 2 mil soldiers. They should make it possible to reduce Agrarian Soc in other ways and also securing lend lease for guns from the brits. Or alternatively building up Burma in preparation for a Japanese invasion (this alternative could increase risk of the Famine event).
    The Atl history foci are laughable, however. Taking out nearby Tibet, Nepal and Bhutan, makes at least some sense (regional expansion-wise), as well as preventing Pakistan from splitting if you go comi (Spanish civil war type powerstruggle system maybe).
    Securing oil in the Middle East for the Axis or slogging through China at the cost of debuffs to help out Japan would be good mutually exclusive brown party choices.
    Joining up with the Soviets and fighting the axis on their end, while more vanilla, is still quite good of an alternative. Maybe the Soviets could try beefing up India's tech, a T-34 heavy India could be fun.
    There is always an option to try a navy heavy India, reverse colonising the British and French (arguably the most out-there idea, but not impossible if they go destroyer and sub-heavy, similar to the Germans).
    I'm not a fan of a monarchist India tree, but I'm sure they'd do something like that eventually. I'm more partial to a non-aligned isolationist path, where they rapidly industrialise at the cost of penalties. You can build tall and lend lease like crazy.
    That's just my take though, if you like any of these ideas Paradox, feel free to steal my ideas XD

  • @Feitono
    @Feitono Před měsícem +7

    like this comment if you dont regularly play hoi4 but just watch isp

  • @alex857tgg
    @alex857tgg Před měsícem

    I still have no idea what isp does in this series but sure

  • @darthbob8428
    @darthbob8428 Před měsícem

    Lend Leasing fuel doesnt give you autonomy btw

  • @YuYu-mu7xv
    @YuYu-mu7xv Před měsícem

    History finally is in an hour, I will pass if the rat wills it.

  • @Fancypants117
    @Fancypants117 Před měsícem

    the hand holding is the worst fking thing
    can't play as any minor nation without it being a total slog because of it

  • @valczer8512
    @valczer8512 Před měsícem +7

    MONGOL EMPIRE (without mods)

  • @survivalsamuel
    @survivalsamuel Před měsícem

    RATS AND TROTSKY

  • @eisbergsyndrom5010
    @eisbergsyndrom5010 Před měsícem

    This is absolutely one of the focus trees of all time.

  • @drinkfromthecup
    @drinkfromthecup Před měsícem

    13:29 my eyes!..

  • @Kasaaz
    @Kasaaz Před měsícem

    Can you license the Yamato in this game?

  • @astonedwalrus4183
    @astonedwalrus4183 Před měsícem

    Naval only
    DO IT FOR MY SADISTIC ENTERTAINMENT

  • @human_fish3442
    @human_fish3442 Před měsícem

    I wish they give sia,malaya,east indies, and philippines foces trees

  • @greatnessofthelack1198
    @greatnessofthelack1198 Před měsícem

    It is stupid Canada got updated but the other allied countries from the dlc didn't get fixed over the years

    • @honeybadger6275
      @honeybadger6275 Před měsícem +1

      The funny thing is canada is still bugged. If you do patriation and stay democratic and form a faction with the USA, its impossible to do the demand newfoundland focus from britain because you get like a -115 relations debuff with britain and need like +52 relations to do the focus. Its impossible to boost relations high enough to do it.

  • @Diam0nD_007
    @Diam0nD_007 Před měsícem +1

    ISP what does your name actually mean

  • @lennyrachelhoover7273
    @lennyrachelhoover7273 Před měsícem

    ALF LANDON.

  • @adhdegrees
    @adhdegrees Před měsícem

    Whoopsies

  • @zaoda1357
    @zaoda1357 Před měsícem

    fun map man focus map game video!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

  • @madarah8533
    @madarah8533 Před měsícem

    I like funny map man

  • @tommivalle2652
    @tommivalle2652 Před 4 dny

    Tip: I've found out that you can keep Pakistan by releasing them as a puppet before becoming independent with The Funny Freedom Button ™️

  • @LuckyAJC
    @LuckyAJC Před měsícem

    thought you would be playing italy

  • @frankunderbush
    @frankunderbush Před měsícem

    Suffering to Z

  • @confusedmango6557
    @confusedmango6557 Před měsícem

    We are soo back!!

  • @JM_Traslo
    @JM_Traslo Před měsícem +21

    Focus Trees were a mistake. Expansions should've just been about roughly adding flavour and some decisions instead of a constantly changing standard of focus tree depth as they realized how cheap it was to make them.
    HoI3 / HoI2 Darkest Hour remasters when!

    • @honeybadger6275
      @honeybadger6275 Před měsícem

      I'm inclined to agree, the focus tree's I prefer in this game are the smallest ones. I also wish the devs would include an option in the game settings to disable the plane/ship/tank designers and just use the old research trees.

  • @cje5997
    @cje5997 Před měsícem

    where are the achievements?

  • @kakosuso6597
    @kakosuso6597 Před měsícem

    ISP PLEASE DO ALF LANDON