Why hydrogen is becoming a big deal, part one | Sustainable Energy

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  • Sustainable Energy takes a look at the ways hydrogen is being used to power vehicles and store energy.
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Komentáře • 74

  • @romanowskiart
    @romanowskiart Před 5 lety

    Awesome, love your stories here, finrlly some info. One can take as facts. Thx.

  • @JaiKrishna787
    @JaiKrishna787 Před 6 lety +9

    Really it was a fascinating video on on hydrogen fuel as a zero emission technology 😘😘😘

  • @joeantony2760
    @joeantony2760 Před 4 lety +2

    Excellent. Thanks 🙏

  • @anders21karlsson
    @anders21karlsson Před 4 lety +1

    Great video!

  • @nightlightabcd
    @nightlightabcd Před 3 lety +3

    Yeah, yeah!! Still waiting!

  • @h2innovationlabh2il69
    @h2innovationlabh2il69 Před 4 lety +2

    Thank you from 'H2 Innovation Lab' H2IL - technology for a green sustainable hydrogen future.

  • @artmiranda8950
    @artmiranda8950 Před 2 lety

    Great for Public awareness-an eye opener!!!

  • @wahab852
    @wahab852 Před 4 lety +4

    every single person who was interviewed explained the electrolysis process.. :'D

  • @RubenKelevra
    @RubenKelevra Před 3 lety +3

    Funny, 3 years later and still not a big deal. Not even a small deal 😂

    • @petergoestohollywood382
      @petergoestohollywood382 Před 3 lety

      Haha so true. And it is already succeeded by cryogenically liquified air.

    • @RubenKelevra
      @RubenKelevra Před 3 lety +1

      @@petergoestohollywood382 well, this technology is only working in conjunction with burning natural gas. We have one power plant in Germany who does this, but the overall efficiency is poor.
      I think the best option is putting large weights down into old mining shafts, suspended by cables. That's what UK is looking into right now.
      Pretty dope idea 'cause the efficiency is like 90% on half output - on full output a bit less. And the footprint is extremely low as well as the service intervals. The cables are expected to hold up 20 years on heavy usage and the worst case scenario if not is a small earthquake 😅

    • @RubenKelevra
      @RubenKelevra Před 3 lety

      @@petergoestohollywood382 just as an example: If you got a 2.5 km shaft and suspend just 200 metric tons in it, you could store 1.36 MWh, with zero degradation and response times of just some milli-seconds.
      It can also switch extremely fast between input and output, to counteract an overcompensation in the grid, which can be an issue which can lead to a significant amounts of blackouts or network splits, like it happend on 4th of November in 2006 where the network got split due to overload on certain lines.
      If we would have several thousands of those energy storage units we could let them autonomously reduce the load depending on the network status, to avoid such overloads on redundancy failures.

    • @serhiikurtenko9147
      @serhiikurtenko9147 Před 3 lety

      Because hydrogen is technology of future that never comes.

  • @Elwin3918
    @Elwin3918 Před 3 lety +1

    This is a wonderful video. These pilot projects could enable the transition from high carbon foot prints to zero emission societies.the only obstacles will be convincing the strong political oil lobbyists that this is the natural transition that will enable then to continue future markets that insure their future after 2050 or so when fossil fuels will be depleted and the prices after scarcity skyrocket.Bravo CNBC international we need green energy now so that its cost,especially for hydrogen production can become low cost throughout the glove .down with climate change save planet earth!!!!👍🏾👌🏾🙏🏾

  • @ogvlad3882
    @ogvlad3882 Před 4 lety +5

    Invest in plug power best stock

  • @sk8899
    @sk8899 Před 4 lety +2

    Both battery based EVs & Hydrogen fuel cell vehicles will have a huge space & impact on Human Civilization as a whole.
    Let's not forget that still there are at least 3 different Fossil fuel (Petrol, Diesel & CNG) based Vehicles being operated in the World.
    The future should be about 2 different fuel options for transportation such as Battery based EVs & Hydrogen fuel cells based vehicles.
    Battery based EVs are a good option for Two-wheelers or City based limited transportation like Cars whereas Hydrogen Fuel cell based technologies is good for Large distance transportation vehicles like Trucks, Buses etc.
    For more Car dependent Nations like US, Hydrogen based fuel cell technology is the option for Cars, Buses & Trucks.

  • @lore1786
    @lore1786 Před 5 lety +6

    I'm just 15 but I'm a hidrogen believer too. I'm building my own hydrogen generator and compressor. I have a lot of plans to use hydrogen fuel cell as battery to my cellphone, hoverboard and in a few years my car too.

    • @colconn57
      @colconn57 Před 4 lety

      Don't waste your time. Hydrogen is far from being suitable for household use.

    • @colconn57
      @colconn57 Před 4 lety

      @Mario Cassinelli Do you want to buy a bridge??

    • @offgridwanabe
      @offgridwanabe Před 3 lety

      Good on you never listen to the unbelievers they usually act out of jealousy

    • @petergoestohollywood382
      @petergoestohollywood382 Před 3 lety

      @Mario Cassinelli how though? Seriously, what do you think happens when you try to dissolve h2 into water? And then drink it? Why would one want to do such a thing?

  • @701983
    @701983 Před 5 lety +6

    9:35 and 13:05: "Driving on air"???
    Yes, unlike battery electric vehicles, fuel cell vehicles need the oxygen of the air.
    But they don't "drive on air".

  • @patrickryckman3867
    @patrickryckman3867 Před 3 lety +3

    Answer: Because Oil Companies want to keep chasing technologies 20 years away so they can keep selling oil.

    • @petergoestohollywood382
      @petergoestohollywood382 Před 3 lety

      Exactly on point!

    • @amphibdriver1
      @amphibdriver1 Před 3 lety

      The change from gas to hydrogen is way too costly to change over all over the US and that's why it won't catch on for vehicles sold in the US..

    • @patrickryckman3867
      @patrickryckman3867 Před 3 lety

      @@amphibdriver1 lets hope.

  • @puglian0
    @puglian0 Před 4 lety

    Got interview for hydrogen engineer that's why I'm here 🤣

  • @cdelator2000
    @cdelator2000 Před 4 lety +1

    Could also use Hydrogen to store Hydroelectric produced Energy

    • @Jemalacane0
      @Jemalacane0 Před 4 lety +1

      Why the hell would you do that? That would actually cost energy and a hydropower reservoir is already a pretty great form of energy storage.

    • @offgridwanabe
      @offgridwanabe Před 3 lety

      @@Jemalacane0 to balance the grid which happens usually every night when nobody is using electricity

    • @Jemalacane0
      @Jemalacane0 Před 3 lety +1

      @@offgridwanabe People don't use electricity at night? Excuse me!

    • @offgridwanabe
      @offgridwanabe Před 3 lety

      @@Jemalacane0 Well not as much is used at least in Ontario Canada where we dump electricity into the American grid to balance our grid and we do it free of charge.

    • @Jemalacane0
      @Jemalacane0 Před 3 lety

      @@offgridwanabe A major city like Toronto will use lots of electricity at night.

  • @dougcohen3364
    @dougcohen3364 Před 4 lety

    That guage where it only goes from 0 Hertz to 10 ;)

  • @terenceiutzi4003
    @terenceiutzi4003 Před 3 lety +1

    Hydrogen has always been the fuel of the future and always will be!

  • @andreashertting8545
    @andreashertting8545 Před 3 lety

    Germany needs ten times more pv-plants and hydrogen storage. So you can manage a great deal of the CO2-emissions of Germany. Thank You for making it real!

  • @ronstrem1061
    @ronstrem1061 Před 4 lety

    Proton Technologies is commercializing a new method, tested at the University of Calgary (Alberta, Canada) and in the field, to produce
    pure hydrogen from oil wells with no CO2 or any greenhouse gas emissions. When hydrogen is used as a fuel the only emission
    is clean water vapour. The following video documentary tells the story and present status. @
    At commercial scale the University of Calgary estimates the hydrogen can be produced for somewhere between 10 cents to 50 cents per kilo-gram. The current retail price of hydrogen in California is over $10.00 per kilo-gram. Hydrogen produced by wind or solar electric generation has an actual true cost in the range of $3.00 to $6.00 per kilo-gram.
    Using the new process, a large engineering firm is presently working on an engineering design to build a hydrogen production facility at
    Proton Technologies’ oil well facilities in Saskatchewan, Canada that can produce 30,000 kg/day of hydrogen which could be shipped either by tube trailer (up to 1,300 kg) or liquid hydrogen trailer (4,800 kg), or to generator electric power right at the site where the hydrogen is produced. The second stage will increase the capacity to 300,000 kg/day. The new method can be used widely around the world and during the next 20 years has the potential to create enough low cost, ‘green’ hydrogen to replace coal, oil and natural gas as an energy source.
    Electric power generation facilities fueled by very low cost 'green' hydrogen can reliably supply electric power 7x24, even when the sun is not shining and when the wind is now blowing.
    Many hydrogen pipelines are already in use around the world. Hydrogen fuelled semi-trucks, buses, trains and ships are already in use, with many more on the way.
    Nikola Motors in the is planning to hydrogen-powered semi trucks, and they presently have pre-orders for 7,000 trucks ($12B USD). The trucks
    are very beautiful works of design art.
    @t
    A project in Alberta, Canada to build a fleet of hydrogen fuel-cell semi-trucks is in progress. Ballard (Vancouver B.C.) is supplying the hydrogen
    fuel cells and a company is Quebec is building the electric drive train.
    @t
    Hyundai hydrogen-powered semi-trucks are shown in this article and are another example of beautiful works of design art.
    @t
    Cummins showcases hydrogen fueled semi trucks.
    @t
    Kenworth, Toyota, Hyundai and Volvo hydrogen fueled semi trucks.
    @t
    More information is available at Protons Technologies' web site at @t
    Information about new fuel cells is available at @t

  • @maxsanandreas1
    @maxsanandreas1 Před 6 lety +2

    Solar Vs Hydrogen for future energy?

    • @CarlosAlbertoZalazar
      @CarlosAlbertoZalazar Před 6 lety +4

      No Vs, it is: " solar + Hydrogen"

    • @romanowskiart
      @romanowskiart Před 5 lety

      Not vice, but using solar and wind and hydroelectric to produce hydrogen, ...i think

  • @aggabus
    @aggabus Před 5 lety

    Cut or burned..?

  • @abstractexchange5057
    @abstractexchange5057 Před 4 lety +1

    hydrogen is the only right variant for future. No other variant ! But we are developing approach, which is not exact now. There must be 2 waves for hydrogen : 1/BUILD HYDROGEN PRODUCTION FACTORIES ON SITES OF RENEWABLE ENERGY STATIONS. 2/ SMALL CARS NEED TO LOAD HYDROGEN BY EXCHANGE WHOLE COMPRESSED HYDROGEN BALLOONS.
    We are wrong because we do not firstly build enough hydrogen production factories on sites of renewable energy stations. We are wrong because we are trying to build network of hydrogen loading stations, which are COMPLEX AND EXPENSIVE.
    We must change our approach. We should use hydrogen as energy storage method for renewable energy stations first. Then we should load hydrogen for usual small cars by exchanging whole standard sized compressed hydrogen gas balloons. So It is very simple and not expensive to make the global net of hydrogen supplying stations. Any normal mini shops can be a hydrogen supplying point by storing standard sized compressed hydrogen gas balloons. We do not have to use liquid hydrogen, which is difficult to collect. But we can use compressed hydrogen gas, which is not so much different in weight by comparison with liquid hydrogen. Hydrogen is the best solution of energy storage for all energy stations now, for example, for nuclear energy stations, for renewable energy stations. Just install ready hydrogen production modules, and install independent hydrogen fuel cell modules in adjacent areas. Use compressed hydrogen gas at first time instead of liquid hydrogen.
    And the last thing to notice is that, hydrogen is not more dangerous than other gases and petrol. Hydrogen has big energy storage capacity, but when burning hydrogen in accidents, IT DOES NOT CREATE ACOUSTIC DESTRUCTING WAVE TO ENVIRONMENTS. It means that hydrogen burning is less destructive than gasoline burning.

    • @colconn57
      @colconn57 Před 4 lety

      You are absolutely WRONG. Hydrogen production is massively energy intensive! if hydrogen is used from ANY source it is massively inefficient compared to Battery powered vehicles.

    • @abstractexchange5057
      @abstractexchange5057 Před 4 lety +1

      @@colconn57 you showed that you do not understand hydrogen technology. Water electrolysis process has maximum useful energy exchange coefficient. No other chemical process, which has better useful energy exchange coefficient . HYDROGEN HAS ENERGY STORAGE CAPACITY, WHICH IS THE MAXIMUM LIMIT FOR ALL CHEMICAL PROCESSES. It means that ALL FUTURE BATTERIES WILL HAVE LESS ENERGY STORAGE CAPACITY THAN HYDROGEN. The only real problem of hydrogen is STORAGING HYDROGEN. But if use balloons from composited materials to storage COMPRESSED HYDROGEN GAS, then we can solve this problem. Compressed hydrogen gas has weight density, which is not so much different from liquid hydrogen. I am assure that producing compressed hydrogen gas balloons is EASIER AND CHEAPER THAN PRODUCING POPULAR AA BATTERIES OR AAA BATTERIES. Hydrogen is the champion solution for storageing energy of energy stations on the earth now, include renewable energy plants, nuclear energy plants, nuclear fusion energy reactors. For example, collect and storage solar energy in summers to use storaged energy in winters warming , it must be ONLY HYDROGEN TECHNOLOGY.
      Battery electric vehicles can exist together with hydrogen vehicles, but battery electric vehicles have less capacity, less power, longer charging time. If you try to drive hydrogen vehicles once, then you never want to drive battery electric vehicles any more, because hydrogen cars are powerful. If distribute hydrogen balloons as coca cola bottles anywhere , then hydrogen distributing and storageing will be no longer a problem, and any robots and veehicles and electric machines and drones should use hydrogen because of HYDROGEN MAXIMUM ENERGY STORAGE CAPACITY AND HYDROGEN SUPPLYING BIG POWER

    • @colconn57
      @colconn57 Před 4 lety +1

      @@abstractexchange5057 you are talking absolute rubbish. I made hydrogen for nearly 20 years. The amount of ENERGY required the separate hydrogen from water is high. why do you not see free hydrogen floating around in the atmosphere? Because it bonds readily with other atoms. Very strong bonds. To break these bonds requires energy. . Presently electrolizers use 55kW hours of energy to make 1 kg of hydrogen. When that is transferred to a fuel cell and converted to electricity the losses in the conversion are presently around 40% at best . 1 kg of hydrogen thus is the energy equvalent of about 3-4 litres of diesel. Hydrogen is notoriously hard to store. . It is a tiny atom compared to a methane molecule or water for example. And unless very good engineering techniques are used you will have significant leakage. It takes a lot of water as well, and not just tap water. Any impurities will be deposited on the cathode or anode and result in an inefficient conversion. So you need good water purification techniques unless they develop new technologies. The more promising technologies for producing cheaper metal anodes and cathodes are still in the developmental stage and even they are only suggesting a fairly low increase in conversion efficiencies of about 15-20 percent.
      It is most definitely NOT a champion solution. Reversable hydro storage is much, more efficient on a large scale and batteries are massively more efficient on a small scale. As I said in another comment. Hydrogen has a place possibly for large scale logistic solutions where an access to VERY cheap energy is available and where transport is minimal. Like industrial areas or ports.
      I note that Honda has stopped development of the hydrogen car at this time. It would be absolutely stupid to use your household solar system to make hydrogen even if you consider that electricity free ( which it isn't) Your Hydrogen car would need a solar panel array 10 times bigger than the average solar array to get anywhere near the amount of energy required for an average driver.
      If you have any examples you can provide to support your claims please provide them. I can only assume you are a troll or a schill for the hydrogen industry if you fail to do so. The present push for hydrogen is very noticable on you tube. But most will lead you back to fossil fuel solutions, steam reformation and CCS (carbon capture and storage). These are NOT long term solutions and just an attempt in my view to provide fossil fuel companies a way to keep hold of the transport industry fueling dollar. An attempt that is already failing. My figures are not exact (I'm on holiday an away from a computer) but provide yours and where you got them from and we will continue the discussion.

  • @canadiannuclearman
    @canadiannuclearman Před 5 lety +3

    green hydrogren can be produced from nuclear . H2 in France is a great match with their 79% of their electrical power comes from nuclear.

    • @colconn57
      @colconn57 Před 4 lety +2

      Ridiculous! Electricity itself is a far more efficient use of nuclear power. turning that power into hydrogen is just stupid.

    • @ssuwandi3240
      @ssuwandi3240 Před rokem

      Correct except West Europe don't have one and diesel to charge off hydraulic medium has tripled now compared to 4 years ago. Only great for WEF projections.

  • @aggabus
    @aggabus Před 5 lety

    Cute mobility market..

  • @kiddscaartoonvideosworld8298

    Why India a most populated country not taking Andros towards hydrogen vehicles?

    • @shawnnoyes4620
      @shawnnoyes4620 Před 4 lety +1

      because they do not make sense Energy Returned on Energy Invested

  • @aggabus
    @aggabus Před 5 lety +1

    Gree n not blue?.

  • @eddymich3192
    @eddymich3192 Před 4 lety +1

    Those questions and answers seen highly scripted to me. Not a discussion but a written script.

  • @user-ei9sn9or8e
    @user-ei9sn9or8e Před 3 lety

    This problem should be scoffed at, because manufacturers scoff at the price of components.
    Feuilleton. Electronic flowers.
    The electronic flower is a silicon wafer 15 by 15 centimeters. Tracks the sun with two micro-drives
    and a control microcircuit. It produces hydrogen during the warm season. It produces electricity during the cold season. The electronic pulse converter operates in two modes: electrolysis mode and mains voltage mode.The electronic flower has a 100 cubic centimeters electrolysis bath. A water supply tube fits to it and hydrogen tube and two mains voltage wires too. Productivity of an electronic flower 1 cubic meter of hydrogen and 1.4 kilowatt hours per year. Profit 0.90$ for hydrogen and 0.1$ for electricity in total 1$. Electronic flower cost 1.33$. Profit per square meter of flowers 40$.
    The guy spent his annual salary on electronic flowers. He planted it in the garden. A year later, he earned an annual salary.
    Sits and thinks I'll buy more electronic flowers.

  • @shawnnoyes4620
    @shawnnoyes4620 Před 4 lety

    Before loving hydrogen - make sure you understand Energy returned on energy invest (EROEI) as well as The second law of thermodynamics. 2nd law indicates that a Carnot engine operating between two given temperatures has the greatest possible efficiency of any heat engine operating between these two temperatures. Irreversible processes involve dissipative factors, which reduces the efficiency of the engine.

  • @dejanbelec8611
    @dejanbelec8611 Před 3 lety

    Kera frzura

  • @newrenewableenergycontrol5724

    I can not believe how much time, money, and knowledge is spent on hydrogen science when the hydro power system design research is abandoned like all of the energy available was gathered up using a turbine! Once you include the accelerated mass into a hydro turbine efficiency, the efficiency drops to less then 16% with perfect use of whats available. In reality its closer to 14%. That means if you do something that does not waste energy in accelerated mass you could increase the power out of elevated water up to six times! Now how much hydrogen can you make?

  • @ThePzrLdr
    @ThePzrLdr Před 3 lety

    What you don't say in the video is just how difficult and expensive the whole process is. Why is that? Because people would have to pay around $6 a gal. for the stuff? Two thumbs down for a half truth and a lie.

  • @colconn57
    @colconn57 Před 4 lety +1

    Using excess electricity for hydrogen production is very inefficient. Very similar to Steam as an electricity generator. Hydrogen storage is much less efficient than battery storage, thus less expensive. Hydrogen may have uses but cars aren't one of them. As a fuel for long distance transport or marine applications it will be a good transitional fuel. Did you Notice they don't give you any figures as to the costs of energy??

    • @offgridwanabe
      @offgridwanabe Před 3 lety

      Electricity is wasted every night when they dump the excess electricity that is not in demand to balance the grid why not find uses for this hydrogen production is only one way, in Canada we give away free to USA maybe we should use it for car charging or pumping water storage. We always just take the easy way out.

  • @gigelsigismund3937
    @gigelsigismund3937 Před 5 lety +10

    i am a hydrogen belliver ..

    • @colconn57
      @colconn57 Před 4 lety +1

      Why?

    • @PistonAvatarGuy
      @PistonAvatarGuy Před 4 lety +2

      @@colconn57 Ignorance.

    • @petergoestohollywood382
      @petergoestohollywood382 Před 3 lety

      How about letting me guide your attention on to cryogenically liquified air storage plants? That’s where the real deal is going on in the next couple of years.

  • @SmalLevi74
    @SmalLevi74 Před 3 lety

    Yes, let every moran ride their ovn hydrogen bomb
    Why not fokus on use the electricity directly , without this inifficiency?
    Hydrogen has to be one of the most inifficiency and dangerous battery ever..
    Hindenburg anyone?

  • @seaplaneguy1
    @seaplaneguy1 Před 5 lety +3

    H2 won't work. NH3 is the new H2. You can store 9658 kwh in a 1000 gallon tank (3.194 kwh/L NH3 x 3.78 L/gal x 1000 gal x 80% fill =9658 kwh) and that tank would cost $1500. Basically a common propane tank. A Li-ion battery costs $200/kwh. 9658 x 200 = $1,931,600. H2 is at least 6x more volume with tanks that are 10,000 psi vs 300 psi. 100 x in costs? Then there is the compression of it. Hydrogen embrittlement and on and on. Last, you can use many fuels with H2 fuel cells. My engine can use 5 fuels and NH3 as well as other electro fuels. Electro-fuels is the future. They are needed to replace oil. H2 does little to solve oil replacement tech. Waste of time.

    • @offgridwanabe
      @offgridwanabe Před 3 lety

      So where can you buy a NH3 producing module from renewable energy or is it a dream like all the other ideas yet to defeat oil.